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Michael, Glad you are back and hope you feel better!!!! Sam | |||
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Hey Boss, Lets get some Gatorade or Pedialite in you for fluids and electrolites. Eat some bannanas, I don't need your potassium bottoming out and you getting a heart flutter. Other than that you sound OK, if you were good with the Customs then I would be worried. Cheers, John Give me COFFEE and nobody gets hurt | |||
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If you need 'polite' vocabulary for Atlanta airport you can try Greek NOTHOS: ('o' as in "no", 'th' as in 'thin') "someone who doesn't know who their father is." Sounds like you met some. be well! +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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Michael, A letter to each of your congressmen about customs in Atlanta will result in a very unpleasant time for them. Use direct quotes and specific times and dates. It may not be corrected, but it will sure make them feel uncomfortable due to their boss having to answer the congressionals.  .395 Family Member DRSS, po' boy member Political correctness is nothing but liberal enforced censorship | |||
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DocM, How about these words which they will not understand but will you great satisfaction in future: matherchod "Indian for MF" bahenchod "Indian for sisterF" | |||
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Doc M, If you are still that sick, you better get to a medical facility that can draw blood/STAT labs and check your electrolytes on the spot and give you some IV fluids if needed. Don't take any chances with the Key Person of McCourry Institute of Ballistics.  | |||
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Glad you are still with the living. You have many more years of hunting ahead of you and I hope when those trophies proudly hang in your trophy room you will remember less the assholes in Atlanta unless you get a taxedermy of the hind end of one of your animals. I hope your complaints in Atlanta rain down shit on them. I'm sure a few here will try to skip Atlanta on future flights. This peanut will be patient while you rest up. I will order a Grey Goose straight up in your honor and to toast your sucessful trip since you won't be partaking for a few days.   Atlanta 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Michael, Sorry to hear about your illness...follow John's advise and get some electrolites into yourself and rest up. Besides writing complaint letters to your two senators and local congressman...also write to the congressman covering the Atlanta Airport. Additionally write complaint letters to the Atlanta Airport commission and to Delta Airlines. The Customs Port Director for the Atlanta Airport will soon tire of the cascading inquiries that have to be responded to and whether to Customs Port Director is an anti-hunter or not will quickly tire of the heat coming locally and from above and your group of miscreants will get verbally reamed for their actions - or should I say inaction - fairly quickly. Oh yes I almost forgot. Complaint letters to the Government Accounting Office, send one each to Washington, DC and one directly to the GAO office that covers Atlanta. Reason for this is that GAO must periodically evaluate the performance of Customs and Border Protection against the National Performance Benchmarks that have established for the Atlanta Airport and the reason for your unnecessary delay will be a topic of discussion with multiple levels of Customs Supervision during the next GAO airport performance survey. Rear up a few days and then do your best 'Mark Twain' on those pricks. Hope you get to feeling better soon. Jim  "Life's hard; it's harder if you're stupid" John Wayne | |||
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Hi Michael, Welcome home, and please get into see your Doc ASAP - don't fool around as you could end up with serious problems! I have lots of news, which I will email after you have a few days to recover. Entry via Atlanta last September. All the Customs Agents had attitudes and were surly and impolite. Fortunately I didn't have to wait too long but did get the "round in the chamber yesterday" story from them. I honestly believe this has become standard fare by way of excuse for them. Please, when you feel better, do follow up with letters about your treatment. It's the only way we can combat these assholes. Get well, Buddy. Mike ______________ DSC DRSS (again) SCI Life NRA Life Sables Life Mzuri IPHA "To be a Marine is enough." | |||
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As for the sickness I think I am doing far better today, so far nothing has come back out, but have not had much either. Nothing has stayed down since Sunday, not enough for me to take my normal meds which is now going on 4 days, and that is a concern. Having some crackers and such now, trying to take my normal meds so my pipes don't plug up, which I was sure was happening Monday Night! But not, as I did wake up and still here! Dr. Mercedes has been looking after me rather well, trying to get gatorade and such down me, but it just did not take! Today, doing much better, I think I am past it. Atlanta Customs! Must be from the top down there. As it has always been somewhat of an issue there. I expect it, know its coming. I don't know who it is at the top there, but they must instruct their guys to be pricks. One does not have these issues in Washington Dulles, Los Angeles, Miami, and when I came from Canada a couple of years ago I think I went through in Chicago, no issues, nice, courteous, helpful, just what you would expect and deserve! Atlanta? One time in Atlanta I swear I was a peach, never uttered a word, nice, courteous, good guy. Took my guns up, unlocked the case, opened it. Started to reach for my rifle to take it out of the gun sock for the guy and he went BALLISTIC! Grabbed my arm, told me YOU CANNOT TOUCH THAT WEAPON-STAND BACK! Holy Crap- What the hell? He took my rifles, and everything in the case and was literally banging them, tossing the cameras, range finders, other things in the rifle case around, finally I had enough of that shit! I told him point blank "Put a mark on any of these rifles and it will cost you more than you make in a YEAR, so you handle my things with more care, or go get your supervisor NOW! Another time in Atlanta the Customs Agent wanted to keep my 4457! I told him NO--That is my form for the rest of my life, I am not going to allow you to keep it! He said that I had to turn it in to him and he was keeping it! I said, No you are not keeping it and I will not leave here without it! Go get your supervisor right now! He left, with my 4457--Came back ALONE, handed me my 4457 and walked away, not a F word! Not sorry sir, I was wrong, nothing! Not last year, but the year before same story, got to Atlanta Customs, WAITING! Had to be 20 agents in the area, NOT ONE OF THEM DOING ANYTHING! No one was getting checked, people just piling in, nothing going on, no one doing anything, playing at the computers! After 30 minutes I very politely (Honest Injun) went to the desk, stated that I was going to miss my next flight, had firearms, showed my 4457, could someone please help me? Sir, get back in place, we will call you! OK--standing back, another 15-20 minutes goes by, still nothing, no one, not anything being checked, people still coming in? JHFC (You Know What JHFC stands For) I have had enough of this, so I start making some noise! I ask if any of them are going to work at all today? I think they just decided to get rid of me and called me up, checked and out the door, too late, already missed the plane! Had to rebook again. One time--ok fine, it happens! Over and Over--They go to Asshole School and are pricks everyone of them! Enough, when I get caught up, yep it's letter time! But got more important fires to put out first, one of them right here, as I know Boomy and Esskay are about to burst at the seams, so I put together the first of several report to come at least to put out one side of the fire with those two! HEH.............. Then I have to get my meds or pile up stone cold myself! HEH HEH.............. http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/default.html The New Word is "Non-Conventional", add "Conventional" to the Endangered Species List! Live Outside The Box of "Conventional Wisdom" I do Not Own Any Part of Any Bullet Company, I am not in the Employ Of Any Bullet Company. I do not represent, own stock, nor do I receive any proceeds, or monies from ANY BULLET COMPANY. I am not in the bullet business, and have no Bullets to sell to you, nor anyone else. | |||
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First work was done with the 9.3 B&M and that wonderful 210 gr ESP Raptor! The very first animal taken with the 9.3 B&M and the 210 Raptor was a Wildebeast at around 50 yds or so. One shot, frontal angle, exited, struck by lightning, down on the spot, legs kicking upward! Unfortunately for some reason we did not get a autopsy on this one. Right now, I forget exactly why or what the circumstances were that we did not? But, I do have it on video! In fact, I have video on nearly every animal. Andrew did a spectacular job with this, as he did all of them while I did the shooting. I am not a video sort of fellow, but I wanted animal reactions to review, and got them. Don't be looking to see this anytime soon. I have not even figured out how to get it on the computer much less anything else--this is going to be some time! I can figure out photos, most of the time however! The next two animals to take hits were two red hartebeast. I suppose 100-125 yds or so. Andrew having camera, binos, sticks, this and that, we forgot the range finder! I hit these from a tree I found a good perch on. Funny thing, there were two of them only. One right, one left. In my tree, there was a stick 2 inches in front of the muzzle, broke it off enough to clear for the hartebeast on the left, after I hit the first one, he also dropped immediately to the shot, never moved again. His pal on the right stood up, looked at him dumbfounded as to what the hell had happened? It was far too much temptation for me, so I moved on him and fired! Nothing Happened! He still stood there? In the scope I saw the bullet hit the dirt 25 yds in front of me--S**T--I hit that damned stick, he still stood where he was, I moved up enough to clear the stick, hit him with what I was sure a good shot! He turned, dropping in the rear, Andrew was sure I hit it too far back and said so! I was not so sure of that. He dropped in the rear, took off full tilt, behind a large bunch of brush and disappeared? As we walked closer, behind that bush lay a hartebeast, I looked back at the tree, I was too far right, this was the second one, he had only made it 5-10 yards from being hit, perfect broadside, lung shot. The first one was only 25 yds or so away, still dead. Later as we watched reactions from taking BBW#13s we saw lots of animals drop in the rear end as they took impacts. Some of the animals that dropped in their tracks dropped in the rear end first and head second, very much like a perfect brain shot elephant does. I think that as we learn more about how these bullets react, or more so, how the animals react when taking this bullet we will see more of this sort of thing. Here is Mercedes making sure all is in order before proper photos are taken!  Now that she is satisfied with the results.  I am not going to lie to you, both animals were lung shot only, no heart hits. I also don't know which lungs belonged to which animal either! This is a fairly massive wound for one round from a medium caliber, 9.3!  In this shot the blades show up going into the lung tissue.  In these, more of the same   This is the exit of one of the hartebeast, clearly showing that some blades made it all the way through into the chest cavity on the other side opposite the entrance. They were found inside the chest cavity wall, the blades, they did not exit the skin.  This is a beginning of several more to come, but this is all I could muster up for right now, ya'll gonna have to give me a little time to get things put together. There are literally hundreds of photos to go through. Michael http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/default.html The New Word is "Non-Conventional", add "Conventional" to the Endangered Species List! Live Outside The Box of "Conventional Wisdom" I do Not Own Any Part of Any Bullet Company, I am not in the Employ Of Any Bullet Company. I do not represent, own stock, nor do I receive any proceeds, or monies from ANY BULLET COMPANY. I am not in the bullet business, and have no Bullets to sell to you, nor anyone else. | |||
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Thank you for the pics! Did you get the animal response you were looking for? Raptors fly over Africa! Raptors-15, PG-0 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Michael, it's clear from your illness that you didn't drink enough liquor on the trip! Preventive medicine is always the best! I know that when the red mist is before your eyes it's tough not to keep pulling the trigger, but you simply must take time to look after your health.  Now drink your electrolytes and maybe roll naked in some bullets to help you recover. We anxiously await more gory pics. P.S. - I met Dan from CEB at the NRA Convention on Friday the 13th. Great guy. | |||
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DocM, I totally agree. Did you not know that GG is a very good disinfectant? In any case do get to a "medical" doctor and take care of yourself. Those 9.3 Raptors are total "matherchods"...at this rate I am going to have my son, who is in Ct call you and see how to get one for me Looking forward to more Warm regards and welcome back  | |||
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Well Boys, no need for worries, I believe I have recovered and I believe I will see a few more sunrises! HEH....... But I don't think this eland I am getting ready to show you has much hope. Myself and my PH, video man, and heart/lung holder, Andrew!  Andrew and I thought you might also like this version--   This is the 500 MDM and the 350 ESP Raptor--With the new design tips. On this shot it blew by one side of the heart, as you see below, and completely destroyed the lungs with bullet and blades. There was of course no recovery of bullet which all exited everything shot.       Not much to add, photos tell the story here. Michael http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/default.html The New Word is "Non-Conventional", add "Conventional" to the Endangered Species List! Live Outside The Box of "Conventional Wisdom" I do Not Own Any Part of Any Bullet Company, I am not in the Employ Of Any Bullet Company. I do not represent, own stock, nor do I receive any proceeds, or monies from ANY BULLET COMPANY. I am not in the bullet business, and have no Bullets to sell to you, nor anyone else. | |||
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DocM, Bloody Hell! So if we use those Raptors of yours how the heck are we going to have sliced grilled heart? None left! Good Grief! | |||
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Fret not, Esskey, there is another grand tradition where I come from, sliced liver on a wood fire while the animal is being cut up. If the heart is gone there is still a chance for the liver. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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I think these photos would be much more informative if we had some similar photos of organs shot with other brands of bullets for comparison. 465H&H | |||
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Darn nice stocks on that there rifle. | |||
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Wish I had one just like it. | |||
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Michael, Great stuff! Never seen anything like it!!! Hurry up and start posting more! HEE HEE 465H&H So why don't you go shoot a bunch of stuff with conventional bullets so we can have the comparison! Make sure and do autopsies and take tons of photos. Sam | |||
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Tanz Exactly, this was just not sliced!  http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/default.html The New Word is "Non-Conventional", add "Conventional" to the Endangered Species List! Live Outside The Box of "Conventional Wisdom" I do Not Own Any Part of Any Bullet Company, I am not in the Employ Of Any Bullet Company. I do not represent, own stock, nor do I receive any proceeds, or monies from ANY BULLET COMPANY. I am not in the bullet business, and have no Bullets to sell to you, nor anyone else. | |||
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Zebras--9.3 B&M 210 ESP Raptor          http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/default.html The New Word is "Non-Conventional", add "Conventional" to the Endangered Species List! Live Outside The Box of "Conventional Wisdom" I do Not Own Any Part of Any Bullet Company, I am not in the Employ Of Any Bullet Company. I do not represent, own stock, nor do I receive any proceeds, or monies from ANY BULLET COMPANY. I am not in the bullet business, and have no Bullets to sell to you, nor anyone else. | |||
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I like Mercedes in that last shot...looks like she's modeling her dad, the PH and the wonderful effects of CEB's on punda... Those Raptors are nuts. I can remember a pic of PHC with a buffalo heart shot with a solid, it had nothing on that eland heart...Raptors are rapturous! | |||
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srose, By now you should know that all I ever hunt is elephant and would never use any soft nose on those. I also assume that many of us out there have such photos and could post them to better see what the difference is between different types of bullets.465H&H | |||
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Damn, Those pictures make me want to whip out the needle and thread and get to work ... Nice work there Michael. I'd say you and many others have fully validated the research and development you and Sam have done in the lab. NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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 Caption: Mercedes says: "Voila!" Could be used as an ad for many things, including B&M and CEB. | |||
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That pic is priceless and tells a good story.
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Rat bore Raptor update. CEB made some awesome 85 grain 6.8 SPC Raptor bullets that are in the testing phase now. Someone on the 6.8 forum will do some hog hunting with them. Should be awesome for those wanting a light 270 bullet or those wanting the Raptors in 6.8 SPC. Michael, when you are up for it and if someone close has a 6.8 SPC this would be a great bullet to test in the mix. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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________________________________________________ Absolutely. DocM you are blessed! Not only do you have a lovely child but one that goes hunting with you! Fortunate man indeed! | |||
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Actually that is Michael's third hand that he needs and uses for all the work he has accomplished. It just happened to escape from under his hat. Apologies to the young lady. She's a sweetheart. Max .395 Family Member DRSS, po' boy member Political correctness is nothing but liberal enforced censorship | |||
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The setting sun with a cheerleader, it just needs a little African music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRpeEdMmmQ0 (South African world cup theme 2010) +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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Sorry Doc, I think these are "Beyond Repair".
Thank You! I concur. Of course there are those, and more likely will be those out there that will state that one is wasting time doing test work in the "Lab", that one cannot draw conclusions from test work that will translate into field work. There are those who have stated that I have misinterpreted the test work. There are those who say a lot of things, but have nothing but BS to back it with. Obviously they think me a fool! I don't get paid for this. Not my job. I am but a lowly Forester by profession. "THEY" would have one believe a lot of crap if one was so inclined to listen. Do "THEY" actually believe I would waste my time doing something that I know would not translate to field work? Do "THEY" Believe me Stupid? Bad news for "THEY", as I told ""THEY" this outcome 230 pages ago! Bad News for "They", I am not stupid! Bad News for "THEY", I am no fool either! And I don't waste my time! "THEY" are "Shit For Brains". End of that Story! RIP Mercedes! HEH..... What a trip! I have no idea what she was doing in that photo, did not know it until going through the photos the last day or so! Yes, it looks like she is saying something to "THEY ABOVE" "Well, Did you expect something Else?"---Perhaps? Boomy
Someone else will have to work these calibers. I do .224, .257, .264, .308, .338, .358, .366, .416, .458, .474, .500, .510. And I have little interest in anything of mine less than .338, and with the 9.3 I have little interest in my own 338-358s. With one exception that I have renewed some interest in the .224 Raptors as I sent two of my 223 Rem Win M70s to Brian to have new 1:8 twist barrels put on, one a nice little sporter with a 20 inch 1:8 that just might work into a very nice little rifle for Momma and Mercedes to use on Impala and such, with that kick ass 50 gr ESP Raptor! Now that has peaked my interest a good bit, along with Momma's and Mercedes interests! Esskay, yes blessed no doubt about it! Damn Max, Busted!
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Page 231! Amazing. Anyway................ This Oryx made a bad mistake! He stood still a bit too long, giving me a "POTS" shot! Point on the shoulder. Wicked shot, crunching bone, vitals, and this was the longest penetration recorded of the two Raptors tested. 500 MDM, 350 Raptor and penetration at EXIT was 3 feet.  Now case in point about the massive Entrance Wounds. Bullets do NOT blow blades on the hides, it's after entry. On this point of the shoulder shot below you will see just a .500 caliber + a bit hole in the skin and hide. Next you will see the massive wound inflicted and broken bone inside it. Now we have all seen examples where a lightly constructed bullet blows up on the shoulder, or hide of an animal when a conventional is run with velocity beyond it's design limitations, and they are ugly as well--but they do not go on to penetrate 3 feet either, and taking everything out in between.   And the in between mess.  M http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/default.html The New Word is "Non-Conventional", add "Conventional" to the Endangered Species List! Live Outside The Box of "Conventional Wisdom" I do Not Own Any Part of Any Bullet Company, I am not in the Employ Of Any Bullet Company. I do not represent, own stock, nor do I receive any proceeds, or monies from ANY BULLET COMPANY. I am not in the bullet business, and have no Bullets to sell to you, nor anyone else. | |||
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The Tale of Two Wildebeasts! I love shooting Wildebeasts! I suppose it could be that they bear a resemblance to my favorite game of all--Buffalo! Fairly tough critters as well. Nothing "Soft" about the beast! First thing on this morning beast was on the ticket! Caught a small group of bulls meandering about, did a good sneak on them, and I got set up with the 9.3 off a solid position perched in a small tree. On recall, there were 6 or 7 of the beasts. All about the same to me, so it was just a matter of waiting a bit until a clear shot become available. This took some time, as first one would be in front of the other, then behind. Had I been patient, I could have probably got a "Two for One" there! Penetration is not an issue with these bullets! HEH........... Shot came clear, right on the shoulder, bang! Hit hard, took off, found dead 50 yards, stone cold.  This is one side of the lungs.  This is the other side of the lungs.  Not much hope of survival I would estimate. Now this next beast was truly a wild one. We are walking down the edge of a very large open type area. Beast jumps out, 50-60 yards in front of us, rather unexpected. Stands facing, nothing to get on but the sticks, and set up quick, take a quick shot with the 500 MDM, and I MISS! Flat out, miss, don't know why, how or anything else, just miss completely! Pissed at myself, he takes off running, it's open, throw another round in the chamber, line up, get in front of him, and turn another 350 gr Raptor loose on him! I hear the loud smack as the bullet hits, I see the rear end waiver as he continues to run, then like a skidding side to side car he is off and disappears through the brush! CRAP! Too far back! Gut shot, no doubt about it! Now I have compounded a miss with a gut shot, and I am very sure we are in for the entire day tracking and trying to catch up to the beast! Why did I do that? I am not a running shot chap, especially getting out to 75 yards, or maybe even slightly more! 25 yes--75+, no, not on a beast at full tilt boogie! But it was so, I did it, now it's time to pay the price! Off we go, we go for about a 100 yards tracking, no blood. Decide to turn Andrews dog Ruger loose on him and see if he can keep up! We turned Ruger loose, and in two minutes much to our surprise Ruger was raising hell just in front of us behind a bush!  We walk up, sure enough, there lay the beast! Stone Cold Dead! Further study showed the entrance had been a tad high, and just in front of the right rear leg. Bullet had traversed at a slight angle and exited just forward some of the stomach, I had thought in the field that it might have been possible the bullet had caught the back of the lung left side.  This was indeed going to turn out to be an interesting autopsy to figure out exactly what killed the beast! Back at the "Autopsy Shed", we found that the lungs had not a mark on them from anything, clean as can be. No wound, no blade, no nothing. The gut pile was a MESS to say the very least. As you can see from the following series of photos. You will also see parts that I don't know what they are, just gut parts! I think Kidneys is one, and some other things.    The below shot on the left you see the gut pile from the beast shot in the lungs with the 9.3, on the right is the gut pile of the beast shot with the 500 MDM in the guts. Big Difference I'd say.   Gut shot wildebeast down, dead and out in 300 yards! Never even heard of such a thing! Michael http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/default.html The New Word is "Non-Conventional", add "Conventional" to the Endangered Species List! Live Outside The Box of "Conventional Wisdom" I do Not Own Any Part of Any Bullet Company, I am not in the Employ Of Any Bullet Company. I do not represent, own stock, nor do I receive any proceeds, or monies from ANY BULLET COMPANY. I am not in the bullet business, and have no Bullets to sell to you, nor anyone else. | |||
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Impala things--9.3 B&M 210 ESP Raptor. Shot 3 impala with the 9.3. Not much to tell here of course, you see the lungs of one in the first photo. Entrance wound on another in the next, and perhaps #3 is the most interesting of these to me. On the 3rd photo I got a little high on the shot and did not realize it. The Raptor took out a large part of the spine, completely, gone, don't know where all that stuff went--just gone.   http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/default.html The New Word is "Non-Conventional", add "Conventional" to the Endangered Species List! Live Outside The Box of "Conventional Wisdom" I do Not Own Any Part of Any Bullet Company, I am not in the Employ Of Any Bullet Company. I do not represent, own stock, nor do I receive any proceeds, or monies from ANY BULLET COMPANY. I am not in the bullet business, and have no Bullets to sell to you, nor anyone else. | |||
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I am a big believer in ending any hunt on a good note! This one no different, hunt, shoot, or research, whatever you wish to call it, I was lucky to end it on a good note. This last zebra took the 9.3 210 Raptor right on the shoulder, and exited the other side in front of the far shoulder. Had to have clipped an artery in between as I have never in my life seen as much blood on a trail in my entire life. On the hit, he took off with the herd in a dead run, but before long he was bringing up the rear. Blood trail 2 feet wide, continuous, I don't think you could put your hand down without being in blood. This went on much further than I thought it could have, 75 to maybe a 100 yards and he was completely bleed out. I did not get an autopsy on this zebra.  Last animal on the trip--Another Beast! He made a bad mistake, he stood still just a bit too long and I was able to lock in the 500 MDM on his shoulder! I always wrap in my sling, and the rifle was solid as if it were on the bench. Impact was hard, and the chase was about 20-25 yards before he took the final dive. I quick and good ending for all.    With this I conclude the thin skinned plains game study with the 9.3 B&M and the 210 ESP Raptor and the 500 MDM and the 350 ESP Raptor. Michael http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/default.html The New Word is "Non-Conventional", add "Conventional" to the Endangered Species List! Live Outside The Box of "Conventional Wisdom" I do Not Own Any Part of Any Bullet Company, I am not in the Employ Of Any Bullet Company. I do not represent, own stock, nor do I receive any proceeds, or monies from ANY BULLET COMPANY. I am not in the bullet business, and have no Bullets to sell to you, nor anyone else. | |||
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Michael, Congrats on such a successful hunt. I've emailed the website address to my hunting friends to see the damage done by the raptors. Have had some very rude replies  on these.Mercedes really helps the photos. When we get our age, pretty young girls in a pic help a lot. .395 Family Member DRSS, po' boy member Political correctness is nothing but liberal enforced censorship | |||
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I know what bullet I want for the Zombie Appocalypse Thanks for posting the results Michael. I look forward to your published book on Terminal Performance. Anyone here know a good ghost writer? 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Kudos on the hunt Michael, very nice photos and the field results most definately substantiate the lab testing results. Prof it sounds like some of your hunting buddies just don't understand. Jim "Life's hard; it's harder if you're stupid" John Wayne | |||
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