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Ray, I have been talking to the guys at Hornady and trying to get them to neck up the .338 Ruger Compact Magnum (which is just a shortened .375 Ruger) up to 9.3. Now, wouldn't that be sweet.


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how about the .358 CRG ... popcorn
 
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10 pages of death and distruction over a subject that is about as important as which tree my dog lifts his leg on! What are you guys smoking? horse rotflmo There just ain't no damn difference in a Ruger and a H&H thats worth reading 10 pages! pissers


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Ray, Which tree is your dog's favorite? Cool


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All this for a caliber best suited for use by women and children?

Enough already.
 
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458,
Unfortunatly it the little one in the corner of my living room, but don't tell my dear wife, she would shoot my dog and me! shocker


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FINALLY --
both rifles are completed and scoped.

dang, this has taken far too long.. but that's relative to my near zero "Free" time.


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...and I still have a "chop saw" ready.

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Keith,
We are going to have to get that together and get it done.. i figure i'll bring a 55 gal bucket to dunk the barrels to cool em off...

nice thing about throw aways!


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jeffe, call me, cell ph.

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Dave Bush,
Ruger recently came out with the 9.3x62 in the Ruger Hawkeye African. It is one awesome factory rifle IMO..I grabbed the first .338 in Idaho and I'm loving it..I have a 1930 Husqvarna mod. 98 in 9.3x62, its a dream rifle. In fact I have 2 of them, it just happened.


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Might be off topic, but how does the Ruger perform with heavier bullets such as the 350gr Woodleighs??


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It sounds like the Joust may be under way.

popcorn tu2 coffee


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Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

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I'm curious as to the accuracy of the rifle barrels after a few dunkings. When you get down to 12" I want to see some videos of the flame throwers in action. What they can do at 16 and 18" will be interesting.


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It sounds like the Joust may be under way.

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just tried shooting them dang ab barrels make it hard to want to cut them up

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just shot 2 ab barrels, 375 ruger and 375 hh in about the worst possible condition..
full length barrels, untrimmed
ab "crown" from midway
NO BREAK IN PERIOD
enfield actions and military triggers
trigger binding on one of the actions due to stock
bedded around front screw ONLY (mega stick 2 part epoxy)
cobbled up scope bases
factory ammo

now, i have to admit, the on with the binding trigger wasn't sub moa (on shots 6,7,8, and 10,11,12 down the barrel).. but 1.1 ish is pretty close

the other? shots 6,7,8 and 11,12,13 (adjustments for missing shots) are sub moa...

just saying


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What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
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I'm curious as to the accuracy of the rifle barrels after a few dunkings. When you get down to 12" I want to see some videos of the flame throwers in action. What they can do at 16 and 18" will be interesting.


under legal aint gunna happen, boomie.... ever


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

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What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
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The .375 Ruger I had was built by me on a FN commercial action, and had a long throat and box. but contrary to common belief the 350 Gr. Woodleigh by design is the same length as the 300 gr., the extra 50 grs. is in the ogive, same applies to the 450 gr. .416 Woodleigh. I really am a believer in the Woodleigh 350 and 450 gr. bullets, they flat out work on buffalo..

If one wanted to use the 350 gr. Barnes X, and I see no reason to use that one as the 300 gr. BX will penetrate and tank, then one would probably need to open up the magazine and cut a longer throat for the 375 Ruger due to the short case, and the long bullet taking up powder space, not so with a 375 H&H and its long neck.

IMO the 350 gr. Monolithics are probably tumble prone as they are just too long for caliber. In fact I believe the 270 gr. monolithic is best in the 375s and has more than ample penetration. I have seen them penetrated a buff form stem to stern.


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Ray, that is not correct. I have reloaded a 350 gr TSX in 375 Ruger with no problems at all (3.28" Coal). The Barnes site lists H414 at 75 gr as max although that gave me some pressure signs in warm weather. I switched to 71 gr RL-17 with no pressure signs at all and 2380 fps. There is plenty of room left in the case and I don't think this is max, it just matched exactly to my 350 gr solids with 77 gr of Hunter.

These loads shot wonderfully and performed perfectly on 2 buff in Zim this August. The Barnes website was a good place to start for their 350 gr bullets.


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IMO the 350 gr. Monolithics are probably tumble prone as they are just too long for caliber. In fact I believe the 270 gr. monolithic is best in the 375s and has more than ample penetration. I have seen them penetrated a buff form stem to stern.


tu2 Always drop down in weight with a TSX.


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just tried shooting them dang ab barrels make it hard to want to cut them up


They are good barrels. My daughter's 257 Bob with an AB barrel would pile 110 grain Nosler Accubonds on top of each other. I will buy more of them!


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so jeffeosso you got any updates on your test. the wait is killing me
 
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jugdeing from the lack of a response this tread and test is dead to bad would have been interesting


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jugdeing from the lack of a response this tread and test is dead to bad would have been interesting


I would say it is srill on hold.

jeffe, (I think) has too many irons in the fire. One day it will happen.

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guns built, sighted in, and baseline testing done at 84 degs..

we'll get around toit .. not today.. tomorrow aint looking too good either

but, welcome to the forums, riverbear


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Hunt 99 and Dave Bush,

I don't doubt your posts at all..I would however suggest that the twist of a rifle has more to do with stabilization or the 350 gr. Monolithics and also some barrels like them and others don't..so its a barrel to barrel thing and the only way one can know on any of these type of conversations is "try them."

Also, an pardon my "misintention" or whatever you want to call it, I was typing and got behind myself. I was refering tumbling on contact with game, as well as in the accuracy dept and I was not clear on that, sorry about that.

Mostly what I was trying to say is I am suspecious of the heavy monolithics as they are incredibly long for a .375 bullet whereas the cup and core bullet with a proper ogive are not, but if the monolithics work in your particular gun then its a moot question for you.

I still contend that they should be tested for accuracy and in a medium of some sort ( I use dry magazines as they are tough on bullets) in each individual rifle for that reason...but that applies to any gun I shoot with any bullet.


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took my 375 ruger to the range today I wanted to see what the 270gr factory loads where running through the chrony 2727 fps 20in barrel. It was a nice day for shooting -3 to -4 celcius/ 20 farenheit didn't have to wait long for barrels to cool off. anyone have a h&h 20in barrel and know what 270gr are running ? just wondering not trying to start trouble
 
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I can get anywhere from 2500 to almost 2700 FPS in my .375 H&H with 270 gr. bullets. what I am sure of it makes little difference in Killing power or trajectory..As a result of using the .375 for many years, I load it with 300 gr. bullets at 2500 FPS.

If I want long range then the 375 is not my choice, it was never ment for long range shooting IMO, but its a hell of a 300-400 yard caliber...The wind won't move that big bullet much and hold over is easy for me, figuring out wind is not.


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guns built, sighted in, and baseline testing done at 84 degs..



Jeffe
Any updates?

Also, I would be interested to hear what the results of the baseline testing were.


Jason

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Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

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Jason

"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
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Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

-Jason Brown
 
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