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Originally posted by Saeed:

Can you lot accusing him of being in wrong provide us with one dissatisfied client?

Just ONE will do.

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

Can you lot accusing him of being in wrong provide us with one dissatisfied client?

Just ONE will do.

Corey.

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Originally posted by MJines:
. . . I would say that a client that pays for a hunt, never gets to go on the hunt (and even gets talked into upping the scope and expense of the hunt) and does not have his money refunded that he paid for the hunt that never happened is probably the most dissatisfied client there could ever be.

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Originally posted by dogcat:
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Where is the money???

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Originally posted by MJines:
. . . I would say that a client that pays for a hunt, never gets to go on the hunt (and even gets talked into upping the scope and expense of the hunt) and does not have his money refunded that he paid for the hunt that never happened is probably the most dissatisfied client there could ever be.

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Originally posted by fairgame:

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Originally posted by dogcat:
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Where is the money???

Thanks, Dogcat I just hunted a client who booked with me because he resented your accusations and we took Sitatunga, Buffalo, Black Lechwe, and Tsessebe in 4 days of hunting and he commented that I was one of the best PHs he had hunted within this continent. His first hunt was 1975 with Bunny Allen in Kenya so go figure.

Guess I owe you a commission?

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Originally posted by BaxterB:

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Originally posted by fairgame:

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Originally posted by dogcat:
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Where is the money???

Thanks, Dogcat I just hunted a client who booked with me because he resented your accusations and we took Sitatunga, Buffalo, Black Lechwe, and Tsessebe in 4 days of hunting and he commented that I was one of the best PHs he had hunted within this continent. His first hunt was 1975 with Bunny Allen in Kenya so go figure.

Guess I owe you a commission?

I hope for a hunt report. Not many left who have hunted Kenya.

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I hope for a hunt report. Not many left who have hunted Kenya.

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Originally posted by fairgame:

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Originally posted by dogcat:
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Where is the money???

Thanks, Dogcat I just hunted a client who booked with me because he resented your accusations and we took Sitatunga, Buffalo, Black Lechwe, and Tsessebe in 4 days of hunting and he commented that I was one of the best PHs he had hunted within this continent. His first hunt was 1975 with Bunny Allen in Kenya so go figure.

Guess I owe you a commission?

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Originally posted by dogcat:

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Originally posted by fairgame:

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Originally posted by dogcat:
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Where is the money???

Thanks, Dogcat I just hunted a client who booked with me because he resented your accusations and we took Sitatunga, Buffalo, Black Lechwe, and Tsessebe in 4 days of hunting and he commented that I was one of the best PHs he had hunted within this continent. His first hunt was 1975 with Bunny Allen in Kenya so go figure.

Guess I owe you a commission?

I will pass. Go ahead send your commission to CME. He is the one you and Ibi owe.

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Originally posted by the Pom:
Hi Dogcat! Some of us believe in putting your money where your mouth is. You put up or shut up! Why don't you hop on a plane to Lusaka and sort Ibi out? It is almost next door for you compared with flying from New Zealand.
The story I got from other members of the hunting community in Zambia was that Ibi won the first tender under the old government. This was cancelled and the block was re-tendered by the new government. Ibi won this tender too as his was the only tender. A jelous business enemy went to court and got an injunction blocking that tender on the grounds that corruption was involved. The new government are having an anti corruption drive. The only problem is that all the old civil servants who sign off all tenders are still in their jobs, and nothing will be approved without a brown envelope. Therefor I presume there was reasonable grounds for the injunction but you still can't get a concession without the envelope.
At least Zambia is a democracy where Presidents concede when they lose an election, and the new government is making an effort against corruption.
Ibi came to an agreement with poor old Corey that he would pay him back at $5000/month. After the first payment was made Ibi was apparently so outraged by what he considered to be the slurs on his upright, honest, character on AR when he was complying with his agreement with Corey that his nose got seriously out of joint.
He refused to communicate in any way with Andrew Baldry and was so pissed off that he stopped any further payments.
I have no way of confirming the veracity of what I was told in Andrew's absence but that was the story.
If it is true, Corey can thank his friends on AR for Ibi stopping the payments!
Whatever you and I may think about Ibi's character, in his eyes he is an upright, powerful and influential member of the business community who has been severely wronged and insulted.
He is waiting for sincere apologies on AR from Corey and his supporters before paying any more.
It will be a bad day in Hell before that happens! I have been pretty rude about him myself and I'm as likely to apologise as you are!
In my opinion and in the opinion of those I spoke to in Zambia the only solution lies in the Zambian courts. Ibi is so concerned about his reputation that I suspect he would quickly settle out of court.
I have no way of confirming any of the above, it is merely the current gossip in Zambia.
If you really want some other Zambian hunting gossip, last week a PH was operated on for a bullet in the buttocks from a Game Scouts rifle. Now that will be really jucy story when the facts come out but at present it is being kept very quiet!

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Originally posted by BaxterB:

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Originally posted by fairgame:

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Originally posted by dogcat:
back to the top.

Where is the money???

Thanks, Dogcat I just hunted a client who booked with me because he resented your accusations and we took Sitatunga, Buffalo, Black Lechwe, and Tsessebe in 4 days of hunting and he commented that I was one of the best PHs he had hunted within this continent. His first hunt was 1975 with Bunny Allen in Kenya so go figure.

Guess I owe you a commission?

I hope for a hunt report. Not many left who have hunted Kenya.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by the Pom:
Hi Dogcat! Some of us believe in putting your money where your mouth is. You put up or shut up! Why don't you hop on a plane to Lusaka and sort Ibi out? It is almost next door for you compared with flying from New Zealand.
The story I got from other members of the hunting community in Zambia was that Ibi won the first tender under the old government. This was cancelled and the block was re-tendered by the new government. Ibi won this tender too as his was the only tender. A jelous business enemy went to court and got an injunction blocking that tender on the grounds that corruption was involved. The new government are having an anti corruption drive. The only problem is that all the old civil servants who sign off all tenders are still in their jobs, and nothing will be approved without a brown envelope. Therefor I presume there was reasonable grounds for the injunction but you still can't get a concession without the envelope.
At least Zambia is a democracy where Presidents concede when they lose an election, and the new government is making an effort against corruption.
Ibi came to an agreement with poor old Corey that he would pay him back at $5000/month. After the first payment was made Ibi was apparently so outraged by what he considered to be the slurs on his upright, honest, character on AR when he was complying with his agreement with Corey that his nose got seriously out of joint.
He refused to communicate in any way with Andrew Baldry and was so pissed off that he stopped any further payments.
I have no way of confirming the veracity of what I was told in Andrew's absence but that was the story.
If it is true, Corey can thank his friends on AR for Ibi stopping the payments!
Whatever you and I may think about Ibi's character, in his eyes he is an upright, powerful and influential member of the business community who has been severely wronged and insulted.
He is waiting for sincere apologies on AR from Corey and his supporters before paying any more.
It will be a bad day in Hell before that happens! I have been pretty rude about him myself and I'm as likely to apologise as you are!
In my opinion and in the opinion of those I spoke to in Zambia the only solution lies in the Zambian courts. Ibi is so concerned about his reputation that I suspect he would quickly settle out of court.
I have no way of confirming any of the above, it is merely the current gossip in Zambia.
If you really want some other Zambian hunting gossip, last week a PH was operated on for a bullet in the buttocks from a Game Scouts rifle. Now that will be really jucy story when the facts come out but at present it is being kept very quiet!

Facts cannot be denied!

So here we have two individuals who are so aggressive towards Andrew, but lack the desire to actually do anything towards getting CME his money from Ibi.

What does that tell you??

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I hope for a hunt report. Not many left who have hunted Kenya.

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Originally posted by the Pom:
Hi Dogcat! Some of us believe in putting your money where your mouth is. You put up or shut up! Why don't you hop on a plane to Lusaka and sort Ibi out? It is almost next door for you compared with flying from New Zealand.
The story I got from other members of the hunting community in Zambia was that Ibi won the first tender under the old government. This was cancelled and the block was re-tendered by the new government. Ibi won this tender too as his was the only tender. A jelous business enemy went to court and got an injunction blocking that tender on the grounds that corruption was involved. The new government are having an anti corruption drive. The only problem is that all the old civil servants who sign off all tenders are still in their jobs, and nothing will be approved without a brown envelope. Therefor I presume there was reasonable grounds for the injunction but you still can't get a concession without the envelope.
At least Zambia is a democracy where Presidents concede when they lose an election, and the new government is making an effort against corruption.
Ibi came to an agreement with poor old Corey that he would pay him back at $5000/month.
Apparently Ibi is a lying POS
After the first payment was made Ibi was apparently so outraged by what he considered to be the slurs on his upright, honest, character on AR when he was complying with his agreement with Corey that his nose got seriously out of joint.
A ridiculous response from a scoundrel who had no intention of paying
He refused to communicate in any way with Andrew Baldry and was so pissed off that he stopped any further payments.
another ridiculous excuse for why he's a scoundrel
I have no way of confirming the veracity of what I was told in Andrew's absence but that was the story.
If it is true, Corey can thank his friends on AR for Ibi stopping the payments!
That would be an equally ridiculous conclusion, Ibi is responsible for not paying, no one else
Whatever you and I may think about Ibi's character, in his eyes he is an upright, powerful and influential member of the business community who has been severely wronged and insulted.
another ridiculous position by what appears to be an insolent child
He is waiting for sincere apologies on AR from Corey and his supporters before paying any more.
effing moron if that is indeed the case
It will be a bad day in Hell before that happens! I have been pretty rude about him myself and I'm as likely to apologise as you are!
In my opinion and in the opinion of those I spoke to in Zambia the only solution lies in the Zambian courts. Ibi is so concerned about his reputation that I suspect he would quickly settle out of court.
I have no way of confirming any of the above, it is merely the current gossip in Zambia.
If you really want some other Zambian hunting gossip, last week a PH was operated on for a bullet in the buttocks from a Game Scouts rifle. Now that will be really jucy story when the facts come out but at present it is being kept very quiet!

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Originally posted by the Pom:
Hi Dogcat! Some of us believe in putting your money where your mouth is. You put up or shut up! Why don't you hop on a plane to Lusaka and sort Ibi out? It is almost next door for you compared with flying from New Zealand.
The story I got from other members of the hunting community in Zambia was that Ibi won the first tender under the old government. This was cancelled and the block was re-tendered by the new government. Ibi won this tender too as his was the only tender. A jelous business enemy went to court and got an injunction blocking that tender on the grounds that corruption was involved. The new government are having an anti corruption drive. The only problem is that all the old civil servants who sign off all tenders are still in their jobs, and nothing will be approved without a brown envelope. Therefor I presume there was reasonable grounds for the injunction but you still can't get a concession without the envelope.
At least Zambia is a democracy where Presidents concede when they lose an election, and the new government is making an effort against corruption.
Ibi came to an agreement with poor old Corey that he would pay him back at $5000/month. After the first payment was made Ibi was apparently so outraged by what he considered to be the slurs on his upright, honest, character on AR when he was complying with his agreement with Corey that his nose got seriously out of joint.
He refused to communicate in any way with Andrew Baldry and was so pissed off that he stopped any further payments.
I have no way of confirming the veracity of what I was told in Andrew's absence but that was the story.
If it is true, Corey can thank his friends on AR for Ibi stopping the payments!
Whatever you and I may think about Ibi's character, in his eyes he is an upright, powerful and influential member of the business community who has been severely wronged and insulted.
He is waiting for sincere apologies on AR from Corey and his supporters before paying any more.
It will be a bad day in Hell before that happens! I have been pretty rude about him myself and I'm as likely to apologise as you are!
In my opinion and in the opinion of those I spoke to in Zambia the only solution lies in the Zambian courts. Ibi is so concerned about his reputation that I suspect he would quickly settle out of court.
I have no way of confirming any of the above, it is merely the current gossip in Zambia.
If you really want some other Zambian hunting gossip, last week a PH was operated on for a bullet in the buttocks from a Game Scouts rifle. Now that will be really jucy story when the facts come out but at present it is being kept very quiet!

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Originally posted by the Pom:
Hi Dogcat! Some of us believe in putting your money where your mouth is. You put up or shut up! Why don't you hop on a plane to Lusaka and sort Ibi out? It is almost next door for you compared with flying from New Zealand.
The story I got from other members of the hunting community in Zambia was that Ibi won the first tender under the old government. This was cancelled and the block was re-tendered by the new government. Ibi won this tender too as his was the only tender. A jelous business enemy went to court and got an injunction blocking that tender on the grounds that corruption was involved. The new government are having an anti corruption drive. The only problem is that all the old civil servants who sign off all tenders are still in their jobs, and nothing will be approved without a brown envelope. Therefor I presume there was reasonable grounds for the injunction but you still can't get a concession without the envelope.
At least Zambia is a democracy where Presidents concede when they lose an election, and the new government is making an effort against corruption.
Ibi came to an agreement with poor old Corey that he would pay him back at $5000/month. After the first payment was made Ibi was apparently so outraged by what he considered to be the slurs on his upright, honest, character on AR when he was complying with his agreement with Corey that his nose got seriously out of joint.
He refused to communicate in any way with Andrew Baldry and was so pissed off that he stopped any further payments.
I have no way of confirming the veracity of what I was told in Andrew's absence but that was the story.
If it is true, Corey can thank his friends on AR for Ibi stopping the payments!
Whatever you and I may think about Ibi's character, in his eyes he is an upright, powerful and influential member of the business community who has been severely wronged and insulted.
He is waiting for sincere apologies on AR from Corey and his supporters before paying any more.
It will be a bad day in Hell before that happens! I have been pretty rude about him myself and I'm as likely to apologise as you are!
In my opinion and in the opinion of those I spoke to in Zambia the only solution lies in the Zambian courts. Ibi is so concerned about his reputation that I suspect he would quickly settle out of court.
I have no way of confirming any of the above, it is merely the current gossip in Zambia.
If you really want some other Zambian hunting gossip, last week a PH was operated on for a bullet in the buttocks from a Game Scouts rifle. Now that will be really jucy story when the facts come out but at present it is being kept very quiet!

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Originally posted by the Pom:
Hi Dogcat! Some of us believe in putting your money where your mouth is. You put up or shut up! Why don't you hop on a plane to Lusaka and sort Ibi out? It is almost next door for you compared with flying from New Zealand.
The story I got from other members of the hunting community in Zambia was that Ibi won the first tender under the old government. This was cancelled and the block was re-tendered by the new government. Ibi won this tender too as his was the only tender. A jelous business enemy went to court and got an injunction blocking that tender on the grounds that corruption was involved. The new government are having an anti corruption drive. The only problem is that all the old civil servants who sign off all tenders are still in their jobs, and nothing will be approved without a brown envelope. Therefor I presume there was reasonable grounds for the injunction but you still can't get a concession without the envelope.
At least Zambia is a democracy where Presidents concede when they lose an election, and the new government is making an effort against corruption.
Ibi came to an agreement with poor old Corey that he would pay him back at $5000/month. After the first payment was made Ibi was apparently so outraged by what he considered to be the slurs on his upright, honest, character on AR when he was complying with his agreement with Corey that his nose got seriously out of joint.
He refused to communicate in any way with Andrew Baldry and was so pissed off that he stopped any further payments.
I have no way of confirming the veracity of what I was told in Andrew's absence but that was the story.
If it is true, Corey can thank his friends on AR for Ibi stopping the payments!
Whatever you and I may think about Ibi's character, in his eyes he is an upright, powerful and influential member of the business community who has been severely wronged and insulted.
He is waiting for sincere apologies on AR from Corey and his supporters before paying any more.
It will be a bad day in Hell before that happens! I have been pretty rude about him myself and I'm as likely to apologise as you are!
In my opinion and in the opinion of those I spoke to in Zambia the only solution lies in the Zambian courts. Ibi is so concerned about his reputation that I suspect he would quickly settle out of court.
I have no way of confirming any of the above, it is merely the current gossip in Zambia.
If you really want some other Zambian hunting gossip, last week a PH was operated on for a bullet in the buttocks from a Game Scouts rifle. Now that will be really jucy story when the facts come out but at present it is being kept very quiet!

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Originally posted by Kpoynter:
You literally must be a Quintuple Vaxed, card carrying NZ Leftist that flogged for that Horse Toothed Dictator.
Your viewpoints are OUT THERE
I think of the Hunting Community as generally having shared values and then there’s dudes like you
It’s not that you are a Dumb As!
Your something entirely different that’s worse
Tell us you aren’t a Leftist.. I dare you
Tell us you don’t have a minimum of 4 Shots…please

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Originally posted by larryshores:

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Originally posted by the Pom:
Hi Dogcat! Some of us believe in putting your money where your mouth is. You put up or shut up! Why don't you hop on a plane to Lusaka and sort Ibi out? It is almost next door for you compared with flying from New Zealand.
The story I got from other members of the hunting community in Zambia was that Ibi won the first tender under the old government. This was cancelled and the block was re-tendered by the new government. Ibi won this tender too as his was the only tender. A jelous business enemy went to court and got an injunction blocking that tender on the grounds that corruption was involved. The new government are having an anti corruption drive. The only problem is that all the old civil servants who sign off all tenders are still in their jobs, and nothing will be approved without a brown envelope. Therefor I presume there was reasonable grounds for the injunction but you still can't get a concession without the envelope.
At least Zambia is a democracy where Presidents concede when they lose an election, and the new government is making an effort against corruption.
Ibi came to an agreement with poor old Corey that he would pay him back at $5000/month. After the first payment was made Ibi was apparently so outraged by what he considered to be the slurs on his upright, honest, character on AR when he was complying with his agreement with Corey that his nose got seriously out of joint.
He refused to communicate in any way with Andrew Baldry and was so pissed off that he stopped any further payments.
I have no way of confirming the veracity of what I was told in Andrew's absence but that was the story.
If it is true, Corey can thank his friends on AR for Ibi stopping the payments!
Whatever you and I may think about Ibi's character, in his eyes he is an upright, powerful and influential member of the business community who has been severely wronged and insulted.
He is waiting for sincere apologies on AR from Corey and his supporters before paying any more.
It will be a bad day in Hell before that happens! I have been pretty rude about him myself and I'm as likely to apologise as you are!
In my opinion and in the opinion of those I spoke to in Zambia the only solution lies in the Zambian courts. Ibi is so concerned about his reputation that I suspect he would quickly settle out of court.
I have no way of confirming any of the above, it is merely the current gossip in Zambia.
If you really want some other Zambian hunting gossip, last week a PH was operated on for a bullet in the buttocks from a Game Scouts rifle. Now that will be really jucy story when the facts come out but at present it is being kept very quiet!

I am not forming any opinion on whether these conversations took place .

I believe some of this . However , having seen the e mails on this matter , some of it it is total BS.

If indeed Ibi finds his actions honorable , he is delusional.

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Originally posted by the Pom:
Hi Kpoynter, thank you for your kind words! If you dont like the message, shoot the messenger! I merely reported the story I was told by fairly prominant members of the PH community in Zambia when Mr Baldry was not there. If you don't like the story or choose not to believe a word of it that is your privilage. Your response says a lot more about you than it does about me. In fact it says rather more than it should about your personality.
Just for your information in the unlikely event that you ever come to NZ to hunt. As you suspect, the centre of politics in NZ is way to the left of US politics, just as it is in all other Western democracies. The centre of politics in NZ is somewhere on the right wing of the USA Democratic party. In NZ I have been a member of the most right-wing party for 45 years. Most people there would consider me somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun but in America I would be considered a very moderate Republican.
I never thought I would have to defend the reputation of Jacinda Ardern, a politician who i spent a great deal of money trying to get rid of but here goes.
Your description of the young lady as a "Horse Toothed Dictator" is interesting as, once again, it says more about you than it does about her. Ardern was, and is, a very astute politician and a worthy enemy, but dictators refuse to go when they lose an election. She won two elections, the latter with a huge popular majority, then resigned on her own terms when she could see that she would lose the next election.
I completely fail to see how reporting conversations I had in Zambia makes me into some sort of Marxist or even a supporter of Ardern.
If you wish to engage in sensible debate on this forum you would make more impact if you stick to reasoned argument rather than personal abuse. While I tend to agree with M Jines and dogcats opinions on most subjects on this forum but disagree completely on this one subject, they do at least present reasoned arguments for their point of view and this must be respected.
I believe the only reason we disagree about this is that I know Mr Baldry and they do not.

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Originally posted by the Pom:
Hi Kpoynter, thank you for your kind words! If you dont like the message, shoot the messenger! I merely reported the story I was told by fairly prominant members of the PH community in Zambia when Mr Baldry was not there. If you don't like the story or choose not to believe a word of it that is your privilage. Your response says a lot more about you than it does about me. In fact it says rather more than it should about your personality.
Just for your information in the unlikely event that you ever come to NZ to hunt. As you suspect, the centre of politics in NZ is way to the left of US politics, just as it is in all other Western democracies. The centre of politics in NZ is somewhere on the right wing of the USA Democratic party. In NZ I have been a member of the most right-wing party for 45 years. Most people there would consider me somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun but in America I would be considered a very moderate Republican.
I never thought I would have to defend the reputation of Jacinda Ardern, a politician who i spent a great deal of money trying to get rid of but here goes.
Your description of the young lady as a "Horse Toothed Dictator" is interesting as, once again, it says more about you than it does about her. Ardern was, and is, a very astute politician and a worthy enemy, but dictators refuse to go when they lose an election. She won two elections, the latter with a huge popular majority, then resigned on her own terms when she could see that she would lose the next election.
I completely fail to see how reporting conversations I had in Zambia makes me into some sort of Marxist or even a supporter of Ardern.
If you wish to engage in sensible debate on this forum you would make more impact if you stick to reasoned argument rather than personal abuse. While I tend to agree with M Jines and dogcats opinions on most subjects on this forum but disagree completely on this one subject, they do at least present reasoned arguments for their point of view and this must be respected.
I believe the only reason we disagree about this is that I know Mr Baldry and they do not.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by larryshores:

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Originally posted by the Pom:
Hi Dogcat! Some of us believe in putting your money where your mouth is. You put up or shut up! Why don't you hop on a plane to Lusaka and sort Ibi out? It is almost next door for you compared with flying from New Zealand.
The story I got from other members of the hunting community in Zambia was that Ibi won the first tender under the old government. This was cancelled and the block was re-tendered by the new government. Ibi won this tender too as his was the only tender. A jelous business enemy went to court and got an injunction blocking that tender on the grounds that corruption was involved. The new government are having an anti corruption drive. The only problem is that all the old civil servants who sign off all tenders are still in their jobs, and nothing will be approved without a brown envelope. Therefor I presume there was reasonable grounds for the injunction but you still can't get a concession without the envelope.
At least Zambia is a democracy where Presidents concede when they lose an election, and the new government is making an effort against corruption.
Ibi came to an agreement with poor old Corey that he would pay him back at $5000/month. After the first payment was made Ibi was apparently so outraged by what he considered to be the slurs on his upright, honest, character on AR when he was complying with his agreement with Corey that his nose got seriously out of joint.
He refused to communicate in any way with Andrew Baldry and was so pissed off that he stopped any further payments.
I have no way of confirming the veracity of what I was told in Andrew's absence but that was the story.
If it is true, Corey can thank his friends on AR for Ibi stopping the payments!
Whatever you and I may think about Ibi's character, in his eyes he is an upright, powerful and influential member of the business community who has been severely wronged and insulted.
He is waiting for sincere apologies on AR from Corey and his supporters before paying any more.
It will be a bad day in Hell before that happens! I have been pretty rude about him myself and I'm as likely to apologise as you are!
In my opinion and in the opinion of those I spoke to in Zambia the only solution lies in the Zambian courts. Ibi is so concerned about his reputation that I suspect he would quickly settle out of court.
I have no way of confirming any of the above, it is merely the current gossip in Zambia.
If you really want some other Zambian hunting gossip, last week a PH was operated on for a bullet in the buttocks from a Game Scouts rifle. Now that will be really jucy story when the facts come out but at present it is being kept very quiet!

I am not forming any opinion on whether these conversations took place .

I believe some of this . However , having seen the e mails on this matter , some of it it is total BS.

If indeed Ibi finds his actions honorable , he is delusional.

Larry,

I have also seen messages that throw some light on others involved in this fiasco.

I am not at liberty to disclose, or say what I think, regarding these as I was told these in confidence,.

Suffice to say that say that no one involved, as far as I can see, is totally innocent.

But, the real matter is CMW paid his money to IBI.

IBI accepted this, and agreed to pay it back.

Paid what I understand $5,000.

Then decided he would not pay any more.

The buck stops at IBI.

Frankly, the only way to resolve this is to take him to court in Zambia.

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Originally posted by the Pom:
Hi Kpoynter, thank you for your kind words! If you dont like the message, shoot the messenger! I merely reported the story I was told by fairly prominant members of the PH community in Zambia when Mr Baldry was not there. If you don't like the story or choose not to believe a word of it that is your privilage. Your response says a lot more about you than it does about me. In fact it says rather more than it should about your personality.
Just for your information in the unlikely event that you ever come to NZ to hunt. As you suspect, the centre of politics in NZ is way to the left of US politics, just as it is in all other Western democracies. The centre of politics in NZ is somewhere on the right wing of the USA Democratic party. In NZ I have been a member of the most right-wing party for 45 years. Most people there would consider me somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun but in America I would be considered a very moderate Republican.
I never thought I would have to defend the reputation of Jacinda Ardern, a politician who i spent a great deal of money trying to get rid of but here goes.
Your description of the young lady as a "Horse Toothed Dictator" is interesting as, once again, it says more about you than it does about her. Ardern was, and is, a very astute politician and a worthy enemy, but dictators refuse to go when they lose an election. She won two elections, the latter with a huge popular majority, then resigned on her own terms when she could see that she would lose the next election.
I completely fail to see how reporting conversations I had in Zambia makes me into some sort of Marxist or even a supporter of Ardern.
If you wish to engage in sensible debate on this forum you would make more impact if you stick to reasoned argument rather than personal abuse. While I tend to agree with M Jines and dogcats opinions on most subjects on this forum but disagree completely on this one subject, they do at least present reasoned arguments for their point of view and this must be respected.
I believe the only reason we disagree about this is that I know Mr Baldry and they do not.

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it is pretty hard to pay CME back from jail with no earning power...

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Originally posted by dogcat:
Still no repayment for CME.
Disgusting....

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Originally posted by dogcat:
The blame/accountability falls on both.