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Well you know how the other day I was worried about empty spaces in the gun racks? Now I have gone totally nuts, I decided that I need to empty them even further. I went around yesterday morning and found 9 rifles of various things I had that I know I will never use again, never shoot, and will for sure never carry to the field. Some few basic stock rifles, most I had built by SSK Industries. Some are now on gunbroker. Things with 22-24 inch barrels, smaller bores like 9.3 Ultra, 9.3X338 Win, some 338s, and things like that. I don't want to turn this into the classified, and won't, but I am going to go down and try to get a few on the classified for our AR guys--they come first. Just FYI, moving down to classified and put a few on. Michael http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/default.html The New Word is "Non-Conventional", add "Conventional" to the Endangered Species List! Live Outside The Box of "Conventional Wisdom" I do Not Own Any Part of Any Bullet Company, I am not in the Employ Of Any Bullet Company. I do not represent, own stock, nor do I receive any proceeds, or monies from ANY BULLET COMPANY. I am not in the bullet business, and have no Bullets to sell to you, nor anyone else. | |||
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That's definately one way to take care of the empty slot issue.  Jim  "Life's hard; it's harder if you're stupid" John Wayne | |||
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Oh man, received the new GunKote 50 B&M Tuesday late--UPS pitched up here as I was locking the doors to go to roost at 7:45 PM---UPS running very late that day. I never even opened the thing until the next morning. Put it together yesterday, in it's new Accurate Innovations stock, and it looks great! Will try and get some photos of it, and it's twin the 475 B&M together today or tomorrow. When Brent and Oz were here the other day we gave the 475 a bit of shooting, but it was so rough I was sure I was going to have to send it back to Brian to sort out. I don't know how that gunkote gets in so many places, but now the rifle is starting to smooth out, its starting to work better, and the roughness seems to be moving on. I have seen this every single time, and in the beginning the rifle is not worthy of going to the field, it has to be worked in. Once it smooths out they become some of the slickest rifles I own, but you have to work it in a bit first! I think both of these are going to be incredible guns and I am very happy with them. Photos coming. Michael http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/default.html The New Word is "Non-Conventional", add "Conventional" to the Endangered Species List! Live Outside The Box of "Conventional Wisdom" I do Not Own Any Part of Any Bullet Company, I am not in the Employ Of Any Bullet Company. I do not represent, own stock, nor do I receive any proceeds, or monies from ANY BULLET COMPANY. I am not in the bullet business, and have no Bullets to sell to you, nor anyone else. | |||
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       http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/default.html The New Word is "Non-Conventional", add "Conventional" to the Endangered Species List! Live Outside The Box of "Conventional Wisdom" I do Not Own Any Part of Any Bullet Company, I am not in the Employ Of Any Bullet Company. I do not represent, own stock, nor do I receive any proceeds, or monies from ANY BULLET COMPANY. I am not in the bullet business, and have no Bullets to sell to you, nor anyone else. | |||
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Definately a looker!  Jim "Life's hard; it's harder if you're stupid" John Wayne | |||
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Even I like the grain flow of the termite food on that 50 B&M grip. I could live with that. | |||
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Michael. Are you charging fees for tours of the B&M museum and terminal bullet laboratory? You should. Just after I visit again  lovely guns there!577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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OOOHHH, Pretty!!! Just wanted to post these pics again, and again, and well, you get it. Very nice. | |||
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Excellent Job Stockbroker! I love both of them--I did not mention that both rifles come in dead on 7.5 lbs the way you see them now! They are lively and handle extremely well. Once I get that gunkote broken in and get a few hundred rounds through them they will damn near be perfect! Now, where is my Turkish and that 9.3 B&M? I think you are spending too much time on AR and not enough time getting my Termite Food Finished!!!!!! M http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/default.html The New Word is "Non-Conventional", add "Conventional" to the Endangered Species List! Live Outside The Box of "Conventional Wisdom" I do Not Own Any Part of Any Bullet Company, I am not in the Employ Of Any Bullet Company. I do not represent, own stock, nor do I receive any proceeds, or monies from ANY BULLET COMPANY. I am not in the bullet business, and have no Bullets to sell to you, nor anyone else. | |||
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I'm holding it hostage until you cry "uncle" and admit that my remingtons have something going for them. Doing something special to it now...you'll like. | |||
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You stand a better chance of waiting for HELL TO FREEZE OVER! http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/default.html The New Word is "Non-Conventional", add "Conventional" to the Endangered Species List! Live Outside The Box of "Conventional Wisdom" I do Not Own Any Part of Any Bullet Company, I am not in the Employ Of Any Bullet Company. I do not represent, own stock, nor do I receive any proceeds, or monies from ANY BULLET COMPANY. I am not in the bullet business, and have no Bullets to sell to you, nor anyone else. | |||
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HMMMMM???????? Better be good--Lot of folks will be looking at it! http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/default.html The New Word is "Non-Conventional", add "Conventional" to the Endangered Species List! Live Outside The Box of "Conventional Wisdom" I do Not Own Any Part of Any Bullet Company, I am not in the Employ Of Any Bullet Company. I do not represent, own stock, nor do I receive any proceeds, or monies from ANY BULLET COMPANY. I am not in the bullet business, and have no Bullets to sell to you, nor anyone else. | |||
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Cross, are you out there? Want to see your rifle? I have photos? HEH,,,, Should I make him suffer and ask? No way, Cross is a buddy! Here is your rifle--I have it!     Working the bugs out. Feeds and functions 100%, very excellent, anything you want to feed it. So far, does not jump the hump in the bottom metal--the follower spring! Very good. However, sending back up to Brian and let him smooth out that chamber a little bit, getting some sticky that I should not be getting, and I am not going to let Cross have it until I know its 110% good to go! Like I was saying on the other thread earlier today--rifles regardless of where they come from can and do have bugs that have to be worried with. You have to work these bugs, especially on a DGR more so than anything else. I have two crazy bugs now with that new 50 and 475 Gunkote rifles. The 50 worked fine yesterday, although I did not shoot it, it feeds, functioned, chamber great. Today, going to shoot it in, won't even chamber the rounds, same ones? Think something is stuck in the chamber, gunkote or something. Bugs! Have to work them, not all have bugs, but some do no matter what or who! Some days one should just not go to the range--its been one of those days! M http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/default.html The New Word is "Non-Conventional", add "Conventional" to the Endangered Species List! Live Outside The Box of "Conventional Wisdom" I do Not Own Any Part of Any Bullet Company, I am not in the Employ Of Any Bullet Company. I do not represent, own stock, nor do I receive any proceeds, or monies from ANY BULLET COMPANY. I am not in the bullet business, and have no Bullets to sell to you, nor anyone else. | |||
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That is a wicked little rifle MIchael! I dig the black bolt and the shiny collar. | |||
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Wooo Hooo I like the funky color scheme- I will be REAL hillbilly with this one-  Thanks much Michael for checking things out and making sure it runs--Like you am sure Brian can make it work. SSR | |||
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Nice color scheme for dry country hunting. Jim "Life's hard; it's harder if you're stupid" John Wayne | |||
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Boys, that little rifle is just "Wicked" looking I tell you. It does look good. Black gunkote on that stainless stands out and grabs you. Looks like serious business, wicked! Cross, yes, I spoke to Brian and sending plenty of ammo. He will sort it out, not to worry. Mine gotta go to Doc Brian as well! Just a thing! M http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/default.html The New Word is "Non-Conventional", add "Conventional" to the Endangered Species List! Live Outside The Box of "Conventional Wisdom" I do Not Own Any Part of Any Bullet Company, I am not in the Employ Of Any Bullet Company. I do not represent, own stock, nor do I receive any proceeds, or monies from ANY BULLET COMPANY. I am not in the bullet business, and have no Bullets to sell to you, nor anyone else. | |||
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The Hogs are scared already----  just imagine--basically a 45-70 in that itty -bitty package. SSR | |||
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Cross, 458 BM SS smokes 45/70 with lighter bullets--16 inch barrel, 295 BBW#13 NonCon--2510 fps, 55 gr LilGun 55000 PSI. Smoking! 300 TSX 47/Lilgun 2420 fps 61000 PSI. 325 BBW#13 Solid--46/Lilgun 2311 fps 57000 PSI. Only when we get to 400 gr bullets it starts to even out some at 1950 fps or so max. With that 295 BBW#13 at 2500 who needs a 400? Even at 2400 it's smoking! This is the reason I never will ever need or desire a 45/70 again. Pretty Neat I think! Michael http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/default.html The New Word is "Non-Conventional", add "Conventional" to the Endangered Species List! Live Outside The Box of "Conventional Wisdom" I do Not Own Any Part of Any Bullet Company, I am not in the Employ Of Any Bullet Company. I do not represent, own stock, nor do I receive any proceeds, or monies from ANY BULLET COMPANY. I am not in the bullet business, and have no Bullets to sell to you, nor anyone else. | |||
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The rifle package and cart performance of the 458 SS is phenom. It's truly worth the time and money IMHO to fuss with a wildcat. With the Non Con it shines all the more! It's one of the best wildcats to come out in recent times. Im grateful Michael did all the hard work to make that happen. When you hold the SS guns made like above they are so easy to carry and so lively. Hogs to bear to leopard i would want that set up with a red dot sight for quick reaction shots. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Boomy, Not quite a red dot but close--I am putting a trijicon 1.5x4 with the green triangle post on it. HEHE, like Michael I need a bit of magnification these days. the Green triangle trijicon is a very fast scope---fun to shoot. SSR | |||
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It would be interesting to see a 348 Super Short. With the shorter tip to crimp bullets and the functional impact velocity envelope combined with 358 win capacity you are talking about duplicating the 348 Win/358 Win in a 6.5 LB handy package. 180 to 250 grain bullets could cover a lot of game and distance. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Cross I did get the scope mounted on QRW Rings. I did not shoot it however as my first order of business was to work with the irons, best I could anyway! Once we get to the triangle post Trijicon, I can give you more feed back on it. For me, just throwing it up and putting on a critter works great, but I find each time I have the point high on the target and the fat part of the triangle as a point of aim. I think it is supposed to be the point of the triangle. I would have to work with that a lot to get used to it, or lets say, "Get the Point" of things! HEH........... Now boomy, if you have the 458 BM SS why would you want LESS? Problem is, in that WSSM magazine you would never get the bullets seated proper to fit the magazine, they are too long, even just dropping to 416 you limit what you can use. In 458 B&M Super Short, you can forget larger than 400 gr bullets to be effective. In the 475 B&M I have not worked with anything larger than the CEB and North Forks that are designed specifically for it. In the 50 BM SS you can work with the 500 Hornady easy at 1700 fps. As caliber goes down you start to get very limited as to what you can work with. There won't be anything less than a 458 B&M Super Short. Not from this side anyway. M http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/default.html The New Word is "Non-Conventional", add "Conventional" to the Endangered Species List! Live Outside The Box of "Conventional Wisdom" I do Not Own Any Part of Any Bullet Company, I am not in the Employ Of Any Bullet Company. I do not represent, own stock, nor do I receive any proceeds, or monies from ANY BULLET COMPANY. I am not in the bullet business, and have no Bullets to sell to you, nor anyone else. | |||
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2510 fps out of a 16 inch gun with a 295 grain Non Con WOW. | |||
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Michael I have the identical scope on the 416 and am loving it, very fast yet still precise-personally I haven't run into the problem you describe-I just balance the target on the tip of the triangle- last shot I made was on a very large feral dog, running ,at @160 yards. Works for me-might not be every-ones cup of tea(or Grey Goose) SSR | |||
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I've got the 1.25X4 Triangle and Post Trijicon on my 9.3X74R Double. I recently did this exact thing on a Black Bear. At the range, no problem. Just put the tip at 6 O'Clock. But on the Bear, covered the sweet spot with the red glowing thing. Hit high and spined him. I like the scope a lot but I need to shoot more critters with it before I can learn to instinctively put the tip at 6 O'Clock of where I want it to hit said critter. Paper, no problem. Critter, look out spine shot! | |||
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Todd and Cross Yes, Todd, that is exactly what I am doing throwing up and the tip is high as my eyes are trying to use the biggest part of the triangle. I think it's just something one trains himself for is all, and has to put a bit more effort into learning how to use it. Me, No, I am staying with good old traditional cross hairs--I am too ignorant to start training my poor ass eyes to see something else! I have a trijicon with the little dot and cross hairs. It is holding up well, shoots well, clear, light, looks good on the rifles, mechanically moves and works as it should, zero issues. I am not sure mine is working right, when you turn the adjustment for light, my dot goes out, nothing left--is it supposed to do that, or does it retain some residual brightness? Too lazy to RTB--Read The Book! HEH........ M http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/default.html The New Word is "Non-Conventional", add "Conventional" to the Endangered Species List! Live Outside The Box of "Conventional Wisdom" I do Not Own Any Part of Any Bullet Company, I am not in the Employ Of Any Bullet Company. I do not represent, own stock, nor do I receive any proceeds, or monies from ANY BULLET COMPANY. I am not in the bullet business, and have no Bullets to sell to you, nor anyone else. | |||
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Michael, I'm a real fan of the Trijicon scopes. Right now, I'm having a hard time convincing myself to buy anything other than. Have two of the 3X9X40's with the amber dot on crosshairs. Man, those are the cats ass. As a matter of fact, the one on my Ruger #1 in 300H&H is what claimed that "Cat's Ass" last year on my Leopard hunt. Great scope for low light conditions. The post and triangle I think is very fast for a large bore rifle on DG. Like you said, just a matter of training and experience IMO. In other words, I just need to shoot more critters and less paper with it to become totally proficient. Shootin mo critters is always a good thang!  Opening the slide to expose more of the fiber optic should cause the dot to glow brighter. Closing it down will make it appear to completely go away, except in total darkness (or near total) as you will then be able to see it glow from the little chip of Tritium inside. I can't discern any Tritium glow if not in a completely dark environment. The best thing of all about these scopes: NO BATTERIES! | |||
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Michael, 348 bullets for the 348 Win are shorter tip to crimp and should work in a WSSM. I think they are about .53" tip to crimp so they should work. Want less? No!! Just different. Shooting 180-250 grain bullets faster and flatter than .458" bullets. 180 grain bullets at 2,700-2,800 and 250's @ 2,300 would be sweet. A 180 grain non con 348 could be quite persuasive. The advantage over a 458 SS is another 100 yards range for deer ect. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Todd It's been maybe two years now, since I busted a bunch of Leupolds, and decided to check some other scopes out. The 1X4 Cross Hair Trijicon was one of those. I think I had 4-5 different scopes I tried, the Trijicon and the Nikon African were the only two that passed my tests here, so far with flying colors, have not busted either of them. To give you an idea of what I am talking about, in an 18 month period I busted 13 Leupold scopes. I always have from 2-4 of them busted and on the bench to send in. I just got 3 back a few weeks ago, now I am only up to 1 on the bench to send back now. Funny we are talking about this--This afternoon I have spent the last couple of hours pulling Leupold scopes off the rifles, removing the QRW rings, and getting them ready to hit the market, I am having a Leupold Sell out. I am currently up to 13 scopes to move out and get replaced. On the Trijicons I think I am going to pass on the post and triangle thing. You know it's hard to teach an old bastard like me anything new! HEH........ I do like the one with the cross hairs however, it has a lot going for it. I have also taken quite a shine to these Nikons as well. Figure if it gets dark I will just turn the lights on! HEH HEH............. I carry plenty of duct tape with me and my sure fires, just duct tape the sure fire to the barrel and go on! Works great!  http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/default.html The New Word is "Non-Conventional", add "Conventional" to the Endangered Species List! Live Outside The Box of "Conventional Wisdom" I do Not Own Any Part of Any Bullet Company, I am not in the Employ Of Any Bullet Company. I do not represent, own stock, nor do I receive any proceeds, or monies from ANY BULLET COMPANY. I am not in the bullet business, and have no Bullets to sell to you, nor anyone else. | |||
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I have been using the triangle post for a yea now on my 416 B&M.. It may just be that i am use to it but I hate going back to crosshairs on short range rifles now. Am looking forward to trying the crosshair dot in 3x9 for longer ranges/lighter rifles. As Todd says---NO BATTERIES- Esp like the triangle in low light- hog hunting , etc. anyway for me-the tip of the triangle comes up and touches the target-if anything I shoot low with it As stated, I will never pass on practice so I wanted the same scope on the 458 that I will be playing with here as the 416 that is going to Africa--keep my eye lined up! SSR | |||
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Cross Yes, I think I would just have to get used to it is all. I can't really make much of a judgment as I only had it on your rifle for a few minutes, threw it up maybe 5-6 times. Hardly enough to justify anything. I imagine after I get it on your rifle and start shooting I could get used to it then. You are correct, both rifles set up the same, everything equal, regardless of equipment. With everything the same, you won't hesitate and either way you are familiar with the system you use. M http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/default.html The New Word is "Non-Conventional", add "Conventional" to the Endangered Species List! Live Outside The Box of "Conventional Wisdom" I do Not Own Any Part of Any Bullet Company, I am not in the Employ Of Any Bullet Company. I do not represent, own stock, nor do I receive any proceeds, or monies from ANY BULLET COMPANY. I am not in the bullet business, and have no Bullets to sell to you, nor anyone else. | |||
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For those of you who do not know I purchased a 500MDM from Michael a week or so ago. I had been looking for a new DG weapon and had followed all the threads on B&M cartridges, yes I read every thread. I was very intriqued with the short barrell as well as the non con bullet, these were ideas I had about weapons a few years back. These guys have the brains to figure this stuff out. Anyway, I have been walking around the yard, I live in the bush, with the weapon and just picking out an object, tree,stump....and throwing up and taking aim. I am 49 and have been hunting since I was 8 or 9. I have owned 30 plus rifles and shot a hundred more or so, and I have to say this is the most naturally pointing weapon I have ever owned. Every time I throw it up the bead is in the cradle, and 80% of the time it is precisely in the rear sight with NO adjustment needed. I am telling you guys these rifle are amazing. You owe it to yourself to give on a go. If you anywhere close to northern VA you are more than welcome to come by and fire my new beast! | |||
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Brent, Curious minds want to know...what stock is on your beast? And congratulations on the last rifle you'll ever need! | |||
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It is a walnut stock, of course an AI I believe teh shadow line is what you guys call it. Whatever was on it for Michael. You may be correct in last rifle I will ever NEED, however, a man can invent new needs to satisfy his wants  I plan on getting a 9.3 B&M soon and would like a really special stock maybe a beautiful piece of myrtle. | |||
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Brent, You don't know how much your words mean to me. What you have said, makes all the countless 1000s of man hours I have put into the B&Ms, the 10s of 1000s of bullets tested, and gone downrange to make sure the B&Ms and the .500s have proper bullets, and the many 10s of $1000s of dollars, literally I have in the project worth every bit of effort I have done. This is what they are all about. And the very reason they exist. They are the very best handling DGR I have ever laid hands on, and this is what they are for. It's a package deal--Platform (rifle), Cartridge, and the Bullets. One must have it all. It does us no good to have a small rifle, if we don't have a powerful enough cartridge to do the job. It does us zero good to have a small rifle, and the cartridge, without the proper bullets. We see all the time, far more powerful cartridges, but the damned platform weights 10-12 lbs, long as a football field, and totally useless for proper handling qualities, slow to work, slow on target, and don't carry for crap. I think we have the right combination of all things combined in the B&M packages to do the job proper. The concept has proven itself for me and I will never go back to anything else again. You too have the only 19 inch 500 MDM! It does handle very good. I know! Wes, this is Brents rifle--I am sure you remember this stock, I took a fancy to it myself when you sent it! HEH............. It actually looks better than the photos--it is a hard stock to get a proper photo on for me and my little digital camera. I Believe the professionals took some photos of this rifle when they setup to take photos for the DVD. That would be some super photos, but I have not seen them yet.   http://www.b-mriflesandcartridges.com/default.html The New Word is "Non-Conventional", add "Conventional" to the Endangered Species List! Live Outside The Box of "Conventional Wisdom" I do Not Own Any Part of Any Bullet Company, I am not in the Employ Of Any Bullet Company. I do not represent, own stock, nor do I receive any proceeds, or monies from ANY BULLET COMPANY. I am not in the bullet business, and have no Bullets to sell to you, nor anyone else. | |||
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Man the rifle is almost complete, it is just short that sexy sling. I swear I hear crying at nite somemoanings about missing his mate! | |||
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Brent, you echo my own sentiments and have articulated them far better than i have been able to. I received my own .500 M.D.M earlier this year and have also been going through the sighting and familiarisation process as you are and am absolutely stunned with the handling characteristics of these firearms. Mine is the longer barrel, (20"), musket version of your but virtually identical and as you have found I beleive this to be "the duck's nuts" ! There is simply no substitute for actually handling these firearms. I've said it here before but here I go again, my sincerest gratitude to Mike for developing the .500 M.D.M buffalo crusher and for housing it in such a neat package. And yes, Accurate Innovations really does know how to properly stock a big bore ! I'm looking forward to giving mine a serious work out in the feild begining shortly. | |||
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Brent, No need to make it your last; just that you know all the rest are just luxuries. Have some fantastic myrtle in just now; don't delay. If you're serious about the 9.3 I'll be putting one up for sale when SSK finishes it next month. Just sayin... | |||
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Mostly wanted to see these photos posted again. I remember the stock very well. They are like children...allright well, you understand. We'll build you another as a consolation prize, okay? | |||
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