Jeffe,

Are you saying that boomie is your muse?

boomie,

I'm just keeping you honest. Have you thanked Jeff for everything he's done for you?

George

muse? nah.. whipping boy today!!

Many times but I will keep thanking him just so he dont forget...
Thanks again El Jeffe for going waaaaay above and beyond for me and all the fun we have had.

Holy crap, Weatherby Vanguards? They go for a mere $350 at work ...

Bill,
Yep .. all that the rifle is and aint, they've been done! GREAT 416 platform

Neal put these on SALE!!

To place a brass order
http://www.custombrassandbullets.com/acrewi.html

I have already ordered 100 each (400 total) for me

Ordered mine this AM!

Didn't get mine ordered this morning ... was out running errands. But it's ordered NOW!



What a grin! I can take the .458 to Africa now

Just ordered my 500ar brass. Now, just waiting on my gunsmith...........

I just posted a Ruger MK II 7 mag for sale. This is perfect for an AR Platform. I have 2 so far on the MK II and one on the old tang safety.
Frank

Frank
the rugers are pretty easy to do! and McGowen can do a reasonable job on the 500AR in a ruger!

i held a 416 ruger case next to a 416 ar... LMFAO, other than base diameter, they are twins .. shortnet and all... now THATS awesome.. parallel developements, in no way did they share breeding, but the simularities are awesome...

hornady was very nice to me and gave me a goodly amount of DGS .474s to try and do load dev with. Guys, it looks like a perfect bullet, and the DGX aint bad... they are the same length, and for dangerous game distances, are designed to fly to nearly the same load and POI..

we shall see

Will the 416 AR clean up a 416 Ruger???

should.. its larger everywhere except neck diameter, b ut you'd have to measure.. no reason to go with the AR over the ruger, though.. no real difference

quote:

Originally posted by jeffeosso:
i held a 416 ruger case next to a 416 ar... LMFAO, other than base diameter, they are twins .. shortnet and all... now THATS awesome.. parallel developements, in no way did they share breeding, but the simularities are awesome...

hornady was very nice to me and gave me a goodly amount of DGS .474s to try and do load dev with. Guys, it looks like a perfect bullet, and the DGX aint bad... they are the same length, and for dangerous game distances, are designed to fly to nearly the same load and POI..

we shall see

475Ruger jeffe? I baited Lonnie by suggesting they need a flagship but prefer the 458AccRel.
Cheers...
Con

I'd got with that... though the 458 AR is a more "marketable" shoulder/headspace than either the 458 ruger or 470 AR ..

475 Ruger (based off RUM, not Ruger brass) would work, ya'll, I am telling you! That is, we can rebrand the Ar

Now, on to headstamped brass!

Update
I will have 5 sets of 500 AR dies this week, that are available.

Everyone that has a set now
You will get a new LONG tapered expander, to take the 416's to .510!!

jeffe

hey thanks Jeffe.
Frank

I have 5 sets of 500 AR dies available, but the pricing varies, and of course, will need shipping. These have the GREAT expanders, and I will send the "catch ups" to the guys with them.

For "off the street" the dies are $150

For AR members, $125

For those that donated to the original AR reamers (THANK YOU) $100 shipped

I should receive the expanders in the next couple days.

Jeffe

Jeffe...

What is the case capacity of your 500AR?

I went through 16 pages of fluff trying to find some reference...maybe I missed it. Buliwyf got me thinking...again...of doing another barrel for my SMLE. I could only come close using a 500 Van Horn Express case at about 129 gr H2O. Early on in my SMLE project I was considering doing something with the Van Horn or RUM case, along with several other rimmed and rimless cases, but your AR series had more positive qualities and availibility factors...so I pushed that project thought aside and finished the 458 WM project, then the NEF 12GAFH project got me wired up and my mind went south... ...the 500 AR should have just a bit less capacity...???

The Rigby case was a shoo-in for a single stacker in the standard 308 W mag, with no wedging problems like the RUM caused, but I was too cheap at the time to go with a .510 cal and all the custom work required for dies, reamers etc...but now that Pac-Nor has a reamer and is just over the hill from me, some of the "customization" costs have been eliminated.

I have a mag length minimum of 3.0", but if a Ruger SA was used as a basis then I won't have any problems...just will lose a bit of capacity which isn't a major redazz as I also have a pressure limitation of 45KCUP in the SMLE 2A action.

I also have a loose Rem LA receiver, Savage and Ruger actions or other push feed rifles I could do a swap barrels for, but want a controlled roung feed receiver and don't want to muck up the feed rails, so I might see if I can talk my favorite 'smith out of one of his mag mauser loose actions...not likely...

Thanks

Luck on your projects.

Sure--
about 125-127 gr, depending on norma or hornady brass..

570gr pills at 2150 are small recoil.. but, the bolt thrust going up with the rigby case

Hornady sent my dies to heat treat for the full set of the 40's.

QualCart is sending the first of the 458 and 500 AccRel brass to me on monday

Neal and I will be hunting with some of this in 2 weeks! - N I L G A I

I added a bunch of loads for the 458 and 470 to ammo guild.. 302 hex bullets, 480gr DGX, 350, 450 turnbulls, and 400 and 450 gr solids

Just received the first run of 458 AR and 500 AR --
trim, form/sized/trimmed, deburred, loaded 50 total pieces.

Neal and I going for NILGAI this weekend!

I've got 25 of Neal's 320gr copper flying hex bullets in the 458, and 25 570gr woodys in the 500 ar!

i put the 500 in a hogue stock.. heh, hope it don't break!

Jeffe,

Are you going to anneal the .458 AR brass before or after the first firing?

after the first firing.. but i thought HARD about doing it before.. though they formed so easy!

<okay, so pretend I didn't send my 458 AR dies to Oz - it's a POORLY marked 45LC box, to look like a 458 AR>

Hornady making 416, 458, and 470 dies, Commerically available 500 AR dies, Headstamped brass....

WOW, I am feeling pretty accomplished on these

Cool, I like 'em. Rodney.

Cool $#!t

Think we need a .600AR Rodney.

Way to go El Jeffe


Keith

quote:

Originally posted by Rodney H.{500Jeffery}:
Think we need a .600AR Rodney.

Hmmm...

A standard action no belt 600...
That would be a heavily rebated 600 nitro case with 10 thou taper and 20 thou shoulders. Kinda like a 600 version of the 585 Nyati.
The 500 AR has about 20 thou shoulders...

It would look like this but a tad fatter.



.695" casehead diameter
.685" shoulder diameter
.645" neck diameter
.640" Rim Diameter

Single stack in what action?

"PH" on the way. .
Rodney.

How about shortening the trex case to 2.85", taking a few thou from the taper, and necking up to .620"
Rodney.

The TRex is pretty much a rimmed unrebated 600 case...

The 600 Rodney PH...

The issue would be getting Trex brass.

Do a long neck and you can keep it 3"

It would be like the 606 Mammoth but a true .620" 600 caliber and not the .599" like the Mammoth.

http://www.custombrassandbullets.com/606mammoth.html

The A-Square web site still offers loaded ammo and brass for handloading, don't know how availlable it is. Midway has it on there inventory list, but shows out of stock and no back order. Still looking. Rodney.

no improvement over the 600 OK, i reckon, as the ok IS a 600 NE.. shorten that to fit in a PH

Just messin 'round, but you never know with this bunch
Rodney.