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Good to hear Rodney... The PH will let you seat out further and be plenty strong but you dont have to wait... the 416 CZ with its crossbolts is a great and cost effective way to go. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Should probably wait and do the .550 on the big PH, but I don't think I can wait that long. Besides as a working man the budget needs to be observed so one at a time. So should the doner rifle be a ZKK602 in .458Win/ Lott or CZ 416 Rigby. Will the 416 CZ's mag well accomadate the Gibbs case or will mods be needed. Problim is I've only one CZ in .416 and many in .458 would like to keep the .416 as is so another purchase may be needed. So many problims... R. | |||
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Oops was lost in la la rifleland some where, should have placed my previous post under the .550Gibbs thread. But what the heck the cartridges are very much alike and require likewise actions. Both the 577BME and .550GIBBS require strong actions and from there become a contest between man and rifle. R. | |||
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Only a couple more weeks till it goes boom but this friggn' monster already scares me 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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buck up young jedi... The 550 Gibbs is a very moderate recoiling cartridge, and I expect for those who only wish to replicate the great 577NE 3" ballistics this thing will be in the category of "fun gun". Today my gunsmith starts on the 577 BME; contouring the barrel, and letting all the parts get acquainted... Rich DRSS Knowledge not shared is knowledge lost... | |||
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Great news Rich! 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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The 577BME chamber reamer is set so that you can load 3.6" overall length as some will set up their guns, but also you can set bullets out further for a length of 3.85" on 750 gr, which is what I'd do to magazine to handle them, say in an Enfield. That extra length allows 160 gr ball powder. And with all powders that I loaded to fill cases, when set at 3.6" that I did all the testing for, when loading out to 3.85", allows another 150 fps at least still at medium pressures. ED MZEE WA SIKU | |||
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So loaded long single loaded or larger actions mag fed 750 @ 2400 with moderate preasure and max at the shorter oal is that right? Thanks again Ed 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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The shorter length loading at 3.6" is moderate at 2350-2400, and loaded longer 3.85" 2500 plus still moderate, that is the W 748 load. All loads I put out were moderate so cases will go 20 rounds.... Now to get it on as they say and get 65K pressures use full loads of H335 with 750 gr..Ed MZEE WA SIKU | |||
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well thats good news for the recoil junkies 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Ed, and the group, I loaded some with the 135 gr charge of H335 and WW748 with the 600gr JSP and will shoot them over the chrono tomorrow if the daylight holds out. If not, Sunday after church. Ed, what would be the maximum loads with H335 or WW748 you would go to? 155 to 165gr of either? I guess we will know by next Thursday afternoon. The plan each trip is to increase 5 grains, and see what the rifle tells me. My oal is 3.72". Rich DRSS Knowledge not shared is knowledge lost... | |||
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Probably with the 748. Little less with 335....Please tell me how much the 550 Gibbs holds of 748 when full, then it is easier to predict and work up loads. Ed MZEE WA SIKU | |||
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Rich should be going "Boom" soon with the 577...stay tuned... Bump for load info. Bring in the New Year with a "Boom"! 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Any progress on the build, I want to see what the results are. I have it narrowed down between the 505 Empire, 450 Rigby, or this new monster 577. Tax returns are in the near future and I need a new big bore toy! Thanks, Johnson | |||
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Rich will post Thursday after initial testing... Was postponed a tad due to gunsmiths family ilness... Hornady said at the shot show will have dies in stock in 6 weeks approx. Thanks for wanting to build one... 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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I will have the reamers and barreled action at my guy's shop in the morning, and we may get a test round or two fired that afternoon or Thursday. Rich DRSS Knowledge not shared is knowledge lost... | |||
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Rich has some interesting news... 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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my gunsmith's wife's cancer issues are dealt with, and he got home today. He called me and suggested as soon as I could get over there in the morning we would chamber and headspace the barrel. I will take it out and test fire it asap. Stock is not ready, so I will wrap a shop towel around the barrel in front of the receiver and do the "Handcannon" thing. Rich DRSS Knowledge not shared is knowledge lost... | |||
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Rich- Glad your smith and wife are gaining a bit. Remember it's not a weak kneed Nyati. Maybe lock it in heavy vise or least put it in some kinda stock. Ed MZEE WA SIKU | |||
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common sense prevailed. We have a sporterized military stock to test fit the barreled action in. It will be a single shot, but safer to fire that way. I have Tom McCoy's recoil management system to soften the blow. Rich DRSS Knowledge not shared is knowledge lost... | |||
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Hey Rich I don't remember where i cashed in... you called me just after a goodly dose of cold meds and past my bed time... military stocks generally work if you cut them off infront of the action, so any sized barrel can fit opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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so what is up, any news yet ? best regards peter | |||
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Rich should have some news soon. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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The 577 Belted Magnum Express was born today! Rich pulled the trigger on the first round today. Much thanks to Rich and Ed!!! We no longer have an air cat 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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What pics do you want to see? Rich can post pics of his gun and I have posted pics of the rounds. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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To hell with pictures. I want to see a video of someone shooting that beast. Great job in following the development to completion. Frank | |||
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dial up "youtube" and type in 550 Gibbs Rich DRSS Knowledge not shared is knowledge lost... | |||
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTnCqaHJSEc Here is its little brother by .035: Load it up or down as much as you want. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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