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Originally posted by JudgeG:
America needs a statesman, not a party hack, who is at the top of his or game. “Senile” is a relative term as to progression. Is Joe’s alleged mental deterioration already senility? You’ve got a right to your opinion… (which seems to be not that of the majority of Americans), but to believe he’s not compromised somewhat already is wishful thinking, I think.
As The Washington Post suggested, he’s not (any longer?) what America needs… He’s a rapidly failing old guy.

Joe certainly has his flaws, age being one of them

No matter if Joe is elected or the current GOP front runner, either way we end up with the oldest POTUS ever elected.

Pretty sure we do not need a sedationist bent on revenge as POTUS either.

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Originally posted by bluefish:
The current circumstances as you call the. Are due to Biden and his failure as an administration.
The prior administration had none of these problems.

The prior administration was busy setting up the conditions that led to the current circumstances.

Oil and gas drilling cratered during the last half of the Trump administration, for example.

And the GOP front runner remains sharp as a tack, warning us all how Biden will lead us into WWII.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...d-war-ii/ar-AA1gOrh6




From the same speech Trump then tells us that he is leading Obama by a lot in the polls....makes you wonder if the fat bastard knows what year it is:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...by-a-lot/vi-AA1gNwyM


Could a Trumptard please tell me about that "genius" you hope to nominate again?

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Yep…Biden is not senile…he is early stage dementia.

Like I said, you have to keep repeating that in order to maintain your hope of re-electing that orange Buffoon who is currently under 91 felony indictments.

No sir…I say it because it is the truth.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Yep…Biden is not senile…he is early stage dementia.

Like I said, you have to keep repeating that in order to maintain your hope of re-electing that orange Buffoon who is currently under 91 felony indictments.

No sir…I say it because it is the truth.

Joe knows Trump didn't beat Obama, and that World War 2 already happened, so Joe is pretty unlikely to get us into it. Unlike Trump.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Yep…Biden is not senile…he is early stage dementia.

Like I said, you have to keep repeating that in order to maintain your hope of re-electing that orange Buffoon who is currently under 91 felony indictments.

No sir…I say it because it is the truth.

You keep telling us you are not a trumper and will vote for him only if he is the GOP nominee.. You simply sound to me like his biggest cheerleading butt buddy.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Yep…Biden is not senile…he is early stage dementia.

Like I said, you have to keep repeating that in order to maintain your hope of re-electing that orange Buffoon who is currently under 91 felony indictments.

No sir…I say it because it is the truth.

You can't handle the truth.

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Yep…Biden is not senile…he is early stage dementia.

Like I said, you have to keep repeating that in order to maintain your hope of re-electing that orange Buffoon who is currently under 91 felony indictments.

No sir…I say it because it is the truth.

You can't handle the truth.

I can handle the truth and better yet I see the truth. I also see reality. Put the 2 together and make decisions on them sans emotion and you generally stay ahead of the game in economics, business, science, and politics.

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Yep…Biden is not senile…he is early stage dementia.

Like I said, you have to keep repeating that in order to maintain your hope of re-electing that orange Buffoon who is currently under 91 felony indictments.

No sir…I say it because it is the truth.

Joe knows Trump didn't beat Obama, and that World War 2 already happened, so Joe is pretty unlikely to get us into it. Unlike Trump.

Joe doesn’t even know where he is half the time. His mind is gone.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

I can handle the truth and better yet I see the truth. I also see reality. Put the 2 together and make decisions on them sans emotion and you generally stay ahead of the game in economics, business, science, and politics.

You forgot to mention your disregard for law and order and willingness to vote in a seditionist in order to forward your political agenda. Your comment on the economy is disingenuous at best considering how strong our economy is. You have been predicting a recession for some time now....and yet, month after month we keep putting up solid numbers despite your hopes.

The hypocrisy is rich.

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

I can handle the truth and better yet I see the truth. I also see reality. Put the 2 together and make decisions on them sans emotion and you generally stay ahead of the game in economics, business, science, and politics.

You forgot to mention your disregard for law and order and willingness to vote in a seditionist in order to forward your political agenda.

The hypocrisy is rich.

You are wrong again…that, my friend, is where reality plays in.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

I can handle the truth and better yet I see the truth. I also see reality. Put the 2 together and make decisions on them sans emotion and you generally stay ahead of the game in economics, business, science, and politics.

You forgot to mention your disregard for law and order and willingness to vote in a seditionist in order to forward your political agenda.

The hypocrisy is rich.

You are wrong again…that, my friend, is where reality plays in.

What would you know of reality? You are unable to admit despite the rafts of evidence that Biden won the election fairly and that Trump tried to subvert the will of the voters.

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

I can handle the truth and better yet I see the truth. I also see reality. Put the 2 together and make decisions on them sans emotion and you generally stay ahead of the game in economics, business, science, and politics.

You forgot to mention your disregard for law and order and willingness to vote in a seditionist in order to forward your political agenda.

The hypocrisy is rich.

You are wrong again…that, my friend, is where reality plays in.

What would you know of reality? You are unable to admit despite the rafts of evidence that Biden won the election fairly and that Trump tried to subvert the will of the voters.

The problem for me I guess…is that I am smart and mathematics was my second major. Statistics was my passion in mathematics. Mathematics never lie. Statistics always reveal trends.

Statistically…the 2020 election WAS an anomaly. Anomalies have reasons. I am not certain of the reason 2020 was a statistical anomaly…cause I am not privy to the truth.

Science has taught me to be very skeptical/suspicious of anomalies. Thus, I will always be skeptical of that election cycle. If you aren’t and take it at face value…that just tells me you are dumb. In business I put a people like that as “easy to beat.”

As to those idiots wearing horns, defacing public property, and conducting themselves as morons…well they get what they deserve…2 separate issues.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

I can handle the truth and better yet I see the truth. I also see reality. Put the 2 together and make decisions on them sans emotion and you generally stay ahead of the game in economics, business, science, and politics.

You forgot to mention your disregard for law and order and willingness to vote in a seditionist in order to forward your political agenda.

The hypocrisy is rich.

You are wrong again…that, my friend, is where reality plays in.

What would you know of reality? You are unable to admit despite the rafts of evidence that Biden won the election fairly and that Trump tried to subvert the will of the voters.

The problem for me I guess…is that I am smart and mathematics was my second major. Statistics was my passion in mathematics. Mathematics never lie. Statistics always reveal trends.

Statistically…the 2020 election WAS an anomaly. Anomalies have reasons. I am not certain of the reason 2020 was a statistical anomaly…cause I am not privy to the truth.

Science has taught me to be very skeptical/suspicious of anomalies. Thus, I will always be skeptical of that election cycle. If you aren’t and take it at face value…that just tells me you are dumb. In business I put a people like that as “easy to beat.”

As to those idiots wearing horns, defacing public property, and conducting themselves as morons…well they get what they deserve…2 separate issues.

You are attempting to put lipstick on a pig. The 2020 election was not an anomaly, like usual the GOP lost the popular vote, they lost the electoral college vote as well because Trump is an obnoxious asshole and his policies sucked.

You are not that smart, the problem for you is that you drink the conservative propaganda kool-aid and fail to use a bit of critical thought. You repeat what you hear in the echo chamber that you live in.

The morons on Jan 6th are in no way a separate issue from Trump trying to subvert the will of the voters, it was part of a much bigger attempt that anyone with two brains cells bouncing around can see. The fake electors, The Ga. "perfect" phone call, the many failed lawsuits, on and on.

You support a seditionist in order to forward your political agenda. It is that simple.

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

I can handle the truth and better yet I see the truth. I also see reality. Put the 2 together and make decisions on them sans emotion and you generally stay ahead of the game in economics, business, science, and politics.

You forgot to mention your disregard for law and order and willingness to vote in a seditionist in order to forward your political agenda.

The hypocrisy is rich.

You are wrong again…that, my friend, is where reality plays in.

What would you know of reality? You are unable to admit despite the rafts of evidence that Biden won the election fairly and that Trump tried to subvert the will of the voters.

The problem for me I guess…is that I am smart and mathematics was my second major. Statistics was my passion in mathematics. Mathematics never lie. Statistics always reveal trends.

Statistically…the 2020 election WAS an anomaly. Anomalies have reasons. I am not certain of the reason 2020 was a statistical anomaly…cause I am not privy to the truth.

Science has taught me to be very skeptical/suspicious of anomalies. Thus, I will always be skeptical of that election cycle. If you aren’t and take it at face value…that just tells me you are dumb. In business I put a people like that as “easy to beat.”

As to those idiots wearing horns, defacing public property, and conducting themselves as morons…well they get what they deserve…2 separate issues.

You are attempting to put lipstick on a pig. The 2020 election was not an anomaly, like usual the GOP lost the popular vote, they lost the electoral college vote as well because Trump is an obnoxious asshole and his policies sucked.

You are not that smart, the problem for you is that you drink the conservative propaganda kool-aid and fail to use a bit of critical thought. You repeat what you hear in the echo chamber that you live in.

The morons on Jan 6th are in no way a separate issue from Trump trying to subvert the will of the voters, it was part of a much bigger attempt that anyone with two brains cells bouncing around can see. The fake electors, The Ga. "perfect" phone call, the many failed lawsuits, on and on.

You support a seditionist in order to forward your political agenda. It is that simple.

You can’t fix stupid.

The 2020 election WAS a statistical outlier. The reason is debatable and we will never know all the facts (truth). But it was a statistical anomaly…denying that just confirms my suspicion.

You just get blinded by emotion…like most people.

I bet the 2022 election was an outlier as well? You would not want to acknowledge that what happened in 2022 was a rejection of Trump endorsed candidates as well as the GOP's very unpopular abortion policies. That would require you living in reality instead of your comfy echo chamber.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
The problem for me I guess…is that I am smart and mathematics was my second major.
Statistics was my passion in mathematics.
Mathematics never lie.
Statistics always reveal trends.

We use statistics to predict things when we do not understand the underlying mechanisms of causation.

Who said, "There are lies, damned lies, and then there are statistics.

Every election is an anomaly by some statistic or another.

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Originally posted by TomP:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
The problem for me I guess…is that I am smart and mathematics was my second major.
Statistics was my passion in mathematics.
Mathematics never lie.
Statistics always reveal trends.

We use statistics to predict things when we do not understand the underlying mechanisms of causation.

Bingo!

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Originally posted by ledvm:

The 2020 election WAS a statistical outlier.

The official count is that 66.6% of people voted - you have to go back over a century (1908) to even come statistically close to matching, and then back to 1900 to beat it - Voter turnout had averaged <60% for over 11 decades. Of course, the electorate changed in that time frame

Trump lost the election - this is clear

but the election itself was certainly a statistical anomaly - both of these things are true. Literally NO ONE who voted in the last near same percentage election was alive for 2020 -

The average voter turnout since 1908 is ~58.15%
The standard deviation is 2.32%
The difference in the 2020 Election and average turnout for over a century was 8.45%
That is 3.63 Standard deviations (or sigma, or σ ) greater than expected results

and that, sir, is a statistical anomaly, by definition

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Anomalies are instances or collections of data that occur very rarely in the data set and whose features differ significantly from most of the data. An outlier is an observation (or subset of observations) which appears to be inconsistent with the remainder of that set of data.

A normal bell curve is +/- 3SD -

A common example is the average height of US men - the average is 70 inches, with an sd of 3 - so, 73/ 6'1 is 1sd away, 76/6'4 is 2 sd away, 79/6'7 is 3 sd away, and a person would be almost 82" tall, 6'9+ to be that 3.63 sd away from the norm

Outside of the basketball court, I've met perhaps 5 people, in my entire life, that crowd 6'10

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Originally posted by skb:
I bet the 2022 election was an outlier as well? You would not want to acknowledge that what happened in 2022 was a rejection of Trump endorsed candidates as well as the GOP's very unpopular abortion policies. That would require you living in reality instead of your comfy echo chamber.

Lots of "Reading into" whatever Lan was thinking - I think 2022 was a reflection that the electorate doesn't want trump or trump backed candidates, which is why I say Trump is the only Republican that Biden can surely beat

But i'll bet Lane's "Echo chamber" doesn't think the sexual organ mutilation of 900 kids a year is "okay"

The trannies again? Such a non-issue to me.

I think the abortion issue will resonate more strongly with the voting public than the 900 minors per year seeking out GAS. I could be wrong, but I think most folks can do the math and see that this issue is being blown way out of proportion for political gain. You are obviously upset about it, I fall into the group that sees it as something that is just not my problem.

Oh, you are welcome for the stats lesson - math is hard to argue with, aint it?

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Originally posted by skb:
The trannies again? Such a non-issue to me.

No, sir, it's the children being mutilated - 900 children being mutilated rather than receiving mental health support is certainly an important issue. But you blowing it off with a slur speaks volumes of your character - and may tip off the cancel club

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Oh, you are welcome for the stats lesson - math is hard to argue with, aint it?

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Originally posted by skb:
The trannies again? Such a non-issue to me.

No, sir, it's the children being mutilated - 900 children being mutilated rather than receiving mental health support is certainly an important issue. But you blowing it off with a slur speaks volumes of your character - and may tip off the cancel club

You see it as a mental health issue, I see it as a bunch of teens, most nearly old enough to join the military making the choices that they feel are correct for themselves. Such an incredibly small number of them as well. This one is just not my battle. An issue I'm just not able to GAF about. If it matters that much to you then I support you in your efforts to find a solution. Myself, I see this as a non issue that I simply do not care about.

Property taxes, the environment, keeping church separate from the State, personal privacy, access to public lands are all things I care about. 900 kids a year going through with a surgery they would likely pursue if forced to wait anyway? Who really gives a rats ass? Not me.

And we have the ACAB and BLM movements - where fewer people are killed by the police per year (abut 600) --

glad your heart is in the right place .

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
And we have the ACAB and BLM movements - where fewer people are killed by the police per year (abut 600) --

glad your heart is in the right place .

It comes down to a privacy issue for me Jeffe. I really only care about the sexuality of the people I get naked with. If we don't have that kind of relationship, then I do not feel your sexuality is my business.

Why on earth would I care about someone else's private life? My heart tells me that other folks have the right to self determination the same way I do.

It's children being mutilated, Steve - they need mental health support - but, in your world, you don't care what happens to them --

You've made it pretty clear

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
It's children being mutilated, Steve - they need mental health support - but, in your world, you don't care what happens to them --

You've made it pretty clear

I find your characterization to be overly dramatic. Many of them are happy with the results, some are not. As TB40 pointed out, most of them are likely 17-18 anyway. We now treat late teens as "children", they are not.

I have no interest in instructing others how to raise children, not my bag. I have encouraged you to find a solution to this problem that offends you so, it seems like you want me to share in your outrage. I just can't do it. I would likely have very strong feelings on that matter if it were occuring in my home, it is not. I see much bigger fish to fry in the than this. You feel differently, I'm fine with that.

Steve,
awww - trying to make it my hysteria rather than your heartlessness -- cute, heartless, but cute -- well, maybe pathetic, but i think you get the point.

One child being harmed has been the rallying cry from Dems on guns for decades - say, don't you make your living from guns?

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Steve,
awww - trying to make it my hysteria rather than your heartlessness -- cute, heartless, but cute -- well, maybe pathetic, but i think you get the point.

One child being harmed has been the rallying cry from Dems on guns for decades - say, don't you make your living from guns?

Choices Jeffe, someone else's choices not mine. Not my house, not my choices. Easy peasy.

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Steve,
awww - trying to make it my hysteria rather than your heartlessness -- cute, heartless, but cute -- well, maybe pathetic, but i think you get the point.

One child being harmed has been the rallying cry from Dems on guns for decades - say, don't you make your living from guns?

Choices Jeffe, someone else's choices not mine. Not my house, not my choices. Easy peasy.

So, I guess everything that happens in Texas isn't your concern? murhahahhaa

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Steve,
awww - trying to make it my hysteria rather than your heartlessness -- cute, heartless, but cute -- well, maybe pathetic, but i think you get the point.

One child being harmed has been the rallying cry from Dems on guns for decades - say, don't you make your living from guns?

Choices Jeffe, someone else's choices not mine. Not my house, not my choices. Easy peasy.

So, I guess everything that happens in Texas isn't your concern? murhahahhaa

You will notice that I consistently advocate for people minding their own damn business. In Texas and in every other State. It really is not that complicated Jeffe.

“Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject.”

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Originally posted by ledvm:
“Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject.”

Are you trying to justify pushing your religious views upon others AGAIN?

How very sad.

Just agreeing with Jeffe.

But notice, you don’t try to refute the above quote…as it is true.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Just agreeing with Jeffe.

But notice, you don’t try to refute the above quote…as it is true.

Let me refute it here.

The whole world would be a far better place if the busty bodies would mind their own damn business.

That would include those of you that want intrude into the most private part of other peoples lives.

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The whole world would be a far better places if the busty bodies would mind their own damn business.

There are bits of truth in everything and certainly your above advice is good.

The below is the other half of your advice.

“Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject.”

And I am certain you would like the world less if one was adhered to without the other.

The issue is where that line lies. I simply do not feel that you, or anyone else has the right to intrude into someone's private life. I have said plenty of times that I am fine with laws delaying GAS until the individual becomes 18 years old. This whole tranny issues is nothing but politics, an incredibly small number of people involved in a country of 330 million. If the health of teens is really your concern, why not fight teen suicide? That happens at a far greater number. How about fighting for lower insulin prices for children with Type 1 diabetes? These are real issues affecting far more children. Those issues do not stoke political outrage so no interest it seems.

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Originally posted by skb:
The issue is where that line lies. I simply do not feel that you, or anyone else has the right to intrude into someone's private life. I have said plenty of times that I am fine with laws delaying GAS until the individual becomes 18 years old. This whole tranny issues is nothing but politics, an incredibly small number of people involved in a country of 330 million. If the health of teens is really your concern, why not fight teen suicide? That happens at a far greater number. How about fighting for lower insulin prices for children with Type 1 diabetes? These are real issues affecting far more children. Those issues do not stoke political outrage so no interest it seems.

See^^^there!!!

You are not abiding by your own rule trying to tell me how to decide what is important.

PS: I live in Texas 13. The most conservative district in the US Congress. I am known in my local as a moderate, tolerant individual who advocates your policy of staying out of other’s business.

In Texas 13…99.9% of individuals like prayers in schools. We want others to quit minding our business.