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I will be happy to tell you what is important one more time. Minding your own damn business. | |||
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What if that 99 percent wanted prayer to Allah, and your household were the1 percent Christian? It does not matter what the mad wants. Rights exists for the 1 percent. That is why your reading of the 1st Amendment has been held incorrect as compelling speech since the 60s and should stay that way. Again, your self righteousness knows no limits. If a state can make me pray, can make my child pray, The State can do anything to me. | |||
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A very nice quote Hyem, and very appropriate. Lane wants others to quit minding his business, yet he is all in for minding other people's business. Oh so Rich. A hypocrisy that know no bounds. | |||
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A fairly common booboo in statistical work is applying a Gaussian distribution to a set of data that doesn't follow it... TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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Dr. Easter’s child can pray at school right now. His child cannot disrupt class w Prayer. If Dr. Easter wants organized Christian prayer by his child at school lead by school, Dr. Easter can send his child to a private school. | |||
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Your religion may tell you what you must do or not do, if you choose to believe it. Your religion may never tell me what I must do or not do just because you believe it. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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Thou shalt not kill- try that one on in your contrarian world see if there are not consequences for the action-- you see rube- western laws , through common law were based on basic tenets of religion freedom of not freedom from- religion, in one manner or another is intertwined through the entire fabric of not just western law , but also into the laws of most nations ( and no, as i have stated before, this is not a religious position on my part) DuggaBoye-O NRA-Life Whittington-Life TSRA-Life DRSS DSC HSC SCI | |||
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There are a variety of exceptions to that "Commandment" under the law, and no statute anywhere in the Country making murder a criminal offense cites the Bible for authority. As for the distinction between "freedom of" and "freedom from", they are two sides of the same coin. My freedom of free travel between States implicates my freedom from being forced to do so. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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And no where did The Old Testament nor New Address abortion. Divorce, Marriage, Remarriage, Property division, Birth, Birthing practices, Land Distribution, Prayer, Sacrifice, What you can eat/diet. And more all spelled out. When you cure the commandment, you are making a religious argument. You position is insufficient for what people are facing. In short, it is not murder just bc you say so. Our Civil Las is secular as the S. Ct., explained when it rejected your argument about religion and law on Lawrence v. Texas and the compelled language prayer case. | |||
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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The Country is for everybody. The point of being in the minority is that you are a minority. The Constitution cannot care if you would move. Some cannot move. Folks Federal rights are not erased by a line on the UNITED States map. Your response is weak and wo merit. As always you confirm yourself out of your own mouth. You cannot deny him being in the minority, but nationally as the 2003, 2008, 2020 and 2022 election cycle showed you are. You have no more claim to any Mt hint than a 1 percent Islamic family in your school district. Here is the biggest lie about this you make. No one is stopping your stopping from praying at school today. The State simply cannot mandate and lead a prayer. Your son cannot interior instruction. Once, again you have taken a Right min-issue @ we can’t pray in school” a known falsehood to create false division to win an election. You can also send your son to private school if you want school mandated speech that you approve so badly. You just want the State to force your view of right through an extension of the State on everyone. Thus, making it more likely more folks will in time think like you. By any means right. The United States, the public sphere belongs to all of us equally be you Christian, Islamic, Gay, Straight, No labels, liberal, or conservative. It stops with you forcing religion into the public sphere. I have always said, stand in your lawn and preach gay people are abominations as loud as you want. It ends there. I suggest if you move to a Country that still takes its orders from the Church, if one still exists. I know Iran is controlled by and for the same purpose religious oligarchs. | |||
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Everyone in your district that does not think or agree w you should move by your logic. You also refuse to take this non Federal Right local power view of states and cities passing legislation concerning the possession and use of firearms. Why? The simple fact is you like that one and love it when the Federal system rejects that pre-incorporation use of legislative proghtive. | |||
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You must be lawyer Heym , you speak like one Not that is anything wrong with that…(; Nothing like standing over your own kill | |||
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I should not need to move to be free of anyone's religion in American. You are fucking bat shit crazy Lane.  | |||
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I guess Dr. Easter believes that he should be given a badge and allowed to conduct an inquisition around Texas to make sure only those who believe like him stay. The rest he can be empowered to seize their property for the betterment of the right thinking people, and load them up on trains. That is the logically conclusion of his statement. | |||
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Maybe a Title like Herr Doktor Obersturmbannführer... "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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Well, it is for the betterment of the 99 percent he asserts. Class and societal harmony. If you do not confirm, you can get out. I just ate two Elk, NY strips tonight. I am as red meat eating ax they come. He is indefensible. There is no Blue Hell or Red Hell. There is the law that applies to all of us refugees of what town you are in. He is also lying to you. Nothing keeps his son from saying a prayer at school. He wants school/the State to make all of them pray to his vision of God, his way. Sorry Doofa if the truth hurts. Hence, he could not muster a real rebuttal. If he can make any child pray to the state sanctioned pray or move away, we all have no liberty. I see you ignored the application of his religion to firearms legislation. | |||
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Well Lane's ideas are not crazy as the Nazi's, close, but not quite that bad. I don't believe he has called for death for non-believers, just that they should be driven from the community. Did you really think he was not going to get some push back for his crazy ass statement? | |||
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Hence, why I did not say he should be granted the power to kill them; just that they be made to move so as not to interrupt, agitate his Utopia. I believe in the 60s his type called them agitators. How dare folks try to organize African Americans(minorities) to exercise their right to vote and have a say in public policy. After all, they only make up 1 percent of the total vote. I will say again what I told another member here when he was spouting “ those people are only X percent of the population.” They are 10” percent Americans. They are every bit and inch Americans as myself and Dr. Easter. The Constitution and Federally recognized rights, including the right from the state not to endorse any religion, applies just as much to them as it does the “99 percent.” Otherwise, folks can be loaded on trains, and one day it can be you in the minority. Dr. Easter is already in the National Minority as it relates to abortion, religion, sport hunting. | |||
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If I moved to Iraq, and they prayed to allah in school every day, I would bow my head and keep my mouth shut, because I am in their land. If I didn't like it, I could always leave. There is no expectation that their society has to change for me. Plainly, that is not the liberal view. Regards, Bill. | |||
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You may have missed it but as an American we have a right to not have someone else's religion forced upon us. It has nothing to do with being liberal and everything to do with being an American. Lane is free to worship as he sees fit but I am in no way required to endure his religious views. | |||
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We are not a religious theocracy. We have never been. We also do not let a local majority run over minorities with religious fiefdoms. We are all the United States of America. Where no local Jack can make anyone bow the knee to anyone’s God in the public sphere. That is the America I love. The title of this thread is Biden takes the gloves off. That is one thing I will take the gloves off for. I will fight you with every dollar, in every Court, and every election over that Freedom. | |||
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We didn't move to Iraq, the Christian Taliban is trying to take over here. It won't work. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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Again, Dr. Easter, as per the Course for his brand of the Right, is lying. Nothing is stopping his son from praying at school tomorrow. His son cannot interrupt class instruction. It is a lie designed to create a false them vs. us division for political power. He knows it is a lie. If he values so much that the State through the school led his son in an approved pray, he can send his son to a private school or homeschool. In short, Dr. Easter of a political lier. | |||
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The fallacy in that argument is that the US is not a Christian nation. | |||
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Dr. Easter argues for the best way is State Mandated prayer. I say this: Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. William Pitt The last part of Pitt’s statement refers to the response of human beings to tyrants. There will be tyrants in this wicked world until Jesus returns, which raises the question of how one should respond to tyrants in their various forms, be they tyrants of the church or tyrants of the state. So, what does it mean that necessity “is the creed of slaves”? Or as Dr. Easter and Bill Leeper says move or just bow. It means this. When the individual, or society, accepts the lie from tyrants that their mistreatment and loss of human freedoms is “necessary”, their acceptance is an act of self-enslavement. States otherwise, it is the essence of slavery to believe the lie that tyranny is justified under any circumstances. | |||
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I wish Lane could explain why his son can't pray in school, given that Christians believe in telepathic prayer to God. | |||
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No sir, That would be you. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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You are the nutter trying to rationalize using the state to force your religion upon others. | |||
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Prayer by elders in school is a good thing. If we had more of it…we would have less violence. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Prayers in schools are appropriate in parochial schools, not in the public arena using tax dollars. | |||
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 I am glad you get enjoyment from your proclamations. And I would fight for your right to say them. But, I know where I stand in life and how I got there…what works and doesn’t work. Suffice it say…our personal feelings are mutual.  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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 Elders in schools praying in view of the students IS a good thing. When there was more of it…there was less strife. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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That is the purpose of a parochial school. Your religion has no place being promoted by tax dollars in a public school. Evangelicals have to be some of the most obnoxious people walking this planet, the American version of the Taliban. Fucking bat shit crazy | |||
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What works for you is fine, you still do not have the right to push your God upon others. This is America, not Iran. | |||
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A school elder praying aloud openly is not forcing anything on anyone. It is called setting an example…being a positive role model. Believe it or not Steve, there are some general principles that are universal. “What works for me”…would work for many if they applied the same principles. Like I always say when people are calling some successful person and idiot. Rich men did not get rich by being dumb. Those who think they did or are…are the ones who fund them ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Good. Take your children to church and expose them to it. I'm sure you did and that is well and good. Lane and I have had this argument many times. I can never understand the need to force your choice of religion on children in public schools. If you want to expose your children to organized religion, take them to church or pay tuition at a parochial school. There are endless opportunities to get your kids all the churching you think they need. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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It is the State Endorsing one religion over another and compelling others to speak. It is tranny. It is against the Teachings of the New Testament as your view is the death of free will of choice that Jesus seeks. The oppression you seek was beaten when states were no longer able to have state sponsored religions. It is the State putting its thumb on the scale and declaring the true faith all must conform to and confirming the true prayer of the faithful. Preach and pray as you want in your home and your Church. | |||
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