Winchester M70 9.3 B&M Accurate Innovations Turkish Stock.

I hope MD doesn't scratch that beautiful stock!

Gorgeous!
Beautiful AND great grain flow. Not that the AI bedding needs the added strength too much.
Just needs a barrel band

Man, that sling from Henry really goes well with and compliments that beautiful stick of wood!

A bit tough getting used to the Nikon, however!

It needs a good Trijicon--



I am not that impressed with the Two tone sling--all black or all brown for me

quote:

Originally posted by LionHunter:
Man, that sling from Henry really goes well with and compliments that beautiful stick of wood!

A bit tough getting used to the Nikon, however!

Mike

I like that sling, on that rifle, I think it matches up pretty good with the wood. And Cross, normally I like the black with black lace, or dark brown with the black lace, but I kinda like this one, on this rifle. All a matter of individual taste on that one I think.

Now, yesterday, for some reason I could not get this rifle to shoot with the Raptors? Hell, same rifle I used in April with such good success, 9.3 Raptors were one hole deals? So I thought the damned stock changed something--Or that Nikon Scope had busted? I must have shot 50 rounds of Raptors checking different things. I brought the rifle in, tore it apart, removed scope, checked bases, I even cleaned the damned thing. Checked the stock, could not see an issue. Put a new scope on went back out, same story, Raptors going all over the place????? Well, having to test these new 3 blade 9.3 NonCons, I had some 255s loaded up, only 5. So I shot them, and they all 5 went in a hole at 50! Hmmmmm???? I don't have a clue--Just makes no sense to me at all? OK, so go back in load up several 255s now, back to the range and again, all the 255s go in a hole 1 inch high, dead center, everything holding tight. Load some 280s, they are 1/2 inch lower, dead center, all in a hole. For the life of me, I can't figure why they Raptors have stopped shooting in that rifle?

Regardless, I loaded up 255 NonCons and a few 280 Solids--they will be going on this trip in this rifle. We will find out how the 3 blades do on buffalo shoulders in the smaller caliber NonCons.

So, speaking of Nikons--I still was not 100% sure of that 2X8 Nikon. So I put it on my light weight, 6.5 lb 416 B&M. Did a quick bore sight, and shot 5 rounds of 300 Raptors in one hole, dead center, 2 inches high, never turned a knob. After the group, I lowered it an inch and just now came off the range. Nothing wrong with that Nikon! So far, have broken no Nikons. Some sort of record now!

Cross, will be happy to know, my 1X4 Trijicon is on the 475 B&M Super Short and it's going to Australia. The 475 B&M and the 50 B&M Super Short are fitted with 1X4 Nikons, and the 9.3 B&M fitted with the 2X8 Nikon you see in the above photos. So far, Nikons and Trijicons, no breaks or failures.

Michael

Maybe the Raptors want a new strap
Or a synthetic stock
What tips or not were you using?

quote:

Originally posted by boom stick:
Maybe the Raptors want a new strap
Or a synthetic stock
What tips or not were you using?

Boomy

New Strap, Ultimate stock, I don't know what those Raptors want, but don't have the time to work the problem now. Using the new tips, sames ones I used in April? I shot with and without tips, and made no difference.

I am tied up now working on a 458 Lott for a fellow. Almost ready to send it out for him, but damned things over rides the cartridge left side second down 1 out of every 10 times? Bugs! G-Damned bugs! Think I have it however, little more spring tension seems to have pushed the ass end up some. Headed to the range, packing too, got to get my mess together!

M

Michael,

That's a gorgeous stock; the Nikon scope and two color sling add character to a darn elegent looking rifle...

Good to hear the tooth has been taken care of; have a safe and prosperous hunt!

Doc M,
I like ugly rifles, lots of them, as long as they are accurate and functional.

But have a safe and successful safari anyway.

quote:

I like the black with black lace,

we won't tell

quote:

Doc M,
I like ugly rifles, lots of them, as long as they are accurate and functional.

I have some ugly rifles too! I just keep them hidden! LOL........

Thanks buddy! Safari? More of a.........Well, lot's of shooting how about that! HEH.....

Thanks Jim, and all my buds here!



Cross

quote:

I like the black with black lace,

shocker

we won't tell

OK OK, busted. I do like the Black with black lace, and it looks good on Momma too! Yeah, when no one was looking maybe I did.................., well, never mind that now. I have something important to note here.

Now we see how easy by the above content that one can take things out of context. Just take a look at what my boy Cross has to say, and give this some thought!

quote:

all black or all brown for me

Now that could mean all sorts of things? Use your imagination!

How about this one from RIP

quote:

I like ugly, lots of them

Now can you imagine what could be taken out of context over on the terminal thread with the recent activities and comments on the RN Cap for NonCons?

Just for example this one from Cappy over on terminals

quote:

Ass Caps would work just fine!

I don't even want to imagine!!!!!!

M - good that you got that tooth fixed before leaving... I own you a favor but guess that going around Denmark is not exactly a shortcut to Australia...
Have a safe trip - and some good hunting / shooting... Wish I were joining you...

quote:

Originally posted by michael458:
Now can you imagine what could be taken out of context over on the terminal thread with the recent activities and comments on the RN Cap for NonCons?

Just for example this one from Cappy over on terminals

quote:

Ass Caps would work just fine!

I don't even want to imagine!!!!!!

Heck Boomy and RIP started it! I just couldn't help myself!!!!

Thanks Ulrik, yeah, next time I pass through Denmark, I will do my best to have some sort of toothache!

HEH HEH...........

I don't think there is a shortcut to Australia at all! Not looking forward to that one, makes going to South Africa look real easy!

Cappy, RIP, Boomy, and Cross-- Trouble! Problem Children at it's best, or worst, whichever way you chose to look at it! LOL.............

Well, rifles packed, ammo loaded, packed, belts, slings, cartridge slides, sat phone, cameras, paperwork, everything except the kitchen sink is packed and ready to go. Oh, wait, I still don't have any clothing packed? Hmmmmmmm, lets see, this black lacey.......... NO NO NO, wrong trip! HEH......

Got some news from Henry last night--He got two embossing plates done for the B&M leather goods! They did a great job as far as I am concerned and this will look great on the slings, belts, cartridge slides and anything else we can think of in leather!

I am very pleased with this.









Michael

Man that brand looks great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

quote:

Originally posted by srose:
Man that brand looks great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

+1 Fantastic!!!


And...uh...um... Just leave the black- lacey stuff to Mama!

Michael-

Henry upholds his dedication to quality with that branding plate! Great looking and will compliment the B&M cartridge slides Henry makes using my design. We will have the B&M slides in use by 5 hunters in 3 countries by the end of August.

For any other B&M shooters, I have only a couple of slides remaining available, in Elephant or Cape Buffalo. PM me if you're interested.

Leather stamping looks great!
Shot nyala no problem with 500 MDM. The bushbuck however was a bit of a problem. We were coming back to camp with just about 20 minutes of light left on last evening. A 14" Limpopo bushbuck jumps out of the bush. We are in an open topped vehicle. So I decide it is right now as he is quickly moving away. I have to twist my torso completely sideways to make the shot. Anyway, I am quite sure I now need a chiropractor. I suppose I will never learn!

quote:

Originally posted by LionHunter:
Michael-

Henry upholds his dedication to quality with that branding plate! Great looking and will compliment the B&M cartridge slides Henry makes using my design. We will have the B&M slides in use by 5 hunters in 3 countries by the end of August.

For any other B&M shooters, I have only a couple of slides remaining available, in Elephant or Cape Buffalo. PM me if you're interested.

Mike

Absolutely, Henry is FIRST CLASS! And, YOUR Cartridge Slide design is the best I have ever seen. I have my carry on packed with 3 of the 10 round, and 3 of the 5 round, they will be used by me and the boys this coming week. I have all ideas, they will see some serious use too! So that is 3 shooters on my side, Brent, Cross, yourself and Carl. You did very good snooping Henry out for us, and a great job on the cartridge slides. A+ all the way.

Brent, I spent 18 days in 2011 with a bad issue in my back and down my leg. I got relief in Pretoria with a chiropractor named Kobus something or other. Young chap, and absolutely the best I have ever been to, cured me in two visits. I can get to his office, but damned if I can tell you how to. In the Lynnwood area, Church Street I think. HEH HEH.......... You will want the "Dry Needle" treatment!

Michael

Michael,

Have a safe trip !

And I know you will have a great time testing (hunting).

Coyote

We did have a great trip, and oh my, we learned a hell of a lot as well!

For those of you with 50 B&M Super Shorts---It is now 100% confirmed, the 50 B&M Super Short has graduated to a real honest to god Buffalo Rifle! And I don't mean just adequate either, I mean stomp a buffalos ass in the dirt!

475 B&M has also achieved this status as well!

These Australian buffalo are NOT PUSHOVERS either, that some have led some to believe. They are BIGGER than ANY CAPE BUFFALO ever heard of, especially a big prime bull like both my boys took! In addition to these two bulls, the two Super Shorts busted the hell out of many big cow buffalo as well, and we are talking SLAMMING them to the dirt on the spot!

Between myself, Paul Truccolo and Sam we all concur that from observations we have seen in our buffalo shooting careers that the Super Shorts did anything a 458 Win or 458 Lott can do, and in many cases far better!

My boys did some INCREDIBLE shooting too--I am an EXTREMELY PROUD DAD! They shot, and acted like SEASONED PROs, and by damn, they are seasoned Pros now!

My Son Mark David and his bull, and the 475 B&M Super Short. This bull was taking with a 320 gr BBW#13 NonCon HP through the shoulders, recovered on the FAR side shoulder. Followup shot of the 350 BBW#13 Solid, quartering rear shot, traveled 44 inches and exited that same far shoulder. It was over at that point, but Mark David was so fast that he put another 350 BBW#13 Solid dead up the from the rear--All Three Shots Dead Perfect Spot On! Terminal Performance, Incredible to say the least, but will talk more about that on Terminals later.





Mark David also shot a fine boar hog. This boar was hiding behind some trees, in deep shadows. Mark Davids first shot busted the center out of one of those trees, 320 BBW#13 NonCon, I think 2300 fps, one of the most incredible followup shots I have seen, up the rear of the boar, and in a few yards it was history at that point. Marks first shot through the tree hit the boar low mid section, cutting along the belly, effectively gutting him.






Matthew Daniel shot an absolutely HUGE BODY big bull. This thing was a beast, every bit 20%-25% bigger than any cape buffalo that ever lived on the planet. The photos of these just do not tell you just how big these things are, and how tough as well. I had Matthew use the 375 gr North Fork CPS, and 375 gr North Fork NEW DESIGN FPS Solids on this big beast. Matt got a bit confused, and with this buffalo it was a fluid situation, Matt had two 375 gr North Fork CPS (Expanding Cup Points) up front, and followed by one solid. The two 375 Gr North Fork CPS were recovered on the FAR SIDE Shoulder, and the big buff reacted as if you had busted him with something really bad. The two bullets were 2 inches apart, far side! INCREDIBLE PERFORMANCE. The 375 North Fork New Nose Profile Solid Exited after 40+ inches of dead straight penetration!

Matt and Paul Truccolo!







Matt also shot a fine boar hog, and several buffalo cows with his 50 B&M Super Short--They might be short, but they damn sure don't come up short in performance! Hammers! Absolute Hammers!

Michael

Sam,
Congratulations on an extremely nice buff!

Michael,
You indeed can be a very proud dad! Well done Mark David and Matthew Daniel!!

Jim

I had the boys in a couple of refresher courses before leaving and they handled the rifles and shooting very well here on the range. I was not very concerned about Matt, he is a dandy shooter. Mark David had a few problems back in 2008 getting a bit nervous, buck fever, or something along those lines, and I was a little worried with him, even though he shot well here. Well, Mark was only 15 or so in 2008, and his shooting has matured and become seasoned. He had zero issues, and in fact did some totally incredible shooting.

I had let Mark David go with Paul on their own after his bull, while Dad stayed out of the way. They were out of sight and Dad is pacing a trench in the Australian ground! When the shooting started I began to sweat, Dad did not know what was going on! Finally Paul walked out of the bush 250 yards or more away, waving his hand, and we then went to the scene! On arrival, Mark David's shooting had been PERFECT, 1st shot, 2cd and 3rd followups, just like he had been taught, and shot placement absolutely spot on--He did not stop shooting until his problem was solved, and in the dirt! Oh Yes, I was Extremely Proud!

Michael

Big Bore Super shorts BBSS did what I thought. Take out buff without hiccup. I assume the 458 SS would do the same. Congrats to you and the chips off your block. The tree pic... Was that a terminal deflection test on live buff?
Maybe next time you can try the Texas heart shot with a solid

Those two boys(men) of Michael's are well seasoned now. I don't think I have ever seen two first time dangerous game hunters so calm and tuned in. They both shot extremely well and Mark David was spot on with follow-ups even if not needed. He is one fast bolt gun shooter. His follow up shots on running away animals cut the center of the tail bone. I saw this 2 if not three times. Neither of the guys give a buffalo a chance to die, they fill them full of brass as they are falling.

Sam

quote:

Originally posted by srose:
Those two boys(men) of Michael's are well seasoned now. I don't think I have ever seen two first time dangerous game hunters so calm and tuned in. They both shot extremely well and Mark David was spot on with follow-ups even if not needed. He is one fast bolt gun shooter. His follow up shots on running away animals cut the center of the tail bone. I saw this 2 if not three times. Neither of the guys give a buffalo a chance to die, they fill them full of brass as they are falling.

Sam

Just as the proud Dad taught them to do!

quote:

Originally posted by boom stick:
Big Bore Super shorts BBSS did what I thought. Take out buff without hiccup. I assume the 458 SS would do the same. Congrats to you and the chips off your block. The tree pic... Was that a terminal deflection test on live buff?
Maybe next time you can try the Texas heart shot with a solid

Boomy

It was the Pig!

That pig was in some heavy shadows the other side of that set of trees. He thought he was hidden, and was to an extent. It was very hard to see what was what in the shadows and the pig being black as smut to boot! The 320 BBW#13 NonCon from the 475 Super Short busted through the tree, and zippered the belly of the pig. He took off like a bat from hell, Mark David made an incredible follow up shot up the rear end. I believe another 320 BBW#13 NonCon, pig went about 50 yards or so, down, Mark finished what he started.


To say I am proud of both of them is an understatement!

Michael

Has anyone seen the article by Jon Sundra in magazine called Rifle FirePower on the B&Ms????

I need to see if I can get a copy, it's supposed to be out now?

Michael

I've seen it. Mine came last week.

Ugly stocks in that article.

Otherwise, OK.

quote:

Originally posted by michael458:
Has anyone seen the article by Jon Sundra in magazine called Rifle FirePower on the B&Ms????

I need to see if I can get a copy, it's supposed to be out now?

Michael

I have the article, just not the magazine. I will try and pick a few up by the weekend anyway.

I also now have the article on the B&M website, pdf format if anyone wants it.


Momma is working on the embroidery logo for the shirts now. You see, with the round patches--should have been oval, but was in a hurry, so round squeezed the buffalo. This is what the buffalo looks like not squeezed and something similar to this will be going on the shirts. She is not finished with it yet, but I got a sample anyway---

Awesome, I am running around naked waiting for my shirt, the neighbors are hoping it happens soon

quote:

Originally posted by michael458:
Momma is working on the embroidery logo for the shirts now. You see, with the round patches--should have been oval, but was in a hurry, so round squeezed the buffalo. This is what the buffalo looks like not squeezed and something similar to this will be going on the shirts. She is not finished with it yet, but I got a sample anyway---

Very Very Nice!

Going through some of the photos this morning and found a good one of Mercedes practicing her PH skills whilst sneaking up on herd of buffalo!





Then in the aftermath, I caught Uncle Sam doing his best to corrupt my Daughter!!!!!!





Can you believe that? I nearly had what is called a "Hissy Fit" here in the south! I snatched that two barreled monstrosity from her hands, give them a quick washing to get the stink of it off, and put a real, and Proper rifle in her hands!

New campaign for Mercedes to get her own 458 SS--

vote- Mercedes 458SS -2012

quote:

Originally posted by Cross L:
New campaign for Mercedes to get her own 458 SS--

vote- Mercedes 458SS -2012

Yes, the young lady should not be short-changed. But with a pink stock!

That photo should sell a few smoke poles! Send a copy to SSK for their next brochure.

I vote that Mercedes gets a 9,3 Super Short with a pink Cammo stock. 210 grain Raptors @ 2,500 FPS

quote:

Originally posted by Esskay:

quote:

Originally posted by Cross L:
New campaign for Mercedes to get her own 458 SS--

vote- Mercedes 458SS -2012

Yes, the young lady should not be short-changed. But with a pink stock!

Definately a pink camo stock with SS metalwork!