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As noted above, if the magazine (w/solid floorplate) is long enough, a .250 Savage cartridge in the small gun is excellent. My Zastava action was modified and a #1 contour bbl chambered for .250Sav put onto it. I did have to seat the bullets a little deeply, but it's a dream to carry and shoot...until my left-handed granddaughter shot it once and batted her eyes at her grandfather... .395 Family Member DRSS, po' boy member Political correctness is nothing but liberal enforced censorship | |||
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I know, tuff crowd   Terry -------------------------------------------- Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? | |||
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Dan , Do you have a web-site where we can visit and learn more ?????? | |||
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what is so hard about taking a G.33/40 action, shortening it 1/2 inch, and putting a straddle floorplate on it? You would have the perfect mini action. | |||
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Allen, Not yet. I am currently working on a temporary website for American Gun Company. The website address will be http://www.americangunllc.com when it is complete. Should be in a few days. I won't have any vital information or images on the website until we have the design finished, prototyped and tested but will try to keep everyone informed as to the progress Dan | |||
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opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Surface grind the billboard off the side, replace the bottom metal with a bow release straddle floorplate, put a 3-postion safety on (optional) and a new bolt handle (also optional) and you would have the nicest mini action ever made! Terry -------------------------------------------- Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? | |||
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Surface grind the billboard off the side, replace the bottom metal with a bow release straddle floorplate, put a 3-postion safety on (optional) and a new bolt handle (also optional) and you would have the nicest mini action ever made! Terry[/QUOTE] Wait till you see ours. Dan | |||
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Here's a good reference pic for a mini action.  | |||
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Ok, I will take one. Chambered for .250 and a swept back handle like you did on the little Kimber and the MiniX would make my day. | |||
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Will do, I promise! I'm just pitching the things I think would make your action a winner. I assumed you started the thread looking for idea's. I'm on your side on this  Just build the one like gunmaker pictured and you'll have a waiting list for these!  Terry -------------------------------------------- Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? | |||
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I'm really chomping at the bit to show everyone what it will look like but I have to step back and take a deep breath and just say "wait and see". I think the wait will definately be worth it. Just to mention one minor detail (can't help myself) the bolt handle will be the customers choice. Dan | |||
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After speaking with the boss we just wanted to reiterate that we will be making traditional bottom metal for the mini action with a floorplate etc. I know that there were those who did not like the removable box magazine look on the action (such as the CZ 527) so we will offer those who don't want it the more traditional look. Dan | |||
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That will sell you more receivers Dan. Butch | |||
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Hey guys, I just received images of the bottom metal configuration with the removable box magazine and I believe that each and every one of you( okay, maybe not all) will like the clean look of it. If I knew how to post an image from my computer (image is not on line) I would show you the difference. Dan | |||
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Gunamker Remind me again, what is that gorgeous action. did you do the custom barrel on that rifle? Gorgeous work. | |||
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McGowen Go to Photobucket and sign up for a FREE account. Then, upload your photos on your computer to that free account. Then, when you want to post a photo here, Post the URL of the photo on Photobucket in the Photo box (next to last icon above when you are posting) and hit the okay button. Try it and if you need help with it we can walk you through it. We want to see photos of your action!!!!!!!  | |||
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Jim- Is that the Hein short action? | |||
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It's a Harre Mini action. Bolt diameter is around .550". I did the bolt, barrel, recut bases & rear tang etc. | |||
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I somehow missed SDH's post when I read this thread earlier. He accurately said exactly what I was thinking. I have seen a lot more actions talked about than ever built. I am on the short end of one of those "real cool short action" deals even as we speak.  It is just like the keyboard cowboy ass kickers on the net. I have seen many, many, many orders of magnitude more people say "If I were you, I would go kick his ass! I meann it!" than I have ever seen actual ass kickings in real life. Hell in theory we can all be what we want to be, right!?!  OK, last edit thing i forgot to say- Jim, once again you have set a high bar for which the rest of can strive. Your work is always excellent. THat reciever looks great after you worked it over  | |||
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Who is Harre? | |||
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Not from us you haven't Dan | |||
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22WRF, Thank you I'll go there. Please remember that this is a computer image generated from the CAD files. I will only show the bottom metal at this time as I have said before we are currently in the process of fine tuning the design and parts of the design are going to be patented. Dan  | |||
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Dan- Will the McGowen Mini Action be able to handle the .22 Hornet? May the wind be in your face and the sun at your back. P. Mark Stark | |||
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Was it ever established that this mini action is going to be a controlled feed action? | |||
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Mark, I talked to Ken inquiring as to whether it could be made to work. He said that it would require a different mag box and he didn't believe our extractor would work. He suggested the 221 Fireball. Dan | |||
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22WRF, It will be a push feed. Dan | |||
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Thats too bad.  | |||
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That's a good question. I don't know if he's an idea man or a gunsmith.  Dan If you're planing on using similar rails (guard screw spacing) for hinged floor plate and drop box magazine you better make sure there's enough room for the hinge mortise between the front guard screw and the mag box. The CZ doesn't have enough room. Building a hinged plate for a CZ 527 would require something to FIX this problem. From looking at your picture it looks like it's about as short as the CZ from the mag to front screw. The release in the bow is a nice touch. A friend of mine built a hornet with a drop magazine that used the 09 style release years ago. Pretty slick way to get that custom look. If you guys are serious about getting something patented just remember that anything that has been in use for a year or more cannot be patented. I don't mean the patent won't be granted, I mean it won't hold up in court $$$. It's also not the job of the Patent Lawyer to get you a bullet proof patent. It's the job of the lawyer to MAKE MONEY. If he gets you a patent on something like say a spiral fluted barrel and these have been made and used years before then you have to PAY the patent lawyer to defend a patent that shouldn't be granted in the first place. The lawyer will make more money and the patent may ultimately be useless. Except to the lawyer. He still got paid. TWICE! If you guys come up with a novel idea and wish to patent it just remember if someone can prove that the idea had been in use for at least a year before the filing of your patent then it will do you no good. If you get a bullet proof patent it does mean that NO ONE can make the patented item EVEN FOR PERSONAL USE. This would be infringement of patent. Not sure why so many think otherwise?Hope you guys get it built. As others have said, it's one of those common pipe dreams that many like to talk about.  | |||
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Expecting a charging groundhog or antelope? | |||
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Gunmaker, We have taken a hinged type floorplate design in consideration, but I do thank you for your input, it is always welcome as there are no bad ideas. Once the design is complete on the floorplate design I'll see what I can do about posting some type of image of it here if I can. For everyone who wanted a CRF type mini I think you'll like what we have in store for you on this action. Unfortunately everyone will have to wait to see. We'll get it built. As I have said in previous posts our boss is passionate about the industry and so far really likes the mini design. We are approximately 85% done with the design now. Dan | |||
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With all due respect, that is what seems to be the problem with many of the guns being made today. The boss really likes the design. Maybe a lot of folks will too, and you will sell a lot of them. None to me though. If it were me, I would let my customers dictate the design whether I liked it or not!!  | |||
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Dan - Nobody on this site knows me from Adam. I am an innovator and inventor and I know that you must not bow to "the crowd" when you know you have a better mousetrap. Show them! Best of luck! | |||
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Will it have an integral recoil lug? | |||
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I am an avid varmint hunter and can not wait to see one of these new mini actions. I would suggest to all you people with negative comments to withhold your opinions from this forum until we have more information on the final design. Watch out for thoses charging gophers!! | |||
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Yeah, I agree that it would be pretty foolish of me to judge American Gun LLC by someone else's unfulfilled promises or premature marketing. As far as I'm concerned, Dan deserves the clean slate that he's bringing with him. It's his word that he's putting up; and that's still a serious enough thing to me not to preemptively devalue it. So as of now, I'm definitely one of the genuinely excited on-lookers (especially for that left-bolt version). | |||
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1894mk2, Yes it will have a integral recoil lug. Ian, Thank you for your comments. The one thing that I have always tried to do on here is be as up front as possible. There is absolutely no way that you can make an action that will appeal to 100% of the public. We believe that what we will be making will have widespread appeal to it once we can disclose the design. I have also been very careful not to fall into the trap of "guaranteeing" the delivery or availability of the action. Even after the design work is done there are still quite a number of steps we must go through before we release any of these to the public. We are not in this for the quick buck, we expect to be around long after I have left this world. Dan | |||
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22WRF, I respect your opinion on this subject, but I can assure you that the boss is not your average businessman. His knowledge on guns and their history is astounding. He listens to our ideas, gives a few of his own and we sit down and put them together. I can also assure you that if the design was not up to our standards the idea of it would have been scrapped long ago. Dan | |||
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Dan, it is very shrewd of you to listen to your potential customer base. The Internet offers potential for this unheard of in the past. I hope the participants here will prove experienced enough to understand at which level of the process this action is currently at: early design level. That means, no promises have been made in terms of when this product will hit the street in commercial numbers. In all the action development processes I have followed over the last 4-5 years, *something* has always managed to delay the new products in one way or the other. This action is not likely to be an exception in this respect. What matters is that it does eventually happen, and that the product is right. -mike ********************* The rifle is a noble weapon... It entices its bearer into primeval forests, into mountains and deserts untenanted by man. - Horace Kephart | |||
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Maybe this has already been posted elsewhere. McGowenRifle where can one find you contact info.........website address............pricing and purchasing and specs etc on your products? Howard Moses Lake, Washington USA hwhomes@outlook.com | |||
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