quote:

My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell all my guns for what I told her they cost.

We should start a thread on favorite ... what are these called ? This has to make the top 10.

And, Not a 30 line, double spaced, multicolor monologue that fills my screen.

Fourbore, that was really funny

It's harder these days to use the lamp shade trick to get new rifles in the house.

My wife also caused a near heart attack the other day when she suggested I donate all my guns and trophies to a local museum someday!!!!

Dak

I copied that from snowwolf, 2 posts up. That is his "signature"? Some are very clever.

Simple answer there: let her die first. Take the half a mil insurance check, hunt Africa with your new eighteen year old red headed girl friend til the money is gone or she does you in...

Rich

Guys, I don't want to rain on anybody's parade here but there is absolutely nothing new in Jeff's post that he hasn't been saying for the past two years. Still not even a suggestion as to when he might start shipping the actions.

Like I said, I really, really hope this project is successful but I am out. I only wanted this action to build a Gibbs but I after all this time I have have gone in a different direction. I have already sent two e-mails asking for a refund and I will follow that up with a paper request later this week.

My faith in human kind has been strengthened by so many posts here. I have had some bad experiences with some odd person on this forum, but you guys are real stand up people who are understanding and supportive of an honest man while he goes through hard / challenging times.

My own business is coming out of the slump and some people have been really good to me when it really mattered.

Well done gentlemen!

quote:

Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Simple answer there: let her die first. Take the half a mil insurance check, hunt Africa with your new eighteen year old red headed girl friend til the money is gone or she does you in...

Rich

Make it a 35 year old blond who is an only child and her rich daddy is gonna die any day and count me in

Dave- Did you get in on initial pricing.
If so; I or I'll find someone to pay you
off and wait for action. Let me know.
Maybe one of the Texas guys.............Ed


PS;Last sentence is a hint..........

quote:

Originally posted by hubel458:
Dave- Did you get in on initial pricing.
If so; I or I'll find someone to pay you
off and wait for action. Let me know.
Maybe one of the Texas guys.............Ed


PS;Last sentence is a hint..........

Ed, the price to me was $625. I have already requested a cancellation but I'll bet Jeff would rather someone buy my action. Let me know.

Snowwolfe,

probably too many miles on a 1975 model anything; and likely has a kid or ten to throw in on the deal. Nah, I like being an only child.

Rich

quote:

Originally posted by Dave Bush:
Guys, I don't want to rain on anybody's parade here but there is absolutely nothing new in Jeff's post that he hasn't been saying for the past two years. Still not even a suggestion as to when he might start shipping the actions.

Like I said, I really, really hope this project is successful but I am out. I only wanted this action to build a Gibbs but I after all this time I have have gone in a different direction. I have already sent two e-mails asking for a refund and I will follow that up with a paper request later this week.

+1

If jeff is so busy, what is he busy doing? He's obviously NOT building 1999's because Lindsay said that they have the same "firing pin issue". So no 1999's, no ph's, and he's not busy issuing refunds, so he must be busy finding sub-contractors to make "firing pins".

I feel like I'm listening to a broken record. Find a MTJ post from a year ago and I'll bet it sounds eerily similar to the one this week.

Dave, Rob, Rubline - I have to, unfortunately agree with everything you have written.

Rich, you know I luv ya, but I have to say we have been hearing the same tune in one form or other for years. Maybe because I have been through this very same thing with 5 different trusted professionals (and people I came to think of as friends) in the past 10 years including my trusted race car mechanic, but we have been hearing one excuse after another for years.

The fact that you and Ed have gotten actions does little to bolster my belief that the rest are forthcoming. I personally was the recipient of custom-made, purpose built anti-sway bars that really made an incredible difference on the track. I paid a bunch for them and the other components necessary to transform the car. My success and that of another racer with the same car lead the designer (the same person doing the fabrication QC and shipping) to market them and there was a rush. 716 orders for which he took money said he would produce and deliver within a year. Everyone was thrilled. He took and posted pictures of the piles of bars and components. Then it was "I have to tweak them a bit. One of the components need to be changed - I want only the best to go out. The tie-rod end was not threaded to my specification so I am holding the shipment until that is right.I need help to crate them up" and on and on and on. Many people showed up at his warehouse to help crate them for shipment. He couldnt meet them for a variety of reasons including "My insuracne company wont allow you on the premises." Communications were poor from the start and became only second-hand then stopped entirely. 7 years now and only two sets were ever delivered. There is a suit pending but I need not tell you where that will go.

I'm still in it because I believe that most people are good folk with good intentions (which is why I have been screwed repeatedly by "friends" out of tens of thousands of $$$ in the past 10 years). I continue to give Jeff the benefit of that belief.

In the last go-around, we agreed that we would be satisfied with some form of update on some regular basis. The excuse that "I am too busy to answer an email, answer a phone call or post on AR" is bullshit plain and simple. I know I am not alone in working an average of 115 hours per week. This post just took me 95 seconds to type. I bet Jeff has a spare 95 seconds to do the same.

Again, I am not asking for a refund and am not selling my action because there is still a glimmer of hope that this hasn't been a complete charade based on a good idea by someone who does not have the real ability to produce.

Rub Line,
I'm sorry but you are incorrect. Are we finding new suppliers for all our Firing Pins, you bet, but we have ...quite a few extra Long and Short Firing pins and we have sent out over 100 Long actions just in the last month. Are we putting out actions...uhh yeah I'd say we are. Are we putting all of them out right now, no, but it won't be long before we will. I know that sounds like a broken record, well I can't do anything about that. All I can do is give you my best guesstimate.

As Rich said I will try to come on here every Friday (although this wek you get it today)and give you guys an update as to where we are at.

Again Rub Line, if Lindsay told you that, then she was mistaken and I will ask her what information she thought she was giving people?

And what am I busy doing ......really....wow....all I can say is running a manufacturing facility is not all it's cracked up to be. If any of you think you can do it better, pony up. I have a job opening for a Director of Manufacturing... doesn't pay much to start but in the next three to four months the only complaining is going to be about past experiences. I'm not going to "give away" what's happening but we are growing.

We currently have Long CM RH actions in stock, Std and Mag, I have Short CM Right hand stds and mags going to heat treat and will be in inventory within two weeks. I have Short LH SS stds and Mags going to heat treat and will be in inventory within 3 weeks. I have Long SS Right hand Stds and Mags getting machined and will go to heat treat and then to heat treat(inventory within 4 weeks). I have SS Long LH recievers in stock and the bolts are off to heat treat monday. So those will be available within two weeks. I also have Short SS RH std and mag getting ready to be machined now and will have those in inventory by the middle to the end of march. I am awaiting Long CM LH bolts and receivers from Casting and they will be the next to be machined.

I have a few PH firing pins that look good from other vendors and will be giving the go ahead on those this week. Give me 3-4 weeks for delivery of them and then we'll get them rolling. Because I now know that the firing pin issue should be resolved, I am pushing forward on the rest of the parts, (bolt stops and safeties are mimmed parts) I have limited quantities of these so I am going to have that company send out the rest of the order.

There is one catch in the PH processes. We originally spec'd them for three different bolt faces, the Gibbs, the Rigby and the stad mag. However we are running into an issue that is causing some concern. The Standard Magnums are a little too small for this action. The people who want a 375 H&H or 458 Lott may be waiting a little while longer while we engineer a new mag box system for them. By making the PH acceptable to the 505 Gibbs and the 585 Nyati is great, it then becomes hard to get the 375's to feed correctly. We do have different recievers with the feed rails set for those cases but we are still trying out differnt mag boxes and followers for them. I will keep you updated to the progress of this as well.

We have had several customers who we have told about it that had one ( DCRM) on order for those cartridges and they switched to the Long action because it was designed for those already and if anyone else wants to do that let us know.

Also for those that want to get in on the $625 introductory price but didn't get in on time, I will give you the opportunity to "buy in" by buying out the people who are cancelling. I would prefer that you call in and talk to us about it, but if you know someone that is cancelling you can also contact them directly.

I hope this helps some of you.
Jeff

Anybody want to buy me out? If so, send me a PM.

I wondered about doing H&H based cases in PH.
Mag box is huge. A MRC 1999 long action is better
for those. Plenty strong, looks nice.
Then that way that saves more PHs for Rigby/Weatherby
and Gibbs/585HE and my 700 work.

You see all the stuff going on in his manufacturing,
casting, heat treating,etc, with all the actions he
is making. It is easy to see why problems can occur
when suppliers file bankruptcy without completed
contracted deliveries. For a small company they are
doing a yeoman job, under real pressure cooker
conditions.Ed

An interesting post from MontanaJeff that is signed off by Jeff & Devin. Dated 22 May 2007 19:28 from the gunsmithing forum.

Quote:
There have been so many rumors and comments about Montana Rifle Company (MRC) lately and while most have been good there have been some negative as well. We believe most negative comments to either be from a misunderstanding or misinformation about our products.

First of all let me start by saying we are no longer the same company. The overall product line has not changed but just about everything else has. We have new owners; who have a completely new philosophy about the product we are producing along with how we will deal with our customers. The previous thought process was “ We are not building a $2000 action, if you want anything different do it yourselfâ€. While we still believe we are building the starting point for a custom rifle, we also understand the changing dynamics of the custom rifle industry. While there are still a handful of gunsmiths who prefer to build a custom rifle from scratch, there is a large majority who want the action in more of a finished state before they get it. Because each person has a comfort level that they are willing to start with, we have decided to do two things;
1. All actions will have the raceways smoothed and the receiver/bolt squared and lapped. The trigger pull will be set to between 3-4 lbs. The actions will be semi-blueprinted.
2 We are going to offer the actions in different levels of finish (obviously with different pricing structures). The more you want your action “finishedâ€, the higher the price will be. However we will still keep the overall costs below all others actions that are in the same category, as far as features. These pricing increases will begin 6/1/07

One of the biggest complaints we have had is the lengthy time frames to get any of our long and short actions. Let me give you all the assurance that within the next 30-60 days we will have inventory of every variation of action we currently make. Right and left handed, stainless and CM, long and short, standard and magnum. We have made it our mission to provide you with inventory, but also to make that inventory the highest quality we can provide.

Another thing we want to do is help those who feel they had a bad experience with us. For those of you that fall into this category, please give us a call and we will try to work that out on a one on one basis.

The PH and the Mini,…..wow…where do I begin? Well first let me start by saying we are going to complete these projects sooner than later. We will be starting with the PH and hope to have it going by SHOT Show 2008. I know….you’ve heard that before, right? Well you’ll either have to just trust me or wait and see. The mini is one we hope to start by mid 2008. We will not be doing these the same way we did the short and long actions, by using customers money to produce them. This time we will be doing it with our own money and will charge the customers on shipment. While we pursued every option available to keep the price of the PH at the introductory offering of $525.00, with the rising costs of steel and machining costs of parts there is no chance that we will be able to fulfill that. The pricing of the introductory offer will be around $625.00-$650.00 This pricing will only be for the customers that have pre-ordered the PH’s and have an order in before 6/1/07. All orders after 6/1/07 will be at regular pricing, around $750-850.

There will be other updates as we grow and we want to thank you for your patronage and especially your continued patience.

Jeff & Devin
End Quote

Well that news release back then they both signed it, but
it appears they couln' get it all going(they came out later with
release saying PH shelved)...One is gone along with
some of previous help. That help went elsewhere and
got them to try to make a PH, with a big announcement.
I and others kinda beat Jeff over the head with what they were doing,
and helped convinced him to start PH up again, so he wouldn't
lose a market, and the hard work
put into the design over the years.
It is crazy the things that happen.Ed

It's been tough on the consumers side as there has been alot of information put out there and some inconsistencies such as who owns the company as in that post they say they have new owners. In the last paragragh it is mentioned that customer money will not be used to fund the "Mini" and "PH" actions. Was referring to this post from 2007 as to my purchase being a purchase and not an investment.
Please don't misunderstand me as I really want this action "PH" and for who ever owns or runs the company to be successful. Jeff posting here and representing the company and the progress of the actions will help. I have to admit that I'm becoming worried after reading the many posts here from guys that are very respected in our little community of bigbore shooters. Also in an another thread a year or so ago "Jeff" said then that he would post here on a regular basis to keep us informed. . As of the moment I'm still in.
Rodney.

Jeff has it now, but he had to buy out
others at same time as seting up to get
PH going....So we can see hectic time he has
been through. Ed

quote:

Originally posted by MTJ:
Rub Line,
I'm sorry but you are incorrect. Are we finding new suppliers for all our Firing Pins, you bet, but we have ...quite a few extra Long and Short Firing pins and we have sent out over 100 Long actions just in the last month. Are we putting out actions...uhh yeah I'd say we are. Are we putting all of them out right now, no, but it won't be long before we will. I know that sounds like a broken record, well I can't do anything about that. All I can do is give you my best guesstimate.



We currently have Long CM RH actions in stock, Std and Mag, I have Short CM Right hand stds and mags going to heat treat and will be in inventory within two weeks. I hope this helps some of you.
Jeff

O.K., well I was just plain upset before, now I'm Pissed! Whose ass do I have to kiss to get a friggin action???!!! I had a right hand CM action (with a stainless bolt) on order in early JULY, in October we called to inquire and were informed that the actions were being delayed due to "the same firing pin issue". So i gave up on it when we were told by YOUR COMPANY that it would be 'about' TEN MORE WEEKS!

So now you tell me that you send out 100 1999 LA's a month!!! Furthermore, on the website it's said that there is a 90 day wait. Sooooo what am I supposed to belive? 90 days (website), firing pin issue (customer 'service'), or you make 100 a month (AR posts)? At the rate of 100 a month you would have made nearly 1,000 long actions between now and last july. I would think that when I called lindsay, she would have said something to the effect that they are being built and i am # whatever on the list, but no, she says the production is stalled due to "firing pin issue".

So right there the story changes three times and I still have no refund, action or decent explination. You are not the only one that works his ass off here. In fact, I work for a Fortune 500 company and I can tell you that if we ran our business like you do, we would fall off that list in a hurry.

The tradgedy in the whole mess is that I ordered the 1999 action to build a rifle because I knew that the PH was still a pipe dream and would not be ready in time for my safari. So I have two actions on order (ph & '99), the deposits cut into my safari because I don't know if I'll get refunded at this point. Furthermore, I had to go out and purchase a donor (sako) rifle so I can get my rifle built in time for my Africa trip.

I always wondered how people could get investors to keep giving them money, and when qusetioned about where their money is going, they can sweet talk them out of even more cash.

Im going to make this simple! Jeff- When exactly will my two actions be shipped to me? Inquiring minds want to know! I'm expecting a DATE here! I wish you and your company only the best, but its time for some answers, other than we are working on it. That wont cut it anymore. WE ALL WORK HARD and I dont think I'm out of line by pushing you for some hard facts! I think we deserve firm dates at this point.
BTW if I have offended anyone here over my pushing MTJ on this issue, my response is you wont be the first and you wont be the last and please don't confuse me with someone who actually gives a shit either!-Rob

Rob,

Keeping this all inside has got to be bad for you. Don't hold back! Tell us how you really feel!

I am "IN", and I am staying "IN". You naysayers must have never been married or had children. Nothing every goes according to plan.

Anybody who needs their money back: how were you going to pay for the rifle to be built? Don't you own any other suitable rifles?

We are seeing the issues dealt with, as fast as can be done. I think Jeff will be able to write a book when all this is over.

Rich

I've been "in" since 2003, is that "in" enough? My deal was made with Jon whom is no longer there. Back then even he made it sound like they were going to deliver very soon and there seemed to be alot of excitement about. Even had my dealer send a copy of his FFL to them in great anticipation. Then one day in April '08 they called my dealer, not me for payment which he made on my behalf. I caught up with him a day or two later and settled with him. As for myself I was courious why they did not call me for payment but then that was overshadowed with the thought that the "PH" actions were being delivered- again in just a few months. I just wonder where I'm at on the shipping list? This I would like to know. How many others have been "in" this long?
Rodney.

quote:

Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
I am "IN", and I am staying "IN". You naysayers must have never been married or had children. Nothing every goes according to plan.

Anybody who needs their money back: how were you going to pay for the rifle to be built? Don't you own any other suitable rifles?

We are seeing the issues dealt with, as fast as can be done. I think Jeff will be able to write a book when all this is over.

Rich

Rich:

My MRC PH action (or the right to it anyway) is in the classifieds if you want to buy me out.

No animosity here. I wish Jeff the best of luck but I think Rob is right about this. After all this time we either need our money back of a firm delivery date within 60 days..

C'mon Rich, this is just crazy. Most of the guys here have been waiting years.

Rich, I think your going to have to do better than this.

"I am "IN", and I am staying "IN"."
How would I know if and when you got into this.

"You naysayers must have never been married or had children."
Been married quite some time, but would'nt be if there had been an ongoing concern of trust.

"Nothing every goes according to plan."
Correct on this as this certainly has not for me. Project has been fullfilled many times over the years and still going.

"Anybody who needs their money back: how were you going to pay for the rifle to be built?"
This is kind of lame, especially for you and this is not a question of my financial ability to have a rifle built. I've already paid.

"Don't you own any other suitable rifles?"
Several, and thanks for your help with two of them.

"We are seeing the issues dealt with, as fast as can be done."
This where I need the font for sarcasm.

"I think Jeff will be able to write a book when all this is over."
Best seller I assume. I'm sure Steve Forbes is looking over his shoulder.

Again Rich you are better than this. I've got an idea, how about you send me $625.- bucks and I'll hold it for you until I recieve my Montana "PH" action.
Rodney.

quote:

Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
I am "IN", and I am staying "IN". You naysayers must have never been married or had children. Nothing every goes according to plan.

Anybody who needs their money back: how were you going to pay for the rifle to be built? Don't you own any other suitable rifles?

We are seeing the issues dealt with, as fast as can be done. I think Jeff will be able to write a book when all this is over.

Rich

Rich, I don't want to get into a pissing match with you, but I read your posts and have some comments/questions. Please don't take this as an attack on you, I am upset with MRC, not you.


1. good for you for staying in. I wish that I had your paitience and faith in your fellow man to do the right things with my money. You do have a point about being married, perhaps I am looking for a divorce, as I want absolutley NOTHING to do with MRC anymore. Nothing. In fact, if he shipped my actions to me, I would promptly post them on Gunbroker. Lack of trust is why marriages and relationships fail.

2. We are all on budgets here and I have two actions on hold, a 1999 and a PH. Furthermore, my gunsmith has two additional PH actions on order. So with four actions on indefinite hold, with the ship date of last year in mind. How long should a person LOAN cash out with no interest or promised return date???

3.Could you please cite how the issues are being dealt with? Because I just keep hearing the same old drivel from MRC. Excuse excuse excuse, no answers.

Here is another little "Factoid". I was IN , EARLY, VERY EARLY in fact the "DEAL" was that I was to get actions NUMBERED 002 and 003. ED was to get 001. Two years ago, I "DISCOVERED" I got bumped to The 40's. No explanation no nothing. Given the changes in management and other delays I decided not to make a big deal of it. That was a clue though!
BTW guys, I have been nice and way too understanding! in the REAL buisness world, like I used to LIVE IN, DELAYS like this and failure to deliver are called PISS POOR MANAGEMENT! I've fired people when stuff like this was allowed to happen. Lets not confuse this mess with the all warm and fuzzy picture of a heroic small company struggling against overwhelming odds! Total Bullshit and I'm not buying it! THE ONLY WAY THEY ARE GONNA REDEEM THEMSELVES IN MY BOOK IS TO START SHIPPING ACTIONS!
Now, I just want to know exactly when the two actions I payed for will be shipped!-Rob

Rodney,

don't be so cynical young man. Look around your area. Any businesses shut their doors in the last couple of years?

Besides, I haven't really begun to dust off the old cliches and remodel them!

1. John Paul Jones: "I have not yet begun to fret':.
2. "Let's wait this one for the Gipper".
3. Pres. Ronald Reagan: "Are you closer now than you were two years ago?".

I understand this is tough on a lot of you. Heck, Rodney; you got my old CZ 505 Gibbs to occupy your spare time with. It isn't like RGB and you don't own anything bigger than a 22 Hornet.

Besides bitching being one of the two greatest American pastimes that you can indulge yourself in with your clothes on, it doesn't do any good.
It's like peeing your pants wearing dark levis.
Gives you a nice warm feeling, but nobody else sees much of it.

Rich

And I should have been in the forties somewhere as far as ordering and this was coming on seven years ago. GEEZ wonder how far down the list I've been kicked.
Rodney.

May as well get some entertainment out of it, right?

"Look around your area. Any businesses shut their doors in the last couple of years?"
No, not really the area here seems to be making it.

"Besides, I haven't really begun to dust off the old cliches and remodel them!"
Bring them on, need some entertainment out of this.

"1. John Paul Jones: "I have not yet begun to fret':.
2. "Let's wait this one for the Gipper".
3. Pres. Ronald Reagan: "Are you closer now than you were two years ago?"."
Oldies but still goodies.

"I understand this is tough on a lot of you. Heck, Rodney; you got my old CZ 505 Gibbs to occupy your spare time with. It isn't like RGB and you don't own anything bigger than a 22 Hornet."
Weak and not really to the point. But I do treasure the Gibbs.


"Besides bitching being one of the two greatest American pastimes that you can indulge yourself in with your clothes on, it doesn't do any good."
Trying to sort out the facts and will try to remain respectful old friend.


"It's like peeing your pants wearing dark levis.
Gives you a nice warm feeling, but nobody else sees much of it."
Seen a one liner something of this recently in a cell text, was kind of funny at the time.

Rich

All that is being said is pushing me toward a refund. About to start another project for the year anyway. Could be on the "PH" if it gets here soon.
Rodney.

quote:

Besides bitching being one of the two greatest American pastimes that you can indulge yourself in with your clothes on, it doesn't do any good.

Rich

I don't have a horse in this race, but that comment was a cracker.

Rich if your founding fathers shared that sentiment you would still be a colony.

Karl.

BTW- It would be much more productive if even THOSE WHO MANAGED TO GET THEIR PH ACTIONS FROM MRC actually joined the hordes of US who HAVE GOTTEN NOTHING in PUTTING pressure on MRC to PERFORM its obligations instead of DEFENDING THEM. Dont think for a moment this is is just bitching, its a very public way to put pressure on a non-performing company. REMEMBER THIS! THEY ALREADY HAVE OUR MONEY and WE HAVE NOTHING!THIS IS NOT LIKE THEY HAVE HEROICLY INVESTED THEIR OWN MONEY IN THIS PROJECT! I'd argue that defending them is more like an atempt to put a smokescreen over the real problem. Its to MRC's advantage to get us arguing amongst ourselves rather than concentrating on them.-Rob

Hey Robgunbuilder...it would help if you gave me your name to look the order up. I checked the books for Robgunbuilder and...weird...not there?

You post he said/she said stuff that has not involved me but my Assistant and yet you slam me for some miscommunication between you two? Instead of all this BS on a BLOG the phone number is 406-756-4867 I will be here monday morning! Guess I am a little PISSED OFF too now!

quote:

Originally posted by MTJ:
Guess I am a little PISSED OFF too now!

Wow, you got all the actions, all the data, all the money, and you are pissed, "too"?

Wow...

NO Jeff I'm pissed because I get slammed here by people who don't put there names on the line. How am I supposed to fix their issues if I don't know whose order to check out? All the money..Ha! That's a good one. Here in lies the reason I don't like coming on here to begin with! I am busting my ass to get things finished up and this just drives me to the point of saying f$%^ it! I am going to continue to post updates on here but that's it, I'm tired of this. I have work to do and the last thing I need is excess negativity. I will get this finished up, I can promise you that. Dave Bush, I'll make sure your refund is out Monday AM. Rub Line if you think it's a ponzi, then tell me your real name and I'll get your refund out too. Other than that, I'll post again next Friday as to the updates.
Sorry if my temper got the best of me, most of you guys have been great.
Thanks
Jeff

quote:

Originally posted by MTJ:
NO Jeff I'm pissed because I get slammed here by people who don't put there names on the line. How am I supposed to fix their issues if I don't know whose order to check out? All the money..Ha! That's a good one. Here in lies the reason I don't like coming on here to begin with! I am busting my ass to get things finished up and this just drives me to the point of saying f$%^ it! I am going to continue to post updates on here but that's it, I'm tired of this. I have work to do and the last thing I need is excess negativity. I will get this finished up, I can promise you that. Dave Bush, I'll make sure your refund is out Monday AM. Rub Line if you think it's a ponzi, then tell me your real name and I'll get your refund out too. Other than that, I'll post again next Friday as to the updates.
Sorry if my temper got the best of me, most of you guys have been great.
Thanks
Jeff

PM sent.

Robgunbuilder mentioned that he had input on the original design and he acknowledged Ed getting serial number #1 and that he was to get #s 2 and 3. Seems very obvious as to who he must be, especially to MontanaJeff or MTJ or whoever is running the company. As for me, I use my name here and the dealer that is to handle my transfer is Sportsman Guns & Ammo in Conroe Texas. With that information can a time frame be given on delivery, seriously please. Yes this is a forum, but many of us know each other, had some sort of dealings, or at least have been introduced at a shoot at some time or another. We are counting on you. Some sort of acknowledgment to a shipping sequence would be professional and remove doubt as to who gets one when. I would like to know which barrel I'm going to order next, be it a .700 for the "PH" or a .550 for another CZ.
Rodney.

quote:

Originally posted by chuck375:
I wish you luck Rich, I hope they make it right for all of you.

Chuck

Same sentiment here Rich. I aint no expert, but I went Stiller instead of 99 and am damn glad I did.

Jeff- oh yeah I do all my buisness under a email username. Don't you? If you dont know my name check your Messages that you never returned there are at least two. My name is Dr. Robert Garnick. You call me I left the number. Check your files more carefully. Your not the only one who's pissed! Tell you what,I'll make it simple send me my money back I don't want any part of these actions now! Anyone who wants em they are yours!-Rob