quote:

Originally posted by LionHunter:
OK, so I got some J-B Weld, both the regular and the KwikWeld. I've never worked with these before but I leave for Ele/Buff in 3.5 weeks, so need to fix this myself.

What tips/pointers/advice from the knowledgeable?

The pics from Coyote wackier look like a job well done and I'm hoping for a similar result, so any advice is appreciated. TIA

The pics from coyote wacker showed parts before the job.

Has he shown a pic of the job after the JB Weld was applied?

Pics of the "done job" above are mine.

Sorry RIP, credit to you where credit is due. I was in a hurry to get my post up. Great pics. I'm gonna get started in a bit. Any tips?

Smooth-side-down of black vinyl electrician's tape is used to smooth and flatten the surface of the JB Weld blob,
covering the small piece of flat steel.
Then another piece of tape, sticky side down holds it all in place as it hardens.
Similar to using the vinyl tape on a barrel with release agent when glass bedding a barrel channel.

...What I did to fix the problem on my M70 Winchester 500 Ripper:









The piece of flat steel I cut pieces from to bury under epoxy on the floorplate, and left showing on the underside of the follower:



This allows you to disassemble the parts if your spring ever breaks and needs replacement.
Mainly: Recoil stops to prevent any movement of the spring relative to the floorplate and follower.

... From my cold, dead hands,
... or when I go blind,
... but I will keep the shotguns if just blind.

When those shirts and patches going to be ready?

RIP

Excellent photos of the fix most can do at Home! However, there are some that cannot do that and some that don't visit AR, so for the B&Ms we have Brian now sorting that out before they leave.

I was asked the other day from one of the guys why Winchester does not sort that out before it leaves Winchester? Short answer, we are converting from rat guns to Big Bores. Rat guns don't have that issue, they have no recoil to move the spring, Winchester has no need to sort it out on those sorts of rifles. I just took a look at some of my factory Winchester M70s in 416 Remington and 458 Lott, and Win Mag. They have a bit of a different floor plate, with a deeper recess in the front to keep the spring from jumping. While the spring is loose, I could not push it over the recess by force. So that would be Winchesters answer for the factory big bores. The B&Ms are built from WSM and WSSM actions, shallow recess in the front, not enough to keep the spring from jumping. And the long RUM action is the same, shallow recess.

Michael

quote:

Originally posted by brent ebeling:
When those shirts and patches going to be ready?

I have the first prototype red/Yellow patches now. They tried to do the gradient, but it just didn't work so well, and the yellow is not dark enough, so I really don't care for them. The gray/black patches should be in any day now, and I think they are going to be ok, they did not attempt to do the gradient on those, so they look a bit better I think. I will take a pic of the red/yellow this morning to show you.

The shirts, I have not got them to the embroider guy here yet. I was still waiting on a couple of different shirts, and now leaving in a couple of weeks there is no way to get any done before I leave for Australia. So shirts will have to wait until I get back from that trip. I may try and get it started before I leave however.


Soon as I get some patches, if you guys want some will get some out.

Naturally anyone with B&M rifles are already on the list, soon as I get both in.

M

quote:

Originally posted by michael458:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by brent ebeling:
When those shirts and patches going to be ready?

This is the red/yellow patch. You see they tried to do the gradient on the edge, and that just did not work so well. I want a darker yellow for the middle as well.





Digital Logo

Yeah I agree, the yellow in that patch is a little to bright. It will be hard to match the blend between yellow and orange with fabric. Hopefully they can use a finer thread to blend it better. Still a good looking logo.

Looks great as is.
That is a real attention grabber.
Maybe something more drab for camouflage gear.
... From my cold, dead hands,
... or when I go blind,
... but I will keep the shotguns if just blind.

Patch Front! I went to work with the guys yesterday, removed the reddish gradient, and much darker yellow for the center. Digital looks good, so the new patches are in the works, hopefully have them by next week. Gray/Black patches are to arrive today?? Maybe?

Embroidery direct to shirts is probably going to wait until I return from Oz.

Henry has leather now for B&M slings and cartridge slides. They are in the works, but I did not put him in a rush for those. The embossing plate for the B&M stamp is being done so it will be on the slings, and back of the cartridge slides.

Neat stuff in the works!

M

I have a couple of things to ponder today.

In the last week or two, Lionhunter has been in a mess working with a Red Dot on his 458 B&M. Seems to break the base, mounts or something, will let him explain if he wants to. Another buddy of mine here, David, has a 458 B&M, and he put some sort of new 30mm Leupold scope on, with QRW Rings--But NOT QRW Bases! I think he had Weaver bases. Well David ran into an interesting issue with his. Seems the base slots on the bases were wider than the QRW male part. Allows movement during recoil. He sent me a photo of his QRWs and what happens when there is too much movement, and things don't fit the slot proper.



Not good. I have never seen this happen before, but I have always used QRW Leupold Bases-- UNTIL JUST NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Daryl in Australia had me get some Burris cross slot bases for him some time ago. I got a few sets for myself just to take a look at. Well, when I put the latest 475 B&M together, I used a set of these Burris bases. I use QRW rings exclusively on everything as we know. Almost all the work done with the 475 has been close range work at 25 yds. Doing load data, Pressure Traces, and some terminals. Very little 50 yard work until the last couple of weeks.

I am getting the rifle ready to go to Australia, so I have been doing POI with several bullets, sighting in, tuning in, that sort of thing, all at 50 yds. I kept noticing some sort of small issue with POI. It kept changing just ever so slightly it seemed. It was hard to pin point because I am working with 5-6 different bullets. This week I made the 420 BBW#13 NonCon the Benchmark bullet that all the rest had to have close POI to. I had it sighted in dead on the spot, 1 inch high, a couple of times??? POI would change 1/2 to 3/4 inch from time to time.

Finally yesterday I told myself, SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT!!!!!!! I did not know what however, and my first thought was maybe I busted one of the Nikon Scopes finally! So I brought the rifle in, took it all to pieces, removed scope, stock, bolt everything. Well the damned thing had NEVER BEEN CLEANED of course, so on the off chance I decided to scrub it down--Yes, believe it or not, I did!

Then I noticed the bases? Wait a minute--Light Bulb Going Off!!!!! I quickly compared the slot width with a set of QRW Bases---and the Burris slot was TWICE as wide as the Leupold Slot!

NO WONDER POI was changing slightly--there was a lot of room to move around in that slot during recoil!!!

I removed the Burris bases, replaced with a set of Leupold Bases---PROBLEM SOLVED. I ran 40-50 rounds of 475 B&M afterwards--POI Holding tight-Nikon not broken, everything happy and NO CHANGE OF POI.

It's the little things! Always hard to sort out!

Michael

You have to have both of the recoil shoulders pushed forward and in contact with the front face of the cross slot,
then locked in place with both rings fully bearing against the bases.
Otherwise one ring may take all the recoil and the other is just a free-riding Obama voter.
Proper scope installation.

RIP

In this case, and in my case, using other than Leupold QRW Bases---the slots were too large, too wide, causing a movement in POI for me. In the case of David, and the bent QRW thingys--Whatever you call those things---it was a wide slot, but also narrow across, whatever bases he was using.

I have never had any bend like that. But, ALL BASE SLOTS ARE NOT CREATED EQUAL!


On the B&M Patches.
Received the Gray/black patches today--Much better than the mess up on the red/yellow. I like these for patches. Also, new red/yellow patches are ordered, and should be in next week.



Michael

Michael

That grey patch nails it-

In other news I think my 458 ss is going to become a 458-325 WSM most of the brass I have is 325-so there we go.

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Originally posted by Cross L:
Michael

That grey patch nails it-

In other news I think my 458 ss is going to become a 458-325 WSM most of the brass I have is 325-so there we go.

Cross

I like the Gray as well. Gonna try and get some out to you guys ASAP.

I did my 475 B&M the same--I had a lot of 325WSM brass already made for it. I forgot that I got a great deal on some 325 a year or so ago, and bought 500 to 1000 of them. I really had not paid attention. So I went one more, I had both 300WSM and 325WSM put on the 50 and the 475 to cover all bases in case I mess up somewhere! HEH.... Got crap all over the barrels now--hell with it, I don't care! LOL............. Long as it makes the idiots at customs happy if they ever check!

M

Michael -

Now you know the grief I have been experiencing! Very similar minor shifts in POI, causing me to know something was not sorted out. I won't belabor my issue, but suffice it to say, again, ALL BASE SLOTS ARE NOT CREATED EQUAL! The difference between a Weaver base and a Picatinny base is real. Sadly, many manufacturers identify their own products incorrectly and some even claim their products to be Weaver/Picatinny! Believe me, there is no such animal and they are either one or the other. Get the wrong one and you will bring grief upon yourself.

BTW, the Burris bases came off and the QRW went back on.

quote:

BTW, the Burris bases came off and the QRW went back on.

Mike

ME TOO. Now with the QRW Bases everything is working, 475 B&M Ready to pack up. I can't believe I missed that? Sometimes, just way too much going on here.

Loading buffalo ammo today, 475 B&M. Taking a mix of bullets to work with. Benchmark bullet--420 BBW#13 NonCon HP at 2275 fps. A few 450 BBW#13 Solids. Several 425 North Fork CPS, 6 only of the 425 North Fork Premium Bonded bullets, and a few 320 BBW#13 NonCon HPs at 2600 fps. Nothing is further than 1 inch out from the 420 BBW#13 NonCon at 50 yds, and that is only the 320#13, the rest are within 1/2 inch or closer--good buffalo long range. Most shots will be much closer than 50.

Both 50 and 475 Super Shorts have 3 bullets each--50 B&M SS 335 BBW#13 NOnCon, 375 BBW#13 Solid, 375 North Fork CPS--and with the new Nose Profile North Fork FPS on the way, some 375 North Fork FPS as well.

RIP--Yes, I got a notice as well the .500s are on the way from North Fork!!!!! I intend to use the 375s in the 50.

475 Super Short, same mix as the 50 B&M, only in .474 caliber, 320 BBW#13 NonCon, 350 BBW#13 Solid, and 375 North Fork CPS. Don't intend on using many solids in either Super Short, but will be taking more of these than in the 475 B&M.

9.3 B&M is going too. If all goes as planned, I will be using mostly the 210 Raptor. Yep, little light I'd say for buffalo, but on herd reduction most will be cows, so I expect it will do just fine. But, there may be a "TOP SECRET" 9.3 Bullet going as well. CEB wants to test a possible improvement that might have an effect on "Buffalo" bullets in both 9.3 and 375 caliber. I spoke with our very own Kebco this week, who just returned from Oz. Kebco was shooting the new super duper double VC round in .375 caliber, and using 270 BBW#13s. Result were not bad, and in many cases very good, he said several buffalo dropped to the shot, none escaped, and none went far. But on heavy shoulder muscles he felt like the blades were not getting as deep as they wanted. Plenty of penetration on the bullet, but the blades were getting hung up in muscle before getting to the vitals when heavy muscle was contacted. After much thought, it really comes as no big surprise, as we drop in caliber, the blades become smaller, smaller blades penetrate less than big bore blades, it is the nature of things. While I had zero issues with the blades from the 9.3s with zebra, wildebeast, and smaller animals a couple of months ago, I did not shoot buffalo with the 9.3. Dan has come up with an idea that might improve blade performance for buffalo in 9.3 and .375. So I will be given that a workout to see. It will effect only the 255 BBW#13 NonCon in 9.3, and will not REPLACE the current bullet, but if the new bullet does indeed increase effectiveness on buffalo, it will be an added bullet to these to calibers. So we will see if we can increase Buffalo Performance, in these two mediums.

I really need to post this on the terminal thread as well--got carried away here I think!


Michael

Speaking of my 9.3 B&M---Wes at Accurate Innovations still has my rifle, and it's new Turkish Stock!!!!! It is my belief he has taken a liking to it, and is finding it hard to send back to me. I hope to get it pretty soon, as I am approaching TIME TO LEAVE quickly, little over a week right now! Fortunately I don't have much to do, slap a Nikon on it, sight it in, and Pack it up. Should not take much to do that, but still would like to get it back just in case of any minor issues need to be sorted out.

But, I did manage to get a few photos from Wes of the new Turkish, with the 9.3 installed!











I don't know, but it looks pretty spiffy to me!!!!!!!

Can't wait to see it for real---Oh Wesley??????

Michael

The gray patch looks great.
Got that Classy South Carolina Rebel look to it:



The loud yellow and orange patch does have appeal too, but forget the fade-in edge ring, just make it solid.
In Kentucky we go both ways: Yankee Yellow or Confederate Gray

BTW:

I have used Warne bases as well as the QRW Leupold bases, with Leupold QRW rings.
I much prefer Leupold QRW rings over Warne or Talley QD offerings.

I think Warne makes the QRW stuff for Leupold, just a hunch.
The Leupold QRW rings have worked well for me on either Warne or Leupold cross-slot, Weaver-style bases.

I'll stick to Badger rings and such on the picatinny rails.

Some precise measurements of various bases is in order before using the QRW rings on them ... later ...

Michael

RE the restamping on the SS guns--What caliber, if any do you put on your Form-4457?

Or just serial number and no caliber?

and on the stamp itself--are you hyphenating or just stamping 325 WSM?

Thanks

Michael-

Beau shot 20 rounds of .416Rem this morning, with most of them off the sticks. The last two targets from the shooting sticks were 3x3 solids & non-cons; all in the 5" bullseyes at 50 yards. He is ready and I hear the Buff are worried!

I plan on zeroing the Aimpoint on the 458B&M on Wednesday and awaiting arrival of B&M patches. Only 2.5 weeks till we depart!

quote:

The gray patch looks great.
Got that Classy South Carolina Rebel look to it: Cool

RIP--I never thought about that! I like it even better now! Yes, new Yellow ones have been ordered, no fade in edge, straight up darker yellow with a red edge ring. Exactly as you say.

QRWs, exclusively since 2000. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS--Until this ONE TIME, used Leupold QRW Bases. For the life of me, I can't imagine what was on my mind using the Burris base? Maybe, I had no mind? I have never had an issue with the QRWs at all. And, with everything set up QRWs, rifles, scopes everything, then it's easy for me to switch scopes, in and out and set up many rifles for different tests. Not to mention, carry a spare scope already set up just in case when out in the bush 1 million miles from no where. You know, don't have to have a scope break or fail. I have run into more instances when the hunter fell down, and busted the scope off the rifle than I have run into failures of the scope in the field.


CrossL

Yes, even on the 4457s I put 475B&MSS/325WSM. Good God, you should see my barrels on the 475! HEH... They were already marked just 475 B&M. Since I had messed up with a lot of 325WSM brass, and looking to the future as well, I had Brian's engraver put 325WSM and 300WSM on it as well. I have mess all over that barrel now!

But for the future on all of mine they will Marked something like this 50B&M/300RUM or 500MDM/375RUM, 458B&MSS/300WSM. These sort of things cover all the bases. In 25+++ trips across the pond I have never seen anyone check head stamps and barrels--But the problem is, can't count on that, it does not take but one time for one IDIOT and you have a serious problem. This takes care of that issue. Head Stamped brass is very difficult to come by, and as I have learned, sometimes even if you can get it, it is useless like some of that 500MDM I have that won't hold pressures! After that I decided the best thing we can do to cover our bases is mark the barrels, and I do the 4457s the same, this will really screw with them bad, as they can't deny that at all! HEH HEH.......... On the barrel, on the 4457 as well---you got'em by the short ones then!


LionHunter

Beau is READY! I can't wait to hear about the hammering that buff takes with those .416 370 BBW#13s! Do be careful about where you talk about this, if buff gets word of this, they might scatter to the winds and not even see one! I know, you can fool them, let them know you are coming with nothing but new barnes round nose solids! HEH HEH.........I hear they are not too scared of those! Excellent News--Thanks!

I have that 9.3 on the way back, be here on Tuesday. So I have to sight it in, get it ready. Loaded 475 B&M and 475 B&M Super Short ammo today--those are ready. Other than the 9.3 and loading and shooting some of the new .500 375 North Fork FPS for the 50 Super Short, I am almost ready. Leaving a week from this coming Tuesday.

B&M Patches---Some of you guys be checking your mailboxes as some patches left today via USPS!

Michael

As you boys know, I love a Winchester M70, and totally devoted. Well, I am the same way with a 1911 45 acp. I like Colt Series 70s, Commercial Colts, and even have a few 1911 Colts. Modern 1911s, I am a Kimber sort of chap. I have several. Recently getting some Winchesters for B&Ms on Gunbroker I could not help myself but take a look over on the 1911 side and found this Satin Nickel Colt Series 70. Now I have no earthly idea what I needed it for, while I had several blue Series 70 guns, a matching set of bright nickel Series 70s, C guns, and so forth, I didn't remember having a Satin one? Could not resist.

So I got it in, had those awful wrap around plastic pachmeyers on it, which came off quick. Looking around, I had this set of Mammoth Ivory that my buddy Sydney Ryan, down in Tupelo MS had scratched a buffalo and the letter M on them for me. Looks like a match to me. Thought I would just share it with you--you can call it a B&M handgun if you want, so's we can justify it! HEH HEH.......






I am also watching another Satin gun--damn, don't need it, perfect match to this one.........

Michael

Doc M,
Just to further digress, I am a Glock 21 45 ACP kind of guy,
with Glock 27 40 S&W pocket preference, and a Stetson hat collection,
"Justified": All hat and no 1911.

Wife told me the B&M patches from SC
and a 31-pound package from North Fork
arrived simultaneously today.
I will have fun with the patches:
Baseball cap, beret, pith helmet, gun case ...

RIP

quote:

Doc M,
Just to further digress, I am a Glock 21 45 ACP kind of guy

Just PLEASE don't tell me you put that in a "Plastic" holster? Ugggghhhh! HEH.......

Excellent--glad some patches arrived. Have more on the way.

I also received the New North Forks yesterday as well! Will be shooting the .500-375s this morning in the Super Short for POI. And, to load some up for the Oz shoot.

Michael

The patches look great and I will order a few.
By the way, your comments on Weaver and other bases made me look as some of mine and the rings. None as bad as those in the pics above, but cracked and bent ones, yes. Went immediately to Sptsmn's Warehouse and bought new QRW bases for all rifles. Thanks.

I like the buff image on the 1911 scales better than on the badges.
Too late to swap?

Patches arrived today,

They are SUPER



I do prefer the Grey -I reckon maybe I just am not flamboyant--might even like a subdued version--green, black and grey

quote:

Originally posted by Cross L:
Patches arrived today,

They are SUPER



I do prefer the Grey -I reckon maybe I just am not flamboyant--might even like a subdued version--green, black and grey

You know, I had intentions of picking only 1 official Logo. Then Momma and I started messing around with a few different colors, and I COULD NOT PICK ONLY 1. I had to have something for the upcoming DVD, so for that I did the gray. But, patches, shirts and whatever things we do like that, I see no reason to be locked into only 1 logo, or one color. The new yellow/red patches that are being done won't have the attempt at the gradient, and will be a darker yellow. Maybe have those this week. Maybe?

There was a brown logo, and a green one, both gradient to black, I have those on the website, but don't like those quite as good as the gray and the yellow one. Good Fun.

Oh, I had to send the buffalo to the DVD folks, just the buffalo, not in the logo. Buffalo was much thicker, wider, face and horns. I suppose he got squeezed up when putting him in that circle?

Shirts, all have to wait until I return. Hats as well.

Henry is also working on the logo for embossing the leather goods, buffalo and all! He will also start working on the rifle slings and cartridge slides soon.

I have elephant leather and buffalo leather finally on the way from Zimbabwe too, being sent in the next couple of weeks. So we can make some more things!

Mid August there is a pretty spiffy article coming out about the B&Ms in a rag called Rifle FirePower. I suppose it's one of those once off type magazines or something? It's by Jon Sundra, he did a pretty good job I think. If I already mentioned this, forgive me, I forget things.

Also in an upcoming Guns & Ammo, Layne Simpson is back again with the 50 B&M Alaskan in something like a cartridge profile sort of piece, probably a 1 page thing. Layne loves that lever gun.

Went to the dentist yesterday--Yes Lionhunter, I did finally! Got a little infection going on, hopefully clears up, or if not--ROOT CANAL!!! Lionhunter pushed me to sort that out before leaving next week--I am very glad I listened to that sound advice. Been going on a week or so, just figured maybe it would go away--Not! Hard headed sometimes.

Michael

Michael

Glad you saw the dentist! So now no worries while hunting OZ.

The patches arrived at both Carl - remember he is a D.D.S., Hee-Hee - and my homes this morning. I like the gray and note that the lettering is much less distinct on the yellow due to the migration of the red. This should not be the case with the new solid, darker yellow, I trust.

Cross L confirms receipt of his 10 rd Elephant hide B&M cartridge slide he purchased from me. He comments that, as he makes his living in a saddle, he knows quality leather work and the slide has "great workmanship" and "is super".

By-the-bye, I've heard a rumor that Australian buff have been seen swimming towards the land of the All Blacks. Wonder if this is related to the pending arrival of a certain group of B&M aficionados?

Next package is due to arrive today.

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By-the-bye, I've heard a rumor that Australian buff have been seen swimming towards the land of the All Blacks. Wonder if this is related to the pending arrival of a certain group of B&M aficionados?

I knew I should have kept my damned mouth shut!!!!!!!

I sent word last week "You Tell them, I am coming, And Hell is Coming With Me"


Michael

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Carl - remember he is a D.D.S.,

Oh, yes, how do you think I come to look like this;

Just wanted to see these pics at the top again. Shot the thing over the weekend...if you don't like what we've done with it just send it back.

You gonna post pics on the 9.3 page of B&M site?

quote:

Originally posted by michael458:
Speaking of my 9.3 B&M---Wes at Accurate Innovations still has my rifle, and it's new Turkish Stock!!!!! It is my belief he has taken a liking to it, and is finding it hard to send back to me. I hope to get it pretty soon, as I am approaching TIME TO LEAVE quickly, little over a week right now! Fortunately I don't have much to do, slap a Nikon on it, sight it in, and Pack it up. Should not take much to do that, but still would like to get it back just in case of any minor issues need to be sorted out.

But, I did manage to get a few photos from Wes of the new Turkish, with the 9.3 installed!











I don't know, but it looks pretty spiffy to me!!!!!!!

Can't wait to see it for real---Oh Wesley??????

Michael

quote:

Just wanted to see these pics at the top again. Shot the thing over the weekend...if you don't like what we've done with it just send it back.

You gonna post pics on the 9.3 page of B&M site?

Stockbroker, Yes, will put the 9.3 on the 9.3 page on the B&M site, after I take some decent photos! You know, some of the entire rifle? Some that are in focus? No shiny spots. No half barrels and cut off barrels! HEH HEH........... And we have hi hopes that UPS has not ran it over with a fork lift, or truck?



Lionhunter

quote:

Carl - remember he is a D.D.S.,

Wish Carl was around--headed to get this problem "Rooted Out" this afternoon, 2:30 PM. But I am in good hands, my guy here is a shooter as well.

Very good. Shouldn't take but a couple days to fully recover and much better to suffer a bit at home than to end up in pain while in the bush of the Northern Territory of OZ.

I actually had to have Carl use some of his JU-JU while in the Rocky Mountains on an Elk hunt back in the early 1980's. I had a full gold crown decide that was the time to come off! Would have ended the trip without his presence.

Well

the New 458SS went to the engravers today-gotta get 458-325 WSM on it so it will be RSA legal because if every thing works right--its going kitty hunting.

Cross

Here Kitty, Kitty, Here Kitty, Kitty! Meow---------




Well now! Received the Gunkoted/Bastogne 50 B&M and 475 B&M back today from "Brian Tune-Up". Both now retain all three down in the magazine, and in addition, add that 4 th one on top, load up--4 shooter! Excellent! I have to tell you, these two guns come in 1/2 lb lighter than standard, maybe 3/4 lb. Normal AI stocked rifles, and any other wood, English and what have you have been coming in at 8 to 8 1/4 lbs--both of these guns with 18 inch barrels are 7 1/2 lbs total--Handle incredibly well. Now with both guns retaining, and doing their thing, Michael is satisfied.

I also received the Turkish 9.3 B&M, and it is way the hell better than Wes can photograph! And, it's probably better than I can photograph too. Will try and do some photos of it the next day or so.

I just returned a bit ago from getting that tooth Roto-Rooted. Have to go in the morning and get something else done as well.

Brian also did his fix on the floor plate/spring issue. This is what he did to sort it out. Staked in place. Now the bend you see up front, that is my mess, not Brian. It looks like it will hold, we will find out. I cannot move it at all.





Michael

Must say I like leather better than plastic when it comes to holsters.

Looks like Brian beat the hell out of the floor plate and the spring with a punch!
Hey, I can do that myself ...

Regarding the placement of the "fixed" M70 springs:
Your mileage may vary in the B&Ms versus what I am getting with my 12.7X68 49-10.

Whatever works!

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Must say I like leather better than plastic when it comes to holsters.

My god man, if you had been a "PLASTIC" holster guy, I know all hope would have been lost for you!!!

HEH HEH...........

quote:

Looks like Brian beat the hell out of the floor plate and the spring with a punch!
Hey, I can do that myself ... hilbily

Man, that is just my kind of thing--Big Hammer and a Punch--I have already been to work on some of mine! I did the 475 B&M Super Short, and the 475 B&M that I am taking to Australia the same way--so far here on the range, nothing has moved.

Now some of that scratching and bending, and ugliness is "Yours Truly" Myself! I am sure that Brian will turn out better work than I do in the end. LOL...... One thing, boys, you really don't want me to do any sort of "Fixing" in the end. My tools--Big Hammers & Vise Grips, and on occasion, bastard file! Now I can really ruin some things with that bastard file! I still have not learned that once it is removed--You can't put it back!

Michael