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Originally posted by MJines:
. . . interesting and ironic. We have fellow hunters defending someone who royally (pun intended) screwed over another hunter and worse, then attempting to drag the hunter through the mud for something totally unrelated. Pathetic actually.

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monthly income $1,000.00 monthly expenses $10,800.00

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Originally posted by MJines:
. . . speaking of pathetic.

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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monthly income $1,000.00 monthly expenses $10,800.00

Hence my earlier comment:

"The veracity of the information provided in the Bankruptcy Declaration appear suspiciously dubious to the layman who may be ignorant on how these cases are presented and expedited".

Hell, I pay my mother's minder Euro 1,000 per month working 24 hrs per week.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by MJines:
. . . speaking of pathetic.

You, Corey, dogcat and all your brainless cheerleaders!

Absolutely, positively, PATHETIC!

Accusing an innocent man with a crime.

And supporting a criminal who has admitted his crime!

Go figure!

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Originally posted by jdollar:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by MJines:
. . . speaking of pathetic.

You, Corey, dogcat and all your brainless cheerleaders!

Absolutely, positively, PATHETIC!

Accusing an innocent man with a crime.

And supporting a criminal who has admitted his crime!

Go figure!

What crime did he commit?? Declaring bankruptcy isn’t illegal, at least not here. Is it illegal in UAE??

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Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by MJines:
. . . speaking of pathetic.

You, Corey, dogcat and all your brainless cheerleaders!

Absolutely, positively, PATHETIC!

Accusing an innocent man with a crime.

And supporting a criminal who has admitted his crime!

Go figure!

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Originally posted by Charlie64:
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Saeed, Rereading parts of this thread I am really amazed at the way you are throwing insults around -

'when are you going to get it into your brainless head..'

referring to someone as 'Einstein'

'brainless stupid cheerleaders'

'idiots' and more and more and more!


Would you say that to Mike, Buzz and Ross if they were sitting across the table from you or is it simply because you are hiding behind your keyboard? Or do you think in Arabic and then translate to English ?

Your insults and name calling is below you. Shame.

All the same, all the best for the New Year.


And PS I know the rules " if I dont like it I can leave the site and good riddance".....

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Got messages from some of the professional hunters.

Basically saying under no circumstances would they entertain hosting ANYONE like Corey if they knew beforehand what he had done!

Apparently some people still have morals!

So may be this thread does have some positive ideas!

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Originally posted by Kpoynter:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
Got messages from some of the professional hunters.

Basically saying under no circumstances would they entertain hosting ANYONE like Corey if they knew beforehand what he had done!

Apparently some people still have morals!

So may be this thread does have some positive ideas!

BS… you mean based on what you intentionally smeared someone with and lied about. He declared BK yes… translation to your comment… Alan Vincent, who’s concession in TZ you fund, said blah blah after you told him someone was a crook and maybe someone else…after you lied about someone and they actually believed you.

The rest are complete lies and fabrications.
Your lying and calling people crooks and thieves all the time is ridiculous.
You have totally and completely twisted someone having a failed business and having to file BK into a complete lie and smear about being a crook etc. with ZERO BASIS
Your sole assault on someone is based on this and the fact they were able to rebound 2 to 3 years later after losing their business with zero knowledge or facts. Then of course you ignore anything or anyone contrary as always.

Amazingly you completely ignored fact after fact on Andrew based on only one thing…Ibi was the only one who physically received money

You amazingly fabricate people into being Crooks and Thieves with startling regularity around here
Sometimes over tipping policy you don’t like (because you pay for entire concessions etc)
Sometimes because to reserve one single animal one time for someone based on their own request

You are about like someone here hurling smears like “racist” or whatever. The words lose their meaning to anyone with sense.

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by Kpoynter:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
Got messages from some of the professional hunters.

Basically saying under no circumstances would they entertain hosting ANYONE like Corey if they knew beforehand what he had done!

Apparently some people still have morals!

So may be this thread does have some positive ideas!

BS… you mean based on what you intentionally smeared someone with and lied about. He declared BK yes… translation to your comment… Alan Vincent, who’s concession in TZ you fund, said blah blah after you told him someone was a crook and maybe someone else…after you lied about someone and they actually believed you.

The rest are complete lies and fabrications.
Your lying and calling people crooks and thieves all the time is ridiculous.
You have totally and completely twisted someone having a failed business and having to file BK into a complete lie and smear about being a crook etc. with ZERO BASIS
Your sole assault on someone is based on this and the fact they were able to rebound 2 to 3 years later after losing their business with zero knowledge or facts. Then of course you ignore anything or anyone contrary as always.

Amazingly you completely ignored fact after fact on Andrew based on only one thing…Ibi was the only one who physically received money

You amazingly fabricate people into being Crooks and Thieves with startling regularity around here
Sometimes over tipping policy you don’t like (because you pay for entire concessions etc)
Sometimes because to reserve one single animal one time for someone based on their own request

You are about like someone here hurling smears like “racist” or whatever. The words lose their meaning to anyone with sense.

You lot accusing an innocent man of taking money means nothing?

And me accusing a proven crook, who took 542,000 of innocent Americans is wrong??

The word IDIOTS comes to mind.

In our society, those who refuse see reason, are classified as IDIOTS!

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Originally posted by Kpoynter:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by Kpoynter:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
Got messages from some of the professional hunters.

Basically saying under no circumstances would they entertain hosting ANYONE like Corey if they knew beforehand what he had done!

Apparently some people still have morals!

So may be this thread does have some positive ideas!

BS… you mean based on what you intentionally smeared someone with and lied about. He declared BK yes… translation to your comment… Alan Vincent, who’s concession in TZ you fund, said blah blah after you told him someone was a crook and maybe someone else…after you lied about someone and they actually believed you.

The rest are complete lies and fabrications.
Your lying and calling people crooks and thieves all the time is ridiculous.
You have totally and completely twisted someone having a failed business and having to file BK into a complete lie and smear about being a crook etc. with ZERO BASIS
Your sole assault on someone is based on this and the fact they were able to rebound 2 to 3 years later after losing their business with zero knowledge or facts. Then of course you ignore anything or anyone contrary as always.

Amazingly you completely ignored fact after fact on Andrew based on only one thing…Ibi was the only one who physically received money

You amazingly fabricate people into being Crooks and Thieves with startling regularity around here
Sometimes over tipping policy you don’t like (because you pay for entire concessions etc)
Sometimes because to reserve one single animal one time for someone based on their own request

You are about like someone here hurling smears like “racist” or whatever. The words lose their meaning to anyone with sense.

You lot accusing an innocent man of taking money means nothing?

And me accusing a proven crook, who took 542,000 of innocent Americans is wrong??

The word IDIOTS comes to mind.

In our society, those who refuse see reason, are classified as IDIOTS!

Your reading comprehension must not be all that great cause there you go again Saeed…
When did “we” accuse Andrew of taking money himself?
I believe the answer is NEVER but that’s part of your twisting still. Not once was this EVER part of the argument. It is ONLY the keystone of your false “Defense”
The entire argument started with
1) Andrew’s Hypocrisy in a similar situation that brought this to light
2) Andrew’s role in Advertising, pursuing, selling, and organizing the entire fiasco (yes of course with Ibi’s Concession or what became his Non-concession)
3) Very Legitimate Questions about what did Andrew know and when that have NEVER BEEN ANSWERED about the Concession and how this came unraveled
4) Andrew’s role and knowledge not only in soliciting ADDITIONAL money for the Father very shortly before the safari was to take place
5) Andrew’s role and knowledge in the refunds to others using Corey’s money (which they clearly did and note he has NEVER addressed this issue).

So none of the Obfuscation and deceptions about the above change anything

Then…. YOU dredge up with the inexorable help of others a smear campaign TOTALLY UNRELATED

You maintain and use incorrect smears still saying “proven crook” who “took” money from “innocent Americans”
All three of these things are actually proven LIES by you
1) Bankruptcy does NOT EQUAL “Proven Crook”. You have zero basis for this smear and the fact that it was adjudicated properly in Court proves the OPPOSITE
2) No one “TOOK” money from anyone. Again, you simply injecting this term doesn’t make it true as usual. A business no longer being able to pay debts after struggling, the owners losing their money, savings, houses etc to keep paying employees and others as long as possible…. That is most certainly not “taking” money
3) Innocent Americans? Who? These have been addressed but you refuse to listen because it doesn’t fit your narrative.

It’s fair to wonder about how someone rebounded (also answered) and made decisions about going on safari (also answered). That would be natural albeit TOTALLY UNRELATED.

So, it doesn’t really matter what the facts are…they never seemed to have mattered here for some odd reason.
All that matters are ignoring facts when convenient about some things and making unfounded accusations and hurling the following non factual terms at others

1) Crook
2) Thief
3) Liar
4) Innocent
5) Wrong Man

Rinse and Repeat as often as necessary until one of two things happen

1) people believe them or;
2) people simply get fatigued enough with the BS that they leave or simply disengage (see exodus of contributors of last 5-10 years as evidence)

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Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by Kpoynter:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by Kpoynter:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
Got messages from some of the professional hunters.

Basically saying under no circumstances would they entertain hosting ANYONE like Corey if they knew beforehand what he had done!

Apparently some people still have morals!

So may be this thread does have some positive ideas!

BS… you mean based on what you intentionally smeared someone with and lied about. He declared BK yes… translation to your comment… Alan Vincent, who’s concession in TZ you fund, said blah blah after you told him someone was a crook and maybe someone else…after you lied about someone and they actually believed you.

The rest are complete lies and fabrications.
Your lying and calling people crooks and thieves all the time is ridiculous.
You have totally and completely twisted someone having a failed business and having to file BK into a complete lie and smear about being a crook etc. with ZERO BASIS
Your sole assault on someone is based on this and the fact they were able to rebound 2 to 3 years later after losing their business with zero knowledge or facts. Then of course you ignore anything or anyone contrary as always.

Amazingly you completely ignored fact after fact on Andrew based on only one thing…Ibi was the only one who physically received money

You amazingly fabricate people into being Crooks and Thieves with startling regularity around here
Sometimes over tipping policy you don’t like (because you pay for entire concessions etc)
Sometimes because to reserve one single animal one time for someone based on their own request

You are about like someone here hurling smears like “racist” or whatever. The words lose their meaning to anyone with sense.

You lot accusing an innocent man of taking money means nothing?

And me accusing a proven crook, who took 542,000 of innocent Americans is wrong??

The word IDIOTS comes to mind.

In our society, those who refuse see reason, are classified as IDIOTS!

Your reading comprehension must not be all that great cause there you go again Saeed…
When did “we” accuse Andrew of taking money himself?
I believe the answer is NEVER but that’s part of your twisting still. Not once was this EVER part of the argument. It is ONLY the keystone of your false “Defense”
The entire argument started with
1) Andrew’s Hypocrisy in a similar situation that brought this to light
2) Andrew’s role in Advertising, pursuing, selling, and organizing the entire fiasco (yes of course with Ibi’s Concession or what became his Non-concession)
3) Very Legitimate Questions about what did Andrew know and when that have NEVER BEEN ANSWERED about the Concession and how this came unraveled
4) Andrew’s role and knowledge not only in soliciting ADDITIONAL money for the Father very shortly before the safari was to take place
5) Andrew’s role and knowledge in the refunds to others using Corey’s money (which they clearly did and note he has NEVER addressed this issue).

So none of the Obfuscation and deceptions about the above change anything

Then…. YOU dredge up with the inexorable help of others a smear campaign TOTALLY UNRELATED

You maintain and use incorrect smears still saying “proven crook” who “took” money from “innocent Americans”
All three of these things are actually proven LIES by you
1) Bankruptcy does NOT EQUAL “Proven Crook”. You have zero basis for this smear and the fact that it was adjudicated properly in Court proves the OPPOSITE
2) No one “TOOK” money from anyone. Again, you simply injecting this term doesn’t make it true as usual. A business no longer being able to pay debts after struggling, the owners losing their money, savings, houses etc to keep paying employees and others as long as possible…. That is most certainly not “taking” money
3) Innocent Americans? Who? These have been addressed but you refuse to listen because it doesn’t fit your narrative.

It’s fair to wonder about how someone rebounded (also answered) and made decisions about going on safari (also answered). That would be natural albeit TOTALLY UNRELATED.

So, it doesn’t really matter what the facts are…they never seemed to have mattered here for some odd reason.
All that matters are ignoring facts when convenient about some things and making unfounded accusations and hurling the following non factual terms at others

1) Crook
2) Thief
3) Liar
4) Innocent
5) Wrong Man

Rinse and Repeat as often as necessary until one of two things happen

1) people believe them or;
2) people simply get fatigued enough with the BS that they leave or simply disengage (see exodus of contributors of last 5-10 years as evidence)

Carry with your ignorant bullshit!

All this thread was attacking Andrew.

Who has NEVER RECEIVED A PENNY from our crook, Corey.

The money was sent from Corey to Ibi.

End of that part of the story.

Second part is Corey robbed innocent Americans of 542,000 dollars by declaring bankrupt.

Soon after , he magically found 80,000 dollars to send to Ibi for a safari in Zambia.

As if that was not enough.

He books another expensive safari in Tanzania!

How often would you like me to repeat this for it to sink into your thick head??

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Originally posted by Kpoynter:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by Kpoynter:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by Kpoynter:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
Got messages from some of the professional hunters.

Basically saying under no circumstances would they entertain hosting ANYONE like Corey if they knew beforehand what he had done!

Apparently some people still have morals!

So may be this thread does have some positive ideas!

BS… you mean based on what you intentionally smeared someone with and lied about. He declared BK yes… translation to your comment… Alan Vincent, who’s concession in TZ you fund, said blah blah after you told him someone was a crook and maybe someone else…after you lied about someone and they actually believed you.

The rest are complete lies and fabrications.
Your lying and calling people crooks and thieves all the time is ridiculous.
You have totally and completely twisted someone having a failed business and having to file BK into a complete lie and smear about being a crook etc. with ZERO BASIS
Your sole assault on someone is based on this and the fact they were able to rebound 2 to 3 years later after losing their business with zero knowledge or facts. Then of course you ignore anything or anyone contrary as always.

Amazingly you completely ignored fact after fact on Andrew based on only one thing…Ibi was the only one who physically received money

You amazingly fabricate people into being Crooks and Thieves with startling regularity around here
Sometimes over tipping policy you don’t like (because you pay for entire concessions etc)
Sometimes because to reserve one single animal one time for someone based on their own request

You are about like someone here hurling smears like “racist” or whatever. The words lose their meaning to anyone with sense.

You lot accusing an innocent man of taking money means nothing?

And me accusing a proven crook, who took 542,000 of innocent Americans is wrong??

The word IDIOTS comes to mind.

In our society, those who refuse see reason, are classified as IDIOTS!

Your reading comprehension must not be all that great cause there you go again Saeed…
When did “we” accuse Andrew of taking money himself?
I believe the answer is NEVER but that’s part of your twisting still. Not once was this EVER part of the argument. It is ONLY the keystone of your false “Defense”
The entire argument started with
1) Andrew’s Hypocrisy in a similar situation that brought this to light
2) Andrew’s role in Advertising, pursuing, selling, and organizing the entire fiasco (yes of course with Ibi’s Concession or what became his Non-concession)
3) Very Legitimate Questions about what did Andrew know and when that have NEVER BEEN ANSWERED about the Concession and how this came unraveled
4) Andrew’s role and knowledge not only in soliciting ADDITIONAL money for the Father very shortly before the safari was to take place
5) Andrew’s role and knowledge in the refunds to others using Corey’s money (which they clearly did and note he has NEVER addressed this issue).

So none of the Obfuscation and deceptions about the above change anything

Then…. YOU dredge up with the inexorable help of others a smear campaign TOTALLY UNRELATED

You maintain and use incorrect smears still saying “proven crook” who “took” money from “innocent Americans”
All three of these things are actually proven LIES by you
1) Bankruptcy does NOT EQUAL “Proven Crook”. You have zero basis for this smear and the fact that it was adjudicated properly in Court proves the OPPOSITE
2) No one “TOOK” money from anyone. Again, you simply injecting this term doesn’t make it true as usual. A business no longer being able to pay debts after struggling, the owners losing their money, savings, houses etc to keep paying employees and others as long as possible…. That is most certainly not “taking” money
3) Innocent Americans? Who? These have been addressed but you refuse to listen because it doesn’t fit your narrative.

It’s fair to wonder about how someone rebounded (also answered) and made decisions about going on safari (also answered). That would be natural albeit TOTALLY UNRELATED.

So, it doesn’t really matter what the facts are…they never seemed to have mattered here for some odd reason.
All that matters are ignoring facts when convenient about some things and making unfounded accusations and hurling the following non factual terms at others

1) Crook
2) Thief
3) Liar
4) Innocent
5) Wrong Man

Rinse and Repeat as often as necessary until one of two things happen

1) people believe them or;
2) people simply get fatigued enough with the BS that they leave or simply disengage (see exodus of contributors of last 5-10 years as evidence)

Carry with your ignorant bullshit!

All this thread was attacking Andrew.

Who has NEVER RECEIVED A PENNY from our crook, Corey.

The money was sent from Corey to Ibi.

End of that part of the story.

Second part is Corey robbed innocent Americans of 542,000 dollars by declaring bankrupt.

Soon after , he magically found 80,000 dollars to send to Ibi for a safari in Zambia.

As if that was not enough.

He books another expensive safari in Tanzania!

How often would you like me to repeat this for it to sink into your thick head??

See…you changed your story/arguemnt and said things that are true.
See how easy that is when you try
Yes, Andrew never received a penny (of course this ignores everything else)
Yes, soon (three years after starting a new business) “magically found” $80,000. Honestly, it did entail significant good fortune and honestly some luck but yes. See how easy it is to ask a simple honest question (unrelated though it may be)
Hell… I would even say I personally wouldn’t have done it because I’m far too conservative.
Soon thereafter (for 2025…) put a deposit on the Concession you personally finance…
Yeah…not something I would have advised either but he did cancel as it was ill advised and told Alan to keep the deposit (but you know all that)

Oh and for fun… you are also right. I do have a rather large and thick head lol. I struggle with hat size. Guilty as charged

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Originally posted by MJines:
. . . I always enjoy the "unnamed sources" posts. "I got a private message from God and God told me I was right and everyone else was wrong, so there." When your arguments are so spurious that you have to bring your imaginary friends into the debate to support you . . . well, you know you are in trouble. An idiot Saeed is someone who does not recognize the fallacy of their position and then back off. Might take a look in the mirror.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
I received several messages from professional hunters in Africa.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

No one likes to loose money to a bankrupt crook corrupt hunting outfitters and operators!

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Originally posted by Saeed:
I received several messages from professional hunters in Africa.

Each said he would NEVER negotiate with a client like Corey.

Going bankrupt and using the proceeds he stole to hunt with.

Main stream media or not.

The facts are right here.

You lot put the blame on Andrew.

Totally wrecking the whole argument from day one.

Then someone honest enough informed us of Corey’s misdeeds!

542,000 dollars.

Belong to some poor sod who will never see them back.

Are used to finance African safaris for a crook, who himself has posted, going bankrupt to further his future success!!

Bloody hell!

No wonder lawyers don’t like what I am saying.

Because without a crooked lawyer, those poor innocent Americans wouldn’t be left without their 542,000 dollars!

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
I received several messages from professional hunters in Africa.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
I received several messages from professional hunters in Africa.

Yes from God!

The one we, normal people believe in.

Not the one lawyers believe in.

Our God tells us the difference between right and wrong.

WRONG to accuse anyone of a crime if has not taken a penny.

RIGHT to expose a crook who takes 542,000 from innocent people to further his hunting hobby!

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Originally posted by Kpoynter:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by MJines:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
I received several messages from professional hunters in Africa.

Yes from God!

The one we, normal people believe in.

Not the one lawyers believe in.

Our God tells us the difference between right and wrong.

WRONG to accuse anyone of a crime if has not taken a penny.

RIGHT to expose a crook who takes 542,000 from innocent people to further his hunting hobby!

What does God say about falsely accusing people with no facts…
Odd…
Also “to further his hunting hobby”
See…that’s a lie Saeed.
He never hunted anywhere but his Grandfathers farm until three years after the BK.

This is like “Community Notes”

The Person Saeed Accused of stealing from to “further his hunting hobby” had never gone on a guided hunt in his life. He was introduced to Accurate Reloading and members here who introduced him to African Hinting. Three years later he went on his first hunt in Africa.

Do you find this helpful?

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Originally posted by larryshores:

quote:

Originally posted by theback40:
That money is not absorbed. The losses at the bank and creditcard co is passed on to everyone else who does business with the companies.
Others are still victims in these schemes.

I am curious . If a business failed during Covid , was that a scheme?

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Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by Kpoynter:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

quote:

Originally posted by MJines:

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
I received several messages from professional hunters in Africa.

Yes from God!

The one we, normal people believe in.

Not the one lawyers believe in.

Our God tells us the difference between right and wrong.

WRONG to accuse anyone of a crime if has not taken a penny.

RIGHT to expose a crook who takes 542,000 from innocent people to further his hunting hobby!

What does God say about falsely accusing people with no facts…
Odd…
Also “to further his hunting hobby”
See…that’s a lie Saeed.
He never hunted anywhere but his Grandfathers farm until three years after the BK.

This is like “Community Notes”

The Person Saeed Accused of stealing from to “further his hunting hobby” had never gone on a guided hunt in his life. He was introduced to Accurate Reloading and members here who introduced him to African Hinting. Three years later he went on his first hunt in Africa.

Do you find this helpful?

Did Corey not declare bankruptcy to avoid paying back 542,000 he owed??

Did Corey pay Ibi 80,000 very soon after his refusal to pay back his debt??

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When did “we” accuse Andrew of taking money himself?
I believe the answer is NEVER but that’s part of your twisting still. Not once was this EVER part of the argument. It is ONLY the keystone of your false “Defense”
The entire argument started with
1) Andrew’s Hypocrisy in a similar situation that brought this to light
2) Andrew’s role in Advertising, pursuing, selling, and organizing the entire fiasco (yes of course with Ibi’s Concession or what became his Non-concession)
3) Very Legitimate Questions about what did Andrew know and when that have NEVER BEEN ANSWERED about the Concession and how this came unraveled
4) Andrew’s role and knowledge not only in soliciting ADDITIONAL money for the Father very shortly before the safari was to take place
5) Andrew’s role and knowledge in the refunds to others using Corey’s money (which they clearly did and note he has NEVER addressed this issue).

So none of the Obfuscation and deceptions about the above change anything

quote:

Originally posted by fairgame:

quote:

When did “we” accuse Andrew of taking money himself?
I believe the answer is NEVER but that’s part of your twisting still. Not once was this EVER part of the argument. It is ONLY the keystone of your false “Defense”
The entire argument started with
1) Andrew’s Hypocrisy in a similar situation that brought this to light
2) Andrew’s role in Advertising, pursuing, selling, and organizing the entire fiasco (yes of course with Ibi’s Concession or what became his Non-concession)
3) Very Legitimate Questions about what did Andrew know and when that have NEVER BEEN ANSWERED about the Concession and how this came unraveled
4) Andrew’s role and knowledge not only in soliciting ADDITIONAL money for the Father very shortly before the safari was to take place
5) Andrew’s role and knowledge in the refunds to others using Corey’s money (which they clearly did and note he has NEVER addressed this issue).

So none of the Obfuscation and deceptions about the above change anything

No wonder Saeed gets upset when you stand up and profuse to be the truth whilst you spout secondhand playground gossip.

For example, ask Corey who negotiated a $20,000 buff hunt with Ibi? Not me. Note I did not refund anyone as I never received their money. But you continue to ignore facts and will not answer my questions or queries because they do not suit your agenda. Still waiting for my edited posts by the way.

Call our host a liar, and pathetic, and see what you get in return.

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Originally posted by Kpoynter:

quote:

Originally posted by fairgame:

quote:

When did “we” accuse Andrew of taking money himself?
I believe the answer is NEVER but that’s part of your twisting still. Not once was this EVER part of the argument. It is ONLY the keystone of your false “Defense”
The entire argument started with
1) Andrew’s Hypocrisy in a similar situation that brought this to light
2) Andrew’s role in Advertising, pursuing, selling, and organizing the entire fiasco (yes of course with Ibi’s Concession or what became his Non-concession)
3) Very Legitimate Questions about what did Andrew know and when that have NEVER BEEN ANSWERED about the Concession and how this came unraveled
4) Andrew’s role and knowledge not only in soliciting ADDITIONAL money for the Father very shortly before the safari was to take place
5) Andrew’s role and knowledge in the refunds to others using Corey’s money (which they clearly did and note he has NEVER addressed this issue).

So none of the Obfuscation and deceptions about the above change anything

No wonder Saeed gets upset when you stand up and profuse to be the truth whilst you spout secondhand playground gossip.

For example, ask Corey who negotiated a $20,000 buff hunt with Ibi? Not me. Note I did not refund anyone as I never received their money. But you continue to ignore facts and will not answer my questions or queries because they do not suit your agenda. Still waiting for my edited posts by the way.

Call our host a liar, and pathetic, and see what you get in return.

Damn Andrew
See…you twisted facts again man..why?
I didn’t say you personally refunded nor received monies.
You did facilitate them though WITH Ibi.
So while on the subject of refunds please tell us all what conversations you had with Ibi about the refunds and to whom and how much
Are you going to sit here and pretend you had no conversations with Ibi about YOUR CLIENT(S) refunds? (I believe you stated 6 from memory)
Your only “defense” would be “why it never occurred to innocent ole me” that say Ibi might use this pot of money from one person to redefine my other 6 (or whatever the right number is)
It never occurred that maybe 10+10+10 plus whatever equals IDK 60k or 80k
It never thought about or had a conversation with Ibi that I’d rather have one fucked over client than 6

Oh and about the Buffalo hunt 20k since you brought it up (you did set it up BTW)
Let’s talk about the bigger question Andrew
It’s WHEN…. The question is WHEN
You are asserting that YOU DIDNT KNOW at that time that Ibi’s concession was in trouble at this point just prior to the first hunts?

I seem to have heard that Strang Middleton knew in January I believe and warned some people. (I could be mistaken)

When did you know Andrew? Pipe on up. Address the when’s and why’s that you’ve never addressed

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Originally posted by Kpoynter:

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Originally posted by fairgame:

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When did “we” accuse Andrew of taking money himself?
I believe the answer is NEVER but that’s part of your twisting still. Not once was this EVER part of the argument. It is ONLY the keystone of your false “Defense”
The entire argument started with
1) Andrew’s Hypocrisy in a similar situation that brought this to light
2) Andrew’s role in Advertising, pursuing, selling, and organizing the entire fiasco (yes of course with Ibi’s Concession or what became his Non-concession)
3) Very Legitimate Questions about what did Andrew know and when that have NEVER BEEN ANSWERED about the Concession and how this came unraveled
4) Andrew’s role and knowledge not only in soliciting ADDITIONAL money for the Father very shortly before the safari was to take place
5) Andrew’s role and knowledge in the refunds to others using Corey’s money (which they clearly did and note he has NEVER addressed this issue).

So none of the Obfuscation and deceptions about the above change anything

No wonder Saeed gets upset when you stand up and profuse to be the truth whilst you spout secondhand playground gossip.

For example, ask Corey who negotiated a $20,000 buff hunt with Ibi? Not me. Note I did not refund anyone as I never received their money. But you continue to ignore facts and will not answer my questions or queries because they do not suit your agenda. Still waiting for my edited posts by the way.

Call our host a liar, and pathetic, and see what you get in return.

Damn Andrew
See…you twisted facts again man..why?
I didn’t say you personally refunded nor received monies.
You did facilitate them though WITH Ibi.
So while on the subject of refunds please tell us all what conversations you had with Ibi about the refunds and to whom and how much
Are you going to sit here and pretend you had no conversations with Ibi about YOUR CLIENT(S) refunds? (I believe you stated 6 from memory)
Your only “defense” would be “why it never occurred to innocent ole me” that say Ibi might use this pot of money from one person to redefine my other 6 (or whatever the right number is)
It never occurred that maybe 10+10+10 plus whatever equals IDK 60k or 80k
It never thought about or had a conversation with Ibi that I’d rather have one fucked over client than 6

Oh and about the Buffalo hunt 20k since you brought it up (you did set it up BTW)
Let’s talk about the bigger question Andrew
It’s WHEN…. The question is WHEN
You are asserting that YOU DIDNT KNOW at that time that Ibi’s concession was in trouble at this point just prior to the first hunts?

I seem to have heard that Strang Middleton knew in January I believe and warned some people. (I could be mistaken)

When did you know Andrew? Pipe on up. Address the when’s and why’s that you’ve never addressed

This has been regurgitated many times and go back to the initial Sam Farrow thread. I can post correspondence to answer your questions but will only share what I have with good friends including Saeed. You lot never stop and this interference and numerous threats and damaging accusations have well and truly fucked your friend. And not quite the professional negotiations I was hoping for.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Corey stole 542,000 from honest people!

He paid 80,000 to Ibi.

Ibi paid him back 5,000.

Ibi still owes Corey 75,000.

Corey still owes 542,000 to unnamed honest individuals!

These are the FACTS!

Anything else is false information dreamt up crooked lawyers!

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Yes, soon (three years after starting a new business) “magically found” $80,000. Honestly, it did entail significant good fortune and honestly some luck but yes.

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So as to the second part
2) did he pay Ibi $80,000. Yes but not “very soon after” at all. I wouldn’t characterize 6 years after the default and 3 years after full discharge and proceeding as “very soon after”

Do you consider 3 years very soon? Maybe you do
He couldn’t start the new business to get back in his feet until after that. And the “innocent American” you refer to seemingly is Frost Bank who foreclosed on the LOC (which is what Banks do as you well know I believe)

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Sure is a lot of accusations of lying swirling around here…

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Yes, soon (three years after starting a new business) “magically found” $80,000. Honestly, it did entail significant good fortune and honestly some luck but yes.

So Corey started another successful business in 19 that paid for these hunts? Were those assets listed in his 2020 personal bankruptcy?

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So as to the second part
2) did he pay Ibi $80,000. Yes but not “very soon after” at all. I wouldn’t characterize 6 years after the default and 3 years after full discharge and proceeding as “very soon after”

Do you consider 3 years very soon? Maybe you do
He couldn’t start the new business to get back in his feet until after that. And the “innocent American” you refer to seemingly is Frost Bank who foreclosed on the LOC (which is what Banks do as you well know I believe)

The debts were discharged November of 2020, 18 months before Corey sent his $80k.

There does appear to be some “untruths” flying around here