I have a question about this....maybe I missed it on the other pages.

First, sorry that you guys were defrauded out of both your money and the rifles, but I'm glad of your victory in court.

With your judgement against Hein, you are now entitled to execute a lien against his property to fulfill his debt. Getting his house would be hard, but you can certainly get his inventory of equipment and firearms, including personal firearms (not just what he was making for you).

Has your attorney discussed that option with you? Sometimes they don't, simply because of the hassle involved. In this case however, I am sure he has equipment you can sell at auction to obtain your money back.

Worth a try,

Garrett

Yes he has but that takes time & money. We'll certainly go that route eventually until such time we reach diminishing returns. jorge

Jorge
Did you pay the MAN or the COMPANY, as those are seperate legal persons.

Jeff; we paid the company, BUT he was NOT an LLC at the time so we sued HIM and his wife, meaning we can go after his personal stuff. jorge

Jorge,
That is certainly better for you!

Outstanding----Hope You Get His Last CLEAN Pair Of Undearwear!!!

A simple phone call reporting what "appears" to be gun shots in the middle of the night from his address

BINGO-warrant served

Jorge, I found something else for Hein



I sent some more photos I think you will enjoy, let me know if you got them

Jim

Got them! Thanks! jorge

Havent read this thread in a long time and was hoping jorge had his money returned by now but I guess that is not the case.
But I do wonder what happened to the Hein supporters who were proud of the fact they had rifles (with deposits) on order. Surely this guy isnt still making rifles?

quote:

Originally posted by Snowwolfe:
Havent read this thread in a long time and was hoping jorge had his money returned by now but I guess that is not the case.
But I do wonder what happened to the Hein supporters who were proud of the fact they had rifles (with deposits) on order. Surely this guy isnt still making rifles?

It constantly amazes me that some people will suck up to someone with a "name" and ignore the fact that the famous person is scum in real life. They seem to be infatuated with being a "friend" to a celebrity.

Jorge, is that you on the left?

Does anyone have Greg Hein's FFL number?

quote:

Originally posted by Abob:
Jorge, is that you on the left?

Ship's too small...jorge

May be of some interest:

http://www.atf.gov/press/facts...t-ffl-revocation.pdf

Howard.

PM sent.

Jim Wisner

Hey Jorge,

US Navy: 1

Pirates: 0 (actually they are minus 3)

Which weapon do you think they used:

M14 Sniper Rifle (7.62mm)
MK11 Mod 0 Sniper Weapon System (7.62mm)
M82A1 Heavy Sniper Rifle (.50 cal)

quote:

Originally posted by Abob:
Hey Jorge,

US Navy: 1

Pirates: 0 (actually they are minus 3)

Wow my eyes are tired, what a thread!

As a"new kid" on the site I had not stumbled upon this prior to today and completely by accident by glancing at the above post.

As, from many others I extend my sympathy to Jorge ,Howard and the others caught up in this situation.

Having been involved in shops producing ordered rifles, this should never have gotten to this point.
All work takes time,all reasonable shops should keep clients informed.
Unfortunately, bad judgment often leads people to further mistakes in judgment; especially with other peoples money.

Which ,of course, is no excuse.

It is truly a shame as experiences such as these , effect consumer confidence in even the most earnest custom shops, particularly in economic times as we see today.

There are great people out there still.

Under the Gunsmithing category I started a thread to praise the good guys, hopefully as much as this thread quite rightfully has chastised at least one of the bad guys.

quote:

Originally posted by Abob:
Hey Jorge,

US Navy: 1

Pirates: 0 (actually they are minus 3)

Which weapon do you think they used:

M14 Sniper Rifle (7.62mm)
MK11 Mod 0 Sniper Weapon System (7.62mm)
M82A1 Heavy Sniper Rifle (.50 cal)

When I had the SEAL Team on JFK they used a 300 Win Mag loaded with factory solids by Remington on a 700 action Unertl 10X scope. These boys were using night optics though.

Howard any word? jorge

This would be my choice based on: time of day, distance of shot, and desire for quick follow-up shot

MK11 Mod 0 Sniper Weapon System (7.62mm / 308) with scope & UNS LR from Knight's Arms

TO ALL CONCERNED, "ACTION" PM SENT...jorge

What's the status?

waiting n the warrant. jorge

Go Navy, Beat Pirates

Jorge, Howard & others:

Any new developments with this situation?

Good Luck.

RCG

The phone for the Hein shop has been disconnected.

No word yet fellows. We are working on it that's all I can tell you. jorge

Sorry guys but I have to ask, any news?

Progress report - or lack thereof?

quote:

Originally posted by Abob:
This would be my choice based on: time of day, distance of shot, and desire for quick follow-up shot

MK11 Mod 0 Sniper Weapon System (7.62mm / 308) with scope & UNS LR from Knight's Arms

I read today that the shots were taken at 25 yds

It's been a long time since I read this thread and just now found it again. Sorry to hear that this jerk hasn't come through for you boys and I wish you good luck in putting his sorry ass in jail. Hope to hear something positive in the very near future.

Boy, I got in early enough. Sorry for those who did not.

I sold mine to a member here to help pay for my old double.

It is making the present owner happy he's told me, 450
Dakota Caliber. Mighty capable on any and every thing.

hopefully, someone with the cash and expertise will buy the business and put them back into production. Probably have to change the name to get some credibility. Maybe we can get Peter Noreen out of retirement (or whatever) to train some new owners.

Rich
CZ fan

Jorge's old hunting blind

Jorge, Howard & others:

It has been a long time since any of you involved in this have given an update.

Many members here, myself included, have been supporting you in your efforts but there has been no follow up to AR for sometime now.

What is the status of your case against Hein and is there anything we can do to help?

Good luck.

RCG

Anyone?

Any news?

ddj

Wow, I thought this thread was long dead and I truly appreciate the concerns. There is really not much else we can do except throw more money at it and lots of time. I have the money now, but not the time.
There is a warrant out for this fucker but it is a civil warrant. I called the Lincoln County Sheriff's office and basically they told me unless they stop him for a traffic violation, he is safe. That is the way our legal system works gentlemen, it favors the perpetrator.

Basically I'm out about 6500 bucks when you include the attorney fees Howard and I have already incurred. I even called the ATF and those idiots are as screwed up as a soup sandwich. Short of me going over there and executing a "Citizen's arrest" like friggin' Gomer Pyle, we're screwed. So more money after bad? I don't know. It hounds me a lot though, I just hate to lose. Tell you what though, I'd be willing to split the money with anybody that gets this guy arrested and pays up! Thanks again gents. jorge