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Baldry has posted exactly 0 hunt offers on the forums this year.

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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Baldry has posted exactly 0 hunt offers on the forums this year.

Maybe he is providing his services as a freelance PH to whoever has hunting days to offer, which is much safer than recommending hunts.

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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Baldry has posted exactly 0 hunt offers on the forums this year.

Maybe he is providing his services as a freelance PH to whoever has hunting days to offer, which is much safer than recommending hunts.

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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Baldry has posted exactly 0 hunt offers on the forums this year.

Maybe he is providing his services as a freelance PH to whoever has hunting days to offer, which is much safer than recommending hunts.

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Originally posted by Frostbit:

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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Baldry has posted exactly 0 hunt offers on the forums this year.

Maybe he is providing his services as a freelance PH to whoever has hunting days to offer, which is much safer than recommending hunts.

He also as an established group of satisfied hunters who return and hunt with him. Perhaps he does not need AR advertising

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Originally posted by Cme:

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Originally posted by Frostbit:

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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Baldry has posted exactly 0 hunt offers on the forums this year.

Maybe he is providing his services as a freelance PH to whoever has hunting days to offer, which is much safer than recommending hunts.

He also as an established group of satisfied hunters who return and hunt with him. Perhaps he does not need AR advertising

Im sure that’s it…oh wait probably not!


I don’t think Buzz has left anyone high and dry for 80k in day rates. If that was the case I’m sure the reaction on here would be the same.

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Originally posted by Frostbit:

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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Baldry has posted exactly 0 hunt offers on the forums this year.

Maybe he is providing his services as a freelance PH to whoever has hunting days to offer, which is much safer than recommending hunts.

He also as an established group of satisfied hunters who return and hunt with him. Perhaps he does not need AR advertising and the obvious downside that offers. Buzz no longer posts or advertises here and has no issue booking hunts.

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Originally posted by BaxterB:

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Originally posted by Cme:

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Originally posted by Frostbit:

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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Baldry has posted exactly 0 hunt offers on the forums this year.

Maybe he is providing his services as a freelance PH to whoever has hunting days to offer, which is much safer than recommending hunts.

He also as an established group of satisfied hunters who return and hunt with him. Perhaps he does not need AR advertising

Im sure that’s it…oh wait probably not!


I don’t think Buzz has left anyone high and dry for 80k in day rates. If that was the case I’m sure the reaction on here would be the same.

Have you been in contact with anyone at the embassy or FBI?

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Originally posted by Safari2:

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Originally posted by Cme:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by dogcat:
Baldry reminds me of Trump - "it is rigged", "I am not the guilty party" "it is Ibi who did this"

Oh well, this entire episode will live right up there with Jeff Blair and his mess....

Chalk and cheese!

All Andrew did was recommend Ibi.

Does any of us here get the same treatment if we recommend someone and it turns south?

Not true! He used this website as a way to conduct business and make money. He was a party to the entire process. He negotiated the contract and terms with Ibi. Andrew was the conduit to getting a deal done with Ibi. Acting like Andrew has no culpability is lazy. He should be held to the same standard as Ibi. If you are selling hunts for a thief, and stand to make a significant amount of money off of said hunt, then the person selling the hunt bares equal responsibility to make things right. Notice, Baldry has posted exactly 0 hunt offers on the forums this year.

I agree!

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Originally posted by Ongwe:
The FBI likes investigating wire fraud. It's an easy meal. And 80 thousand might be enough to get their interest.

After investigating, I wonder if they would consider Baldry an innocent dupe or a willing accomplice.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by Frostbit:

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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Baldry has posted exactly 0 hunt offers on the forums this year.

Maybe he is providing his services as a freelance PH to whoever has hunting days to offer, which is much safer than recommending hunts.

He also as an established group of satisfied hunters who return and hunt with him. Perhaps he does not need AR advertising and the obvious downside that offers. Buzz no longer posts or advertises here and has no issue booking hunts.

Jim, Apples & Oranges. Buzz & Co. have their own area(s). They also have a robust international marketing strategy.

Andrew is pretty much word of mouth. In fact, remember you calling me and asking for my thoughts about hunting with him prior your Lion?

I'm past placing blame here. I hunted with Andrew, had a good time, shot our stuff. That's all.

I personally think the hunting community needs to vet people (all People) we hunt with. Protecting friends and playing favorites shouldn't ever change the facts.

How would you and Joyce feel about losing 80K?

Again, I'm not assigning blame, just asking you an honest question.

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Why would an Embassy get involved ? It's a private contractual matter that has gone south, not diplomatic plus it involves DG hunting! Imagine that they would not touch it with the proverbial barge poe!

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by Ongwe:
The FBI likes investigating wire fraud. It's an easy meal. And 80 thousand might be enough to get their interest.

After investigating, I wonder if they would consider Baldry an innocent dupe or a willing accomplice.

I bet the emails and text messages going back and forth between Andrew and Ibi would be enlightening to say the least . . . and probably highly incriminating. That said, I am sure Andrew and Ibi have made a concerted effort to purge those emails . . . if the efforts put into modifying posts here to reflect a changing story is any indication.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by Frostbit:

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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Baldry has posted exactly 0 hunt offers on the forums this year.

Maybe he is providing his services as a freelance PH to whoever has hunting days to offer, which is much safer than recommending hunts.

He also as an established group of satisfied hunters who return and hunt with him. Perhaps he does not need AR advertising and the obvious downside that offers. Buzz no longer posts or advertises here and has no issue booking hunts.

Jim, Apples & Oranges. Buzz & Co. have their own area(s). They also have a robust international marketing strategy.

Andrew is pretty much word of mouth. In fact, remember you calling me and asking for my thoughts about hunting with him prior your Lion?

I'm past placing blame here. I hunted with Andrew, had a good time, shot our stuff. That's all.

I personally think the hunting community needs to vet people (all People) we hunt with. Protecting friends and playing favorites shouldn't ever change the facts.

How would you and Joyce feel about losing 80K?

Again, I'm not assigning blame, just asking you an honest question.

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Originally posted by Frostbit:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by Frostbit:

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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Baldry has posted exactly 0 hunt offers on the forums this year.

Maybe he is providing his services as a freelance PH to whoever has hunting days to offer, which is much safer than recommending hunts.

He also as an established group of satisfied hunters who return and hunt with him. Perhaps he does not need AR advertising and the obvious downside that offers. Buzz no longer posts or advertises here and has no issue booking hunts.

Jim, Apples & Oranges. Buzz & Co. have their own area(s). They also have a robust international marketing strategy.

Andrew is pretty much word of mouth. In fact, remember you calling me and asking for my thoughts about hunting with him prior your Lion?

I'm past placing blame here. I hunted with Andrew, had a good time, shot our stuff. That's all.

I personally think the hunting community needs to vet people (all People) we hunt with. Protecting friends and playing favorites shouldn't ever change the facts.

How would you and Joyce feel about losing 80K?

Again, I'm not assigning blame, just asking you an honest question.

I agree completely with you Steve. I vetted all our hunts to the best of my ability. Calling you over ten years ago is a good example. You had and have far more experience than me.

I’m not defending Andrew nor disparaging Buzz. I’ve hunted with both. Both experiences were worth the price of admission.

If either had screwed me out of 80K I would likely mention it here in order to give others pause to think but I would never think that post or thread would get me even part of my money back.

Who has that money now?

That’s the person that needs to be pursued and the suggestions by Fulvio make sense.

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Originally posted by larryshores:
I still do not understand why no official action has been taken by any Zambian authority.

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Originally posted by DCS Member:
I will donate one of the two “Lion” prints I have from Andrew’s donations to the Stu Taylor recovery for auction. That was a shitshow as well.

Hell, maybe both. It may not get Cme whole, but it might get him a steak dinner.

Saeed, I hope this is allowed.

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Originally posted by Hasher:


Anyone notice that Andy ballsack has stopped posting in this thread? I’m guessing he found it tiring having to go back and re-edit all those posts to ensure his stories stay straight.

Making threats against the OP???

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Originally posted by bcap:

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Originally posted by Hasher:


Anyone notice that Andy ballsack has stopped posting in this thread? I’m guessing he found it tiring having to go back and re-edit all those posts to ensure his stories stay straight.

Making threats against the OP???

Did not notice that just that some ass clowns like yourself just keep posting stupid shit

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Originally posted by Hasher:
Saeed.

You will notice my post above it concentrates on ibi the thieving rat.

I merely commented that ole ballsack seems to have quit posting on this and it was my opinion that it was that he was tiring of keeping his story straight and having to edit all these pages of posts to do so.


Ibi is the one who committed the crime but I still believe
Old Andy bears some responsibility in this. How much I don’t know but he helped put it all together. The honorable thing to do would be to help u ravel all of this.

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I still do not understand why no official action has been taken by any Zambian authority.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

Andrew bears as much responsibility as anyone of us who recommends someone and that turns out to be wrong.

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

Andrew bears as much responsibility as anyone of us who recommends someone and that turns out to be wrong.

. . . in a word, bullshit. He marketed and sold the hunt, he interfaced between Corey and Ibi, he secured the quota from Ibi, he intended to be the PH on the hunt, etc. Your disingenuous efforts to paint Baldry as some innocent bystander only serve to make him look worse in the eyes of most.

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Originally posted by Hasher:
Assclown?

Oh you wind me sir with you sharp wit and rhetoric.

I’ll give you a few minutes so your wife can explain the big words to you.

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

Andrew bears as much responsibility as anyone of us who recommends someone and that turns out to be wrong.

. . . in a word, bullshit. He marketed and sold the hunt, he interfaced between Corey and Ibi, he secured the quota from Ibi, he intended to be the PH on the hunt, etc. Your disingenuous efforts to paint Baldry as some innocent bystander only serve to make him look worse in the eyes of most.

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Originally posted by Hasher:
Almost 2 more weeks have passed with no additional signs of recompense from ibi the thieving jackal.

Anyone notice that Andy ballsack has stopped posting in this thread? I’m guessing he found it tiring having to go back and re-edit all those posts to ensure his stories stay straight.

Is ibi the thieving swine still
Making threats against the OP???

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

Andrew bears as much responsibility as anyone of us who recommends someone and that turns out to be wrong.

. . . in a word, bullshit. He marketed and sold the hunt, he interfaced between Corey and Ibi, he secured the quota from Ibi, he intended to be the PH on the hunt, etc. Your disingenuous efforts to paint Baldry as some innocent bystander only serve to make him look worse in the eyes of most.

Prove to us where Andrew is guilty of taking any money!

Applying lawyers rules made in America to someone in Africa??

Good luck!

Why don’t you take up the clients case?

How much would you charge him?

I bet he wouldn’t have much left!

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Originally posted by fairgame:

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

Andrew bears as much responsibility as anyone of us who recommends someone and that turns out to be wrong.

. . . in a word, bullshit. He marketed and sold the hunt, he interfaced between Corey and Ibi, he secured the quota from Ibi, he intended to be the PH on the hunt, etc. Your disingenuous efforts to paint Baldry as some innocent bystander only serve to make him look worse in the eyes of most.

Correct and that is how it works. All my hunts have seen the Hunter introduced to the Outfitter who provides the contract and deposit details of which I have little influence. As I do not add commissions or finders fees, all financial agreements are between the Hunter and Operator. Nor do I get involved in Charter bookings, dip & pack etc. Last year was a disaster and Cme and I both got fucked I sincerely hope Cme is making headway as my efforts were in vain.