quote:

Originally posted by flaco:
Yikes!

It's a tragedy.

jorge's on his way to Africa to kill animals, and his new rifle won't be here on time.

Is he gonna have to shoot some generic rifle?

Okay, it's true, it's true.

Mainly, jorge has a couple of safes full of rifles, but, well, it was his dream, his dream, to shoot these brand new custom rifles that nobody has or can afford on his dream safari to Africa.

He wants to stand in Hemmingway's shoes.

I've been avoiding this thread--I know nothing about Hein--but I am here to tell you jorge doesn't really want his Hein action for a Safari, what he wants is to be a novelist.

Most recently, we've been blessed with some rich prose about shooting his Ruger.

Delightful!

I'm sorry.

I'm not at all certain about the need to go to Africa and kill animals.

I can understand the desire.

But I am here to tell you that if you're bent on Safari, any gun will do.

I'm a fourth generation California native. Which means my ancestors crossed the Plains in '49. When my grandmother taught me to catch trout in those gin clear Sierra streams, she let me know that there was more to fishing than catching fish.

It certainly wasn't about gear.

And it wasn't about catching.

In contemporary terms, it was about process.

Sneakin' up on those trout.

In fly fishing terms, the delicacy of presentation.

Just being there, being able to identify the species around, and an appreciation of natural beauty.

In my world, a hunter will take whatever rifle comes to hand. It doesn't have to be a Griffin and Howe.

He hunts for the pure pleasure of it. With an appreciation for nature and whatever limited time he's able to spend in natural surroundings.

A trophy is nice, but..., well, important mainly for rich Americans.

I am an absolute sycophant of Duane Wiebe and his rifles, but have to think that way too many of our contributors want to make a made for TV movie out of their Safaris.

In my view, killing an animal is best kept between you and your guide and the animal.

Keep it to yourself, like religion.

If you feel the need to make a novel--or a non-fiction story of your safari--it's not about hunting, it's about you.

I love beautiful rifles, and have spent way too much time trying learn to make them.

I'd like to see more of this on our Gunsmithing forum.

I am way too tired of hearing from clients who don't want to wait for a custom rifle.

Because, as I've suggested, a real hunter will take whatever rifle comes to hand.

Because it's about hunting. Not about whichever rifle you're hunting with.

flaco

quote:

Originally posted by Customstox:
flaco, you need to change your name to flake. Let me tell you a few things about Jorge. Some time ago I remodeled a rifle he had purchased. It was a fun project but while I was working on it he was on an aircraft carrier commanding a number of airmen who were fighting terrorists. Another time I was redoing a stock of his for his model 70 and that was at Christmas and he spent it away from his family again making the world a better place. I do not know how many guns he has in his safe but I do know he has a few that my hands have touched and I am proud to be of a very small service to him, at a time when he was doing a great service to the United States. As far as I am concerned, he is as fine a person who has ever set foot on this land of ours and you are not even in a class to lick his boots.

If he did want to be a novelist, I would stand in line to buy his books.

Now go and take a few more shots of whiskey or whatever makes you a big man but do not malign Jorge. You do not have the credentials.

quote:

Originally posted by flaco:
Yikes!

It's a tragedy.

jorge's on his way to Africa to kill animals, and his new rifle won't be here on time.

Is he gonna have to shoot some generic rifle?

Okay, it's true, it's true.

Mainly, jorge has a couple of safes full of rifles, but, well, it was his dream, his dream, to shoot these brand new custom rifles that nobody has or can afford on his dream safari to Africa.

He wants to stand in Hemmingway's shoes.

I've been avoiding this thread--I know nothing about Hein--but I am here to tell you jorge doesn't really want his Hein action for a Safari, what he wants is to be a novelist.

Most recently, we've been blessed with some rich prose about shooting his Ruger.

Delightful!

I'm sorry.

I'm not at all certain about the need to go to Africa and kill animals.

I can understand the desire.

But I am here to tell you that if you're bent on Safari, any gun will do.

I'm a fourth generation California native. Which means my ancestors crossed the Plains in '49. When my grandmother taught me to catch trout in those gin clear Sierra streams, she let me know that there was more to fishing than catching fish.

It certainly wasn't about gear.

And it wasn't about catching.

In contemporary terms, it was about process.

Sneakin' up on those trout.

In fly fishing terms, the delicacy of presentation.

Just being there, being able to identify the species around, and an appreciation of natural beauty.

In my world, a hunter will take whatever rifle comes to hand. It doesn't have to be a Griffin and Howe.

He hunts for the pure pleasure of it. With an appreciation for nature and whatever limited time he's able to spend in natural surroundings.

A trophy is nice, but..., well, important mainly for rich Americans.

I am an absolute sycophant of Duane Wiebe and his rifles, but have to think that way too many of our contributors want to make a made for TV movie out of their Safaris.

In my view, killing an animal is best kept between you and your guide and the animal.

Keep it to yourself, like religion.

If you feel the need to make a novel--or a non-fiction story of your safari--it's not about hunting, it's about you.

I love beautiful rifles, and have spent way too much time trying learn to make them.

I'd like to see more of this on our Gunsmithing forum.

I am way too tired of hearing from clients who don't want to wait for a custom rifle.

Because, as I've suggested, a real hunter will take whatever rifle comes to hand.

Because it's about hunting. Not about whichever rifle you're hunting with.

flaco

quote:

flaco, you need to change your name to flake. Let me tell you a few things about Jorge. Some time ago I remodeled a rifle he had purchased. It was a fun project but while I was working on it he was on an aircraft carrier commanding a number of airmen who were fighting terrorists. Another time I was redoing a stock of his for his model 70 and that was at Christmas and he spent it away from his family again making the world a better place. I do not know how many guns he has in his safe but I do know he has a few that my hands have touched and I am proud to be of a very small service to him, at a time when he was doing a great service to the United States. As far as I am concerned, he is as fine a person who has ever set foot on this land of ours and you are not even in a class to lick his boots.

If he did want to be a novelist, I would stand in line to buy his books.

Now go and take a few more shots of whiskey or whatever makes you a big man but do not malign Jorge. You do not have the credentials.

quote:

Originally posted by Bryan Chick:
I hope no one misinterprets this 'cause I too am a hein victim; however, if anyone missed the reference to the large watch in jorge's post I'll tell you what it means. the best way to identify the naval avaitors in the locker room is to look for the guy with the biggest watch and the smallest "tool". Ha

quote:

Originally posted by 22WRF:
I spent three years aboard USS INDEPENDENCE CV62, an aircraft carrier, and I can assure you that the pilots do have big egos.

However, they deserve them for all of the incredible danger they put theirselves into.

If you have ever personally seen a pilot land a small jet on an aircraft carrier in the middle of a bad storm when the boat is bobbing around in high seas, you would be amazed!

quote:

Originally posted by flaco:
Yikes!

It's a tragedy.

jorge's on his way to Africa to kill animals, and his new rifle won't be here on time.

Is he gonna have to shoot some generic rifle?

Okay, it's true, it's true.

Mainly, jorge has a couple of safes full of rifles, but, well, it was his dream, his dream, to shoot these brand new custom rifles that nobody has or can afford on his dream safari to Africa.

He wants to stand in Hemmingway's shoes.

I've been avoiding this thread--I know nothing about Hein--but I am here to tell you jorge doesn't really want his Hein action for a Safari, what he wants is to be a novelist.

Most recently, we've been blessed with some rich prose about shooting his Ruger.

Delightful!

I'm sorry.

I'm not at all certain about the need to go to Africa and kill animals.

I can understand the desire.

But I am here to tell you that if you're bent on Safari, any gun will do.

I'm a fourth generation California native. Which means my ancestors crossed the Plains in '49. When my grandmother taught me to catch trout in those gin clear Sierra streams, she let me know that there was more to fishing than catching fish.

It certainly wasn't about gear.

And it wasn't about catching.

In contemporary terms, it was about process.

Sneakin' up on those trout.

In fly fishing terms, the delicacy of presentation.

Just being there, being able to identify the species around, and an appreciation of natural beauty.

In my world, a hunter will take whatever rifle comes to hand. It doesn't have to be a Griffin and Howe.

He hunts for the pure pleasure of it. With an appreciation for nature and whatever limited time he's able to spend in natural surroundings.

A trophy is nice, but..., well, important mainly for rich Americans.

I am an absolute sycophant of Duane Wiebe and his rifles, but have to think that way too many of our contributors want to make a made for TV movie out of their Safaris.

In my view, killing an animal is best kept between you and your guide and the animal.

Keep it to yourself, like religion.

If you feel the need to make a novel--or a non-fiction story of your safari--it's not about hunting, it's about you.

I love beautiful rifles, and have spent way too much time trying learn to make them.

I'd like to see more of this on our Gunsmithing forum.

I am way too tired of hearing from clients who don't want to wait for a custom rifle.

Because, as I've suggested, a real hunter will take whatever rifle comes to hand.

Because it's about hunting. Not about whichever rifle you're hunting with.

flaco

quote:

Originally posted by jorge:
Monday's the deadline for response. Thanks, Chic! jorge

quote:

Originally posted by montea6b:
I guess I just don't get it.

Sorry, didn't mean to drag this out again, but I was just too flabbergasted to not say anything.

quote:

Originally posted by jorge:
I am confident that we'll prevail in the end. Hopefully I'll have some news to report next week. jorge

quote:

Originally posted by Fjold:

quote:

Originally posted by jorge:
I am confident that we'll prevail in the end. Hopefully I'll have some news to report next week. jorge

Jorge, which court's jurisdiction did you file in?

quote:

Originally posted by jorge:

quote:

Originally posted by Fjold:

quote:

Originally posted by jorge:
I am confident that we'll prevail in the end. Hopefully I'll have some news to report next week. jorge

Jorge, which court's jurisdiction did you file in?

Near Moses Lake WA? Maybe Howard can chime in. jorge

quote:

Originally posted by Customstox:
montea6b,
Flaco said "49" but he didnt say WHICH 49. His ancestors probably came across the plains in a Greyhound bus. He also said he was the 4th generation and that does not wash with a difference of almost 160 years. Sounds like more bs along with the trout stories. I did get a vision of the family on the front porch of Deliverance when reading his diatribe.

quote:

Originally posted by Howard:
Hein has responded to our suit through his attorney.

He has asked us to agree to a deadline and to allow him to complete our projects.

Jorge and I are discussing our options. We have no desire to kick a person while down but our first and obvious question is: Why should we believe this deadline will be met? As you all know Hein has promised and then not met several deadlines, cut off all communications and rudely told us he no longer wished to communicate with us.

There is also the issue of the excitement and anticipation for our new custom projects has soured and quite frankly its past saving. We have both mentally given up on these specific projects and have no desire to own anything built by Hein.

PS I believe I speak for Jorge here. He will chime in with his thoughts I am sure.

quote:

Originally posted by jorge:
Mike: I suggest you "strike while the iron's hot" jorge

quote:

Hein waits until the mid-night hour to respond and then his chicken-shit response comes through his attorney. I don’t know about you, but this really pisses me off.

I’ve been watching this thread with a lot of interest, as Hein also owes me $2000. I guess I’m also going to have to sue Hein too to get any correspondence out of him. What a f_cked up way to run a business.