quote:

Originally posted by MJines:

Too early for the last word Mike. Standby!

quote:

Originally posted by Frostbit:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
Its the "why" you "was wondering" that begs the question.

I was "wondering" why Northway hadn't posted in a couple of years and asked about it in the Alaska Forum. He always posted a report of his Sheep success every year. The man is a Sheep killing machine. When I didn't see anything for quite a while I had no way to reach him personally, didn't know his real name, so a asked on the forum. Someone contacted him and he pointed and said he was fine. Just didn't post lately.

This is a guy who posts probably 20 times a year and I realized he was MIA. As pointed out ISS posted multiple times a day. Why is it a mystery someone would ask where he was Lane?

Cheers
Jim

Couple of things Jim.

You liked the guy you were looking for...Ted does not.

Thus...it would be logical for you to look for your guy...and illogical for Ted to look for Rich...unless there was an agenda.

A lot of AR already knew Rich was at least suspended and that was the reason for his absence...I think it likely Ted knew that before he posted the topic.

quote:

Originally posted by MacD37:

quote:

Originally posted by jdollar:
Damn Jim, now you have done it. You have joined a select group of death threat subjects that some folks here think are liars...my sympathies ,mate. Now you too will get to hear about what a great guy he is and never would hurt a fly.

jdollar, I don't think anyone here doubts the threats ISS made, and I don't think anyone here thinks you guys are liars about the threats.

I also think a few of you guys started the threats by ganging up on him about the Elk post he made. Without any solid proof that it was a lie! You guys got a little nasty with him before any of this even started.

Then on top of that gang-bang most of you accused him of lying about his service in Nam. IMO, that is what started his PTSD to rise to the level that was the turning point for the rest of what has become a witch hunt that we see today!

Having said the above, I have to agree with the posts that it takes two to have a fight, or in this case a mob and a person to cause 9 pages of crap slinging like this thread!

Gentlemen ISS is not the only one at fault for his banning, OR his threatening to the few who openly called him a liar in a public forum when you had nothing but your opinion a s proof he lied.
True enough he should have just told you to
go to hell, and be done with you, but IMO his PTSD over road his ability to think rationally.

All this is simply my opinion, and as far as I know that is allowed here whether or not others agree!
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Very good and well written post sir!

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Frostbit:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
Its the "why" you "was wondering" that begs the question.

I was "wondering" why Northway hadn't posted in a couple of years and asked about it in the Alaska Forum. He always posted a report of his Sheep success every year. The man is a Sheep killing machine. When I didn't see anything for quite a while I had no way to reach him personally, didn't know his real name, so a asked on the forum. Someone contacted him and he pointed and said he was fine. Just didn't post lately.

This is a guy who posts probably 20 times a year and I realized he was MIA. As pointed out ISS posted multiple times a day. Why is it a mystery someone would ask where he was Lane?

Cheers
Jim

Couple of things Jim.

You liked the guy you were looking for...Ted does not.

Thus...it would be logical for you to look for your guy...and illogical for Ted to look for Rich...unless there was an agenda.

A lot of AR already knew Rich was at least suspended and that was the reason for his absence...I think it likely Ted knew that before he posted the topic.

A fair point Lane.

Cheers
Jim

quote:

Originally posted by MacD37:

quote:

Originally posted by jdollar:
Damn Jim, now you have done it. You have joined a select group of death threat subjects that some folks here think are liars...my sympathies ,mate. Now you too will get to hear about what a great guy he is and never would hurt a fly.

jdollar, I don't think anyone here doubts the threats ISS made, and I don't think anyone here thinks you guys are liars about the threats.

I also think a few of you guys started the threats by ganging up on him about the Elk post he made. Without any solid proof that it was a lie! You guys got a little nasty with him before any of this even started.

Then on top of that gang-bang most of you accused him of lying about his service in Nam. IMO, that is what started his PTSD to rise to the level that was the turning point for the rest of what has become a witch hunt that we see today!

Having said the above, I have to agree with the posts that it takes two to have a fight, or in this case a mob and a person to cause 9 pages of crap slinging like this thread!

Gentlemen ISS is not the only one at fault for his banning, OR his threatening to the few who openly called him a liar in a public forum when you had nothing but your opinion a s proof he lied.
True enough he should have just told you to
go to hell, and be done with you, but IMO his PTSD over road his ability to think rationally.

All this is simply my opinion, and as far as I know that is allowed here whether or not others agree!
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Mac:

I just read through the elk thread one more time to refresh my memory. Here is a short summary:

1. He claimed to have shot 29 elk in 30 years hunting in Idaho, of which 26 scored 350 BC.
2. Doesn't have a single picture because he hunts for meat, yet, he has taken great pride to show us all the other stuff he has mounted. But not a single elk?
3. Assume he hunts for meat. If that is the case, he is shooting the first elk he sees, because he doesn't care about the antlers. So one has to assume the first bull he saw in 26 out of 30 years was a 350 or better bull. What are the odds of that happening? Has ANYONE else ever done that in the history of hunting? Anyone? So he is the best elk hunter of all time and we never hear about it? The guy was a writer for Precision Shooting. Any mention of that in PS? He could have made a mint writing elk hunting books and articles if he had done that. Furthermore, I have never seen a writer who doesn't have a camera around his neck or in his pack or who would not take a pic of mature elk. You can't write a story without pictures (unless, of course, you do it on the internet).
4. Before that thread, there is not a SINGLE mention of that "fact" he has shot 26 350+ elk, yet, we have all heard various rockchuck shots, the Cape buff hunt, etc. Does that not make you a little suspicious?

I respect his military service, and recently came to "peace" with him. But for you to imply we "ganged up" on him after he insisted his story was true is a bit over the top. If you don't believe that, then how about I say I shot 50 100lb elephants? Can't prove I didn't, can you?

I stayed out of this thread for the most part, but for you to insist challenging him on the elk claim was out of line is ridiculous.

quote:

Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
Mac:

I just read through the elk thread one more time to refresh my memory. Here is a short summary:

1. He claimed to have shot 29 elk in 30 years hunting in Idaho, of which 26 scored 350 BC.
2. Doesn't have a single picture because he hunts for meat, yet, he has taken great pride to show us all the other stuff he has mounted. But not a single elk?
3. Assume he hunts for meat. If that is the case, he is shooting the first elk he sees, because he doesn't care about the antlers. So one has to assume the first bull he saw in 26 out of 30 years was a 350 or better bull. What are the odds of that happening? Has ANYONE else ever done that in the history of hunting? Anyone? So he is the best elk hunter of all time and we never hear about it? The guy was a writer for Precision Shooting. Any mention of that in PS? He could have made a mint writing elk hunting books and articles if he had done that. Furthermore, I have never seen a writer who doesn't have a camera around his neck or in his pack or who would not take a pic of mature elk. You can't write a story without pictures (unless, of course, you do it on the internet).
4. Before that thread, there is not a SINGLE mention of that "fact" he has shot 26 350+ elk, yet, we have all heard various rockchuck shots, the Cape buff hunt, etc. Does that not make you a little suspicious?

I respect his military service, and recently came to "peace" with him. But for you to imply we "ganged up" on him after he insisted his story was true is a bit over the top. If you don't believe that, then how about I say I shot 50 100lb elephants? Can't prove I didn't, can you?

I stayed out of this thread for the most part, but for you to insist challenging him on the elk claim was out of line is ridiculous.

You are correct of course, it is suspicious
for sure. However it is not impossible and it
is true that he must be the luckiest elk hunter in history. However a meat hunters often takes very large animals and 29 elk is 30 years is not out of the ordinary for someone who lives in very good elk country. 26 being over 350 does sounds unlikely to me as well, but I, like
you, have no proof that it did not happen. As I said was, the proof you guys had is simply opinion nothing more, that was my point!
I was taken to task one time over a statement I made about wiping the deer out on my grand fathers ranch during WWII being the only male child it was left up to me to supply meat for four families who's men were over seas fighting. This was during meat rationing and during about 1943 to a little over 1945 or 6 I shot well over 75 deer with a 22 single shot rifle. My grand father would help me quarter the meat out and get it home, but the horns were left with the hides in the woods. My grand father said "boy, you can't eat horns!" Many of those deer had very heavy racks and I have no pictures or horns to show you. So now by your standard that puts me in the same canoe with ISS with your proof system.

I’m not saying you are wrong for not believing ISS’s claim, but just like ISS , now you can put me in that same place, but I promise you I will not gut you with my hunting knife if you call me a liar because of this post, because you are initialed to your opinion, and I do not suffer from PTSD. In my opinion ISS does, and was the reason for his threats!
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Is everyone feeling better about themselves, because they can make assumptions/accusations about someone that can not defend themselves???????????

I wonder if we can check into Character Assassination as being something that requires a license?

How many on here feel good about themselves for dragging someone they do not really know thru the dirt, especially when the person cannot defend themselves!!!!

Really shows the character of American Hunters!

Strange. A number of Idaho hunting guides on here flat out stated that it was impossible to kill that many record book elk on PUBLIC land while meat hunting. Being that lucky, I hope Rich was buying Powerball tickets.

quote:

Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
Is everyone feeling better about themselves, because they can make assumptions/accusations about someone that can not defend themselves???????????

I wonder if we can check into Character Assassination as being something that requires a license?

How many on here feel good about themselves for dragging someone they do not really know thru the dirt, especially when the person cannot defend themselves!!!!

Really shows the character of American Hunters!

Crazy:

Feel free to address my points above, one at a time.

Hey, if you are so irritated, have you considered leaving?

quote:

Originally posted by

Hey, if you are so irritated, have you considered leaving?

I made the assumptions/accusations when he could respond- and was treated to a death threat accompanied by a statement that he had PTSD but refused to take his meds or seek further help from the VA psychiatrist. Of course being a veteran, he is allowed to threaten anyone he wants. Frankly I am sick of the apologizers/ deniers. This is my last post on this abortion. Good luck, Rich....

The Blame game is as old as humanity itself.

So keep blaming each other why he got banned, and why this thread has a life of its own.

Don't bother putting the blame right where it belongs.

quote:

Feel free to address my points above, one at a time.

What needs to be addressed? ISS is not here to defend himself, so you believe you're such an upstanding citizen that the accusations/assumptions you have made warrant anything other than a cowardly character assassination of someone that can not respond to those accusations/assumptions.

So you're a writer, BFD, it does not make you an expert, nor does it mean you have total knowledge on another hunters accomplishments or experiences!

No one died and appointed you GOD! Just answer one damn question your Holiness, were you one of the people ISS threatened? Just answer that if you are man enough!

quote:

Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:

quote:

Feel free to address my points above, one at a time.

What needs to be addressed? ISS is not here to defend himself, so you believe you're such an upstanding citizen that the accusations/assumptions you have made warrant anything other than a cowardly character assassination of someone that can not respond to those accusations/assumptions.

So you're a writer, BFD, it does not make you an expert, nor does it mean you have total knowledge on another hunters accomplishments or experiences!

No one died and appointed you GOD! Just answer one damn question your Holiness, were you one of the people ISS threatened? Just answer that if you are man enough!

CHC:

I am not "assassinating" his character at all - simply responding to those who accused some of us of "ganging up" on him on the elk thread, to which I might point out he had ample opportunity to defend himself.

For a guy who has stirred up shit for so many years you certainly have become self righteous. I will take ISS over you any day, but I don't have a choice.

Oh yea, he did threaten me. But I got my panties a lot more twisted over the elk claim. So what? Are you going to ask me next if I served too?

I do not care what you will or won't take.

The man is not here to confirm or deny anything!

Why don't you whine a little and see how honestly cares.

I am not one bit self righteous, I just don't like seeing anyone picked on or bad mouthed when they arte not in a position to provide any rebuttal to the charges.

At your age and intelligence level you should be well acquainted with the Good Old American concept of FAIRNESS!

My mail man can whip your mail man.

That is possible. our mailman is a geezer just like me.

As I stated earlier in this cluster, I have had very little dealing with ISS, and basically all that is being put forth is one side of the situation since ISS can't defend himself.

That he got himself banned doesn't change things, he is no longer on the site, and can't threaten anyone.

quote:

Originally posted by carpetman1:
My mail man can whip your mail man.

Yeah, well the burritos on the taco truck parked next to my house are better than the burritos on the taco truck in San Angelo.

But I don't really have a taco truck next to my house, so I am living vicariously through those that live in Alamogordo, NM.

Do you have 20 Kebab guys from Lebanon and Iraq? Maybe we could argue about that?

Reminds me of an old English comedy program - well before the PC brigade has taken over.

In the lift of a building, in walks and Indian and an Englishman.

The Indian smiles at the English man, and says "I am better than you. I have an Englishman as my neighbour. You only have an Indian for a your neighbour!"

Well ok, actually a woman delivers my mail most days. But based on her weight she is very under tall. I suspect she'd be a handful, plenty of bulk.

We're on page 9 for this guy? Really people? Can we let this one die?

Brett

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
Reminds me of an old English comedy program - well before the PC brigade has taken over.

In the lift of a building, in walks and Indian and an Englishman.

The Indian smiles at the English man, and says "I am better than you. I have an Englishman as my neighbour. You only have an Indian for a your neighbour!"

That is funny as can be. I'll have to find the right crowd to repeat that to.

We're on page 9 for this guy? Really people? Can we let this one die?

quote:

If you do not wish to read it, or post anything in it, don't.

Obviously others do, that is why it has gone several pages.

Brett, you must have jumped a page

This thread is far better than the usual MS bashing, at least we know some people's nerves are easily frayed by words.

There's an old English saying: "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me"

quote:

Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
That is possible. our mailman is a geezer just like me.

As I stated earlier in this cluster, I have had very little dealing with ISS, and basically all that is being put forth is one side of the situation since ISS can't defend himself.

That he got himself banned doesn't change things, he is no longer on the site, and can't threaten anyone.

Out of idle curiosity, other than the guy who claimed he was not a ranger, how do you see ISS being attacked?

quote:

Originally posted by larryshores:

quote:

Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
That is possible. our mailman is a geezer just like me.

As I stated earlier in this cluster, I have had very little dealing with ISS, and basically all that is being put forth is one side of the situation since ISS can't defend himself.

That he got himself banned doesn't change things, he is no longer on the site, and can't threaten anyone.

Out of idle curiosity, other than the guy who claimed he was not a ranger, how do you see ISS being attacked?

The OP was an attack...to humiliate ISS in front of the whole AR crowd. AR will be lacking without ISS. In my whole life from little kid through adulthood...I never tried to get someone else to fight my battles. People 'tattling' to Saeed and Don over a PM is not very "man-like" IMHO. My last post...

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by larryshores:

quote:

Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
That is possible. our mailman is a geezer just like me.

As I stated earlier in this cluster, I have had very little dealing with ISS, and basically all that is being put forth is one side of the situation since ISS can't defend himself.

That he got himself banned doesn't change things, he is no longer on the site, and can't threaten anyone.

Out of idle curiosity, other than the guy who claimed he was not a ranger, how do you see ISS being attacked?

The OP was an attack...to humiliate ISS in front of the whole AR crowd. AR will be lacking without ISS. In my whole life from little kid through adulthood...I never tried to get someone else to fight my battles. People 'tattling' to Saeed and Don over a PM is not very "man-like" IMHO. My last post...

I know you said it was your last post, but what would you do if a member threatened to kill you? What would you do if you thought there was a chance that member might actually attempt it? If the OP deletes the PM then you have no record of it, better to report it to the Mods in case the person threatening decides to carry through on their promise. I'm betting the Mods have a way of preserving the threats or recovering from deletion. It's not very "man-like" to theaten to kill someone by PM IMHO.


Only Ted knows the original intent of his post, but two other members have passed recently so the question IMO was legitimate. Though I do believe one of ISS's friends probably would have posted it sooner than five days after if be he had passed. It is well documented that there is little love lost between them, and the both seemed to find one another on in the forum pretty much equally. Ted didn't have to ask the question, but somebody was bound to ask what happened to ISS sooner or later. Which makes me wonder if anyone else other than Ted had asked the question, would y'alls butts still burn so badly about ISS being banned over ISS's behavior?

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by larryshores:

quote:

Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
That is possible. our mailman is a geezer just like me.

As I stated earlier in this cluster, I have had very little dealing with ISS, and basically all that is being put forth is one side of the situation since ISS can't defend himself.

That he got himself banned doesn't change things, he is no longer on the site, and can't threaten anyone.

Out of idle curiosity, other than the guy who claimed he was not a ranger, how do you see ISS being attacked?

The OP was an attack...to humiliate ISS in front of the whole AR crowd. AR will be lacking without ISS. In my whole life from little kid through adulthood...I never tried to get someone else to fight my battles. People 'tattling' to Saeed and Don over a PM is not very "man-like" IMHO. My last post...

Doc I don't think you are allowed to prescribe meds to humans. Don't test out your samples.

ISS is a different person depending on what time of the day it is. He and that fucktard hunting cats are the reason I left a few years ago, I had been on AR since it's inception.

He has mellowed a lot, he has threatened a lot of people. I don't really care if he was on the first launch of the space shuttle to Endor, the guy can't seem to remember to be nice.

I want to like Rich, he and I have traded stuff back and forth. I have forgiven 99% of the crap of our old days, it doesn't really matter any more.

He keeps shitting where he eats. I can't tell you how many times I have seen him banned from the classifieds section.

You know I am a vet too, but I did 20, and have lived through the hell of losing friends in combat multiple times, I may not always be the nicest guy on the planet, but I do my best. Some times I just want to be alone and given time to get over it. I spent a lot of time reading about PTSD, after my last trip when my own emotions started to run wild.

He might consider, doing what I did, and reading all the books by guys who are going through it and what they did to help themselves. One of the best one was a SEAL, who said fuck it, are you going to end up in jail for being an asshole?

I was not a ground infantry guy, I was an aircraft mechanic at an Baghram airifield in Afghanistan for 3 deployments, and I made over 10 other deployments in 20 years. We never should have been hit like we were, but it happens. About a year after I got home, things started to get weird, now nothing really phases me. I worked on controlling it, I don't remember the last time I felt like the world was closing in. Part of being a man is controlling your emotions. Internal compass and a relationship with God, has done wonders for my own personal jerk.

Does anyone honestly know what Rich went through, maybe nothing, maybe he is just an asshole. A million guys have had it unimagionably more bloody and deadly than I can even dream about. Maybe he is one of those, I get the feeling though that he is just Rich, being Rich. If PTSD really is his problem, I hope he gets help before he ends up in Idaho State Prison for letting his emotions run out of control.

BWW,

who was this hunting cats character? I searched the name, but all I get is discussions on actually hunting cats, mostly mountain lions.

Not that its acceptable in anyway, but anyone who would take ISS's "threats" seriously - can't be serious. He's a nice old guy - who's living in the past.

Worry about the guy you never hear from and show's up at your door - not the guy who tells you he's coming.

quote:

Originally posted by Macs B:
ISS has been on my blocked list since his BS claims of US Army Ranger fame were picked apart on a forum thread. I hate a POS fake more than anything, and he is that indeed. I can forgive all of the other crap that he spews but not when he denigrates the actions and valor of real men who did what he can only falsely claim. I look forward to seeing his picture on "the Wall" at Stolen Valor.com, they have been actively collecting examples of his lies for over a year now.

Well, apparently Rich belongs in the "real men" group. So where is your retraction and apology?

One other concept that folks overlook on internet sites, it that people on both sides of a confrontation say stuff during the heat of the moment.

How many of us stop and wonder why someone we do not actually know or have had a face to face interaction with, makes claims about people that they have no way of proving?

I wonder what the reaction of those defending ISS would have been if they were at the receiving end of one of his highly detailed threats.

And what he planned to do to them and their families? in meticulous details?

Is anyone actually defending ISS or merely stating that those that felt threatened are not willing to acknowledge their role in the exchange, and that continuing to attack someone that cannot offer any rebuttal seems a little unfair.

Saeed and company saw whatever threats were made, and they apparently were ugly.

Frankly, someone with the skills and training of an airborne ranger would by definition be capable of following through on said threat. I would take it seriously.

As to PTSD, I really doubt that is the source of the threats. PTSD doesn't work that way, and where I work I see a lot of it. It can be indirectly (such as someone who behaves badly when drinking using alcohol to alleviate some of his symptoms in a maladaptive way) but vets with PTSD are not a threat to others. Suicide is a different matter, but they do not become homicidal.

Hypervigilance and exaggerated startle responses, yes. Making detailed threats...no.

Suffice it to say, whatever he did do, from the descriptions it's not PTSD.

I enjoyed his posts, but then again, ISS never threatened me. What I read in public doesn't seem to go along with his conduct as reported. I think the guy has much to offer, but until he gets some serious help with anger management, I agree that Saeed and the mods did the only thing they could. This was not civilized conduct.

Rich had been a member on AR for more than a decade. He had over 20,000 posts. He attended a number of events hosted by AR members including a big bore shoot in Houston. Rich was personally known to many members of AR through such events as well as conventions like SCI. Rich hunted with several outfitters that frequent AR. He also had a reputation of having a short fuse . . . and never doing anything in response.

Should he have made threats, certainly not. That said, what would I have done if he had threatened me . . . considered the source, chuckled and ignored it.

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:

As to PTSD, I really doubt that is the source of the threats. PTSD doesn't work that way, and where I work I see a lot of it. It can be indirectly (such as someone who behaves badly when drinking using alcohol to alleviate some of his symptoms in a maladaptive way) but vets with PTSD are not a threat to others. Suicide is a different matter, but they do not become homicidal.

Tell that to Chris Kyle's widow.

I have no dog in this fight, except to see if this thread makes the 10 pages that was earlier suggested.

I really doubt the guy who shot Chris Kyle is suffering from PTSD.

If I recall right (and per Wiki it does say that...) the guy had a diagnosis of schizophrenia.

Saeed,

Throughout your posts on this and the posts of many others it sounds as though these threats and the report of them are recent. At least that is the impression I am being left with.

When was the last threat report send to you and/or your moderators?

I have no doubt they happened but did they start up again to cause ISS being Banned?


Rich says he got an email saying he was suspended. Nothing more. He assumed it was for a post he made reference our past presidents heritage and family; a very crude post in the political forum. As that post was removed that same day apparently by the moderators.

I understand that several suspensions can lead to a person being banned as they are apparently not getting the message.

However if the problem of threats stopped at least they got the message on that subject.


Again when was the last complaint and how long ago was that threat made before it was reported to you.

shane

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
I wonder what the reaction of those defending ISS would have been if they were at the receiving end of one of his highly detailed threats.

And what he planned to do to them and their families? in meticulous details?

quote:

Originally posted by npd345:
Saeed,

Throughout your posts on this and the posts of many others it sounds as though these threats and the report of them are recent. At least that is the impression I am being left with.

When was the last threat report send to you and/or your moderators?

I have no doubt they happened but did they start up again to cause ISS being Banned?


Rich says he got an email saying he was suspended. Nothing more. He assumed it was for a post he made reference our past presidents heritage and family; a very crude post in the political forum. As that post was removed that same day apparently by the moderators.

I understand that several suspensions can lead to a person being banned as they are apparently not getting the message.

However if the problem of threats stopped at least they got the message on that subject.


Again when was the last complaint and how long ago was that threat made before it was reported to you.

shane

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
I wonder what the reaction of those defending ISS would have been if they were at the receiving end of one of his highly detailed threats.

And what he planned to do to them and their families? in meticulous details?

I have no idea of the time frame of how this came about.

What I do know is the fact that we have suspended him before for one reason or another - it really makes no difference why.

He was also warned as to his future behavior.

Ultimately he would not listen, and got banned.

Others have been suspended before, came back and are still participating on the forums, because they no longer cause any reason to be suspended or banned.

I think people are reading too much into this.

This is an Internet discussion forum.

There are basic rules which we apply.

Anyone who we think seems to refuse to follow these rules, is no longer allowed on.

Every single discussion forum on the Net has rules - and I like to think we tend to have fewer than others.

One of them is being asked to be civil to each other.

Not much to ask there really, is it?

I know, we tend to get into name calling in the Political Forum - which is standard operating procedure whenever religion and politics are on the agenda.

quote:

Originally posted by Aaron Neilson:
Not that its acceptable in anyway, but anyone who would take ISS's "threats" seriously - can't be serious. He's a nice old guy - who's living in the past.

Worry about the guy you never hear from and show's up at your door - not the guy who tells you he's coming.

You shouldn't talk about Surestrike like that. He might find out.