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No, I haven't done it yet. I figure if nothing earth shattering goes our way by mid-next week, I'll go ahead and concede and get it done. I'm told by the processor once I get him the EIN he'll have my ITN # shortly thereafter. Have you done yours yet? | |||
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No Sir...kind of doing the same. I went ahead and got my EIN though. Then I went and met with Coppersmith people yesterday. Got them all they need to go ahead. Then we are going to wait a bit. I don't leave til May 7th. Coppersmith told me that May 1st is when the enforcement is supposed to kick in full bore. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Make sure you don't check anything other than sole proprietor or you will have to file an additional tax return; partnerships, for example, require a 1065 and if you file them late, you are penalized. One of my employees just transferred to Hawaii and we received notice we must provide TDI. Another waste of time and energy. The problem with regulations is that new ones don't replace old ones - they just add to the total pile of regulations we must adhere to. No wonder entrepreneurship is record low levels. | |||
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I actually have an EIN and an old AES account from back when I used to ship t-shirts over-seas (music merch biz). I see detailed instructions on how to get an EIN, how about to actually create a shipment on the AES system? | |||
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this silly, idiotic s--t is why i rent/use camp rifles Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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Jerry, you are winning me over for sure. As long as this regulation/law or whatever is in effect I won't take a gun outside the USA. In Argentina, Dr. Juan Pozzi has all makes and models of very fine firearms, where I hunt in Moz. my PH friend can provide a .500Heym, .458 Winchester, .416 Rigby, 300 H & H and a 30-06 or two. No need to risk it. Hope all the work being put forward by lots of AR folks sees some results. Larry Sellers SCI(International)Life Member R8 Blaser Sabatti "trash" Double Shooter
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Good luck for those who hunt in established hunting areas with all the bells, whistles and adequate supply of hunting rifles. However in a lot of places off the beaten path in Africa and elsewhere the ability to take one's own rifles is a big factor. In addition anyone taking trips for sheep/goats, Central Asia for example, where long range shooting is the norm wouldn't be comfortable or responsible taking a 300 yard or longer shot with a loaner rifle using ballistic reticles, etc. Besides, a lot of hunters including me, just like to hunt with our own rifles with which we are familiar or otherwise have a preference for. Going on an expensive hunt and not being able to use the guns I am used to/have some sentimental attachment to is a big turn off for me. | |||
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Not hunting with my own rifle or a weapon/scope I am familiar with would significantly curtail my hunting. I leave in less than a month with the Admiral/Subsailor74 to hunt in the Save and do some fly fishing in the highlands. I am really uncomfortable with signing up as a weapons exporter even if I am doing so to get an exemption. It is interesting how eager we are to sign up for gun registration so we can hunt africa. I most likely will end up signing up for this backdoor gun registration to hunt africa. This has to be the most backass approach I have seen. In the next few years we will end up with literally tens of thousands of people signed up as weapons exporters (to get an exemption) and single EIN entities created. Mike | |||
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Well stated Mike- and for all the reasons you cite, I am having a professional exporter do the paperwork for me. It is worth the nominal fee to me. | |||
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I prefer hunting with my own weapons and have always pretty much done that. The issue here is not the cost to abide by this new Govt. crap, but whether to submit to more Govt. regulation (gun and ammo registration). Plus the real life fact you just might have your guns confiscated (or worse) by some ill informed, gun hating, Liberal Govt. nut working the counter. Hope all goes well for you guys and good luck on your hunt in the Save. Larry Sellers SCI(International)Life Member R8 Blaser Sabatti "trash" Double Shooter | |||
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Sitting in San Antonio airport waiting to head to Atlanta and then Joburg on the way to Zim with CMS. Did all the paperwork, ITN, etc. already had global entry. Took me 15 minutes and so far all is good. We'll see what happens on the return flights. "Never, ever, book a hunt with Jeri Booth or Detail Company Adventures" | |||
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Does anyone know what the process is to export a rifle to a friend in Africa. Who can do it and what are the costs? 465H&H | |||
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Let us know
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sent you a PM so as not to hijack this lengthy thread.... | |||
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The Hunting report sent out an email update saying the effective date for implementation is May 1. Like others here please contact your representative and voice your opposition to this unlawful act. Tim | |||
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Good news so far. Here are a couple of questions: 1. Did the airline ask for the ITN? 2. Did anyone from C&BP ask for your ITN and actually inspect your firearms and did you see them actually look-up your ITN and compare SN's. 3. Did TSA ask for the ITN? Lastly, just an observation, I've read two differing accounts/reports of when this was "supposed" to become effective, 2-3 Apr and 1 May. Not sure which is correct but it will be interesting to hear if ITN's are going to start being asked for before those dates. Forgot to add my personal plan for Phase 2. With Congress in recess this week I'm trying to get in to see my Congressrats face to face while they are supposed to be back in their home districts/offices. If not with them, directly with rankest staffer I can get in to see during the break. | |||
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Talked with Buzz about camp guns before we left in case I had to hand off my guns to BaxterB at the Seattle airport. Today Buzz told me he has a lovely Blaser .375 I could have used.  I wouldn't have been able to put up a hunt report.  Cheers Jim ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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It is my understanding that they are asking for ITN's at JFK. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I went through LAX on Friday morning. They did not ask for an ITN. | |||
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Anybody tried to take a NE .500 or Gibbs .505 or NE .577 through? | |||
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Not yet...but going to try a .500 NE in a month. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Did you go check in with C&BP pre-boarding or just the usual TSA check in? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Tim, I tried to answer you on AR but for some reason I am blocked. Thanks for your info, it does help! 465H&H | |||
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I called the customs folks at JFK earlier this week and the person in the export section I spoke to didn't know anything about this issue. Tom Z NRA Life Member | |||
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My understanding through my travel agent is that they stopped someone from proceeding at JFK without an ITN. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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This week I will start the process to sign up for this new gun registration government regulations for Sako 85 in 9.3x62 that I am taking to the Save. I will never look down on Australian gun owners who turned in their guns. My gut is this ein aes tin and other government acronyms will come back to bite me and other registrants. I used to have a NYC rifle and shotgun permit. The permit could be maintained even if ones residence moved outside of NYC. A few years back NYPD sent a letter asking me to register all weapons not just the few rifles and shotguns I had on my NYC permit. I sent back the permit. What prevents the federal government from asking ein aes tin registrants for complete gun resgistration? Mike | |||
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Excuse my French gentlemen, but Feds get my blood boiling... The fucking motherfuckers... It's like I'm back in commie land " Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins. When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar. Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move... Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies... Only fools hope to live forever “ Hávamál” | |||
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Beretta............ When you buy a gun, you're already in the system. No, they don't have the make and model or serial number but they already know that you went through a dealer, had a background check (NICS) and either were approved or disapproved. And when you visit Customs for the 4457, whether or not they log in the make model and serial numbers, doesn't matter. You're in the system. Am I gonna let them take my legally purchased firearms from me? Not til I don't need them anymore. And only then from my "Cold, Dead Fingers" All we can do at this point is either use camp rifles or comply. Calls, letters to our Congressmen will either get them off their butts and get something done or not. All we can do is try. Yes, it's another attempt at discouraging us from travelling out of the country with our firearms and enjoying them but, I don't spend the time and money on my firearms to let them sit home. I will comply until it's time not to. | |||
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Rick, It's not entering the system that worries me. It's being entrapped by a undefined regulatory structure where I am creating tax id, signing up as a weapons exporter to get an excemption, all to take a legally owned firearm bought in the system on a hunting trip outside the us. There is just something seriously wrong when the exception to a category - weapons exporter - requires you to do all the requirements to sign up for that category. Call me paranoid but I really don't think this law was so poorly or more correctly convolutedly written because of some sloppy legislative drafting. This law was hidden in some other core issue legislation for a purpose. We are all focused on jumping thru the hoops to get all legally squared to take our guns with us on our vacation. I think there will be a small service industry to facilitate the hoops we have to jump. The issue is the legal consequences of these items - what legal liabilities were are incuring beyond being in the traditional firearms purchase system. I just don't think this rule came into being by random or poor legislative drafting. It is intended for a purpose. Therefore, the legal liabilities of the steps we take ein, aes, tin have significantly more additional legal consequences than just being in the legal firearms ownership system. Mike | |||
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Just the usual check in.
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Just curious, what do outfitters charge for rifle rent and ammo? Tim | |||
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One safari company I like says three bucks per round and thirty bucks per day. _______________________ | |||
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Yep, another charge to a hunter. " hey they will need guns, let's skin them" At the same time, flying with just carry on and not worrying about guns and ammo might be worth the price. Something to ponder... " Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins. When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar. Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move... Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies... Only fools hope to live forever “ Hávamál” | |||
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Not to downplay this by any means, as it royally pisses me off the same as it does you guys. However, I used to live next door to a gov't employee in Ok City that got killed in the OKC bombing (God rest his soul). We had many conversations in the front yard about gov't intervention into the lives of private citizens. I made the comment to him that I'd never been in trouble in my life. He told me that it didn't make any difference, and that the feds had a file full of personal information on every swingin' d*&$ out there. They know your buying habits, all of your personal info, obviously all of your financial wherewithall, etc already. | |||
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of the 8-9 camp guns i have used, about half were free( including ammo) and 1/4 cost ammo only and about 1/4 cost a daily fee (usually about $25/day) and ammo costs( about $2/round). bear in mind these were DG hunts so not much ammo was used. i imagine a shoot-em-up PG hunt would entail higher costs. and yes it is really nice to walk up, check in 1 bag and go on about your business with no import license/customs hassle/ re-entry BS. much less stress with no worries about lose. Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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Department of Homeland Security Johnson was taken to task about this situation this morning by numerous elected officials and (and more will be calling) was told to "fix it" or risk questions on funding. If anything come from it, I'll post it. Keep calling and writing your elected officials. Karl Evans | |||
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Thanks Karl keep us posted | |||
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Outstanding! Fix what? Make it work or make it go away? The only thing that's gonna make me happy is if it goes away! . | |||
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 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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