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-my Ruger bolt action lott,that is. [URL= ]100yds iron sights,off the bench[/URL] This was the third time this week that I got one in the center bullseye.I am spending time training my eyes how to shoot.When I shoot offhand,I got to aim about a foot to the left, at 100 yds, to hit the bullseye.But when shooting off the bench,I can aim almost dead on. | ||
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look sub minute of cape buffalo to me Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Like Mike said ... That'll work. Mike -------------- DRSS, Womper's Club, NRA Life Member/Charter Member NRA Golden Eagles ... Knifemaker, http://www.mstarling.com | |||
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??? Not sure I get this. The original poster is practicing to improve his skills. He shoots left a foot when shooting off-hand. The fact that he admits he's not perfect and is trying to work on it is pretty impressive (and that group ain't bad either with Irons!). Why the rolly-eyes? Regards, Robert ****************************** H4350! It stays crunchy in milk longer! | |||
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Have you followed the Shootaway saga? If you were not a reader as far back as the shooting ballerina times, you may be missing some backstory. Some might suggest an adjustment to the sights of course, but that would be a pedestrian approach. Here's a classic post:
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That's good shooting. Must have the sights glued on in exactly the right place. Steve "He wins the most, who honour saves. Success is not the test." Ryan "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Stalin Tanzania 06 Argentina08 Argentina Australia06 Argentina 07 Namibia Arnhemland10 Belize2011 Moz04 Moz 09 | |||
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rnovi -- the guy is a maroon -- he uses one scope ring to hold his 458 winmag scope on feels that improper cleaning can lead to a split stock wears a skidoo helmet when shooting never cleans his barrel with anything but JB bore paste .. EVER loads to so high over pressure that he can't reload the SECOND load. swears up and down that a .458 barrel is shot out in less than 500 rounds.. due to PRESSURE uses a torque and a screwdriver-as-mallet to beat his sights into place .. though he now claims to be shooting the bullseye Couldn't hit any side of a barn, from WITHIN it, on most of his groups variously ranging from village idiot to out right dangerous to bystanders opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Thanks Steve! I am glad I finally got things straightened out.The other day I took out my new Ruger Lott and decided to prepare it in the same way I prepared the Ruger Lott you saw me shoot in the vids.I bedded the barrel lug with acraglass,then used loctite on my guard srews and made sure my sight would not move by hitting it on the side with a plastic screwdriver handle.I then waited a few days and took it to the range to zero and then glue my sights at 100yds once and forever.I decided to fire the first shot using my second leaf sight first and see where I was at.To my total joy,with just one shot, I was in the center of center! I then removed the sight screw,put on red loctite and screwed it down tight useing my torque wrench driver.I also applied plenty of red loctite on both sides of the leaf sight and let it set. The rifle is now ready for safari. | |||
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How's the barrel look? you got the rifling worn out yet? Keep it up shootaway, we're rooting for ya! "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"-Carl Sagan | |||
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30-06 Spfd will take 100% of the game in No. America. God packs a 30-06. Moses opts for .308 Win. | |||
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I've got a really dumb question. Why would you have to hold a foot to the left offhand when the rifle shoots point of aim from the bench? I might be able to conceptualize the opposite if someone flinched (based on offhand comptetition shooting, getting on the trigger tended to be low right in my experience). I would expect the flinch to be from the bench not from offhand. Oh!, I think I just got it. Shooting from the bench, rifle doesn't move much due to sandbags, shooting offhand -- do we have a flinch? | |||
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It could be a flinch or a jerking of the trigger. You jerk the trigger to keep from flinching you know. | |||
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A foot difference, that's not a flinch, it's a seizure! Sorry shootaway, just joshin, Chuck Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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Here is what happens when I aim for bullseye.The shots in the black where fired after I corrected my aim.[URL= ]100yds[/URL] I need only aim four inches to the left when shooting off the bench.This lead is only needed when shooting at a large black circle.The circle generally apppears twice,side by side,when I look at it through my sights.For some reason I don't have this issue when I am shooting at a large orange cirle,with a smaller white bullseye in the center. | |||
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Guys- This Moron is just pulling your chains! Dont waste bandwidth on it!-Rob Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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I decided to bring my open sighted 30/30 lever action to the range and see if I have to hold at the same place at 100yds as I do with my lott.I forgot that I bought it for this purpose.It turns I do.As a general rule,if I want to hit the center of the target at 100yds,I need to hold about 4 inches to the left of the end of the target or black circle I see furthest to the left or about a foot and a half from the target on the right.I think I might have confused some.To make things clearer,I'll try to put up a drawing of how I see the target and where I need to aim. | |||
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If you would use the same eye standing and sitting to aim, the problem might go away. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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I have no problem seeing two targets when I use iron sights after I had my operation. JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
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577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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"Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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and these are properly adjusted sights? wow opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Shootaway, I find that geting a good sight picture, and then closing my eyes right as I start to squeeze the trigger, helps my accuracy, if you don't see the target then you can't see the flinch! "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"-Carl Sagan | |||
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Ken.... "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so. " - Ronald Reagan | |||
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I find shooting in the northern hemisphere and the spin of the earth pushes any bullet over 200grs I fire dead on to the right, hence the need to aim left. The closer to equator I am shooting, the less pronouced this effect is. I tried to explain the problem in shootaway language. If it was gooble-d-gook, I have accomplished my task. Hunting: Exercising dominion over creation at 2800 fps. | |||
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Duckear and I know one another, and have shot together before. I am just the opposite: I have to pull the trigger on Thursday in order for my bullet to strike the target on Friday. I think it's a flinch. Garrett | |||
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Is that because of slow lock time or are you just using a slow powder? NRA Endowment Life Member | |||
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Shootaway, when you shoot standing up it sounds like you are griping the rifle so tightly that you are bending the barrel to the right like a banana pointing off to the right, so you compensate by aiming 4 or 5 inches to the left. When you shoot from the bench you are not torquing the forearm to the right so the point of impact is not off so much. And what this about seeing two black target bulls? Are you zoning out your eyes like someone thats trying to see double? Try closing the eye thats not look across the sights. I hope it is you master eye that is looking across the sights. Close the weak eye or wear a blinder patch on it. If you see two cape buffalos standing side by side shoot at the left one. | |||
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Try wearing orange contacts. | |||
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I've got presbyopia. Without glasses, I can see the target fine, but the sights are a blur. When I put the QR scope on, without glasses I now see FOUR danged little orange circles in the scope--that problem is brand new in the past 6 months (last time i shot scoped), with the glasses on, there's only one orange circle. Probably starting to get cataracs or something. I gave up trying to figure out which of the four to shoot at, and just decided to wear the glasses. Steve "He wins the most, who honour saves. Success is not the test." Ryan "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Stalin Tanzania 06 Argentina08 Argentina Australia06 Argentina 07 Namibia Arnhemland10 Belize2011 Moz04 Moz 09 | |||
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While I was dry fire practicing I noticed someting that may be the cause for all of this.When I look down the sights with the rifle off the shoulder, such that the stock is higher than the shoulder,with my head straight up, I see a single target.But when I lower the stock back on to my shoulder,and have to bend my head down to look through the sights,the target appears as a double or triple.In other words,when I look at it straight,I see it once and when I look at it with my head bent down and see it at an angle,it appears at least twice.When I am shooting off the bench I have the butt end of the stock on bags and it is high enough so that I don't need to bend my head. | |||
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shootaway, See an ophthalmologist. Could be myasthenia gravis, multiple sclerosis, or some congenital palsy of the cranial nerves, lazy eye, no dominant eye ... ambidextrous eyes and no brain selectivity? Brain damage? | |||
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I think it is postpartum depression. JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
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Shootaway, I know the guys enjoy giving you crap (my comment about the seizure included), but here's a thought. Screw the bench, adjust your sights or scope for how you shoot off hand. Your group isn't bad at all for offhand except for a couple of fliers. If you can keep it in a dinner plate offhand consistently, you're probably shooting better than lots of folks. Chuck Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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Thanks Chuck. I am just doing my homework and trying to make it to the second grade! | |||
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Attach the bench to your gun; see one target and have a good, steady rest wherever you are. | |||
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Jeez- You guys just keep feeding the Troll! You know hes just screwing with you all!-Rob Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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What can I say? Olcrip, Nuclear Grade UBC Ret. NRA Life Member, December 2009 Politicians should wear Nascar Driver's jump suites so we can tell who their corporate sponsers are! | |||
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