rip-off,

sorry to hear you don't earn enough money to afford a trip to Vegas...maybe we need to take up a collection for you. Wouldn't want your poverty to keep you from engaging in a little close order drill.

Stats: 5'14", 250, 75" wingspan. Just played a little football in college, defensive end and OLB, depends on your terminology. 3-4 or 4-3 defense.

Army: Paratrooper school, Ranger School, Jungle Warfare School in Panama, RVN August 3rd, 1969 thru September 13th, 1971. MACV-SOG Military Advisory Command Vietnam-Studies & Observations Group. Advisory Team 17, Ly Tin, Advisory Team 31 Quang Ngai, Co G/75th Inf, attached to the 23rd Inf Division, Co2/CoG/ 75th Inf, attached to the 198th LIB, CCN, last stop; Advisor assigned to the 77th ARVN Ranger Battalion, I Corps and points north.

See this is where rip-off crosses the boundary and places himself in harm's way...he thinks he is still playing his schoolyard schtick to an adoring crowd.
Hypothetically of course, there exists the distinct possibility is that he may be getting into a tussle with somebody who may have killed, hmmmmmmmmmmm, say fifty-one..., enemy combatants in face to face small group combat, perhaps two with a knife and one by strangulation. Hypothetically, of course, anybody that would do three tours in a special combat unit and start on a fourth might have learned one or two little things that would cause a permanent disability...hypothetically, of course.

rip-off may be quite a flannelmouth on the internet; and he may have been around a little, or a lot. But it is always silly to call somebody out that you know nothing about until after you make the challenge.

Heck, you could have ended up with somebody who got to liking the killing and that greasy, slick feeling blood has running down your knifeblade and onto your hand. Somebody the military sent home before that fourth tour got really going because they determined this guy was beginning to enjoy all of that...and misses that sensation to this very day. Hypothetically, of course.

But I guess we'll just have to wait and see if rip-off has an alligator-ass to match his alligator-mouth.
Can we make this a no stepping in unless the loser gives it a Chieu Hoi and asks the other one to stop?

God, you don't know how many awesome memories this brings back. It's like...indescribable.

Thank you RGB and especially thank you rip-off...God this is going to be such an amazing treat.
I got to get back in the workout regimen.

thanks to everybody...

Rich
DRSS

Rob,
The Idaho Zephyr continues to blow.
Excellent idea of yours, the contest.
And you say that the wind bag likes it too and has called me out.
Put your money where your mouth is.
I will deflate the wind bag on your dime, not my own.

My friend VIP will be my second. Make arrangements for him to accompany me too: Mid to late October 2007, two week window, when I can take the vacation from prolonging life and easing suffering.

Of course if the blowhard who has called me out wants to put up the cash for my vacation trip to deflate him, that is O.K. too ... if he really wants it he can get it.

He says he has suffered a wrong. I say he is crazy. I'll bring the psychotherapeutic bat.

Er?.......Uh? Sounds like a great time guys. Perhaps you guys should have a nap and consider what your murderous banter sounds like to the rest of us, the Ober Forum Meisters, and in Rich's case his ex handlers who are likely still keeping tabs on him if he is for real. (even though he must be 65 years old about now)

Gee Rich that's some pretty agressive #x$@ for a gentlemanly forum......don't you think? Just a casual observation.

how about all the money and time that would go into travel, recovery, hospital bills, legal fees, judgements, working out and dieting go to making rifles and going on a safari then posting here how much fun you had??? yes wathing the video over and over posted here would give lots of amusement but not much in terms of the goal of this site.

so in short, build guns, go hunting and afterwards try to remember why you were so pissed off in the first place.

I do need to put one thing out here for you all, I think it was RGB that suggested ball bats or some other weapons. I would not use anything. All I am doing is asking rip-off to make the trip to Vegas where I will meet with him and see if he'd like to run thru a little close order drill with me. The loser might agree to not post anything on the AR forum for a year. Or, if one person would not show up, that person would leave the AR forum completely. That would hurt rip-off ten times as much as any inadvertent broken bones or muscles accidentally ripped out (sorry pun not intended) out of their sheathing. I'd really like you all to think of me as more of a personal trainer. Nobody should be afraid to work out a little with a nearly-58 year old has been. Heck, it would be more like wrestling with a Fia Brasilero (sp) than anything else. Just a big puppydog, that's me.
Don't disappoint me rip-off, I am counting on you man.
Sua Sponte,


Rich
DRSS

Rob,

I am thinking you will have to take me to Fanny's Cottontail Ranch, wasn't much happening at the Mustang last time I went thru. All of the ladies there were older than me and out-weighed me to boot. Make it a reward not punishment!



Rich
DRSS

This is getting better than EVER!!

Can you believe it??

A middle aged man, challenging someone to fisticuffs in Las Vegas...Over an internet squabble!!

Damn it doesn't get any better than this. Doesn't get any more pathetic either...

Hey, for the record, I can afford to fly to LV, and I will be happy to kick the shit out of any middle aged men there, if there is a cash incentive.

I'm pushing middle age now, since I'm 39, and i can't list any military background, but heck, I used to be a brawler in my time, and sure tangled a bit with the loggers and longshormen and the trawlers and the skinheads and any other "tough" group out there...

Can't say I killed anyone , but I put 6 in the hospital, with my bare hands..And, for that matter..Most of the military guys I know (and there are a few) don't "brag" too much about thier exploits in killing. Especially not on the intraweb. But, I guess each person is different...

As for stats? 6 foot tall, 265lbs, and I resemble a fire hydrant.

So, anyone that wants to put up a NICE BIG purse for a bare knuckles brawl, against a middle aged man, heck.I'm in...

PS I'd want beer, too...

It is too bad that this is occurring during hunting seasons. I would really like to see this, and being in Vegas I could also hang out with my "brothers" and party like a fool. But it is schedules to occur during elk season so as I said I won't be there.

The pathetic loser is still whining?
He should come meet me in Kentucky.
I want the minimum of inconvenience.
He is a minimum inconvenience, and loves to make himself out as one.
Maybe after the attitude adjustment he can get a life.

Have fun with this guys, I have to work today and travel this weekend, I'll check back when I can.

Well, I think we are approaching a new low for AR (outside of the political, varmint and small game forums, of course). Great work gents...I'm sure your mama's would be proud. I'd be tempted to sh*t can the thread before it goes much further, but, it is George's forum and it is rediculously funny (rediculous as in embarrasingly so, and more funny-strange than funny-haha, but funny none-the-less)

I don't have a dog in this scrap, but just FYI, when Gates says...

quote:

As for stats? 6 foot tall, 265lbs, and I resemble a fire hydrant.

...he doesn't mean one of them pretty city hydrants either.

Gates...I just had a thought....if they let you in on this for a decent purse, I'll fly us both down on airmiles for a percentage of your take, including the beer.

See, now you guys got me doin' it too....



This is a train wreck... (where's a good "head shaking" smiley when you need one?)

Cheers,
Canuck

RIPO and IdahoS- I gotta commend both of you on your level and intensity of really first class SMACK Talk! Damn WE REALLY could make some money with this on WWF. A Big Run -Up some house raids, some sexy ladies. Man I'm talking Big Bucks. NEVERTHELESS I have a new found admiration for both of you and would rather not see the bloody mangled remains of two such game contestants. I must say though that based on WWF you are both probably NOT too old or FAT!
Another all time favorite of mine to settle disputes is a DRINKING CONTEST. How about we meet in Las Vegas and drink REAL GOOD SCOTCH till one of us Passes out! The first one to do so LOSES and WE declare THE LAST MAN STANDING ( or drooling) the winner of who developed what first! NO backing out of this one. DON't worry, I am assured that the liver is the one organ that can regrow itself assuming neither of you currently has too serious a case of sclerosis. I'll even BUY and Video everything. Then We all go out to a very nice CAT HOUSE!-Rob

Gates....

I'd never really noticed the resemblance before...







Sorry man, just couldn't help myself....

Cheers,
Canuck

Rob,

Thanks for trying to salvage some sanity out of this. They are both game...no doubt. I think your suggestion of "scotch til you drop" has some real merit.

Cheers,
Canuck

I was actually attempting to subtely say that this argument was really getting rediculous and offered up the Bats at Dawn strategy as a way to make the point. Unfortunately, It got taken a bit too literally. My actual apology as I was just Spoofing a bit again.
Yes- Given the patent situation on cartridges, It is a sore point with anyone who ever really develops a Wildcat. It's not easy and there is always some slime-wad who will try and take the credit from those who deserve it the most. I've had the same thing happen with the .600OK so I can appreciate the hurt feelings.
RICH and RIPO are both good guys and deserve to drink till they drop. Heck bring Dave E too, I've already drunk plenty of his scotch! I'm buying! Following the match and the Cat house lets all go into the desert and shoot the .600OK at stuff! Since neither of them like Belted cartridges and there is no way to put a shoulder on the .600OK, I think I'm safe with them.-Rob

El Jeffe Oso is getting a case of Ratzeputz for me from a pal in the former empire. I'll gladly donate enough of the case to end the Hatfield and McCoy dispute. (Should be about half a bottle for the both of them)

Canuck,

thanks for posting that pic..

I always liek to be reminded of how damn good lookin' I am

I think, however, that this pic is more pertinent to the conversation at hand:




This thread just keeps getting better...Man, I'd even be into a whiskey drinkin' contest...At least that woudl actually make sense.

quote:

Originally posted by Robgunbuilder:
I was actually attempting to subtely say that this argument was really getting rediculous and offered up the Bats at Dawn strategy as a way to make the point.

I got that. Actually laughed out loud at the concept....hence my enabling. It did get a little twisted there though....

quote:

RICH and RIPO are both good guys and deserve to drink till they drop. Heck bring Dave E too, I've already drunk plenty of his scotch! I'm buying! Following the match and the Cat house lets all go into the desert and shoot the .600OK at stuff! Since neither of them like Belted cartridges and there is no way to put a shoulder on the .600OK, I think I'm safe with them.-Rob

Agree on all counts!

Canuck

Everclear, shot for shot!

Which one is Gates and which one is the Bear?


Rich
DRSS

quote:

Originally posted by Gatehouse:

I was gonna put that one up too. Its a good thing you see a manicurist, else we wouldn't be able to tell where the Grizzly's mitt ends and yours begins.

Hey, I meant to ask you a couple questions about that picture:

1. Are you able to pick your nose with fingers that big?

2. How did you stay so clean while wrastlin' that bear into submission with your bare hands?

Cheers,
Canuck

quote:

[Hey, I meant to ask you a couple questions about that picture:

1. Are you able to pick your nose with fingers that big?

:

Nope, when I get stuffed up I use a grizzly claw, of course.

quote:

2. How did you stay so clean while wrastlin' that bear into submission with your bare hands?

Dude, it's ONLY a grizzly bear..Not much of a challenge. The Samsquantches are WAAAY tougher...

Mister Bauhaus I'm very dissappointed in you! You're not supposed to kill the bears, or wolves, or big cats! They are our friends! They do good things for us! They stalk, kill, & eat tourists, democrats, and other feeble minded bipedal types. Think of them as our conscripts in the war on granola eating bolsheviks, antlered varmints, and stinky salmon. Be nice to bears! It's the smart thing to do!

I want to thank all contributors to this thread, especially the Idaho Zephyr for bringing the comedic relief.

Any publicity is good publicity, so let's see if this stirs up any flatulence.

The 500 Mbogo:



And the versatile .395 Tatanka to complete the buffalo cartridge duo, Africana and Americana:



That Forty-Ought-Seven is sweet perfection, a heavenly cartridge.

That 500 Mbogo is turning out to be the Fifty From Hell.

Gimme your best shot Wind Bag.
Getting the duelling grounds ready for you.

I will be traveling tomorrow, but I'll be back.

who holds the title of wildcatter king???

Hmmmmmmmm?



Sorry Guys! I couldn't resist the opportunity for some petty self-engrandisement!

you gonna restart this...?

Rich
DRSS

.....aawwwwhhhhhh hell guys, I prefer bourbon over scotch

This thread reminds me of the 500 grains / Jeffeosso battle...

But I am not saying the "T" word to resurrect that scenario.

quote:

.....aawwwwhhhhhh hell guys, I prefer bourbon over scotch

bookers? rip van winkle 20 year?

Idaho Zephyr's self image?



There is also a 12.7x64mm HK (.500 HK) on page 562 of Ken Howell's book that is made from .416 Rigby brass with a rim rebated to .5319" to fit a .375 H&H bolt face.

Gil Van Horn would be my pick for the unsung heroic wildcatter. Remember the .585 Van Horn Express, from .577 Nitro Express brass with rim turned off and extractor groove cut? It is 3.0000" of brass length, and it was the way Ross Seyfried should have done the .585 Nyati.

And IZ wants us to kiss his .510 Keester Express?

What is his problem?

This place says only gentlemen can suffer dishonor and are entitled to a duel, and an insult from someone of lower class should be answered with a caning or a horse whip, so a baseball bat ought to do fine:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duel

Macifej,
A potential market for your 2-Bore was suggested by this page from Ken Howell. Plastic bullets to use as polar bear persuaders in those polar Canadian villages:

2.387 Bore

bring that bat and come see me...it will be the last stupid thing you ever do. It could be your opportunity to experience Tsuifuku, or in your case jigai is more suited.

The difference between us is that over a year ago I actually "DID" what you are flapping your gums about doing somewhere down the road. "Going to..." doesn't feed the bulldog junior. I feel sad for Dave if he has to deal with your cur dog yapping around mouth: "gonna, gonna, gonna..." all the time.

Just actually do something of note and then report back here about what you have accomplished...that would be a real first for you.

Out here we refer to do-nothings like you as being; "...all hat, no cattle...".

regards,


Rich
DRSS
looking forward to batting practice.

The Idaho Zephyr is still blowing.

Since he has "called me out" I get to choose the venue:

Baseball bats in Kentucky.

Come and get it blowhard.

A blowhard deserves a hard blow.

how about just settling for old fashioned hating eachother with a dash of contempt while you spray your screen with this...

I believe the perfect hunting bullet for all these wildcats would be a Sierra Matchking.

yep, I agree..........a matchking out of a remington pushfeed....

quote:

Originally posted by boom stick:
how about just settling for old fashioned hating eachother with a dash of contempt while you spray your screen with this...

Unfortunately the ignore function still gives me a clue that the Idaho Zephyr is still posting.

He should get his pathetic keester off my thread.

quote:

Originally posted by Gatehouse:
I believe the perfect hunting bullet for all these wildcats would be a Sierra Matchking.

Gives me an idea: custom made sabots in .395 caliber.

I already have a pile of 50 cal. sabots for the 500 Mbogo.

.308 MatchKings are a reality in the 500 Mbogo with sabots.

Plastic sabots of .395 calliber for what caliber MatchKing ...