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He decided to not participate in lies as you decided long ago to ignore facts and make up your own…. He asked you in this thread long ago before it devolved so badly if you wanted to see the details.. you clearly did not and don’t care. You make up your own facts and victims out of whole cloth You have now forwarded and made up complete lies and called people crooks, idiots, and everything else… Like I said… you are a caricature… | |||
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I love it when crooks decide AR is not for them! Good RIDDANCE! Any of you wish to follow suit, fine by me!  | |||
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Against my better judgement, I am going to comment again. This entire thread is like a dog chasing its tail. It will never get anywhere. If Ibi indeed filed bankruptcy and the debt was discharged, then this thread becomes more than useless. In the US, a debtor must submit details on their assets & liabilities when making a bankruptcy filing. This information is given to all the creditors. The creditors have the opportunity to object to the discharge of the debts and/or the distribution of assets. There are strict Federal laws governing these matters. The fact that the bankruptcy was granted tells me that all of the creditor's concerns were addressed. They probably were not very happy at the loss. However, they got what they were going to get under applicable laws. The MIGHT have been different in other countries. Do people cheat on these matters? While I have no personal knowledge of it, I am quite confident that some do in fact lie on these filings. Doing so is a crime punishable by jail time. Did CME cheat on his filing? I have no idea. Are there crooked lawyers involved in the area of bankruptcy? I am quite confident that there are just as there are crooked people in any profession. To say that all lawyers are crooked is simply not a reasonable statement. To call bankruptcy lawyers ambulance chasers is totally wrong. They are generally not involved with personal injury maters. It is a reasonable observation that CME started these hunts in a very short period of time post-bankruptcy. Does that mean that CME did anything wrong? While the optics are not good, this does not necessarily mean that he did anything wrong. However, it is at least possible that he did. I have no idea. Does someone having a debt discharged in bankruptcy mean that they stole and/or took the money? While it might, they most certainly are not always that way. There are countless ways to incur a debt without actually taking any money. Did CME take any money? I have no idea. I have been in business for 42 years. During that time, I have certainly had bad debts even bad debts from companies that went bankrupt. Did I like it? No! Of course not. Does that mean they were all crooks? No, of course not. Horrible businessmen? Yes, at times. Victim of bad circumstances beyond their control? Yes, at times. Carry on gentlemen. | |||
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kpoy, I understand cme is your buddy, and sticking up for him. But, do you realize what you are writing? cme lost other peoples money, and you write it off as, just bad luck. That cme, learned from it. Nothing about the people who lost money. Yet, we should shed a tear when it happens to him? Who is already making big bucks from even more peoples money with the help of his gang. I had to pay my expenses when I didnt get paid as I should. Nothing for my long hours of physical labor either. I have a junior lien that amounts to nothing on what the bankrupter has not hidden away. How is it Ibi, just had bad luck, and Ibi should just learn a lesson. I have said before, no-one should get taken. But having been on the side I was put into, "poor baby" doesnt come to mind for cme. | |||
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Saeed, it has been said that bankruptcy is a legal proceeding in which you put your money in your trousers pocket and give your coat to your creditors. Just something I have heard, of course. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Lessons we learned from this stupid thread. 1. Blame an innocent man. 2. If you are a Zambian crook, you will get threatened through the US embassy, foreign office. 3. Your son will be deported from the US. 4. Your wife will be n=banned from entering the US. 5. If you are an American crook, lawyers will line up to defend you. 6. Stealing 542,000 from innocent Americans is of no consequence. 7. It is part of growing up, and being successful! 8. You get rewarded for your robbery by being allowed to book multiple African safaris. 9. Some brainless dredges of humanity will cheer you up. 10. If you raise a voice about this, you are ANTI AMERICAN! I am sure will have more to add to this. Thank you Hook! At least something positive came out of your stupid thread!  | |||
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well sum up. | |||
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well your anti crook post sums up very well the whole thread only idiots cannot read it properly ... | |||
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Deflection, distraction and obfuscation . . . doesn’t change the fact that Baldry and Ibi ripped Corey off. Keep trying though, some are easily confused. Mike | |||
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Robbery, thievery, crooked lawyers helping crooks commit bankruptcy to further their desire to hunt Africa! A thief is a thief is a thief. Regardless of nationality. Right now it is 75,000 stolen by a Zambian crook versus 542,000 stolen by an American on his way to be a successful entrepreneur! I did NOT make this up! Straight from his own mouth! Normal people, who are clueless apparently to the tricks of the trade, are wide awake and see it for what it is! Theft is theft! Right now stands at 75,000 v 542,000. The former is rubbing his hands together in Zambia. The second is laughing his head off in America. And planning his next African safaris paid for with money stolen from others! Of course, non of this would ever have happened if it wasn’t for crooked lawyers! Most of us refer to as ambulance chasers, or human vermin! | |||
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I bet Lhook7 never dreamed this stupid thread he has started will end up like this! Karma is great! Our victim turned out to be an obnoxious crook! No manners. No class. No character! And of course total lack of honesty! A perfect example of those befriending lawyers!  | |||
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Try harder Saeed. All your handwaving, shouting and histrionics will never change the fact that your buddy Baldry helped scam a fellow hunter out of $75K. Maybe if you just shout louder, wave your hands more, jump up and down and throw a tantrum . . . Mike | |||
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Try as much as you like. Scream as loud as you like. Doesn’t alter the fact that your hero is a classless, spineless, THIEF! He STOLE 542,000 from innocent Americans to go hunt Africa! Of course, ALWAYS, helped by CROOKED LAWYERS! Being called THE HUMAN VERMIN fits perfectly! | |||
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Larry Shores, a voice of reason and reasonableness. I have pleaded before without any success but try again. Soon it will be a new year, a time to start afresh. Saeed, dogcat, k pointer and Mike, All this is achieving is driving people apart who ought to be working together for the future of our embattled sport. We have enough enemies in this world without fighting each other. I doubt if anyone's mind has been changed by 46 pages of increasingly nasty diatribe. Can't we all have a New Year's Resolution to move on to positive posts? Yes! You too Saeed! Happy New Year everyone and good hunting! | |||
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not on your list the pom but i do think on that thread that Saeed was really positive but many did not want to see it ... | |||
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Yeah.....Saeed positively took up for baldry.....A crook that made sure his public clients got their hunt or a refund.... Positivity at its best! | |||
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Ok. True that this thread should never have been started! But some stupid idiot did start it. And I am not going to let anyone use AR to make baseless accusations to ruin an honest man’s business and reputation! Let us answer the simple basic question. Did anyone PAY Andrew, and not get his hunt or money back?? Andrew, you have to answer this. Anyone Andrew owes money too has to answer. Going bankrupt in America seems very easy. Still does not explain the short period of time after that a penniless bankrupt person has such a large amount of disposable cash to book multiple safaris. | |||
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While Baldry is answering questions, maybe he will answer why all his other clients got refunds but not Corey . . . and whether Corey’s money was used to refund the others. One would think that if there is not enough money to refund all, then the refunds would be prorated . . . unless of course the plan all along was to use Corey’s cash to refund everyone else and leave Corey screwed. Better one client scammed and screwed than several. This whole deal stinks and most of the odor is coming from Baldry and Ibi. Mike | |||
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There you go again! ANDREW NEVER RECEIVED A PENNY FROM COREY! Honestly trying to talk sense to a lawyer doesn’t seem to work. Here is a question for you Einstein! WHO DO THE POOR SODS WHO COREY TOOK 542,000 FROM GET IT BACK FROM? You seem to be an expert at money crimes against honest people, rewarding the criminals! Where is the 542,000 dollars?? | |||
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Maybe Baldry will share with us his email to Ibi demanding that Ibi refund everyone prorata . . . or maybe there isn’t any such email since Baldry and Ibi were in cahoots. How does Baldry sleep at night knowing that he and Ibi fucked Corey? At least these threads should help prevent some other sod from being hosed by Baldry. Mike | |||
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And how many Americans got fucked by Corey?? | |||
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None. They all had the ability to participate in the bankruptcy proceeding and make their case. Didn’t you read what Larry and others posted? Of course you didn’t. On the other hand, in this case Ibi and Baldry just decided between themselves, we are the fuckers and Corey is the fuckee. Bend over and take it Corey, thanks for giving us the money to pay off everyone else. Mike | |||
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So if you get raped by someone represented by a crooked lawyer you are still a virgin?? | |||
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So they participated and said, no, that money made my mattress to lumpy, I dont want it back? They gave it to cme willingly after it was stolen? Not what happened in my case. The court said, you cant get shit, everything he may or may not have outside the company is protected. | |||
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You are trying to reason with a lawyer! My father was the chief justice here. He always told us to NEVER TRUST A LAWYER! I never forget that. Jines here is making sure no one EVER forgets it either. Corey STOLE 542,000 dollars from trusting Americans. He declared bankruptcy with the help of a crooked lawyer so he can use that money to go on multiple African safaris! Ibi, if you are reading this, and I KNOW you are, get in touch with Corey and promise him you will pay back the 75,000 you owe him as soon as he pays the American individuals he owes 542,000 to! How about that deal? Fair is fair! And tell him he does NOT need employ any crooked lawyer either! | |||
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Zero “Individuals”. It was part of a Business shut down The only two parties who’s debt were discharged were a Bank on a LOC and one Credit Card on the business I believe. All others were paid and the debt that was discharged was almost exclusively because they kept employee salaries going when they should have shut down sooner… (about 25 employees) they tried to keep the business afloat for two years or a little more when it wasn’t working any longer. One partner insisted on keeping things running “as usual” which burned through all the cash while revenues couldn’t sustain the salaries and expenses any longer. So in the end… they burned through all their cash and savings while trying to execute a turnaround and the turnaround didn’t work out after two years. And yes, plenty of legal fees to which some will love. Mostly because of one partner in a 50/50 partnership refusing to make the hard decision and necessary changes that had to be done. So as he stated…it ended badly. | |||
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542,000 owed by Corey, which he has not paid back! He shut down his business so he does not pay them? Totally legal in a most corrupt legal system? What about morally! What about the ones he did not pay? Did they have any say in it?? You are sounding like Jines! Why are we not surprised?? 542,000 owed to people he NEVER paid back! How come he finds the extra, disposable cash to go on multiple safaris?? I don’t like crooks. I don’t like thieves. I don’t like lawyers. And I most certainly do not like to see an innocent man being accused of thievery! While the REAL thief is given a pass! | |||
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That money is not absorbed. The losses at the bank and creditcard co is passed on to everyone else who does business with the companies. Others are still victims in these schemes. | |||
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Jines and his friends don’t give a flying hoot about that! All they care about is a young crook has saved himself 542,000 so he can afford to go on multiple African safaris. After he paid the crooked lawyer his share of the loot! | |||
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. . . your positions would indicate those statements are lies.  Mike | |||
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I am curious . If a business failed during Covid , was that a scheme? | |||
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We have several businesses. Every single one had problems during the Chink Virus. We were not alone. Everyone we know had the same problems. We have real estate which is rented. Many individuals and families lost jobs during that period. They couldn’t afford the rent. We let them stay rent free. Until the market improved and they can resume paying rent. We lost a lot of money. But we gained loyal tenants! There is absolutely no reason to declare bankruptcy and then use the money owed to others for your pleasure! Corey is a perfect example of what society does not need! | |||
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With the money the gov handed out, to fake businesses and everyone else.... I'd say yeah. Did cme and partner not draw a salary, use their own savings etc to keep the business going? I had to do that when I got screwed by someone claiming bakruptcy. | |||
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Round and round we’re going. Fact is Corey took 542,000 dollars from someone. Declared bankruptcy so he does not pay them back. Then went on high value African safaris! If that is not highway robbery, nothing is! I don’t want to hear his crime was supported by some crooked lawyers. This claim doesn’t hold any water! 542,000 belong to SOMEONE! That SOMEONE is not being paid back! It seems, in America, all one has to do is find a crooked lawyer and all is sorted out, and one is free to book hunts in Zambia and Tanzania! Wow! What a life! And if that is not enough to wake you up. There lawyers on the Internet who will defend your crimes! | |||
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I’d like to know what the clients who were refunded truly think of Baldry selling them bogus hunts with no concession. I would think they would have to realize that the only reason they were refunded was because the money was stolen from Corey. Certainly wouldn’t inspire confidence with me were I in their shoes. ____________________________________________ "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchett. | |||
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When are you going to get it into your thick head Andrew took no money from anyone! It was Ibi who received part of the money Corey stole from innocent people in America! It was Ibi who refunded 5,000 dollars of the 80,000 Corey paid him! Corey can claim that 75,000 of the 542,000 he robbed has been taken by Ibi. Where is the 467,000 dollars now?? | |||
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The "logic" was surely how can we minimize the number of "squeaky wheels". It almost worked. But for Baldry coming in to slam another outfitter doing something similar to what he did to Corey, Corey might never have called Baldry and Ibi out. At least now the truth is out there for anyone but Saeed to see. Mike | |||
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sorry to tell you that more than a bank and a credit card company ... you do forget IRS, American airlines mastercard, american express and beaird harris pc for those the amounts are unknown only chase bank for $30k, frost bank over $505k with another person at least for debtor and gray reed for over $5k, synchrony financial for $k1.5 let is put it straight ... the total amount is $542,347.63 monthly income $1,000.00 monthly expenses $10,800.00 | |||
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The crime Corey committed was hidden! Until this stupid thread was started. Then all was plainly clear for everyone to see. 542,000 dollars was taken from innocent people! What happened afterwards is so sick to defy any logic! A Zambian safari. Shortly followed by a Tanzanian safari. And the poor sods who lost their 542,000 get fuck all! | |||
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