Need to work on it some more.The new front sight works great and-that is good news.Good recoil.The rifle is a charm!
[URL= ]50yds[/URL]
I had a very good rest and sight picture.

Are you attributing the crossing of R1 and L1 to shooter error?

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Originally posted by Frostbit:
Are you attributing the crossing of R1 and L1 to shooter error?

I corrected the posted picture.Stop acting like a woman.

Hello George,

Sorry but what loads were you shooting? What bullets were you using? What was the distance at which you were shooting?

The sights seemed to pretty much sort out your problem.

What about your elephant hunt coming up. Who, what, why, where, when and how? Anyone going with you?

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Originally posted by shootaway:

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Originally posted by Frostbit:
Are you attributing the crossing of R1 and L1 to shooter error?

I corrected the posted picture.Stop acting like a woman.

Glad you corrected it. So it was "shooter error" only in marking them. Are you concerned that R2 is left of L2? Or was that shooter error?

As far as "acting like a woman". I'm married to one I would be proud to act like anytime.

Hi GOB,
I was using the recommended load which is 110gr of IMR 4831.I was using Woodleigh 570gr softs.
I am booked for somewhere around March 2015 with CMS safaris.No one going with me.

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Originally posted by Frostbit:

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Originally posted by shootaway:

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Originally posted by Frostbit:
Are you attributing the crossing of R1 and L1 to shooter error?

I corrected the posted picture.Stop acting like a woman.

Glad you corrected it. So it was "shooter error" only in marking them. Are you concerned that R2 is left of L2? Or was that shooter error.

As far as "acting like a woman". I'm married to one I would be proud to act like anytime.

]50yds[/URL]

It may be my reloads or the fouling or the molly.I will be out there again soon and try again.No,there was no shooter error in this-easy shooting.

5" group @50 with some crossover...Well that SUCKS..

Thanks,

I have seen a lot of "critics" not do nearly as well.

Obviously you must do what is best but if you can try North Fork bullets you may be very pleased with the results.

Go Well

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Originally posted by shootaway:

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Originally posted by Frostbit:

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Originally posted by shootaway:

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Originally posted by Frostbit:
Are you attributing the crossing of R1 and L1 to shooter error?

I corrected the posted picture.Stop acting like a woman.

Glad you corrected it. So it was "shooter error" only in marking them. Are you concerned that R2 is left of L2? Or was that shooter error.

As far as "acting like a woman". I'm married to one I would be proud to act like anytime.

]50yds[/URL]

It may be my reloads or the fouling or the molly.I will be out there again soon and try again.No,there was no shooter error in this-easy shooting.

George,

Try a standing rest instead of bench. Move into 25 yards and shoot 6 rounds (three per barrel) hold the same point of aim.

Butch's guns are usually very well regulated. I suspect if you do that you will have two nice separate groups of three for the right and the left barrel.

Either way, as it was pointed out, that's not a bad group for 50 yards. Shooting from a bench with a double though, can effect the result.

who cares,its from sears,sorry searcy

Going back to Shoot-your-cow's first announcement about ordering a DR, I think I was the very first to predict there would be performance issues with this rifle, not because of the builder, quite the contrary, but because of the shooter and his unwillingness to properly learn about doubles and their differences from single barreled weapons.

Sure as shit, Shoot-your-cow screwed the pooch right off the bat by jacking with the sights. Who's surprised? Not I.

I called dibbs on this rifle long before Butch even began building it, based on it not living up to the -cow's unrealistic expectations. So -cow, when you tire of jacking with the sights, just box it up and send it to Texas, but please do so before jacking with it further. If it doesn't shoot for you this time, it ain't the rifle boy! And I'm 100% positive it wasn't the rifle the first time either. Just box it up and send it this way ... SOON! Before it becomes a basket case ... the rifle that is; too late for the shooter in that regard!

Gee, Todd, if Shootacow screws with it any more, it will look like a Blazer.
Cal

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Originally posted by cal pappas:
Gee, Todd, if Shootacow screws with it any more, it will look like a Blazer .
Cal

Careful!! You might summon the dark one…



DARTH BEIBS

Ha,

Darth Biebs! Dang funny!

By my measure George the distance between the right and left barrel puts you at 2+" of taint when you measure between the holes. There is no need for that moly treatment at the speeds you are running.

I am confident that you will get it all sorted out in time.

Hey, is the bluing fading from the monoblock on your rifle already? Maybe you are stroking it too much every night.

Give that bluing a rest and have a Molson!

Matt

I decided to clean the bores and check on the fouling.I tried wipe-out for the first time and it is full of shit.I could not remove more copper than any other solvent.I then took matters into my own hands and decided to remove the copper.Both barrels were clogged with copper and it took quite a bit of JB to remove it.I believe it was the accuracy robbing copper that caused the shots to cross.I think that the bulge in my rds caused the fouling.Next time I am going to shoot my reloads as the bullets fit in the neck nicely without the bulge.It could not have been the molly responsible for the settling issues I had a while ago but the oil that was in the barrels.
[URL= ]wipe-out[/URL]
[URL= ]after the wipe-out and cleaning one side with JB[/URL]
[URL= ]what a mess[/URL]
[URL= ]after my cleaning[/URL]

And here we go, a slow motion train wreck in the making!!

Just like a train wreck.....

haha.....we posted at the same time....

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Originally posted by McKay:
haha.....we posted at the same time....

It's pretty amazing that everybody but shootacow can see this one coming.

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Originally posted by surestrike:

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Originally posted by McKay:
haha.....we posted at the same time....

It's pretty amazing that everybody but shootacow can see this one coming.

I said it was like watching a car wreck clear back on page 1 of this thread.

George what do you mead by the following;

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I think that the bulge in my rds caused the fouling

just curious

Looks more like a crime scene, to me. I wonder how many other rifles he has buried in the backyard? WD-40 and pliers......WTF?

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Originally posted by npd345:
George what do you mead by the following;

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I think that the bulge in my rds caused the fouling

just curious

He just pulled that out of his shooting helmet, as usual.

And those are nock setting pliers that you use to squeeze the little brass nock onto a bow string. About the same level of professional tool for a DR as the vise grips for the tap.

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Originally posted by CowboyCS:

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Originally posted by surestrike:

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Originally posted by McKay:
haha.....we posted at the same time....

It's pretty amazing that everybody but shootacow can see this one coming.

I said it was like watching a car wreck clear back on page 1 of this thread.

And I am sure we have all grossly underestimated the disaster that is yet to come.

I clean my doubles once every two or three years . . . whether they need it or not . . . must be a miracle from on high that my barrels do not cross.

Like someone posted earlier, I am actually starting to feel sorry for an inanimate object if that is even possible.

It looks like it worked.It was foggy and raining and the sight picture was not as good as yesterday.I knew I had the best rifle.
[URL= ]50yds[/URL]

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Originally posted by MJines:
I clean my doubles once every two or three years . . . whether they need it or not . . . must be a miracle from on high that my barrels do not cross.

Like someone posted earlier, I am actually starting to feel sorry for an inanimate object if that is even possible.

There is no way in the world that a rifle-even a bolt rifle will not shoot very large groups at 50yds if there is heavy copper in the bore.It can spread groups up to 6 or 7 inches and the possibilty of them not crossing is impossible.Have you ever shot a double at 50yds?

Great job. Hard to beat to improve on that.

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Originally posted by RIP:

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Originally posted by npd345:
George what do you mead by the following;

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I think that the bulge in my rds caused the fouling

just curious

He just pulled that out of his shooting helmet, as usual.

Shoot away is a genius and has made a new product. The "Shootaway Shooting Helmet". This should sell well. It might even get mandated like riding a motorcycle helmet in the nanny states. It could have compartments for replacement sights and WD40 if you can't shoot straight.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
It looks like it worked.It was foggy and raining and the sight picture was not as good as yesterday.I knew I had the best rifle.
[URL= ]50yds[/URL]

Looks good. Quit while you're ahead.

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Originally posted by npd345:
George what do you mead by the following;

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I think that the bulge in my rds caused the fouling

just curious

He's using bore brushes to wrap patches around, and finding "heavy copper fouling" after like 8 rounds per barrel. What are you really expecting?

That right one is a mean barrel!

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Originally posted by npd345:
George what do you mead by the following;

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I think that the bulge in my rds caused the fouling

just curious

npd345,
When reloading you dont always get the best results or the most concentric loads for a number of reasons.What you are after is the handload that will fit your rifle best.Having reloaded for a few big bore rifles with my set-up,I would get the best reloads with new,unfired cases.It seems that with the RCBS dies I am using for my 500NE that the best handloads are achieved with fired cases for the cases I have available.
The new cases would cause the necks to bulge where the bullet is seated,IMO driving the bullet into the lands.This issue is solved using my once fired cases-the bullet seats perfectly in them and is aligned closer towards the center of the bore-reducing fouling and being accurate.

must be because you're loading a standard caliber, with a metric press.

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Originally posted by AK_Stick:
must be because you're loading a standard caliber, with a metric press.

I have a Rockchucker-its not metric.

Glad we got that cleared up.