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Originally posted by K Evans:
Not sure if the timeline of deposits, but below is an excerpt from Zambian Parliament minutes regarding the concession in question…

“Madam Speaker, currently, and I repeat, there have seven hunting blocks on which concessions expired, and those are the ones we are going to prioritise when the new bid document come into effect. I will read them out:
Nyampala, Chikwa, Lower Lupande, Chifunda, Mwanya and Luawata. Any other hunting block across the country is active and hunting is currently going on. Each of the hunting blocks has a concession anniversary date. As such, the concessions expire on different dates. I will give you an example of one in the areas I have just mentioned. Chanjuzi is expiring on 4th November, 2022. Once it expires, we will retender it. Obviously, given our procurement process, we do realise that we have to tender most of the expiring hunting concessions well in advance so that if we have any new entrants, they are able to have time to mobilise.”

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can you post a link to the entire thing?

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Originally posted by Saeed:
It has happened before, and in most cases, apparently the same concession holders got theirs back.

Did not happen this time, because of political bribes changing hands.

Wrong hands!

I love it the way some members here think their American government does not have corruption!

Several hundred thousands in "donations" to sit on the same table as Trump is what??

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can you post a link to the entire thing?

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Originally posted by K Evans:

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can you post a link to the entire thing?

This is one link, go to publications and peruse the options, lots of interesting stuff if you have time to sift thru it.

https://www.parliament.gov.zm/node/173

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Originally posted by MARK H. YOUNG:
Muchjinga/duPlooys have clients arriving to hunt Upper Lupande in about a week.

Mark

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Originally posted by MARK H. YOUNG:
I don't know the status of any of the other GMA's other than the first four that were awarded a while back.

Mark

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Originally posted by Hasher:
I am going to guess that several more weeks have passed with no more payments to the ripped off clients.

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Originally posted by Hasher:
Ibis shenanigans continue.

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Originally posted by larryshores:

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Originally posted by Hasher:
Ibis shenanigans continue.

True . But the Embassy has all the details now . The FBI will have them soon.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by larryshores:

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Originally posted by Hasher:
Ibis shenanigans continue.

True . But the Embassy has all the details now . The FBI will have them soon.

Great!

I love it when a crook gets his payback!

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Originally posted by Safari2:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by larryshores:

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Originally posted by Hasher:
Ibis shenanigans continue.

True . But the Embassy has all the details now . The FBI will have them soon.

Great!

I love it when a crook gets his payback!

Long way to go.

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Originally posted by Safari2:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by larryshores:

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Originally posted by Hasher:
Ibis shenanigans continue.

True . But the Embassy has all the details now . The FBI will have them soon.

Great!

I love it when a crook gets his payback!

Long way to go.

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Gotta start somewhere.

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Originally posted by larryshores:

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Originally posted by Safari2:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by larryshores:

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Originally posted by Hasher:
Ibis shenanigans continue.

True . But the Embassy has all the details now . The FBI will have them soon.

Great!

I love it when a crook gets his payback!

Long way to go.

Gotta start somewhere.

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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Gotta start somewhere.

Maybe the process should have been initiated when first suggested.

I am however of the firm opinion that someone is going to find themselves in hot water.

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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Gotta start somewhere.

Maybe the process should have been initiated when first suggested.

I am however of the firm opinion that someone is going to find themselves in hot water.

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Originally posted by Kpoynter:

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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Gotta start somewhere.

Maybe the process should have been initiated when first suggested.

I am however of the firm opinion that someone is going to find themselves in hot water.

You may be right but no normal human thinks about involving Embassy’s etc in a dispute.
Turns out to your point this may be a good suggestion
Going “nuclear” on a foreign dude in his foreign country ain’t exactly normal

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You may be right but no normal human thinks about involving Embassy’s etc in a dispute.

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Originally posted by Hasher:

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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Gotta start somewhere.

Maybe the process should have been initiated when first suggested.

I am however of the firm opinion that someone is going to find themselves in hot water.

Someone needs to teach ibi “the Chicago way”.

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Originally posted by larryshores:

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Originally posted by Hasher:

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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Gotta start somewhere.

Maybe the process should have been initiated when first suggested.

I am however of the firm opinion that someone is going to find themselves in hot water.

Someone needs to teach ibi “the Chicago way”.

While losing $80,000 is awful, it isn’t enough money to make me risk spending time in a Zambian jail.

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Originally posted by ilitshe_zim:
Does anyone know what Ibi threatened CME with? Lawsuit?? for what...defamation of character?? Would be interested to know.....

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Originally posted by larryshores:

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Originally posted by ilitshe_zim:
Does anyone know what Ibi threatened CME with? Lawsuit?? for what...defamation of character?? Would be interested to know.....

The words Ibi used were “slander and abuse.”

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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You may be right but no normal human thinks about involving Embassy’s etc in a dispute.

But its OK for "normal humans" to attack others on public forums.

Diplomatic representations abroad serve many purposes, not just established to play "cloak & dagger" politics alone as some may be inclined to believe.

All Embassies have Commercial, Cultural, Consular and Military departments which play their respective roles that are aimed at maintaining good and harmonious relations between their respective nations.

Embassies are the direct line of communication with the host government offices and taking short cuts will get you nowhere.

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Originally posted by larryshores:

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Originally posted by ilitshe_zim:
Does anyone know what Ibi threatened CME with? Lawsuit?? for what...defamation of character?? Would be interested to know.....

The words Ibi used were “slander and abuse.”

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Originally posted by Kpoynter:

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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You may be right but no normal human thinks about involving Embassy’s etc in a dispute.

But its OK for "normal humans" to attack others on public forums.

Diplomatic representations abroad serve many purposes, not just established to play "cloak & dagger" politics alone as some may be inclined to believe.

All Embassies have Commercial, Cultural, Consular and Military departments which play their respective roles that are aimed at maintaining good and harmonious relations between their respective nations.

Embassies are the direct line of communication with the host government offices and taking short cuts will get you nowhere.

Ummm… by “attacking others” are you referring to the fact that a forum member was called out for their utter hypocrisy, changing their position and story, and their explicit role in this? The reality that they knew or should have known all along (especially in light of the most recent damning evidence) that they were SELLING someone a hunt that was “unsellable” and the fact that almost all of the money was requested far after this was known and the person not notified until about 30 days before the hunt????
That “attack”?
Ummm…..yeah….ok

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Originally posted by fairgame:

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Originally posted by Kpoynter:

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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You may be right but no normal human thinks about involving Embassy’s etc in a dispute.

But its OK for "normal humans" to attack others on public forums.

Diplomatic representations abroad serve many purposes, not just established to play "cloak & dagger" politics alone as some may be inclined to believe.

All Embassies have Commercial, Cultural, Consular and Military departments which play their respective roles that are aimed at maintaining good and harmonious relations between their respective nations.

Embassies are the direct line of communication with the host government offices and taking short cuts will get you nowhere.

Ummm… by “attacking others” are you referring to the fact that a forum member was called out for their utter hypocrisy, changing their position and story, and their explicit role in this? The reality that they knew or should have known all along (especially in light of the most recent damning evidence) that they were SELLING someone a hunt that was “unsellable” and the fact that almost all of the money was requested far after this was known and the person not notified until about 30 days before the hunt????
That “attack”?
Ummm…..yeah….ok

You need to ask yourself why I would invest all my clients and resources in one concession for a full season. I have nothing to do with the Operator/Client deposit arrangements and all were repaid except CME pf which I presumed would be concluded but has not. If I had received any financial benefit from this arrangement then I would be complicit.

Good on CME following the channels that were recommended earlier but I can do little to recover his money

All my safaris booked this year in Zambia have been concluded on the same basis with numerous operators and that is how freelancing works

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Originally posted by MJines:
To your point, sort of a damned if you knew, damned if you didn't know situation if you ask me. If you knew, then you are part and parcel of the scam. If you didn't know, how can you truly be someone plugged into what is going on in Zambia and why wouldn't you have made it your business to understand what the situation was. Either way, seems ridiculous.

And as to this being how freelancing is done, that is absolutely not the case. I have booked many hunts with outfitters that did not control or operate the concession area. In every case, I booked directly with and paid the professional hunter and they secured the hunting rights in the concession area directly. I never dealt with and in most cases never knew who the concession operator was.

Good luck to those booked this year who ended up apparently booking in the same way Corey did.