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Originally posted by larryshores:
FROM CONSERVATION FORCE

Larry,

Until the last few days we were not aware there were any issues on AR and we are not aware of the current issues. We have forwarded approximately 52 thousand dollars to Stu's bank account and charged no fee whatsoever. The account does pay our bank wire transfer charges and credit card charges, i.e. the Fund for Stu bears those out-of-pocket expenses, but not our banking, accounting and labor costs. From the origin we have advertised the special Fund in the Hunting Report and separately in the World Conservation Force Bulletin and the Quarterly Report/periodic fundraiser.

We have asked Stu and his wife about his status and needs on several occasions and understand he is not ready to return to work but we have not policed it more than that. Our involvement began on October 16 at which time we transferred approximately $2,800 within one day, on October 17. Since that time we have made a series of transfers while sensitive to foreign transfer costs on our end, as well as his own bank charges, but in all cases upon request from Stu or his wife.

I hope this helps.

Best,
John


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On 9/18/2013 8:20 PM, Larry Shores wrote:
Good evening.

Would it be possible to publish a statement about how much money was raised for Stu Taylor? A lot of questions are being raised on Accurate Reloading. I think a statement may help raise more money for him.

I have given Stu money directly twice and purchased one if the hunts for his benefit.

Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

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I see people who have the big picture in mind on page 8. I'm hoping we can all keep the big picture in mind. Thanks for the update Larry.

Brett

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Originally posted by larryshores:
Let's concentrate on getting Stu more money. He needs it from what I am told.

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Originally posted by BigBBear:
I have seen enough mention and noise here that a couple of things need to be said regarding our new 501.c.3 just so there is no confusion and you have confidence that something is coming. This is of course not the way we wanted to do a roll out but it seemed something was needed here.
As has been mentioned we are in the process of forming an organization to deal with injured PH’s. We are not ready to roll out yet due to a couple of items. I am not sure how many different posts this is being referred to but this one seems to have the most attention and I will not search out the other references so this is it.
First, final IRS approval is not in our hands and until then we cannot directly operate the organization under nonprofit status. There are things we can do however and we are working to get those items moving within IRS guidelines.
Second, I do not want to discuss names here (our org) as although we have domain names secured we want to announce the org when we have the website finalized. It will be a few more weeks and we can then do that.
A little history in that many of you will remember when John Greeff was attacked by a leopard in 2010 and I organized (with huge help from many of you) a fund raising effort. This was of course successful and I was asked to become part of the Something More Safaris (SMS) board to do more of the fundraising. Sometime later, Paul Reed then also joined the board and began to help me with fundraising and organizing around helping PH's. We then ran into complications with the mission of SMS and what we felt we needed to do so Paul and I began organizing a new 501.c.3 organization with the knowledge and concurrence of SMS. All of the paperwork and associated actions have been completed and submitted to the IRS for the new organization.
As Larry Shores said, bureaucracy is a pain in the ass but it is the way to get it done and we are in process of that. We then formed a board and asked Larry Shores to be our 3rd board member which he has agreed to do and also his accounting firm will validate our financial statements and tax returns so that all is clean and clear. I only mention these things so you can see we all had a foundation in fundraising for injured PH's with Paul and I on the former board and Larry of course being very instrumental in the support we gave to John Greeff. We all deeply cared and thus, this is what got us together.
At this point, we are trying to define how to function and do business as a "for profit" until we get our approval but we do not want to jeopardize our long term goals and mission by doing something in haste. Painful yes, because we could do things but this is our direction for the next few weeks. As soon as we have the opportuntiy Stu will certainly be one of our firt intentions to help.
FYI, a lot of regulars have been involved in some level of coaching and advising us on getting this established. We will have a "real" announcement for you hopefully in October with plans to have some face to face with key people at DSC and SCI. Notables on here other than the board members that are somewhat aware of our plans are Saeed, Dave Fulson, Buzz Charlton, Myles, Frik Muller, Ivan Carter, Martin Peters. We ask that you please be patient and I equally encourage you to do as Larry Shores said and that is to help in any way possible via direct contributions, Conservation Force, etc. We may have a way soon to help facilitate funding but that is unclear at this time.
Thanks and I only wrote this at this time to clear up references and let you know a tool and resource was coming. Saeed has agreed to allow us to use AR as an announcement platform which we will do. I apologize but I am not as profilic on AR as I have been and if you want to make sure you talk to me, Paul, or Larry, you can of course post which they may see you are welcome to PM me.
Thanks for reading,
Larry

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Originally posted by larryshores:
Milo;

While something like you discussed is certainly a worthwhile idea, it is not what I had in mind. I had in mind helping those that were hurt already. Further, I have my doubts if the IRS would grant tax exempt status for an organization that subsidizes private insurance.

Insurance for PH's in multiple countries is a FAR more complex matter than would appear on the surface. Arranging insurance, if at all possible, and the subsidy of the insurance for an entire industry would likely end up being a full time job for more than one person. Frankly, I do not have the time.

When it comes to insurance, I think a far more workable solution is to have the professional hunters association in each of the respective countries find a policy that is LEGAL in that country. After finding the policy & the pricing, add a surcharge to every safari to pay for this insurance.

Of course, insurance is only good if they pay the claims. I understand that Stu's policy did not pay. No idea why.

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Originally posted by larryshores:
Milo;

While something like you discussed is certainly a worthwhile idea, it is not what I had in mind. I had in mind helping those that were hurt already. Further, I have my doubts if the IRS would grant tax exempt status for an organization that subsidizes private insurance.

Insurance for PH's in multiple countries is a FAR more complex matter than would appear on the surface. Arranging insurance, if at all possible, and the subsidy of the insurance for an entire industry would likely end up being a full time job for more than one person. Frankly, I do not have the time.

When it comes to insurance, I think a far more workable solution is to have the professional hunters association in each of the respective countries find a policy that is LEGAL in that country. After finding the policy & the pricing, add a surcharge to every safari to pay for this insurance.

Of course, insurance is only good if they pay the claims. I understand that Stu's policy did not pay. No idea why.

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Originally posted by larryshores:
I understand that Stu's policy did not pay. No idea why.

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Originally posted by Todd Williams:

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Originally posted by larryshores:
I understand that Stu's policy did not pay. No idea why.

Larry,

I have no way of knowing if this is true or not, but from what I understand, his policy did not pay out because he was insured in Zim, but hunting in Moz at the time. The insurance company weaseled out on that technicality. Again, just what I heard. Don't know the level of validity to this statement.