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Originally posted by larryshores:
BWW was not a party to the litigation. He has not been effected by the litigation directly.

I doubt they have made much progress in collecting the judgments. The judgments totaled well over $200,000.

The judgments are as follows:

Henriksen $70,000 plus costs and interest
Manning $49,000 plus costs and interest
Osuchowski $61,026 plus costs and interest
Peterson $48,000 plus costs and interest

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Originally posted by Wild blue yonder:
Hey Norton what web site would you go to to get the info on these judgements? There are two more in the works that are addition to your post $110,000 and $7500. These hunters are still waiting to file. This all happened in 2010 and 2011.

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Originally posted by BLAIR WORLDWIDE:
This posting is in response to the allegations which have been lodged incorrectly against Blair Worldwide Hunting on this forum and others.

Dr. Brent Henriksen and his brother, Mr. Tyler Henriksen purchased a desert bighorn sheep hunt on December 11, 2008, as a Christmas present for their father, Lonnie Henriksen. The Henriksen sons had been searching the internet for sheep hunts and a friend of their fathers referred them to Blair WorldWide. Lonnie had booked hunts with Blair WorldWide Hunting in the past. The contract provided that Lonnie Henriksen had a choice of outfitters from which to choose. It was determined by Lonnie Henriksen that he would hunt desert bighorn sheep, coues deer and bring his wife as a non-hunter with Sheep LTD, owned by Larry Heathington, who at the time, had an excellent reputation as a sheep hunter and guide and had guided many of the Governor’s tags for sheep.

As the booking agent, Blair WorldWide Hunting, pursuant to the requirements of the contract, sent the vast majority of the money Larry Heathington, who was the contracted hunter with Sheep LTD. Blair WorldWide, as a booking agent, is in a similar position to a travel agent that books travel on an airline or a cruise ship. When a ticket is purchased, the majority of the money goes to the airline or the cruise line and the booking agent retains a commission fee. It is the responsibility of the airline or the cruise ship to provide the services.

In this instance, it was the responsibility, and remains the responsibility of Larry Heathington, to provide the sheep hunts which were the subject of the contract. At the time the contract was entered into, the Henriksen’s were advised by Blair WorldWide, through the contract and via a trip insurance brochure, to buy trip insurance in the event that there was a problem with the hunt. The Henriksen’s chose not to do so. The fact that the majority of the Henriksens’ money was forwarded to Larry Heathington has been established conclusively by providing the Henriksen’s, and their attorney with copies of the cancelled checks from Blair WorldWide to Larry Heathington.

After the hunt was booked, Lonnie Henriksen and Larry Heathington spoke at length, several times before the contracted start of the hunt. After the original hunt date of January 2010 did not occur, conversations between Mr. Henriksen and Mr. Heathington continued well into March 2010 in regards to the new dates and location of the desert big horn sheep hunt. For reasons which were not entirely clear to Blair WorldWide at the time, or to anyone for that matter, Larry Heathington has reneged on his promise to conduct, not only the Henriksen hunt, but other clients hunts as well. It was later disclosed by Mr. Heathington and Sheep LTD that he did not conduct the hunts contracted for due to health issues (See Sheep LTD’s website). The bottom line is that the dispute is properly between the Henriksen’s and Mr. Heathington, the outfitter.

Blair WorldWide did take extra steps in attempting to help the Henriksen’s recovery their money even though Blair WorldWide, as a booking agent, has no obligation both contractually or ethically to do so. Blair WorldWide contacted Mr. Heathington on several occasions and strongly urged him to return the monies for the clients who did not receive their contracted hunts. When
those attempts failed, Blair WorldWide consistently assisted the Henriksen’s attorney in attempting to recover the money paid to Mr. Heathington through a civil lawsuit. In short, Blair WorldWide has done everything required of it, both legally and ethically, to assist not only the Henriksen’s, but also other clients, who contracted with Sheep LTD.
Blair WorldWide sincerely wishes that, not only Mr. Heathington and Sheep LTD, but all outfitters would provide the services that they contract for. However, in the real world, such is not always the case. Blair WorldWide has taken significant care to ensure that outfitters with whom clients are contracted provide good and legitimate services. Despite such care, every once in a while, an outfitter for a variety of reasons fails to perform. This is why trip insurance is recommended for all hunting and fishing trips booked. It is always clearly stated in all of Blair WorldWide contracts that the services contracted for are the sole and exclusive responsibility of the outfitter. Blair WorldWide sincerely hopes that the Henriksen’s recover their money from the person who possesses it -- That is Larry Heathington.

Any allegations that Blair WorldWide, in any fashion, deprived the Henriksen’s or any other party of their money improperly, illegally, or unethically, is simply untrue. The Henriksen’s have retained counsel to attempt to recover their money from Mr. Heathington and Sheep LTD. The
Henriksen’s have not, and cannot, legally claim that Blair WorldWide has withheld any of the funds owed to them by Mr. Heathington.

In sum, despite the unwarranted allegations to the contrary, Blair WorldWide acted at all times in an honest, professional, and ethical manner and any allegations to the contrary are not true

http://www.blairworldwide.com/.../SHEEPLTDWEBPAGE.htm

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Well, seems Blair registered his enterprise in AZ under Blair Worldwide Enterprises. It does show up on the AZ Sec of State website:

http://starpas.azcc.gov/script...649&type=CORPORATION

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Originally posted by someoldguy:

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Well, seems Blair registered his enterprise in AZ under Blair Worldwide Enterprises. It does show up on the AZ Sec of State website:

http://starpas.azcc.gov/script...649&type=CORPORATION

AZ, that listing seems to have disappeared from that website.

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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:

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Originally posted by someoldguy:

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Well, seems Blair registered his enterprise in AZ under Blair Worldwide Enterprises. It does show up on the AZ Sec of State website:

http://starpas.azcc.gov/script...649&type=CORPORATION

AZ, that listing seems to have disappeared from that website.

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You are correct; it was there when I posted it. I just did another search on Blair Worldwide Enterprises and it said no match found.

The obvious conclusion is that Blair is watching this thread minute by minute.

My neighbor called yesterday; seems his attorney was over and wanted to see my trophy room. While he was over, I gave him a brief summary of this. Now, the guy specializes in trust law, but he said it would seem some fraud laws have been broken.

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Originally posted by BLAIR WORLDWIDE:
This posting is in response to the allegations which have been lodged incorrectly against Blair Worldwide Hunting on this forum and others.

Dr. Brent Henriksen and his brother, Mr. Tyler Henriksen purchased a desert bighorn sheep hunt on December 11, 2008, as a Christmas present for their father, Lonnie Henriksen. The Henriksen sons had been searching the internet for sheep hunts and a friend of their fathers referred them to Blair WorldWide. Lonnie had booked hunts with Blair WorldWide Hunting in the past. The contract provided that Lonnie Henriksen had a choice of outfitters from which to choose. It was determined by Lonnie Henriksen that he would hunt desert bighorn sheep, coues deer and bring his wife as a non-hunter with Sheep LTD, owned by Larry Heathington, who at the time, had an excellent reputation as a sheep hunter and guide and had guided many of the Governor’s tags for sheep.

As the booking agent, Blair WorldWide Hunting, pursuant to the requirements of the contract, sent the vast majority of the money Larry Heathington, who was the contracted hunter with Sheep LTD. Blair WorldWide, as a booking agent, is in a similar position to a travel agent that books travel on an airline or a cruise ship. When a ticket is purchased, the majority of the money goes to the airline or the cruise line and the booking agent retains a commission fee. It is the responsibility of the airline or the cruise ship to provide the services.

In this instance, it was the responsibility, and remains the responsibility of Larry Heathington, to provide the sheep hunts which were the subject of the contract. At the time the contract was entered into, the Henriksen’s were advised by Blair WorldWide, through the contract and via a trip insurance brochure, to buy trip insurance in the event that there was a problem with the hunt. The Henriksen’s chose not to do so. The fact that the majority of the Henriksens’ money was forwarded to Larry Heathington has been established conclusively by providing the Henriksen’s, and their attorney with copies of the cancelled checks from Blair WorldWide to Larry Heathington.

After the hunt was booked, Lonnie Henriksen and Larry Heathington spoke at length, several times before the contracted start of the hunt. After the original hunt date of January 2010 did not occur, conversations between Mr. Henriksen and Mr. Heathington continued well into March 2010 in regards to the new dates and location of the desert big horn sheep hunt. For reasons which were not entirely clear to Blair WorldWide at the time, or to anyone for that matter, Larry Heathington has reneged on his promise to conduct, not only the Henriksen hunt, but other clients hunts as well. It was later disclosed by Mr. Heathington and Sheep LTD that he did not conduct the hunts contracted for due to health issues (See Sheep LTD’s website). The bottom line is that the dispute is properly between the Henriksen’s and Mr. Heathington, the outfitter.

Blair WorldWide did take extra steps in attempting to help the Henriksen’s recovery their money even though Blair WorldWide, as a booking agent, has no obligation both contractually or ethically to do so. Blair WorldWide contacted Mr. Heathington on several occasions and strongly urged him to return the monies for the clients who did not receive their contracted hunts. When
those attempts failed, Blair WorldWide consistently assisted the Henriksen’s attorney in attempting to recover the money paid to Mr. Heathington through a civil lawsuit. In short, Blair WorldWide has done everything required of it, both legally and ethically, to assist not only the Henriksen’s, but also other clients, who contracted with Sheep LTD.
Blair WorldWide sincerely wishes that, not only Mr. Heathington and Sheep LTD, but all outfitters would provide the services that they contract for. However, in the real world, such is not always the case. Blair WorldWide has taken significant care to ensure that outfitters with whom clients are contracted provide good and legitimate services. Despite such care, every once in a while, an outfitter for a variety of reasons fails to perform. This is why trip insurance is recommended for all hunting and fishing trips booked. It is always clearly stated in all of Blair WorldWide contracts that the services contracted for are the sole and exclusive responsibility of the outfitter. Blair WorldWide sincerely hopes that the Henriksen’s recover their money from the person who possesses it -- That is Larry Heathington.

Any allegations that Blair WorldWide, in any fashion, deprived the Henriksen’s or any other party of their money improperly, illegally, or unethically, is simply untrue. The Henriksen’s have retained counsel to attempt to recover their money from Mr. Heathington and Sheep LTD. The
Henriksen’s have not, and cannot, legally claim that Blair WorldWide has withheld any of the funds owed to them by Mr. Heathington.

In sum, despite the unwarranted allegations to the contrary, Blair WorldWide acted at all times in an honest, professional, and ethical manner and any allegations to the contrary are not true

http://www.blairworldwide.com/.../SHEEPLTDWEBPAGE.htm

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Originally posted by BLAIR WORLDWIDE:

Blair WorldWide sincerely hopes that the Henriksen’s recover their money from the person who possesses it -- That is Larry Heathington.

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Originally posted by larryshores:
BWW was not a party to the litigation. He has not been effected by the litigation directly.

I doubt they have made much progress in collecting the judgments. The judgments totaled well over $200,000.

The judgments are as follows:

Henriksen $70,000 plus costs and interest
Manning $49,000 plus costs and interest
Osuchowski $61,026 plus costs and interest
Peterson $48,000 plus costs and interest

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All judgments were against Heathington and/or Sheet LTD.

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Originally posted by Howard:
I am curious about the alleged "tack on" fee that keeps being discussed. I noticed that Blair didn't address that in his posts. In his shoes, assuming innocence, I would have addressed that front and center. If you operate a business and your typical and customary fee as established by prior practice and industry standard is a percentage of the sale it is fraudulent to tack on extra charges. Certainly it is unethical. If the US Mail was involved to send or receive checks or other forms of monies then mail fraud is involved and that gets the Feds involved. Seems kind of odd that it wasn’t addressed because that is the one area where contractually they could have some exposure.

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Originally posted by larryshores:
The judgments are as follows:

Henriksen $70,000 plus costs and interest
Manning $49,000 plus costs and interest
Osuchowski $61,026 plus costs and interest
Peterson $48,000 plus costs and interest

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Originally posted by larryshores:
Drummond:

Osuchkowski paid $55,000 for his hunt. He booked directly with Heathington. BWW was not involved in this case.

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Originally posted by northface:
In response to the question on coues deer--there were no fees charged upfront. It was agreed with Heathington that there would be a $3000 trophy fee after collected.

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Blair's were given a thumbs up by SCI, a man by the first name of Grey is who I taked to if I remember right. I also called other references and researched them on the web, and they seemed ok. I filed a complanit with SCI and didn't hear back from they for several months. When I called them they said that thier complanit department was in the process of moving and my case got lost in the shuffle. Several weeks later they called me and said they found no wrong doing on BWW's part. A while after that SCI called and wanted me to renew my membership. Can you believe it?

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Originally posted by Nganga:

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Originally posted by Larry Sellers:
Gato - Sorry, I have no idea about the $500.00 question, but will not comment further so as to keep the thread on track as suggested by some here.

Larry Sellers
SCI Life Member

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Originally posted by Gatogordo:

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Originally posted by Larry Sellers:
I know him, what is it you think he would be interested in? He fries a lot of really "BIG" fish, don't know if this would be in that catagory?

Larry Sellers

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Originally posted by Gatogordo:
Too bad no one knows Stossel, he seems like he might be interested.

Well, probably you're right, it's only a few hundred thousand dollars, certainly less than a million. It just seems to me he sometimes steps outside of the box and might have been interested in how people can be screwed out of so much money and the legal system seems to ignore it. After all, he's never done an episode on SCI either as far as I can tell. Tell me is it true that it takes $500 to file an ethics charge with SCI now?

Larry,

Gato is 100% correct, one of the major reasons I left SCI is the "Ethics Process"

Steve

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I wonder,did everybody get taken,or just those who could afford it?

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Originally posted by J_Zola:

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I wonder,did everybody get taken,or just those who could afford it?

Being able to afford a expensive hunt does not justify stealing.