Glad to see you guys are onto this scum bag. I thought I was one of the few that felt dirtier for having known them.

Unless the internet disappears or someone has extreme tunnel vision, I can't see how he'll ever book a hunt again. The results of a search using any engine are littered with negative reports.

with all the money they spend on marketing you would think they could make a good webpage...

looks like this was moving down the page again

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Originally posted by A.Dahlgren:
with all the money they spend on marketing you would think they could make a good webpage...

I agree it has to be one of the most poorly designed web pages I've ever seen

He must have spent all his marketing money on that coon-skin hat he's wearing....

It's St. Valentine's Day, is Blair feeling the love from AR?

Just got my advertising package from Blair Worldwide in the mail today. Yeah right! Into the shredder. I couldn't live with myself if a thief got a hold of it and booked a hunt with them.

To the top...

I am also still awaiting a call or email back from Todd Rice, who works with Jeff Blair, about the numerous trespassing issues I had with him in Mexico this past season

Don't hold your breath!!!

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Originally posted by drummondlindsey:
To the top...

I am also still awaiting a call or email back from Todd Rice, who works with Jeff Blair, about the numerous trespassing issues I had with him in Mexico this past season

I've thought there was something stinky about that guy ever since I talked to him on the phone a couple of years ago. I've seen him brag and post on another forum.

Just got a call from Blair Worldwide. Wanting to know if I was interested in doing a hunt with them this year. No thanks, I'm a member of Accurate Reloading and know about the sheep hunting thread. Click.

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Originally posted by JGRaider:

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Originally posted by drummondlindsey:
To the top...

I am also still awaiting a call or email back from Todd Rice, who works with Jeff Blair, about the numerous trespassing issues I had with him in Mexico this past season

I've thought there was something stinky about that guy ever since I talked to him on the phone a couple of years ago. I've seen him brag and post on another forum.

*EDIT*

Just talked with Todd, see my later post for details on that conversation

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Originally posted by M16:
Just got a call from Blair Worldwide. Wanting to know if I was interested in doing a hunt with them this year. No thanks, I'm a member of Accurate Reloading and know about the sheep hunting thread. Click.

I'm sure that the truth here on AR has hurt bookings but the only way it will really get to them is if we email a link to this thread to every hunter we know and tell them to do the same. We need the word to spread farther than just here on AR

Anyone know what's going on with that OTHER lying SOB Heathington?

Rumor was a Heathington was in bankruptcy court recently don't know if it was him.

Wow! Just got another call from them. The salesman told me they were cleared three times by the Arizona Attorney General and also cleared by the SCI ethics committee! So everything is fine now.

I thought Heathington was dying of cancer?

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Originally posted by M16:
Wow! Just got another call from them. The salesman told me they were cleared three times by the Arizona Attorney General and also cleared by the SCI ethics committee! So everything is fine now.

Should have asked him why he hung up on you then

Did you tell him to put down the Kool-Aid?

I am an outspoken individual and I am quick to jump on guys like Ray Atkinson and Jeff Blair because of their shady business practices.

I had issues with Todd Rice this past season in Sonora Mexico and was quite pissed when he never called me back about some trespassing issues I was having. I voiced my concerns on this thread

Todd called me today and while the conversation was terse at times I feel that he was sincere when he said that he wanted no trouble in Mexico. I try to withhold judgement about an individual until I have personal dealings with them and I had considered this issue with Todd unresolved because he had never called me back in late January as he said he would do. After our conversation today I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and move forward

I asked Todd specific questions about this issue here and I agreed with him on one point and disagreed with him on another. I do not believe he is working for Jeff Blair anymore so thats good. He asked me not to repeat our conversation and I told him that I wouldnt and I will honor that

Drummond

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Originally posted by M16:
Wow! Just got another call from them. The salesman told me they were cleared three times by the Arizona Attorney General and also cleared by the SCI ethics committee! So everything is fine now.

I wonder why the Arizona Attorney General cleared him three times. Usually once an individual wins a case they do not keep going back trying to win again.

More Blair smoke screen and BS?

I would bet on that. In addition the AAG would be for criminal acts not civil issues.

Getting a little low on the thread list, so bringing up to the top

Just kicking it up there again.

BTT

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Originally posted by Mike Smith:
Considering all the legal threats and lawyering up that has gone on I think the change is to protect assests. Take it out of one spouses name and put it in another so it cant be touched. Still run and control it but keeps it out of any legal actions moving forward. Just a guess though. If it was me, well I wouldnt be in that situation, but if it was, change the name as well. As long as most folks recognize the name and the story....just saying.
Still no sympathy here!

If people who have been scammed by this guy. If you sent a check or any type of payment VIA USPS, contact a local US Postal Inspector, using the US mail in a commission of a crime is a felony and they may want to be talking to him. I would also contact the FBI, Secret Service for Credit Card fraud or just plain fraud over state lines.

Bump

Just wanted to bring this back to the top as they are getting active in sales right now. Got a flier from them this week and now a phone message (how the he!! did he get my phone number?) from "Jeff" saying they wanted to talk to me about cancellation hunts. Not happening.

I used to get those all the time. They have stopped for some reason.

I haven't received anything from them after emailing them to never send me anything ever again last year.

Perhaps others should do the same and notify them that you want them to remove your phone number, e-mail and anything else from their marketing efforts.

BTT!

oops, fell off the front page again...

btt.

this really needs to stay front and center

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I had issues with Todd Rice this past season in Sonora Mexico and was quite pissed when he never called me back about some trespassing issues I was having. I voiced my concerns on this thread

I don't know what kind of issues you had in Mexico about trespassing, it is none of my business, but I can assure you that YOU DON'T WANT THAT KIND OF PROBLEM DOWN THERE.

I hunted down there for 17 years and I never had a problem because I was always aware of where I was and that their laws, well they kind of make them up as they go.

I know four hunters from Temple Texas who had a little issue about trespassing and even though they had crossed a fence, looking for a deer that had been shot, they were lucky and got out for all the cash they had on hand, all their rifles, clothing, food, two high rack trucks, and one fairly new truck. They were escorted to the bridge and were watched until they were on our side. All for looking for a wounded deer and trespassing on some politically connected ranchers land. It is a different world down there.

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Originally posted by swifter 220:

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I had issues with Todd Rice this past season in Sonora Mexico and was quite pissed when he never called me back about some trespassing issues I was having. I voiced my concerns on this thread

I don't know what kind of issues you had in Mexico about trespassing, it is none of my business, but I can assure you that YOU DON'T WANT THAT KIND OF PROBLEM DOWN THERE.

I hunted down there for 17 years and I never had a problem because I was always aware of where I was and that their laws, well they kind of make them up as they go.

I know four hunters from Temple Texas who had a little issue about trespassing and even though they had crossed a fence, looking for a deer that had been shot, they were lucky and got out for all the cash they had on hand, all their rifles, clothing, food, two high rack trucks, and one fairly new truck. They were escorted to the bridge and were watched until they were on our side. All for looking for a wounded deer and trespassing on some politically connected ranchers land. It is a different world down there.

Todd Rice knows exactly what my partner and I think of trespassing and knows that there will be no more warnings given. Todd threatened to sue me for bringing it up on this exact thread but I feel that people need to know what the expectations are when going to Mexico. When you book a hunt in Mexico you need to go with people that have experience and know what they're doing or it can be dangerous

I did not go with an outfitter; we found a ranch and leased it from the owner. I have heard too many horror stories about hunting down there with guides.

Hate to hear you had a problem. Mexico is a special place to hunt, BUT, with all the crap going on along the border, I quit hunting there, in 06. When December rolls around, I am like a junkie off the stuff.

I think you should start a new thread about the Rice guy and leave this one alone. This thread is about Blair and Blair ONLY!

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Originally posted by boliep:
I think you should start a new thread about the Rice guy and leave this one alone. This thread is about Blair and Blair ONLY!

Todd Rice has worked with Jeff Blair. This is a quote from this very thread. Jeff Blair books a lot of Todd Rice's hunters...

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Originally posted by BLAIR WORLDWIDE:
The person you talked to is Todd Rice, owner of Sonoran Outfitters. Who is also a salesman for Blair Worldwide Hunting for the past 2+ years.

So in essence we are still discussing Blair Worldwide as Todd has been one of his representatives for years

Moving it back to the top, you would think he would repay just to end this but Jeff must love being the bad guy.