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RodneyH, I will buy your place in line at the original price if we can figure out how to do it. I know that Jeff said he would prefer we go through the company to do that, I would prefer that also. I'll send you a PM to follow up. If we can figure it out Monday, I'll send funds to arrive with you by the end of the week.

Jeff, keep at it, it'll work out.

dave
 
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I think there are enough guys to buyout folks
and when you do, you call MRC let them know
who you are getting it from, and also that
person send them a letter stating the action
is yours and send you a letter/email saying it is yours.
And that is it. I did 4 extras that way.ED


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Rodney: just for that I am not going to let you shoot mine in .600 OK at the H-n-S this fall!!
And you better not whine, either!!

Rich
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This has been a rollercoaster for the better than 7+ years of waiting. I did find the letter sent to me (not my ffl dlr) from Montana Rifle Company regarding an update on my order for the "PH" dated 4-14-09. This will hopefully get sorted out when the dealer that I involved in this for the transfer contacts someone at mrc who can verify my order, confirm specifications and hopefully a better answer concerning delivery than "just a few more months" and if there is any run-around on this then a refund will be demanded. Although "Lindsey" could not verify or acknowledge me as the customer the ffl holder that I involved can and I will inconvenience him with that.
Mr. Sipe, find my order, verify it and let me know as it is valid.
Rodney.



 
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Rodney

I am sure its all going to work out. I spoken to Jeff only 3 times, he seems like a stand up guy. Once you supply him with something he can work with it will get straight. Life's too short don't let this work on you.

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RodneyH,

Did you get your order straightened out to your satisfaction? I'm serious about buying it if you want to sell. I'll even go one better to reduce your risk. I'll buy a second action from Jeff under his 2 for 1 offer, and sell it back to you at the intro price. Can't lose there, you give up all the risk, and keep the price on the action when they deliver.

I sent you a PM at the same as my first post also.

dave
 
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SSDave,

my kind of guy here!

Rodney this is just like a sore wienie, you can't beat it!!

Rich
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I'm glad that I noticed this thread! Man, I remember back at least a year or two when there was going to be a group buy on them to no avail. I'm interested in a PH action for my current long-throated .338 Lapua Improved (they offer a 4.043" mag!), but now, I have my doubts about ordering an action, and I JUST came from there website to here!!! shocker


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Last update 2 April.

Suppose to be getting updates weekly.

It started out that way but as time passes the updates grow less frequent.
 
Posts: 212 | Location: Longmont, CO | Registered: 30 July 2005Reply With Quote
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I just posted last week on another thread, did it get missed? Sorry, maybe I'll just start a new one each week? Same thing, no new news, should have pins by mid May and then off to heat treat, give that a week...ok maybe two just in case and then we will be assembling them and shipping Gibbs first, then Rigby's then Standard Magnums.
 
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Thanks for the update. I am really looking forward to getting my custom 505 Gibbs built. A dream I have had for a long time.
 
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Leaving for the hoot and shoot with mine ready to shoot, but not quite done, need bluing and a little stock finish and some tuning for a feeding issue.

JD


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... shipping Gibbs first, then Rigby's then Standard Magnums.


Jeff, do you have any information to share on the stainless actions?
 
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JD, Thanks for bringing your 505 Gibbs to the Hoot & Shoot!


When he shot the rifle everything including the shooting benches shook!


Rusty
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I noticed after the 3rd shot all my hair was gone.

Its no worse than my 470, the load was a 140 grs of rl 25 and the Barnes tsx and banned solids at 2150fps (according to the Barnes latest reloading manual). The tsx and the banded solids shot to the same point at 25 yards


I had a lot of fun letting every one who wanted too shoot it. I heard several "that was not that bad" and saw a couple of expression that implied " I am OK and I think liked it but am not sure yet"

The best part was most ever body hit what they were shooting at!

I am still kind of embarrassed about the soft paint, that paint was still soft at 36 hours.


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Nice! Real nice to see an action purpose built for the Gibbs and to meet DG hunters needs.

Hopefully no more complaints about bolt thrust BS and marginal bolt face diameter. And, What a great platform for one of the 577 calibers.

When and if, supply/demand issues ever quiet down, it will be real interesting to see what AHR can offer around this action. And what happens to pricing long term. Unfortunately, I think I am learning why custom actions cost so much money. I do appreciate the CZ550 even more than ever - but this action will be a very exciting product.

I wonder will the TREX fit.

I still dream of available brass and general acceptance a 3 +/- inch long belted strait case 577 aka Hubel 577/585. I guess like 458Lott, I may have to wait another 50 years on that one.
 
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Better to do my 585HE. Mag box
is perfect width for that.
And case same length loaded as Gibbs.
Imagine easy moderate loads of
750gr at 23-2500.I got some brass and
a few more get into it and we can get a
big run of cases made.Ed


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Anybody get their actions lately? What is the deal? Should be gettin very close to regular shipping schedule of actions.
 
Posts: 4115 | Location: Pa. | Registered: 21 April 2006Reply With Quote
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If the latest update is accurate, actions won't start getting shipped in quantity until the first of June.
 
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Update?

Did firing pins arrive?

Are the actions being heat treated yet?

Inquiring minds would like to know.

Thanks. Wink
 
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Hey guys, Sorry my head has been elsewhere. We are in the process of finishing up a Private Equity Offering...did I already say that here? Anyhow been with Accountants, Attorneys, bla bla bla...oh and had a little outpatient surgery last week...no more kids...feels like someone has been kicking me in the balls for 5 days straight...which isn't much different then I feel after getting off the phone with some of you..hahaha..kidding. ANYHOW....got 30 pins out of 100 that measured good. Sent them to heat Treat. That's not good numbers as far as QC and sent the rest back but I covered my basis this time and I have another company producing them as well...will probably have about 600 extra PH actions when this is finished. Now, everybody cross your fingers, pray, whatever else you do, that they come back from heat treat good. And then we are running production. One other thing, we have decided to machine the double square bridge with dovetails to fit the Talley Ring set. I got the info from them and my Engineer changed that in the prints. I will see if I can get that done on these runs if some of you want, but let me know please. We may also do some 8-40 holes as well but I just don't want to cheapen it with having too much stuff on it? What do some of you guys think? My good friend Jon Sundra suggested just the dovetails as he felt it made it more of a classy action that way. Oh and thank you all for your patience.
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I have a CM action w/505 boltface on your order list and I would want mine with the double square bridge machined dovetails for the Talleys. Would you happen to know where I stand on the list? Thanks for the updates.

Woodrow Seiders

PS- I darn near bought a CZ Safari in 505 Gibbs yesterday...patience man.....patience.
 
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Dovetails for me! On the one on order and the extra I'll order on your offer.
 
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On a really hard kicking, overkill, type rifle it is hard to get the scope forward enough with a dovetail in the action. The tally dovetail sounds good, 'if' they offer an offset ring or gimmick to get an extra inch eye relief on the big 50's and over. For us weak shoulder guys.

There are several 4.5 to 5.0 eye relief scopes but a Leupold or better yet Weaver base is needed to push them forward enough.

My 4c adjusted for inflation.
 
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I would like 8-40 holes for a picatinny rail on my SS action w/Rigby bolt face.

What sort of hole spacing were you planning to use? Can I get the rail from you as well?

Kevin Prewitt
 
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Ken Farrell has offered to make a Rail for the PH and I just need to get him the actual hole spacing that we decide on. There is no other action like it so it's not like we can pick one and say go with it. We just to be sure. One other option we thought about was to do both and include screws for the holes if you don't use them, but this is where I wasn't sure if it would just be "too much"? Any other comments and suggestions would help.
Jeff
 
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Why not offer the full package holes and bases. If someone doesn't want it done then have them give you a heads up. I have one on order and was planning on letting it go when I got it because I don't need another open sighted gun. With a rail I might turn it into a barrett 98 style rifle. I like having the work done up front. I think only custom gunsmiths are going to say anything the rest of us I think want to maximize our choices or at least I do.

Thanks Brad Smiler
 
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How about this:

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx...u/_416_Magnum_Action


Dave
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Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL
Krieghoff 500/.416 NE
Krieghoff 500 NE

"Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer"

"If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition).
 
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I'd prefer to have dovetails and no holes drilled on my SS PH.

Jeff, any general idea on the SS actions?

Thanks


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I'd prefer to have dovetails and no holes drilled on my SS PH.

Jeff, any general idea on the SS actions?

Thanks


Doc, you mean like a CZ? Smiler


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Chapuis 9.3X74
Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL
Krieghoff 500/.416 NE
Krieghoff 500 NE

"Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer"

"If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition).
 
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I'd prefer to have dovetails and no holes drilled on my SS PH.

Jeff, any general idea on the SS actions?

Thanks



Doc, you mean like a CZ? Smiler


Yes, only stainless steel - that's what I am waiting on for my next 600OK. SS action and barrel, laminate stock. tu2


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Doc, if you are interested, I have a brown laminate stock that was taken off my .416 Riby when Wayne did a makeover on it. I should have it back this week. You could just pick up a moly CZ action and have Wayne put a stainless barrel on it. I'll make you a deal Big Grin


Dave
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Chapuis 9.3X74
Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL
Krieghoff 500/.416 NE
Krieghoff 500 NE

"Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer"

"If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition).
 
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Since the subject of CZ came up. Let me point out CZ offers a weaver base BUT! It used a screw on the side to hold it in place and the result is a very high base. It looks like an after thought, which it was. The scope ends up high.

This is a great time too consider scope mounting and if workable screws and dovetail would be great. That assumes a weaver base could slide over (into) the dovetail and be bolted from the top. The goal - a neat appearance and low profile base.

Calling it a PIT- Cannary is mistake. Speaking for myself only. I am not looking for a black Rambo gun. Just the mounting flexibility of a weaver base.
 
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fourbore:

Burris also makes a set of rings/bases for a CZ.


Dave
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Chapuis 9.3X74
Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL
Krieghoff 500/.416 NE
Krieghoff 500 NE

"Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer"

"If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition).
 
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http://www.burrisoptics.com/xtrrings.html

I dont see a CZ550 base. Is shown in the above line? "XTB Weaver-style Solid Steel Bases" I used the Burris Z ring to get the elevation I needed but went with a CZ full length weaver base.
 
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fourbore:

You can find them all over. I have a set that I got from Midway. Here is the link:

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewp...productnumber=812313


Dave
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Chapuis 9.3X74
Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL
Krieghoff 500/.416 NE
Krieghoff 500 NE

"Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer"

"If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition).
 
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Doc, if you are interested, I have a brown laminate stock that was taken off my .416 Riby when Wayne did a makeover on it. I should have it back this week. You could just pick up a moly CZ action and have Wayne put a stainless barrel on it. I'll make you a deal Big Grin


Dave,
Love ya for the offer but want that SS PH action and SS Pac Nor barrel which I think I will put in one of those gray laminate stocks. Should look pretty cool, handle and shoot great (per Wayne's handywork) and be impervious to Alaska weather when I take it on my Kodiak bear hunt.


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Dave, I see the rings, but no bases. Those attach direct to the rifle, same as CZ rings.

I dont see a base like this offered by cz:

https://shop.cz-usa.com/item_d....aspx?ItemCode=19011

https://shop.cz-usa.com/images/items/zoom/19011.jpg

These work fine, but are higher than they need be.
 
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Sorry, didn't understand what you were after. On my CZs, I just use Talley QDs or those Burris rings. My 9.3X62 came with a set of CZ rings. They're not pretty but they work.


Dave
DRSS
Chapuis 9.3X74
Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL
Krieghoff 500/.416 NE
Krieghoff 500 NE

"Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer"

"If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition).
 
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I found that Ruger/CZ system worked well in 375 and 416, but when I got to 505 it was dangerous. For me. I know I see lots of 505/500 CZ on the web with scopes mounted like yours. I just could not relax and take aim knowing how close that scope was to denting my head. The 458 was marginal call, but needing the Z ring and liking the weaver concept I went with 5 inch eye relief on the 458 also.

It amazing difference, you can use any kind of careless weak hold, with 5 inch eye relief it is virtually impossible to meet the scope in recoil. But it looks crappy - Un classic.

Anyway, if Montana has an attractive way to attach a full base or direct mount , that would be very cool.
 
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