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well hell, forget it then!  on second thought-what about the pants?? Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… | |||
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I have no "irons in this fire" but found this thread entertaining. Even to the point of finding this pic of CB with CE:  ________ Ray | |||
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Many times a staff writer is assigned articles to write in return for manufacturers advertising in the publication. Never forget that the articles only exist to fill space between the ads. In other words if Writer A works for Dung and Whammo magazine and manufacturer B produces a new Deathray and wants to push it they will buy a full page ad on the inside front cover and the Editor assigns the writer to do a T&E article on it that sheds favorable reports on it. The writer gets his fee for writing the article, the magazine gets advertising dollars and the manufacturer gets a celebrity to say the product is good and increases sales. | |||
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Magic act? Make your money disappear? | |||
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I ignore most Baldry/Wendell angles! A day spent in the bush is a day added to your life Hunt Australia - Website Hunt Australia - Facebook Hunt Australia - TV | |||
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who is CE??? Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… | |||
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In the interest of full disclosure: 1. I was in the house, but so was her husband ... Don't want any rumors started. 2. I am not receiving any compensation above a couple ... Ok, maybe three bowls of Moose stew. 3. While I don't know Andrew personally, I think its about a 60/40 split me/him on the value added to the shirt. He may disagree ... whatever. | |||
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Aaron, I don't watch any of the shows you have mentioned - we don't get them here. All we get is what the Outdoor Channel shows. Now, can you please explain to me what you mean in the following sentence? "...SAEED - First off, you are wrong on one thing. I don't get a DIME from Ruger, Hornady, Leica, or any of the other companies that sponsor the shows produced by SAFARI CLASSICS, period!!!!!!..." As I have not seen any of the SAFARI CLASSICS, I cannot make a judgment unless you tell me what is actually going on . For instance, are your hunts shown in SAFARI CLASSICS? Are you getting paid for your hunts to be shown on Safari Classics or are you giving them your footage for free? If you are getting paid for your hunts to be shown, and the manufacturer's who sponsor the show like Ruger, Hornady, Leica and others who are advertised on the show, then indirectly they are paying you. Your explanation might clear my understanding of how commercially produced films are paid for. | |||
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I feel pretty confident those "sponsors" are contributing to the show financially in some form or fashion. They may npt pay Aaron directly but they are paying some entity. | |||
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You don't get nothing for free in this world! | |||
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That picture is shocking! I had concocted a mental image of Conrad...he looked about 15 years old, wore baggy pants hanging off his ass and had on a baseball cap worn sideways. Now that I see his much-more-mature countenance, I realize that he is practically old enough for honourary douchenozzle status. | |||
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Yes you do. AR is free. We don't have any sponsors, and we don't ask you to pay for all the GLOBAL ENTERTAINMENT we provide you with here | |||
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AR Free??? Hardly!!! We all have to endure Shootaway!!! A high price to pay! A high price to pay!!  | |||
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He looks old enough to know better. | |||
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Aren't you forgetting one simple fact? That not just Shootaway, but the rest of us have to endure you to  | |||
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CE is not other than our friend CONRAD EVART - (Google me)! The man who invented a new system of collecting money for CB by selling his soiled T-shirts! The very same man who called you, yes you, an old woman, living in the stone age. He came with all excitement to bring us all into the 21st century, as he thought we needed some education to remove all our ignorance in matter pertaining to hunting. Sadly, he must have been in a dream. As he woke up, he realized these same old ladies have more cajones that the enormous ones he claimed of having. Waking up to reality is a bitch isn't it? | |||
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Does that mean nobody wants to buy my dirty T-Shirts?  | |||
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Friendship, loyalty and the desire to help are not sins. They are virtues. I might wish for a more sensible and prudent ally than Conrad, but not a truer or stauncher one. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Todd, You're distracting buyers from Joyce's sale above.  Cheers Jim ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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Looks like China. | |||
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Cannot agree more, and if/when it goes tits up, no one owes anyone a dime? OR a shirt, or a cap?  We had an AR dinner in Atlanta which Graig and Donna joined. It was light hearted ussual AR fun, and I must say that I enjoyed their company a lot. Bad G's this for sure....Charl van Rooyen Owner Infinito Travel Group www.infinito-safaris.com charl@infinito-safaris.com Cell: +27 78 444 7661 Tel: +27 13 262 4077 Fax:+27 13 262 3845 Hereford Street 28A Groblersdal 0470 Limpopo R.S.A. "For the Infinite adventure" Plains Game Dangerous Game Bucket List Specialists Wing-Shooting In House Taxidermy Studio In House Dip and Pack Facility In House Shipping Service Non-Hunting Tours and Safaris Flight bookings "I promise every hunter visiting us our personal attention from the moment we meet you, until your trophies hang on your wall. Our all inclusive service chain means you work with one person (me) taking responsibility during the whole process. Affordable and reputable Hunting Safaris is our game! With a our all inclusive door to door service, who else do you want to have fun with?" South Africa Tanzania Uganda | |||
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Now that everyone appears done with ripping Mr Evart up for shit paper (well deserved IMHO) can we focus back on the allegations of poaching Banteng in Aussie. It's not often our fair nation is the centre of a good stoush on AR and I was hoping this would tide me thru the cold snap we are experiencing here in Queensland. Matt - you must know more about this - what say you on the allegation that Pennicot is/was a poacher !!! | |||
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Greg Rodriguez (RIP) told me in January that the banteng hunt was shown on TV in the USA (The Boddington Experience??) and they were flying about in a helicopter apparently. There was also some Facebook posts about it, I understand. I never saw the show, so can't comment on that any further. I don't know if the hunt was out on Cobourg Peninsula, (ie. in the National Park)? I will say however that helicopter + banteng always rings alarm bells! I can also say that I do know Craig - I cannot imagine that he would ever knowingly get involved in any illegal hunting shenanigans.... My own dealings with Craig have always been sincere, honest and professional - and I have said that many times here on AR, when Craig's name has come up for criticism. A day spent in the bush is a day added to your life Hunt Australia - Website Hunt Australia - Facebook Hunt Australia - TV | |||
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And I wake up, and look at this website and cannot believe it is not cluttered with sales advertisements. If this went commercial, no telling what we see Walter selling in the way of Blaser's, Walterhog Bullets and other well used equipment. | |||
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Just what I thought. Anything illegal went on MUST be the PH's fault. There is no in hell Craig is going to get involved in such a thing. | |||
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dam looks like this bunch has Craig guilty of everything except the Lindbergh kidnapping.It's obvious that majority of you have never meet the man. Or know anything about his character. | |||
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Guys, after some reflection this morning - while after buffalo, it occurred to me that I frankly made a mistake in telling the public how much I am paying for this hunt. Truth is, neither I, CB, or anyone else with any association to the "hunting" industry owes anyone an explanation about a darn thing. What I make, how I make it, what I spend it on, and what I pay for hunts is absolutely no one's biz but my own. Fortunately for me, I was raised different than some. My father who passed away 16 yrs ago taught me a lot of life's rules, and I only wish he was still around to remind me of them from time to time. 1. He always said - "son, if you want to see a person react in a way that you never thought possible, do one of two things. Mess with their family, or mess with their livelihood, and see what happens". 2. He always told me - "never ask a man how much money he makes, or question how it makes it". Its none of your damn biz, as a man's family and his livelihood are two of the most sacred/important things he has in his life". 3. "Never say anything about anyone that you are not willing/prepared to say to their face". One of my father's biggest dislikes was a man who was as he put it - "a chicken s**t. (i.e. - goofball54) So for anyone to think CB, I, Tim Herald or anyone else owes an explanation regarding our financial position - I say this. Too damn bad you didn't have a figure in your life that instilled better, values/morales, and respect for others, their livelihood, and their private biz. This whole thread is the exact reason why good posters are less and less on AR, it has nothing to do with HUNT REPORTS. When was the last time you saw someone being criticized for a hunt report? The reason for AR's decline is right here in the last 9 pages of garbage. First an anonymous poster, with nothing better to do that try to drag down CB, or just stir the pot, and for what purpose??? At least be a man, and say who you are, if you're gonna run down a man's rep, and potentially his livelihood. Who gives a damn what he's selling, for what price, or who he's selling it to? Good lord, get a hobby, and worry about yourself. Threads like this are nothing more than grown men mostly, at least physically - playing "Days of our lives"! The drama is as one member said to me today in a PM - "like a bunch of 9 yr old school girls". SPOT ON MY FRIEND! As for the - "what's Aaron spending/getting paid/from who/for what, disclosure, blah, blah, blah crowd". i.e., goofball54. If you folks spent half as much time focusing on making your own money, and a lot less of it worry about what others are doing - you'd be here doing it, instead of at home banging away on the computer in the comfort of your own home - hoping to run down others. In simple terms - get a life. I got one, and I love it. Maybe you should try it sometime. As for the thread - I'm done. Too many buffalo to chase, and I'm having too good of a time doing it to bother with this any longer. Got on two groups of 3 dagga boys this morning, could have shot them all - but none were mature enough to shoot. So the search continues. Here's to hoping that most of you have a great day!!!!! | |||
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AMEN!!!!! | |||
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Well put. | |||
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When you turn to the internet to raise money for your own personal website, I'm sorry, but you call your financial situation into debate. And when you resort to selling used shirts to raise money for your own personal website, I'm sorry, but you leave yourself open to criticism for being foolish. If you want to avoid public debate of such issues, then do not raise those issues yourself in public. Pretty simple actually. Mike | |||
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It's funny when people complain about social media, like AR - but then throw in their 2 cents worth!! A day spent in the bush is a day added to your life Hunt Australia - Website Hunt Australia - Facebook Hunt Australia - TV | |||
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I agree with MJines. Aaron, run your business as you see fit. What you make and how you make it is up to you. Where I draw the line is when a celebrity of sorts starts telling us that XYZ scope is the best and that you will see better with it, and is being paid to do it, and may own part of the outfit selling it - then goes on a hunt, attempts to use the scope, the scope fails, they tape over the gold rings on the replacement scope then act as if the failed scope was on the gun when the shots were fired... I fail to see the honesty in this. I can verifty this occurred with one of the people in this thread. I have to agree with Saeed - if a "shill" is touting the virtues of a TC gun or Aimpoint or Trijicon or Ruger - I am skeptical. It is like the pro golfers - they are paid a lot of money to tout the club, the ball, the shoes, the clothes they wear. I do not trust them but at least it is very clear they are being paid to say and play the product. In CB's case, he has represented most of the manufacturers out there. We all know that not every gun is created equal or scope has the same optics. Will they work? Most of time yes, but the failed scope episode that I have first hand knowledge of, lowered the credibility of the guy touting the failed scope. In CB or Ivan Carter or Shockey or however is shilling - you put the target on your own back by touting products that "I trust my life with and you can to". I don't trust my life to any of these products or "shills". They are in business to make money by getting me to buy the product so they get paid. In this case, there is a level of accountability that seems to be missing. Aaron, make the money can - ethically and honestly. I believer that is what your dad was telling you. | |||
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"Do as I say, not as I do" Is an apt description of some of our posters. | |||
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Precisely!!!! If I tried this in my business, there would be a massive uproar from émployees and clients. This is no different. | |||
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Aren't we supposed to discuss something that relevant to African hunting? Craig is a well known and respected hunter. Shouldn't we have an opinion on something he had posted on the Internet? | |||
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+1. It is at least POSSIBLE that CB has some company handling FB and his website on his behalf. Perhaps he doesn't know. I am betting be does. Interestingly, I just saw someone else trying to raise money this way. It was a bunch of college kids trying to raise money for an APP. I have to conclude one of the following. Either - (A) CB is in trouble financially or (B) CB has total morons handling his affairs on his behalf. | |||
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Saeed - I thought you said this was an "International Fun" site? Why talk about all things Africa, when we can slam, shame and belittle others without fact or actual knowledge of a situation? Larry Sellers SCI Life Member
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There's a whole lot of truth in this thread...and a whole lot of running for cover it seems!  Frankly, I don't give a damn about how a guy makes his money or how he relates to his own family or who his friends are....except when those financial or biological or social relationships are concealed (or at least not revealed) and it comes to impact me and my decisions in a manipulative way. If a writer gives good reviews to a hunting area run by his brother in law, I deserve to know about that relationship. If a TV host films a hunt on his good old friends ranch and gets a cut of future hunt revenue, I deserve to know about it. If a guy pays less than the market rate for a hunt because he has promised an article on the subject, I deserve to know about it. Have I received deals because of pieces I wrote? Probably...but I never got a deal BEFORE having written the article and never had a deal promised for the future before having written anything. It's not my livelihood so I don't go looking for those deals, have no reason to be less than honest in an assessment, and have no reason to not be up-front if such financial arrangements came to exist. It's a pity that the pros can be less than forthright. If writers and TV hosts aren't open with those payment arrangements and back room deals, the consumers of what is put out there by them have no choice but to assume that ALL pieces of writing and TV hunting shows are severely tainted in favor of whatever outfitter is being profiled. This is, quite frankly, a wise suspicion to follow but it is a shame that it is encouraged by folks being less than transparent. | |||
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