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It's June! Whats the good word? Will I be getting my CM 505 Gibbs boltface action this month? Sure hope so. I keep lookin at a CZ in 505 Gibbs for $2600 at a local shop and it's wearing me down. They have one in 450 Rigby, 416 Rigby and one in 404 Jeff as well. It's killin me. | |||
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Well, they sold the 505 Gibbs and 450 Rigby. They moved pretty quickly too. 404 and 416 still there though. I sure hope Jeff has some fantastic news this Friday. | |||
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Wish I would get a single response to any of my emails to Jeff or posts here regarding the stainless steel action. NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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So the story is basically over. Am I reading this right? They shipped all the regular steel actions with the 505 bolt face (FILLED ALL THE ORDERS ???) and working on the rest?? Or what does that mean exactly? If this is true, then I am very glad to see a small business make this happen and in a very bad economy. They were lucky to have dedicated (gun nuts) and patient (within reason) customers stand by them all those years. Again, if I read this right, we now have a reasonable price alternative to the CZ for building big bore rifles, with a little more space for the really big cases  Next is too see what AHR can make of this opportunity, hopefully including a non rebated 577 class ctg. | |||
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FB -- in a word, no, not all orders ahve been filled opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I thought he was refering to the 505 and 450 CZ rifles in his local shop being sold, not the PH actions. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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Tiggertate...you are correct. A local shop had those rifles mentioned and sold within days. MRC is losing money to CZ every day he stalls on getting big bore actions into the market. There are plenty of people out there looking for these actions/rifles and with the economy picking up if I were him I would be cranking them out right now. | |||
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My bad,...  It would have been nice. So; at least we got CZ then. | |||
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Jeff has not updated in awhile, so I guess it is business as usual. Another problem and another couple of months. | |||
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I talked to Jeff last week, he is fine tuning some parts,waiting on a new follower for the 505 and some other things.He wants it right when they go out.I am not a spokesman for MRC but just passing on what I gathered from our phone call. Jeff wants this done as bad as you do, and he wants it right. I will tell you that the weight and balance of the PH action and the Montana rifleman barrel is perfect for the 505 in a CZ mag style stock. I haven't bench it at a 100 yards yet,but have shot it offhand at 25yrds and 50yrds with 3 shots touching a 1" dot most of the time, I held over a clay pigeon at two hundred yards about 6-8 inches and blew it apart first shot. I got it feeding OK,but not well enough for a DG hunt, I am waiting on the new follower to fine tune. I like the feel fit and accuracy of the set up, it just need some fine tuning. A good gunsmith with more experience would have it up and running by now, but half the fun is me getting it to work! JD DRSS 9.3X74 tika 512 9.3X74 SXS Merkel 140 in 470 Nitro | |||
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Sorry I have been busy the last few weeks so I have not had a chance to post. We are having an issue right now with the feeding. We were not aware of it until JD had mentioned that the follower we are using was not working and that he was using a different one. But if it weren't for feedback like this we couldn't change the things we need to make a better prouct. We have been addressing this and actually have a new design like our new followers on our Short and Long actions and hope to have this fixed ASAP. We have sent a few out with the old followers but the amount of hand fitting we have to do for feeding...I'm not sure it's worth it? But the new design should work well. Again, feel free to come visit. We have had several of the PH Customers who are waiting, stop in to see the receivers and the progress and we don't mind that a bit. At least maybe seeing it and knowing that they are actually finishing may ease some worries? I may not check this again for a while, I just had an extra minute so I thought I had better get on here. Jeff | |||
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Thanks for the update Jeff. It sure is appreciated. | |||
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Feeding issues may or may not be as problematic as I first thougth, it is amazing what a good machinist can help with. Still going forward with new followers though. Ed can you get me 3-4 dummy rounds of your stuff to feed check them as well? JD, we actually have some 577 NE rounds here but if you were going to send some of the 505 Gibbs dummy rounds, the more we have the better. Jeff | |||
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Jeff--I'll get you 4 dummy rounds of my 585HE out tomorrow. Ed MZEE WA SIKU | |||
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So the firing pin availability problem has been resolved and now it's a matter of fine tuning the follower? Any fair estimate on when my stainless steel PH might ship? NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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I'll Double down on CCMDoc's post. Any Idea when my actions will ship?-Rob Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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Rob, I will guess, during the seconf week of next month, on the second Tuesday of the week. ' Seems like Jeff will always have an excuse for the delay. This "feeding issue" should of been dealt with during the proto type develepment, not after the production has started. I hope all of you that have ordereed these PH actions FINIALY get them. I am glad I am not in line with you. Keith IGNORE YOUR RIGHTS AND THEY'LL GO AWAY!!! ------------------------------------ We Band of Bubbas & STC Hunting Club, The Whomper Club | |||
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There are no issues with the .416 Rigby actions are there? I would love to get mine. | |||
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Jeff I am out of town, my daughter has just given birth to my first grandson. When I get back I make you up some dummies. I have a couple of loaded rounds with me if that would help. You could pull the striker from the bolt. JD DRSS 9.3X74 tika 512 9.3X74 SXS Merkel 140 in 470 Nitro | |||
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Did you get it yet? Sounds like the only hold up on the "BIG" bolt-face actions was the followers so yours should be in your (or your FFL's) hands by now. NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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No, I did not get it yet. No word from them on anything. | |||
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Somewhere I remember (I think) that the Gibbs bolt faces were being run first, then the Rigby, then the Magnums. Les | |||
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Les - Assuming you are correct, does that mean if there are problems with the Gibbs actions feeding that it will delay the shipment of the others, Rigby & Magnums? I have a SS Rigby on order and hope to see it before 1 Jan 2011. That seemed reasonable back in March-April when the only issue was firing pins. Now that this feeding problem has cropped up, not sure if I'll see it until summer of next year. Kevin  | |||
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mine is sitting at AHR as we speak... One of them is. CM Gibbs version. Rich 600 Overkill in process | |||
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Just a thought. I have faith in Jeff getting this done. Enough so that I have both a 416 Rigby and 505 Gibbs CZ rifles. I would work a trade for your action and some $$$ for one of mine. Rich DRSS I have faith... | |||
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Jeff, any updates???Feeding issues resolved? Gibbs actions now shipping? | |||
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Woodrow S, Any response (at least via PM or email)? Idaho Sharpshooter, Any chance you can get a hold of Jeff and ask on our behalf where things are and an update on timeframe? I'd love to know a rough estimate on when I might see my stainless steel PH action for my next 600OK. NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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Isn't that what Jeff has been doing now for several years???? Giving "roiugh" estimates on delivery. Good luck guys Keith IGNORE YOUR RIGHTS AND THEY'LL GO AWAY!!! ------------------------------------ We Band of Bubbas & STC Hunting Club, The Whomper Club | |||
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I'm still holding my breath! Feels like an awfully long time.-Rob Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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How long does it take to type an update? 15 seconds? 30 seconds? 45 seconds? maybe a minute. | |||
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First you have to have something to say.... "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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Wow! Seven pages of reading material, I'm still waiting on mine, two deployments, and two duty stations later. I'm sure the wait will be worth it. Now to remember what was I going to build? V/R Leon Chovan US Army and going strong! | |||
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Above was from February 13th NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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Rob, you turning BLUE yet?  Keith IGNORE YOUR RIGHTS AND THEY'LL GO AWAY!!! ------------------------------------ We Band of Bubbas & STC Hunting Club, The Whomper Club | |||
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OK sorry it has been so long. Firing pin issue has been resolved. Follower issue is being resolved. All CM Gibbs action customers will be getting a call to make sure FFL and and Barreling information is finished as well as about 20-25 of the CM Rigby customers. If you are in this category and don't get a call from me in the next two weeks please call and ask for me, don't ask for anyone else please, just me. I have been in the midst of the new stock offereing the last 4 weeks and trying to finish it up so the company can grow and be healthier. I apologize if you feel neglected but I have to finish this up. The feeding issue I believe is solved and we are running a few more sample followers to make sure. After hearing from a few of the guys who got the first ones, JD included, that their action did not feed perfect I HAD to do this to make sure no others will have the same issue. Jeff | |||
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opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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