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Originally posted by smarterthanu:
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STU - I'll let Dr. Easter answer the question about WHY! He' better qualified to answer that one, in scientific terms.
As for the BIG PICTURE, the BIG FIGHT, and we both know to what I am referring to! Come one man, stop being argumentative, and be realistic.
All I can see is you are avoiding the fight. You think I am being arguementative but I am trying to show two points. First you refuse to deal with the real issue. Second the issue that you are dealing with is being dealt with mediocre at best science.
We have to tackle the issues that we really can change, period! Ben, I think you need a better understanding of the African Culture, before you go telling us how we should do it. I'm referring to the political culture, the black vs white culture, etc.
I have a very firm grasp of african culture and thats not what your fighting at all. Your fighting some appointed desk jockies who are attacking your hunting culture. The african culture is perfectly happy to let you keep hunting lions as long as you keep paying them money. What part of this Salazaar dude is living in a mud hut herding goats with three stems of corn?
I also think you need a better understanding of how important hunting is to the overall longevity of ALL of Africa's wildlife! Something we have discussed many times, and one where Lion Hunting is the MOST important element of all, in countries like Zambia/Tanzania. We must start doing it right! If we don't, and if we lose it, almost all wildlife in places like TZ/Zambia, is finished.
Exactly my point! I do know how important hunting is to all wildlife, not just african. I also know that in the past two decades more areas have opened up for hunting in africa than the previous 5 decades before that and it keeps getting better. Not because of activists but because it is fiscaly sound. This is why I asked you the questions about what is the goal of shooting only lions that are not breeding. You have bought into this narrow view that you must have as many lions as possible in hunting concessions. Which on paper sounds like utopia but when you are running a hunting concession and you have to ballance profit and loss and real wildlife management that might not be too smart. You need to start looking at how complex this big picture is and how wide government oversite spurred by just a few scientists with a very narrow view of the problem could royaly screw up hunting for tons of people who never gave a damn about hunting a lion.
Dude, you're so far from understanding the African Culture (Political Culture), that no amount of explaining it to you, will change that.
You think I'm the one who's avoiding the fight?? Well please my friend, either get in the game or keep standing on the sidelines, what's it gonna be?
First off, if you really understood how much the preservation of lion hunting and all African hunting is the fight, and is how WE can deal with the REAL issue, you would understand what the issue really is.
Do you not find it a bit odd, that everyone else disagrees with you? The ones that have been fighting and working on this issue, the ones that have studied and understand the science, the ones that have spent years in the field studying, hunting and observing the lion, the ones that have PHD's, the ones that have used that education/field experience to develop sound scientific data refutting your arm-chair quarterback opinion, etc, etc. Everyone I know, all the scientists, hunters, PH's, and concerned citizens who have looked at, reviewed and understand the issues ALL agree. But according to you, we are ALL wrong? The science is wrong, the way we deal with the problems are wrong, our position on the political issues are wrong, were just WRONG! Or could it be, just possibly, that you're WRONG??
You know Ben, one thing I learned along time ago is this. The person who thinks he knows it ALL, is only showing everyone just how little he actually knows. But, it can be hard to recognize when everyone else really is "SMARTER THAN U"!!
I'm headed to the gym now, my frustration level with you is through room. I'm sure you'll tell me how I should be working out too. But since I spent years as an amateur body-builder, I think I've got that one figured out. But your welcome to throw in your $0.02 opinion!
Aaron Neilson
Global Hunting Resources
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