The White House sent the news media a simple two-page letter calling on them to do more than parroting what they are told and actually do some journalism concerning Republican efforts to gin up an impeachment.

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They then provided a 14-page refutation of the 7 primary lies Republicans are relying on and present the facts:

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A pretty devastating point-by-point refutation of the Republican bullshit if anybody is actually interested in the truth.

Good to see his staff appreciates that a written rebuttal undoubtedly prepared by someone other than the Prez is the way to go as opposed to trotting the Prez out to try and bumble through it on his on. Hardly sounds like Biden taking the gloves off, more like the staff putting him to bed and trying to get some work done.

Face it, the last two Presidents have been embarrassments. They’re predecessors like Washington, Jefferson, Roosevelt, etc. must be rolling over in their graves.

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Originally posted by MJines:
Good to see his staff appreciates that a written rebuttal undoubtedly prepared by someone other than the Prez is the way to go as opposed to trotting the Prez out to do try and bumble through it on his on. Hardly sounds like Biden taking the gloves off, more like the staff putting him to bed and trying to get some work done.

Face it, the last two Presidents have been embarrassments. They’re predecessors like Washington, Jefferson, Roosevelt, etc. must be rolling over in their graves.

You are at liberty to contribute to the baseless "senile" narrative if you wish but doing it right after he wrapped up a hugely successful 5 day trip to the G20 and Vietnam is bad timing.

He's three years older than Trump but in much better condition physically and mentally and doesn't feel the need to childishly lie about being 6'3" and 215 lbs.

There are also republicans stating that this impeachment thing is baseless.

He didn’t take the gloves off, he just painted a target on his back.

Wow! That Whitehouse “rebuttal” might be the stupidest act I’ve seen by a “defense” team in a long while. It is akin to a defendant taking the stand before the state has presented its case, exposing and locking in his defense and thereby subjecting himself to newly discovered evidence and withering cross-examination. The idiots just gave the Republicans a sitting duck target.

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Originally posted by Jefffive:
The White House sent the news media a simple two-page letter calling on them to do more than parroting what they are told and actually do some journalism concerning Republican efforts to gin up an impeachment.

Link

They then provided a 14-page refutation of the 7 primary lies Republicans are relying on and present the facts:

Link

A pretty devastating point-by-point refutation of the Republican bullshit if anybody is actually interested in the truth.

There is the old saying, who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes? I watched January 6 live on television. I do not need to have someone tell me that it was a group of peaceful tourists that got a little rowdy on an impromptu tour. Similarly, I do not need for someone to tell me that Biden is in full command of his faculties and his mental acuity remains strong. I can listen to the man try to speak extemporaneously and respond off the cuff. I can watch how he moves, his gait, etc. So all things considered I think I will just stick to believing my lying eyes.

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Originally posted by LongDistanceOperator:
There are also republicans stating that this impeachment thing is baseless.

The smart ones know there will be a price for it.

The playbook is to just maintain a drumbeat of relentless attacks, just like they did against Hillary, but even Tuberville could tell them that you can't just keep running the same play over and over.

McCarthy knew he didn't have the votes for a formal impeachment inquiry on the floor so he didn't risk a vote, despite saying less than two weeks ago there wouldn't be an inquiry without one.

Only through such a vote can any Committee get authority to issue binding investigative subpoenas, both under House Rules AND a still current DOJ opinion from Trump's DOJ. That means that only subpoenas issued for a legitimate legislative purpose can be written by any of the three Committees he named.

Jeffy,
First of all, the Dims started it. Yes there are consequences.

Second, can Biden even find his gloves?

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Originally posted by lavaca:
Jeffy,
First of all, the Dims started it. Yes there are consequences.

Second, can Biden even find his gloves?

Is this 4th grade?

The Democrats impeached Trump based on clear and convincing evidence; the Republicans in the Senate placed Party over Country and acquitted him, twice.

I think every President who commits crimes in office should be impeached.

Are any of these allegations even about Joe's time as President?

I’m surprised he can find his hands, much less take a glove off…

Isnt this about an inquest, not an impeachment?
Let them poke around if there is nothing to be found.

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by MJines:
Good to see his staff appreciates that a written rebuttal undoubtedly prepared by someone other than the Prez is the way to go as opposed to trotting the Prez out to do try and bumble through it on his on. Hardly sounds like Biden taking the gloves off, more like the staff putting him to bed and trying to get some work done.

Face it, the last two Presidents have been embarrassments. They’re predecessors like Washington, Jefferson, Roosevelt, etc. must be rolling over in their graves.

You are at liberty to contribute to the baseless "senile" narrative if you wish but doing it right after he wrapped up a hugely successful 5 day trip to the G20 and Vietnam is bad timing.

He's three years older than Trump but in much better condition physically and mentally and doesn't feel the need to childishly lie about being 6'3" and 215 lbs.

"baseless "senile" narrative"? Are you shitting me? This is just like the Trumpeteers, claiming their man is not a bombastic bullshitter. You are looking at Joe, not through rose colored glasses, but through opaque lenses. Regards, Bill.

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Originally posted by Jefffive:
The White House sent the news media a simple two-page letter calling on them to do more than parroting what they are told and actually do some journalism concerning Republican efforts to gin up an impeachment.

Link

They then provided a 14-page refutation of the 7 primary lies Republicans are relying on and present the facts:

Link

A pretty devastating point-by-point refutation of the Republican bullshit if anybody is actually interested in the truth.

While they are at it how about some journalism related to any number of their stories like the Russian collusion hoax and Hunter’s laptop to name but two.

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Originally posted by Bill Leeper:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by MJines:
Good to see his staff appreciates that a written rebuttal undoubtedly prepared by someone other than the Prez is the way to go as opposed to trotting the Prez out to do try and bumble through it on his on. Hardly sounds like Biden taking the gloves off, more like the staff putting him to bed and trying to get some work done.

Face it, the last two Presidents have been embarrassments. They’re predecessors like Washington, Jefferson, Roosevelt, etc. must be rolling over in their graves.

You are at liberty to contribute to the baseless "senile" narrative if you wish but doing it right after he wrapped up a hugely successful 5 day trip to the G20 and Vietnam is bad timing.

He's three years older than Trump but in much better condition physically and mentally and doesn't feel the need to childishly lie about being 6'3" and 215 lbs.

"baseless "senile" narrative"? Are you shitting me? This is just like the Trumpeteers, claiming their man is not a bombastic bullshitter. You are looking at Joe, not through rose colored glasses, but through opaque lenses. Regards, Bill.

Amazing isn't it? Senile, able to perform as POTUS far more effectively than his predecessor especially in the International political arena, and running an International crime syndicate that after 5 years of investigation the GOP still has not been able to produce any proof of.

I'm left scratching my head at the current narrative.

Joe is well past has sell by date, the rest of the story you do have to wonder about.

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Originally posted by Jefffive:
The White House sent the news media a simple two-page letter calling on them to do more than parroting what they are told and actually do some journalism concerning Republican efforts to gin up an impeachment.

Link

They then provided a 14-page refutation of the 7 primary lies Republicans are relying on and present the facts:

Link

A pretty devastating point-by-point refutation of the Republican bullshit if anybody is actually interested in the truth.

an example of state run media -- 1a

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by Bill Leeper:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by MJines:
Good to see his staff appreciates that a written rebuttal undoubtedly prepared by someone other than the Prez is the way to go as opposed to trotting the Prez out to do try and bumble through it on his on. Hardly sounds like Biden taking the gloves off, more like the staff putting him to bed and trying to get some work done.

Face it, the last two Presidents have been embarrassments. They’re predecessors like Washington, Jefferson, Roosevelt, etc. must be rolling over in their graves.

You are at liberty to contribute to the baseless "senile" narrative if you wish but doing it right after he wrapped up a hugely successful 5 day trip to the G20 and Vietnam is bad timing.

He's three years older than Trump but in much better condition physically and mentally and doesn't feel the need to childishly lie about being 6'3" and 215 lbs.

"baseless "senile" narrative"? Are you shitting me? This is just like the Trumpeteers, claiming their man is not a bombastic bullshitter. You are looking at Joe, not through rose colored glasses, but through opaque lenses. Regards, Bill.

Amazing isn't it? Senile, able to perform as POTUS far more effectively than his predecessor especially in the International political arena, and running an International crime syndicate that after 5 years of investigation the GOP still has not been able to produce any proof of.

I'm left scratching my head at the current narrative.

Joe is well past has sell by date, the rest of the story you do have to wonder about.

My apologies. You are dumber than previously thought.

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Originally posted by bluefish:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by Bill Leeper:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by MJines:
Good to see his staff appreciates that a written rebuttal undoubtedly prepared by someone other than the Prez is the way to go as opposed to trotting the Prez out to do try and bumble through it on his on. Hardly sounds like Biden taking the gloves off, more like the staff putting him to bed and trying to get some work done.

Face it, the last two Presidents have been embarrassments. They’re predecessors like Washington, Jefferson, Roosevelt, etc. must be rolling over in their graves.

You are at liberty to contribute to the baseless "senile" narrative if you wish but doing it right after he wrapped up a hugely successful 5 day trip to the G20 and Vietnam is bad timing.

He's three years older than Trump but in much better condition physically and mentally and doesn't feel the need to childishly lie about being 6'3" and 215 lbs.

"baseless "senile" narrative"? Are you shitting me? This is just like the Trumpeteers, claiming their man is not a bombastic bullshitter. You are looking at Joe, not through rose colored glasses, but through opaque lenses. Regards, Bill.

Amazing isn't it? Senile, able to perform as POTUS far more effectively than his predecessor especially in the International political arena, and running an International crime syndicate that after 5 years of investigation the GOP still has not been able to produce any proof of.

I'm left scratching my head at the current narrative.

Joe is well past has sell by date, the rest of the story you do have to wonder about.

My apologies. You are dumber than previously thought.

Maybe you have a source to support your views on the matter that you could share with me? Maybe something from the Conservative Treehouse or other such reliable source? You're a piece work Blueballs.

An effective POTUS? By what measure? For example four years ago gas was cheaper, the border was more secure, international hostilities were low, unemployment amongst blacks was lower, interest rates were lower, inflation was lower, and people were keeping more of the dollars they earned. Shall we keep going? I stand by my previous statement dummy.

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Originally posted by bluefish:
An effective POTUS? By what measure? For example four years ago gas was cheaper, the border was more secure, international hostilities were low, unemployment amongst blacks was lower, interest rates were lower, inflation was lower, and people were keeping more of the dollars they earned. Shall we keep going? I stand by my previous statement dummy.

You mean before the world wide pandemic changed the economy?

No matter for me, during the Biden admin I have had my strongest three years since Clinton was the POTUS and I worked in Telecom.

I would like to see the cost of energy stabilize but between Putin and MBS that will not happen anytime soon.

We currently have some of the lowest unemployment on record, strong wage gains for workers and and economy full of pent up demand.

International hostilities lower under Trump? Only because he was buddying up to dictators, murders and other despots. Not to mention the moron was constantly attacking our allies.

I'm sure you will keep going, deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole.

TDS and Boulderitis I see. Could prove fatal.

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Originally posted by bluefish:
TDS and Boulderitis I see. Could prove fatal.

You sure would not know it the way business has been going the last three years. The dollars do not lie, unlike you Trumptards.

You cannot refute even one example I provided.

Trump gave the game away in his interview with Megyn Kelly:

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They did it to me and had they not done it to me, I think, and nobody officially said this, but I think had they not done it to me, that I'm very popular in the, they like me and I like them, the Republican Party, perhaps you wouldn't have it done to them."

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Originally posted by bluefish:
You cannot refute even one example I provided.

I will give you that Trump had better border enforcement, beyond that is all speculation. The whole world has experienced increased inflation, overall we have faired far better than most. Whether that is because of the current administration or in spite of it is debatable, what is not up for debate is the current strength of our economy.

It is in no way clear Trump would have done any better under the current circumstances.

The current circumstances as you call the. Are due to Biden and his failure as an administration. The prior administration had none of these problems.

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Originally posted by bluefish:
The current circumstances as you call the. Are due to Biden and his failure as an administration. The prior administration had none of these problems.

Rubbish.

The inflation we are experiencing is something every Western nation is going through post pandemic, it is not something just happening here. China was shut down for years, supply chains have been disrupted, there is a war going on.

You want an easy answer to complex problems, most likely due to the fact that you are a simpleton.

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by bluefish:
An effective POTUS? By what measure? For example four years ago gas was cheaper, the border was more secure, international hostilities were low, unemployment amongst blacks was lower, interest rates were lower, inflation was lower, and people were keeping more of the dollars they earned. Shall we keep going? I stand by my previous statement dummy.

You mean before the world wide pandemic changed the economy?

No matter for me, during the Biden admin I have had my strongest three years since Clinton was the POTUS and I worked in Telecom.

I would like to see the cost of energy stabilize but between Putin and MBS that will not happen anytime soon.

We currently have some of the lowest unemployment on record, strong wage gains for workers and and economy full of pent up demand.

International hostilities lower under Trump? Only because he was buddying up to dictators, murders and other despots. Not to mention the moron was constantly attacking our allies.

I'm sure you will keep going, deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole.

A world wide pandemic (a redundancy, by the way) did not change the economy. That was the stupid response to a perceived threat (by both the Trump and Biden administrations; along with most of the governments in the western world). This included paying people for not working, gutting production and transport systems, and going further and further into debt. Regards, Bill

Any what of the supply chain? China being locked down for years?

That most certainly changed the economy and drove inflation up.

Inflation is a result of too many dollars being pumped into circulation. Read up. The Google says so.

Only part of the story, you might want to read up a bit yourself. Economics have changed some since you were a boy back in the pre-WWII days.

Strange assessment. Have you read your Milton Friedman lately?

Have you noticed that inflation is not localized currently? EVERY western nation is experiencing inflation, even ones who did not have stimulus packages? The situation is world wide, not just related to US monetary policy.

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Originally posted by Bill Leeper:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by bluefish:
An effective POTUS? By what measure? For example four years ago gas was cheaper, the border was more secure, international hostilities were low, unemployment amongst blacks was lower, interest rates were lower, inflation was lower, and people were keeping more of the dollars they earned. Shall we keep going? I stand by my previous statement dummy.

You mean before the world wide pandemic changed the economy?

No matter for me, during the Biden admin I have had my strongest three years since Clinton was the POTUS and I worked in Telecom.

I would like to see the cost of energy stabilize but between Putin and MBS that will not happen anytime soon.

We currently have some of the lowest unemployment on record, strong wage gains for workers and and economy full of pent up demand.

International hostilities lower under Trump? Only because he was buddying up to dictators, murders and other despots. Not to mention the moron was constantly attacking our allies.

I'm sure you will keep going, deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole.

A world wide pandemic (a redundancy, by the way) did not change the economy. That was the stupid response to a perceived threat (by both the Trump and Biden administrations; along with most of the governments in the western world). This included paying people for not working, gutting production and transport systems, and going further and further into debt. Regards, Bill

So, some folks are FULLY on-board with a state run media? Interesting -

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Biden Takes the Gloves Off

before or after he changed his depends

Ya'll know "Biden" didn't write these, his handlers did, right?

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
So, some folks are FULLY on-board with a state run media? Interesting -

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Biden Takes the Gloves Off

before or after he changed his depends

Ya'll know "Biden" didn't write these, his handlers did, right?

That is the story the GOP has to stick to if they have a hope of winning next term. That and Trump won, the election was rigged, the media is against us, etc.

Biden is certainly showing his age, as are my parents who are just a few years younger than him, I do not think either are senile though.

Yep…Biden is not senile…he is early stage dementia.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Yep…Biden is not senile…he is early stage dementia.

Like I said, you have to keep repeating that in order to maintain your hope of re-electing that orange Buffoon who is currently under 91 felony indictments.

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Originally posted by skb:

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Ya'll know "Biden" didn't write these, his handlers did, right?

That is the story the GOP has to stick to if they have a hope of winning next term. That and Trump won, the election was rigged, the media is against us, etc.

Biden won - not GOP, and it's still state run media, Steve -- don't rely on your mental crutch that everyone who disagrees with is the enemy .. speaking of which, your political opponents aren't enemies of the state -- yet

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Ya'll know "Biden" didn't write these, his handlers did, right?

That is the story the GOP has to stick to if they have a hope of winning next term. That and Trump won, the election was rigged, the media is against us, etc.

Biden won - not GOP, and it's still state run media, Steve -- don't rely on your mental crutch that everyone who disagrees with is the enemy .. speaking of which, your political opponents aren't enemies of the state -- yet

State run media as opposed to media run billionaires who intentionally manipulate the story to forward their political goals? Maybe I should tune into Fox, Newsmax, OAN, the Epoch Times?

I think I'll stick to the BBC thanks.

America needs a statesman POTUS (not the usual party hack) who is at the top of his or her game.
So…. leaving aside for now whether or not Joe is a party hack, is he at the top of his game?
“Senile” is a relative term as to progression. Is Joe’s alleged mental deterioration already senility? You’ve got a right to your opinion… (which seems to be not that of the majority of Americans), but to believe he’s not compromised somewhat already is wishful thinking, I think.
As The Washington Post suggested, he’s not (any longer?) what America needs… He’s a rapidly failing old guy.
The Democrats (and Republican?) need a totally new duo.