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Not sure why trying to smear someone from something in the past has to do with this ongoing drama?

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Originally posted by 505 gibbs:
With current information, perhaps we could get those pulling for Corey’s replacement hunt, pull for collecting cash value and forward it to his creditors? Anyone here been in or know someone who has been in the shit end of a bankruptcy? Had to deal with a judge telling them that they aren’t getting paid and have no recourse? Then seen the guy that fucked them living the life of Riley? Not sure if a thread like this would make it hurt worse or feel like a little justice. What do you think MJines and Dogcat?

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Originally posted by Cme:

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Originally posted by 505 gibbs:
With current information, perhaps we could get those pulling for Corey’s replacement hunt, pull for collecting cash value and forward it to his creditors? Anyone here been in or know someone who has been in the shit end of a bankruptcy? Had to deal with a judge telling them that they aren’t getting paid and have no recourse? Then seen the guy that fucked them living the life of Riley? Not sure if a thread like this would make it hurt worse or feel like a little justice. What do you think MJines and Dogcat?

Let me make this clear since you don’t have a fucking clue about me or the situation. I was 37 when I filed bankruptcy and it was forced because my company was put out of business due to governmental regulation changes. It was a business issue that I personally guaranteed. I offered to keep paying the creditor, which was the bank, and they decided it was easier for them to write said money off as a loss. It was my first business and I had a partner, it ended badly. I was literally broke and started over and built back up. I’m not ashamed, the most successful people that I know filed bankruptcy when they were younger.

While situation A doesn’t have anything to do with situation B it does matter how your handle things. Is there anything else you would like to know? If not please resume your shit talking? Just come get all of the facts first.

There is no reason to respond to Saeed, he has never lived in the real world. Not all of us as born with a literal gold spoon in our mouth.

I have made the offer multiple times for Saeed to reach out,but he has never done so. He sure does like to stir up shit. Why don’t you man up Saeed? Let’s have a phone call…I’m sure you can afford the minutes.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by Cme:

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Originally posted by 505 gibbs:
With current information, perhaps we could get those pulling for Corey’s replacement hunt, pull for collecting cash value and forward it to his creditors? Anyone here been in or know someone who has been in the shit end of a bankruptcy? Had to deal with a judge telling them that they aren’t getting paid and have no recourse? Then seen the guy that fucked them living the life of Riley? Not sure if a thread like this would make it hurt worse or feel like a little justice. What do you think MJines and Dogcat?

Let me make this clear since you don’t have a fucking clue about me or the situation. I was 37 when I filed bankruptcy and it was forced because my company was put out of business due to governmental regulation changes. It was a business issue that I personally guaranteed. I offered to keep paying the creditor, which was the bank, and they decided it was easier for them to write said money off as a loss. It was my first business and I had a partner, it ended badly. I was literally broke and started over and built back up. I’m not ashamed, the most successful people that I know filed bankruptcy when they were younger.

While situation A doesn’t have anything to do with situation B it does matter how your handle things. Is there anything else you would like to know? If not please resume your shit talking? Just come get all of the facts first.

There is no reason to respond to Saeed, he has never lived in the real world. Not all of us as born with a literal gold spoon in our mouth.

I have made the offer multiple times for Saeed to reach out,but he has never done so. He sure does like to stir up shit. Why don’t you man up Saeed? Let’s have a phone call…I’m sure you can afford the minutes.

What the hell are you talking about?

You have never contacted me in any manner!

And by the sound of it, you are not worth talking to!

Frankly, you sound like a bloody crooked IDIOT!

Bloody hell you come on a public forum and lie??

When did you EVER contact me??

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Hey super IDIOT.

This is the only communication we have EVER had with you!

You asked about a hunt!

And I answered you.

combo Leopard/Buff hunt. Price isn’t a concern. Can you make a recommendation regarding who I should look at?

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Saeed
posted 31 January 2022 05:41 Hide Post
I think you better ask on the forum, as I buffalo are not an issue, you can find one practically anywhere you hunt.

But leopards are not.

We had several leopards feeding on our baits last year, but we never saw one, despite sitting in the blinds many times.

I am almost certain that your best options are Zimbabwe, some places seem to have a very high success ratio.

Best of luck.

Saeed

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Originally posted by Saeed:

Bloody hell, this might be worthy of a Hollywood movie!!

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Let me make this clear since you don’t have a fucking clue about me or the situation. I was 37 when I filed bankruptcy and it was forced because my company was put out of business due to governmental regulation changes. It was a business issue that I personally guaranteed. I offered to keep paying the creditor, which was the bank, and they decided it was easier for them to write said money off as a loss. It was my first business and I had a partner, it ended badly. I was literally broke and started over and built back up. I’m not ashamed, the most successful people that I know filed bankruptcy when they were younger.

While situation A doesn’t have anything to do with situation B it does matter how your handle things. Is there anything else you would like to know? If not please resume your shit talking? Just come get all of the facts first.

There is no reason to respond to Saeed, he has never lived in the real world. Not all of us as born with a literal gold spoon in our mouth.

I have made the offer multiple times for Saeed to reach out,but he has never done so. He sure does like to stir up shit. Why don’t you man up Saeed? Let’s have a phone call…I’m sure you can afford the minutes.

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Originally posted by 505 gibbs:

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Let me make this clear since you don’t have a fucking clue about me or the situation. I was 37 when I filed bankruptcy and it was forced because my company was put out of business due to governmental regulation changes. It was a business issue that I personally guaranteed. I offered to keep paying the creditor, which was the bank, and they decided it was easier for them to write said money off as a loss. It was my first business and I had a partner, it ended badly. I was literally broke and started over and built back up. I’m not ashamed, the most successful people that I know filed bankruptcy when they were younger.

While situation A doesn’t have anything to do with situation B it does matter how your handle things. Is there anything else you would like to know? If not please resume your shit talking? Just come get all of the facts first.

There is no reason to respond to Saeed, he has never lived in the real world. Not all of us as born with a literal gold spoon in our mouth.

I have made the offer multiple times for Saeed to reach out,but he has never done so. He sure does like to stir up shit. Why don’t you man up Saeed? Let’s have a phone call…I’m sure you can afford the minutes.

Hmm, sounds like it’s exactly what it looks like Corey. Here’s a question: what story do you think Ibi tells when he speaks of this? Do you think he talks about fucking the careless American that had more money than sense? I doubt it, odds are he tells a story about a government that reissued a concession to him in one breath and took it away in the next after he had booked a season and invested in it. I bet he would talk about how the position he was put in and the fucking you took was completely out of his control. Sound familiar? Here is a fact, in the end, what he did to you is no different than what you did to your creditors. Perhaps, a pot applying some introspection is warranted before calling out another pot for calling the kettle black?

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Originally posted by the Pom:
Gentlemen. Let he who is without fault amongst you cast the first stone. Enough already!
Given how small the African hunting community is, there is a fair chances of meeting or even sharing a camp with anyone on this forum. How about just agreeing to differ and moving on to more constructive discussions?
This thread just gets nastier and more vindictive.
Corey is never going to get his money back from Ibi.
Andrew Baldry has no money.
Corey would probably never try and hunt with Mr Baldry in Zambia again even if Andrew waived his daily rate to try and give him some form of restitution.
All this discussion has achieved is the trashing of fellow hunters reputations so please, let's all move on to more amicable topics!

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Originally posted by Cme:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Hey super IDIOT.

This is the only communication we have EVER had with you!

You asked about a hunt!

And I answered you.

combo Leopard/Buff hunt. Price isn’t a concern. Can you make a recommendation regarding who I should look at?

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Saeed
posted 31 January 2022 05:41 Hide Post
I think you better ask on the forum, as I buffalo are not an issue, you can find one practically anywhere you hunt.

But leopards are not.

We had several leopards feeding on our baits last year, but we never saw one, despite sitting in the blinds many times.

I am almost certain that your best options are Zimbabwe, some places seem to have a very high success ratio.

Best of luck.

Saeed

Saeed, on April 3rd and April 9th I specifically said in this thread that you can contact me if want all of the correspondence. I said all it takes is a PM. Again, please continue with your rant…don’t let facts stand in the way of your opinions.

August 11th is a 3rd date where I offered to let you see everything. I can keep searching for more instances but that is 3 offers made specifically to you in a public manner.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by Cme:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Hey super IDIOT.

This is the only communication we have EVER had with you!

You asked about a hunt!

And I answered you.

combo Leopard/Buff hunt. Price isn’t a concern. Can you make a recommendation regarding who I should look at?

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Saeed
posted 31 January 2022 05:41 Hide Post
I think you better ask on the forum, as I buffalo are not an issue, you can find one practically anywhere you hunt.

But leopards are not.

We had several leopards feeding on our baits last year, but we never saw one, despite sitting in the blinds many times.

I am almost certain that your best options are Zimbabwe, some places seem to have a very high success ratio.

Best of luck.

Saeed

Saeed, on April 3rd and April 9th I specifically said in this thread that you can contact me if want all of the correspondence. I said all it takes is a PM. Again, please continue with your rant…don’t let facts stand in the way of your opinions.

August 11th is a 3rd date where I offered to let you see everything. I can keep searching for more instances but that is 3 offers made specifically to you in a public manner.

Why the hell would I wish to contact you in a private message?

You did.

ONCE!

And I answered you.

Why don't you post whatever you wanted to tell ME right here so others can see it!

-I think I’ll pass. There is a reason I have said cheerleaders. They have seen and read all of the correspondence. Whatever you may have seen has probably been edited. That’s why screen shots were taken.

You gleefully supported your cheerleaders having a go at Andrew.

You have no guts, no character, to go after Ibi.

-Hmmm sounds like a very educated statement by someone that doesn’t have a clue.

And now you have been shown to be a much worse individual than Ibi ever was, you take the same course as your cheerleaders, and in your instance start accusing me??

Boy oh boy!

You REALLY would have been a CHAMPION at a Jerry Springer show!

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Originally posted by the Pom:
Thank you KPoynter! Rare words on this forum and much appreciated.
Come on Saeed! Let's all give this a rest and live in peace. We might all be sitting around a campfire one evening with guns and knives to hand so let's all stop this now!

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by the Pom:
Thank you KPoynter! Rare words on this forum and much appreciated.
Come on Saeed! Let's all give this a rest and live in peace. We might all be sitting around a campfire one evening with guns and knives to hand so let's all stop this now!

I totally agree.

This thread should never have seen the light of day!

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Originally posted by theback40:
If bankruptcy is as sign of greatness, Ibi should be back with plenty of money soon, right?

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We do not agree that Baldry acted as his agent and facilitated this theft. Baldry had no known written agreement with Ibi that spells out his role as agent acting on Ibi's behalf. However, his actions indicate he is/was acting as an agent. He did all the things an agent does.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
I think we should demand that whoever took over half a million dollars of other people’s money should return it too!

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Originally posted by dogcat:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
I think we should demand that whoever took over half a million dollars of other people’s money should return it too!

Again, you are tossing smoke grenades... In the USA, bankruptcy is part of the business world. Sometimes things go bad due to no fault of the business owner. I do know the details, nor care to as that has NOTHING to do with this mess.

Stay on task. It is not that hard...

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Originally posted by dogcat:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
I think we should demand that whoever took over half a million dollars of other people’s money should return it too!

Again, you are tossing smoke grenades... In the USA, bankruptcy is part of the business world. Sometimes things go bad due to no fault of the business owner. I do not know the details, nor care to as that has NOTHING to do with this mess.

Stay on task. It is not that hard...

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Originally posted by Saeed:
I think we should demand that whoever took over half a million dollars of other people’s money should return it too!

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Originally posted by Charlie64:
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Saeed, Can a person - local or foreign - declare bankruptcy in Dubai and walk away from debt ? Generally interested.

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In the USA, bankruptcy is part of the business world. Sometimes things go bad due to no fault of the business owner.

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Originally posted by Charlie64:
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Saeed, Can a person - local or foreign - declare bankruptcy in Dubai and walk away from debt ? Generally interested.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by Charlie64:
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Saeed, Can a person - local or foreign - declare bankruptcy in Dubai and walk away from debt ? Generally interested.

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No.

Quite a few foreign individuals - those are normally who come here and try to make a quick buck - are still in jail.

Banks are very strict, and always demand their money back.

What CME has stated would not work here.

"...The most successful people he knows filed bankruptcy when younger.
Holy shit, I think Trump is on AR Saeed!!..."

All of these "successful" people would be rotting in jail!

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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In the USA, bankruptcy is part of the business world. Sometimes things go bad due to no fault of the business owner.

Wouldn't the same criteria be applicable anywhere else in the world, assuming the term "bankruptcy" is valid overseas and not just limited to the USA?

Cme filed bankruptcy because his business went up shit creek through no fault of his and the legal system covered his ass from being taken to task by his creditors.

Cme later bounced back financially and being a man bound by christian morals and principles, is to be assumed he made good with his creditors and was still able to pursue his favorite hobby and splash 80k on an extravagant African hunt.

While not being a fan of Ibi (I don't know the man from a bar of soap) I still deem his actions to have been suspiciously crooked but the same criteria could be applicable to anyone who declares bankruptcy as a way to get out of a financial mess legally.

Did Cme have a personal financial reserve? ... most likely but not related to the business so under no obligation to break the piggy bank.

Did Ibi have a personal financial reserve? ... also most likely.

Was it Ibi's intention to screw Cme? .. I don't think so as it stemmed from a totally unexpected result of a Government decision in denying him the rights to a concession he had been using without having screwed anyone in the past and a concession that Baldry and others were channeling hunts through.

Baldry may have heard of something not being right but must have been reassured by Ibi that all would would be well as is the African norm when a squabble over concessions comes into play.

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Originally posted by MJines:
. . . somebody’s crook meter needs recalibration. Hopefully they don’t rely on their crook meter to book their own hunts or they might find themselves out $80K. Although maybe the crook meter data is simply showing that with two crooks in Zambia, the reading is a solid 100%.