Banning Sullivan and not Blair speaks volumes about SCI's values.

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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
Banning Sullivan and not Blair speaks volumes about SCI's values.

I know this isn't the place for this type of post, but I absolutely don't understand why so many people get their panties in a wad about the way Sullivan hunts and promotes himself. Personally I think it's some type of underlying envy that he has the balls to do what others won't and resent him for it.

Gato, I have shot game really close.

I have been within all but touching distance of elephant and buffalo. I like close.

I have had one charge by an animal, and it was a confused bushbuck of all things.

To have as many charges as Mr. Sullivan has he's doing something odd/wrong. To live to tell it shows he's good at what he does.

Anyhow, back to the main point here- don't deal with someone like Blair who refuses to stand up for their customer.

I suspect that Blair is right in that he did nothing illegal, his contract covers his ass there. I suspect that because he did nothing illegal, SCI refuses under fear of legal action to do anything about it.

I still don't have to buy a hunt from him, even if he's at the convention.

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Personally I think it's some type of underlying envy that he has the balls to do what others won't and resent him for it.

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Originally posted by crbutler:
Gato, I have shot game really close.

I have been within all but touching distance of elephant and buffalo. I like close.

I have had one charge by an animal, and it was a confused bushbuck of all things.

To have as many charges as Mr. Sullivan has he's doing something odd/wrong. To live to tell it shows he's good at what he does.

Anyhow, back to the main point here- don't deal with someone like Blair who refuses to stand up for their customer.

I suspect that Blair is right in that he did nothing illegal, his contract covers his ass there. I suspect that because he did nothing illegal, SCI refuses under fear of legal action to do anything about it.

I still don't have to buy a hunt from him, even if he's at the convention.

What did Mark Sullivan do that was illegal? He got the boot

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Originally posted by drummondlindsey:

What did Mark Sullivan do that was illegal? He got the boot

Mainly, he told the folks at the convention that he wouldn't do what they asked (allegedly anyhow...) Note that MS has not been thrown out of SCI, they just chose not to allow him to exhibit; and obviously he has enough business without SCI so he probably doesn't want to go through a lawsuit (or threaten one) just to get back on the floor.

Say what you will about MS, no one has said he's not a gentleman in person- personally its his showmanship or persona on camera that annoys me.

I can add it seems Blair is getting more and more desperate to sell and book hunts. 7 out of the last 9 days I have received a solicitation email from BWW, basically from the end of the convention till now. Tells me that the booking for him at SCI was not good

Sounds good to me. Trash is trash, regardless of the profession.

Here's hoping he smokes a turd in hades.

I would not book a hunt with any outfitter that is represented by these crooks.

Make that statement well known out there and he is out of business for good.

OUTFITTERS-
HEAR THIS - IF JEFF BLAIR IS REPRESENTING YOU, I WILL NOT HUNT WITH YOU!!!!

quote:

Originally posted by dogcat:
I would not book a hunt with any outfitter that is represented by these crooks.

Make that statement well known out there and he is out of business for good.

OUTFITTERS-
HEAR THIS - IF JEFF BLAIR IS REPRESENTING YOU, I WILL NOT HUNT WITH YOU!!!!

I am with you 100%

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Originally posted by drummondlindsey:

quote:

Originally posted by dogcat:
I would not book a hunt with any outfitter that is represented by these crooks.

Make that statement well known out there and he is out of business for good.

OUTFITTERS-
HEAR THIS - IF JEFF BLAIR IS REPRESENTING YOU, I WILL NOT HUNT WITH YOU!!!!

I am with you 100%

Every two days, like clockwork, I get an email from BWW. I have never used these guys in my life. I can only assume they got my email from the email sniping a SCI
The latest.

To B.W.H. Clients
Are YOU, or do you know anybody, looking for a hunt, wing shoot or fishing
trip 2015/2016? If we can help, call us at 928-779-2232. We still have Elk,
Marco Polo Sheep, Safaris, Ibex, North American Sheep and Russian Brown
bears available!! Call us at 928-779-2232.

Thank you
Sean, Jeff, and Audra

I like to play with these guys a bit, and sent back an email a couple weeks ago, asking about Zimbabwe and who they are booking for. The reply I received is that they are the booking agents for Pieters and Yeatman

see following email transcript:


On Feb 6, 2013, at 3:22 PM, "Blair WorldWide Hunting" <hunting@blairworldwide.com> wrote:




pieters & yeatman


----- Original Message -----

From: deleted

To: hunting@blairworldwide.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 4:02 PM

Subject: RE: Africa Sheep Bears and Ibex



Who are you booking for in Zimbabwe these days

deleted

Email: deleted





> From: hunting@blairworldwide.com
> To: deleted
> Subject: Africa Sheep Bears and Ibex
> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 09:17:36 -0700
>
> Marco Polo Sheep - the most beautiful and highest ranging sheep, hunt them
> while you can! 10 days 1X1 use Horses - it makes all the difference. 2013 &
> 2014 hunts available. Hunt Price plus Trophy Fee. There are 3 hunts in 2013
> available and will be escorted by Sean Blair. Book now to be on the Govt
> list. Call 928-779-2232 for details

At the SCi Show, in Vegas, this year I probably walked the row where their booth was 20 times.

I never saw anyone there talking to them.

It looks like word is getting out.

i am a bit surprised that Martin Pieters is using these fools.....

IF Martin is working with these guys, he is off my list. I like Martin and hope he terminates the relationship.

A year ago a list of operators was emailed out by Blair. I sent every PH an email letting them know where I stood and I posted it on here. A lot of people here thought I was wrong for doing that. I wasn't trying to hurt the PH's, I was letting them know what kind of trash they were affiliated with

I will never do business with anybody that uses Jeff Blair as a booking agent

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Originally posted by drummondlindsey:
A year ago a list of operators was emailed out by Blair. I sent every PH an email letting them know where I stood and I posted it on here. A lot of people here thought I was wrong for doing that. I wasn't trying to hurt the PH's, I was letting them know what kind of trash they were affiliated with

I will never do business with anybody that uses Jeff Blair as a booking agent

do you have a link to that posting?

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Originally posted by Full Roar:

quote:

Originally posted by drummondlindsey:
A year ago a list of operators was emailed out by Blair. I sent every PH an email letting them know where I stood and I posted it on here. A lot of people here thought I was wrong for doing that. I wasn't trying to hurt the PH's, I was letting them know what kind of trash they were affiliated with

I will never do business with anybody that uses Jeff Blair as a booking agent

do you have a link to that posting?

Its here and I believe you posted on those threads from a year ago. I am not going to drag it back to the top but if you want to find it you can search for it. My feelings have not changed and I will never do business with anybody that uses Jeff Blair an an agent

Well Drum- another email, a I said, every couple days like clockwork

This time its a help wanted add. Maybe you are looking for a second job?
Don't shoot the messenger!
Appears BWW is getting desperate enough to turn to telemarketers in addition to their mass email program



> From: hunting@blairworldwide.com
> To: deleted
> Subject: Help Wanted
> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 16:37:35 -0700
>
> Wanted
>
> Blair WorldWide Hunting,
> an international sales company,
> is seeking telemarketers to
> help sell worldwide trips.
>
> Mail resume to:
> Blair WorldWide Hunting
> PO Box 3088, Flagstaff, AZ 86003
> or call Audra Blair at 928-779-2232.
>
> please tell a friend about this opportunity


or todays solicitation



> From: hunting@blairworldwide.com
> To: deleted
> Subject: Black Bear and Brown Bear hunts available
> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 09:03:07 -0700
>
> Canada - Hunt the Lac La Biche area of Alberta for color phase black bears.
> Lac La Biche is well known for having some of the finest outdoor recreation,
> including hunting, in Alberta. This Outfitter caters to the hunter
> interested in a quality hunt at an affordable price. These fair chase hunts
> are strategically situated in the heart of North Eastern Alberta, mostly
> contained in the Boreal Forest Natural region. Few outfitters can boast
> finer black bear hunting than our Outfitter. These hunts take place in the
> May & June of each year. 2012 season produced 47 bears for 30 hunters.
> Hunt price for 2 bears - $4000.00
> 3 openings May 5 - 10, 2014
> 6 openings May 18 - 24, 2014
> openings in 2015
>
> Russia - Now is your chance to hunt the famed Kamchatka Peninsula, for brown
> bear. Best known as the densest populations of brown bears in the world, the
> Kamchatka Peninsula, is a natural choice for the serious brown bear hunter.
> Especially those of you that have been unsuccessful in North America! Spring
> hunts are usually conducted from snowmobiles and fall hunts use APC's. The
> hunt is 10 days in length and the hunt price includes guiding, lodging,
> meals, interpreters, field preparation of trophies and the license for 1
> bear. Our arrival point is Petropavlovsk on the Kamchatka Peninsula. These
> hunts will be escorted. Fall hunters can fly via Alaska
> Hunt price - $12,000.00 + trophy fee
> 7 - openings in 2015
> openings in 2016
>
> Alaska - Interested in hunting Brown Bears on the Alaska Peninsula? We have
> an excellent Outfitter in the John Swiss Federal area at Black Lake. The
> spring 2012 season was a late one on the Alaska Peninsula, but this
> Outfitter was able to produce 7 bears for 7 clients. There were even a few
> 10 foot plus bears for lucky hunters. Now booking Fall hunts in 2015
> (October) and Spring 2016 (May). Priced at $20,000
>
> Sales - Please call our offices at 928-779-2232 and speak with a Hunt
> Consultant to get further information on these great hunts. We do accept all
> forms of payment for deposits. If you are not looking for a bear hunt, call
> and put us to work on one of the other 700 hunts that we offer.
>
> Good Hunting!
> Sean, Jeff, Ron, Audra, Maxim, Jim, and Dutch

A friend of mine was selling a bear hunt to a guy and the potential client send him an email back asking why his hunts are more expensive than a hunt offering he had received via email. That other offering was from none other that Jeff freaking Blair. This is how Jeff Blair stays afloat. He preys upon the uninformed client that is simply looking for the "best deal" out there. Jeff Blair hires telemarketers for Christ's sake! He doesn't even use professional consultants. He is into sheer quantity, not quality

I told my buddy to direct that potential client to this thread as it's pretty self explanatory. Hell, goggle the guy, negative reports are everywhere.

This was on the second page and I wanted to bump it up. Todd Rice was the outfitter that used to work for Jeff Blair and its who the OP eventually went with to finally kill a sheep. Here is a YouTube video outfitter review of Jeff Blairs ex employee Todd Rice

http://youtu.be/WkCHv1biQBI

Tell me why if he is so Bad he gets to put a Whole page ad in the Safari Times

I think you are asking the wrong people but let us know what they say at Safari Times when you get an answer

I will tell you their answer, when they email Back

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Originally posted by blaser93:
Tell me why if he is so Bad he gets to put a Whole page ad in the Safari Times

You had to have known the answer before you even typed: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

quote:

Originally posted by blaser93:
Tell me why if he is so Bad he gets to put a Whole page ad in the Safari Times

You ARE kidding ... right? He "gets" to put a Whole page ad because he pays the $$$ for it!

Yes just got in the mail He has the whole next to the back page.
I read the first part , the complaint.
was Blairs World wide charged with anything.
if not thats why I got the answer from SCI I did.

quote:

Originally posted by blaser93:
Yes just got in the mail He has the whole next to the back page.
I read the first part , the complaint.
was Blairs World wide charged with anything.
if not thats why I got the answer from SCI I did.

Ask them what Mark Sullivan was charged with. They kicked him out.

They use the "he wasn't charged" excuse to justify taking Blairs money. Screw SCI, allowing trash like Blair to advertise with them is part of the reason why he'll stay in business

TTT

What Norton said

This Blair guy seems like a real creep! This may be off topic, but not all booking agents are bad guys. Many years ago I booked my first out of state hunting trip, a trophy mule deer hunt, through Jack Atcheson Sr. from Montana. I paid the hunt in full, prior to the hunt. One week before the hunt, a family emergency arose, and I was unable to make the hunt. I called Mr. Atcheson and explained what happened. Within a week, I had all the money I had paid, returned to me by Mr. Atcheson. I didn't expect to get a penny back, because according to my signed contract, I was well outside the trip cancellation refund period but Mr. Atcheson sent it back, in full along with a letter of condolence and a note asking that I keep his company in mind for any future hunting trips. I used him many times over the years since then, with no issues at all.

quote:

Originally posted by mikeh416Rigby:
This Blair guy seems like a real creep! This may be off topic, but not all booking agents are bad guys. Many years ago I booked my first out of state hunting trip, a trophy mule deer hunt, through Jack Atcheson Sr. from Montana. I paid the hunt in full, prior to the hunt. One week before the hunt, a family emergency arose, and I was unable to make the hunt. I called Mr. Atcheson and explained what happened. Within a week, I had all the money I had paid, returned to me by Mr. Atcheson. I didn't expect to get a penny back, because according to my signed contract, I was well outside the trip cancellation refund period but Mr. Atcheson sent it back, in full along with a letter of condolence and a note asking that I keep his company in mind for any future hunting trips. I used him many times over the years since then, with no issues at all.

These are the type of people I like to do business with. They could've stood by the letter of the contract but they made exceptions due to an emergency. In the long run their business is better off as they made a long term customer/friend and I'm sure you are a walking advertisement for them.

I had a similar situation with an outfitter in Africa where I became sick a week before the trip and could not make it. He held the funds until I was able to make the trip which was 2 years later. At the end of that trip when settle up time came he actually owed me money back as I had sent more then I had spent. And because of what he did for me I told him to keep it. I have now hunted with him 6 times.

BTT

TTT

There is someone selling bear and moose hunts on E-Bay,,is that Blair??

It's not surprising that Jeff Blair and Todd Rice worked together. Clowns

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Originally posted by drummondlindsey:
It's not surprising that Jeff Blair and Todd Rice worked together. Clowns

Clowns provide a service for those willing to pay for it; Blair and Rice do neither. More like thieves.

Bump

I get plenty of emails from Blair World Wide as well. Here is mine from yesterday. He advertises 50% savings!!!


Leopard & Cape Buffalo safari - 2 of the most dangerous in Africa. 15 days of 1X1 hunting. Available in Zimbabwe for 2015 & 2016

Elk (New Mexico) Archery 5 day hunt 2X1 available September 2014

Mid Asian Ibex - the most majestic of all the Ibex. Your price includes 7 full days of hunting and the trophy fee for 1 IBEX. Additional Ibex may be hunted for trophy fees. Escorted in 2014

Brown Bears on the Alaska Peninsula. 2014 hunts available in the Spring and 2015 hunts available in the Fall

Marco Polo Sheep - the most beautiful and highest ranging sheep hunt them while you can! 10 days 1X1 use Horses - it makes all the difference 2015 & 2016 hunts available. Hunt Price plus Trophy Fee. Call 928-779-2232 for details.

Lion & Cape Buffalo and Plains Game safari - 18 days of safari in Mozambique for $1700 per day. 2014 only.

Stone Sheep (British Columbia) 10 day hunt 1X1 horseback assisted available 2014 & 2015

Cape Buffalo & Plains Game safari - 10 days 1X1 hunting - openings 2014 & 2015

Bezoar Ibex in the Mountains of Turkey - 7 day hunting program for 2014 & 2015

Please call our offices at 928-779-2232 and speak with a Hunt Consultant to get further information on these great hunts. We do accept all forms of payment for deposits. If you are not looking for one of these hunts, call and put us to work on one of the other 700 hunts that we offer.

Join the Blair WorldWide Hunting Disc. Club - as a member get disc off the first hunt booked with Blair WorldWide Hunting and receive notifications of Disc and Cancellations from our Outfitters. Savings could be up to 50%. Call to join today, 928-779-2232 or click here to visit our website, http://www.blairworldwide.com Be sure to forward along to your hunting buddies.

Good Hunting!
Jeff, Sean, Ron, Jim, Audra, Maxim and Dutch

Well, this whole thread made a very long day go by a lot faster, heh, heh, heh. Not being any kind of hunter(just a shooter), it made for an interesting, fun read.
Traveled a lot during my time as a field engineer and got a chance to get up close (as in 15-20 feet) to moose and caribou as well as a few hundred yards from polar bear and musk ox. Incredible animals to see in the wild.
Wish I had thought to reach out to Saheed when I was in Abu for a couple of years.
To all those lucky enough to enjoy the wilds, stay safe and good hunting.

May be it is finally sinking in.

I no longer receive offers from them any more.