WEll, for what it is worth, watching this whole thing unfold, whether it was really swamp or not, if it was him, I think he may have a few valid points.

Howard - I see you as being a true gentleman who can be reasoned with.

Jimmy - you need some work (but I like your unending spirit)

If this really was Swamp, and if he were having some mental problems because of all of this, the proper thing would be to show a little respect for the situation, and not continue kicking a guy when he is down and almost out.

I cannot count the number of times I have had people tell me
"I just don't understand him" or "I just don't understand her". Well folks, the simple answer is that to really understand anyone else, all one has to do is understand oneself, because deep down inside we are mostly the same and mostly want and need the same things.

What happened here is, purely and simply, an escalation. It really doesn't matter who started it. It just got started. And then one person said something. And then another person said something. Then the first person got pissed and said something more. then the second person got pissed and said something more. then the third person chimed in and said something. then the fourth and the fifth, and on into the night. The testosterone kept flowing like a river in springtime, and by the time everything was over and done with nobody but nobody was really better off, and probably everybody was worse off.

You guys are all correct. It is none of my damn business, and it really doesn't matter to me if anyone goes back to Swamps site or not, or whether he lets anyone come back or not. I just hope that this entire exercise has shown how things can escalate and get out of hand, and how feelings can be hurt. I would hope that everyone would really think about that and step up to the plate such as Howard has done and attempt to try to stop the name calling and the foul langauge regardless of what anyone else is doing. As you learn when you are a child, just because the other kid jumped off the bridge doesn't mean you have to do so.

KJK

I know that I shouldn't enter into this, but I will anyway. There is no way that is Swamp posting on this thread. He writes in a manner that makes me think he is about to burst into tears at any moment. If you read his posts, they have a feminine emotional quality to them. Like he is always trying to appeal to your sensitive side.

At first, I thought it was the Swampster. But that last post was a bit much. I think someone is having a bit of fun.

Actually, I was shocked to see Swamp post at all, but now I'm afraid that he really hasn't after all....

Oh well.

"Will the real Swamp please stand up?"

This thread has been the best relief from the doldrums of checkering that I have had in a long time. My sides are just now recovering from the laughter.

One thing I can tell you, Jimmy may need some work but when you meet him you can't help but like the grizzled fart. Opps, make that elderly graying gas passer, lol.

Customstox

I just saw you on another thread stating the very same thing I said, which is to refrain from kicking a guy when he was down and out.

What brings laughter to you here?

I think I can answer for Chic. Its funny cause he knows what is really going on. Its pretty funny cause ol Swamper is hardly even the issue anymore.

And yes he still does need to stand on his own two feet and offer to meet half way.

In response to "Bill Mc in drag"

Jimmy, I am drug free. The last time I was dragged, I really wasn't dragged but was more or less "tossed" and landed on my backside.

After I was "tossed"

And Jimmy, I'm awaiting on that check That CZ, I mean that server fund needs it.

BillMc, when I first read your post I didn't have my glasses, thought it said you were drugged

Does that donation assure me the position of "adminastrato" at HA

Howard, if he is going to meet us halfway, I want to go on the tirp. By my dead reckoning, half way would put him in the middle of Lake Michigan. We can pick up Cayford and Ski bum on the way. I will bring my boat and you get a couple of cases of Alaskan Amber ..... hmmmm I am hearing echos of "homer likey" coming from Cayford. Bring 5 cases, make it 8. We will meet Swamp, drag a line and watch him dog paddle, or is it backpaddle. Whatever paddle he brings.

Blue you have been missing the fun on here taking this seriously. It is a lot funnier if you stand back and see what was happening.

Jimmy, when have you ever known swamp to write a post that had more than a dozen words and didn't have a link or 'cut-n-paste' in it?

No way this guy is swamp. But he sure is funny.

chic, real nice, going to the party half way and just cause as blue says, I need a little help, I'm not invited, whats up with this. I was gone for about two hours this afternoon as I stopped by the rehab center for a check up and it appears that I will be ok. They did agree with blue that I still need a little help but felt in another year or two that I would be allowed to live by myself, unsupervised, I was thrilled to say the least

blue, you are a great sport You took this topic to heights that will never be equalled. I admire the fact that you will speak what you feel knowing you will take alot of heat.
Even though you said I need help, you would always be welcome in my camp, jimmyd223

to hell with it. You guys are all nuts. I give up. There is no saving any of you. but I will have to admit its been fun. (Jimmy, I also said I admired your unbending spirit, and I am sure it is that spririt that is the reason why all of these other yahoos stick up for you so much)

Blue that's the spirit I knew you would come around. I told Jimmy he was wrong and that you where really an ok guy.

See that is the point, all us banned guys are good guys. Guys just like you, who like to talk guns and hunting and express and discuss opinions and different viewpoints like adults. Though we do reserve the right to poke fun and have fun with people who join the party but refuse to play by the rules. With Jimmy to lead the way we can stoop to any level to keep the playing field level.

Best wishes to you.

Jimmy glad to hear you will be ok.

blue, actually there is a reason I invited you to my hunting camp When I request to leave the county I live in I must have a responsable adult sign for my release and take responcability(sp) for me but I am getting better with the help of my internet friends

Damn, Jimmy, I knew I was forgetting someone. Ir you come we will likely have to get some hard stuff.

Chic,
Just leave your boat at home. That way you can carry more Alaskan Amber. I'll take my boat and pick you up in Milwaukee. I got a GPS for Christmas so I want to try a lake crossing this summer

God, this is like watching a daytime soap. "But Dr., how can you do an exam with both hands on my shoulders?"... (Cue dramatic music)..."Because I'm not really a doctor" ( Cue more dramatic music)..."I'm really the doctors evil twin brother"...(Cue more dramatic music, remove mask)..."SWAMP!!!" (Da Da Da Da!!!)

Blue, you seem like a good and patient man. Stick around.

Jeff

LMFAO - you boys have ALL lost your minds - completely! - ROFL........

You know this has given me a serious good idea here. Mid-July I think Chic, Howard, and Jimmy should all take a flight to Milwaukee. I will pick you up in Milwaukee and we will make the drive up to Two Rivers, WI where Jeff will pick us up. And we can fish in a Salmon derby. Beer is on Brasky.

-Mike

Can Blue come too? After all he owes me a steak dinner.

How about it there Ol Swamper, you up for it? I will even promise to not make fun of your blonde bombshell.

Howard you can go but please don't drag us with to any of your gay rights marches that you often frequent in Seattle.

Oh forget it

Howard, yes I will be there along with my goat as long as you will make sure you bring jimmyd223. I want to kick his ass. I am just hoping for a few more donations from my members so I will be able to cover the expence of the trip. thank you for the offer to join you fellows

SWAMPha

We need some demonstrative evidence that you are the real Swamp that I would so dearly like to talk to. If you are the real Swamp, go back to your site and respond to me on my thread there as Swamp with no ha behind your name. And if you are not the real Swamp please do not say you are.

blue, have you given any thought to the offer to go fishing with a bunch of us crazy ol'boys. I assure you that you would be safe!!!!!!! It would be a trip you would never forget

Blue you bring the steak I will grill them.

I would say fresh fish but with alvinmack along.......no way we are catching anything.

Howard, are you bringing any Tuna with? I don't care for steak.

This is how Howard Relaxes after a tough day at work

Posted by Swamp, �I don't need to fire 100 shots to know when a scope isn't holding... You can tell with a half dozen shots..�















�The holes in blk represent the vari x-iii 3.5-10..



The holes in white show the zeiss conquest 3-9 shots� Posted by Swamp.





�Hey Swamp I hate to bust your chops because I think you�re a heck of a nice guy, but I am going to do it anyway. Your last post saying that that was the only target you shot with the two scopes only reinforces my point. There is no way, with the testing you have done and presented to us, to prove anything about the scopes. To continue to beat your chest with your claims about the inability of the Conquest to hold zero really calls into question your integrity.� Posted be me.



Swamps reply, �Howard, How many shots does one need to show a scope isn't going to group.. I was shooting exceptionally careful and on an ideal day and couldn't get that thing to group..�



So you see? He admits he only shot on group the one above with a Zeiss conquest and that is proof that Conquest scopes don�t hold zero and his justification for continually knocking Zeiss every chance he gets. The Dakota thread was very similar only in that case Dakota could do no wrong. Think that has anything to do with Dakota being an advertiser? Think the Zeiss bashing has to do with their refusal to be an advertiser?



So you see Blue and others, it�s this kind of statements that were questioned and when we pressed for serious answers and didn�t accept cut and paste or silence good Ol Swamp brought out the ban button.

Once Dakota became a paid advertiser he deleted every derogatory remark that he ever made about them as well. This is very well documented and many posters remember his remarks that were very negative towards Dakota arms.

What is wrong with that? Enjoying the great outdoors after a long day at work. Calling up a 900 number and having a brew, all while giving birth to a Liberal.

Yep that is me, squeezing out a Bill Clinton.

Don't forget to clean the Hillary

Actually the guy looks eerily like Jimmy D

I know he likes to spend time up in mouth breather country.

RE HA thread

Blue yes you did try and you are a heck of a guy, the fact that you love costome guns counts for lots too.

so with that in mind I will not only grill the steak but brig them too. Top notch CAB stright off the feedlot.