Dukxdog....Give us the name please.

When the appropriate time comes all will be revealed that can be. The ball is rolling legally to get this matter taken care of. I would like to give more information to you guys believe me. For now that is all I can post here.

I have received a PM from the person in question with threats towards me personally saying that I am slandering him. He knows who this post is about. There is no confusion there! I want the system to play out to get this matter taken care of. This is being looked into by appropriate authorities at this time. I have had some good, helpful information passed along to me by a couple guys here.

Thanks for your responses. I would also like to thank the past clients of Nixon for supporting him. He works very hard to give customers quality experiences. Safaris are expensive and no one wants to be screwed. Sometimes things will happen which leave a sour taste in your mouth from your experience. I've had it happen to me by a reputable safari operator who is well known here on AR. He pretty much just told us "tough luck". He also held my friends trophy fee deposit for several months and my friend never got an opportunity to fire a shot. If there has been a wrong done they should do as much as possible to make the situation at least a little less painful.

I have watched a few scenarios here on AR between operators and customers. Some try to make the situation better and some just say to heck with you.

I am hoping to get this matter cleaned up ASAP. I am only a liason between Nixon and clients. This is not a paid position. I try to get both parties on the same page so there is no confusion. The guys I have helped get contracts explaining most details we can think of. Nixon has trusted several guys on here to pay for their trophies when they return home. Some have had me hold trophy fee money until they return with a good report. I have found Nixon to be honest and hopes to be treated the same by others. We all look back at hunts we have taken and consider the people we hunt with as friends. Again...thanks you for your interest and support.
Bobby

A report was filed on this forum. It appears that it has been removed. I spoke to this individual at length about his hunt a week or so after he returned. Every other sentence ended in God D. He would not be the kind of guy I would like to spend alot of time with. It became quite apparent that this guy was not happy. I am not suprised that he pulled a stunt like this.

When I hunted with Nixon, I had on deposit with Bobby money for trophy fees, as well as a good bit of cash with me. After I shot an additional buffalo and decided to chase elephant, it was quickly apparent that I did not have enough money with me. Nixon kindly agreeded to let me sent him any additional money due him upon my arrival back home. This I did promptly. If I had been screwed as bad by someone as Nixon had, I doubt seriously if I had been in Nixon's shoes if I would have taken another chance on a complete stranger.

Nixon and his crew are upstanding guys and the kind of person I like dealing with

I look forward to hunting with him again.

If anyone really wants to know who it is send me a PM. saying who you think it is and I will let you know if you are correct.

quote:

Originally posted by JudgeG:
With no name revealed, I'm concerned that someone who hunted with Nixon (and paid him in full) might be confused with the alleged culprit.

I guess it's kind of hard to say who it isn't, but I had two friends who went with Nixon, paid him and sing his praises.

Maybe revealing who the fellow is would keep unwarranted suspicion from painting a couple of innocents?

Or maybe just providing names of the innocent so they don't end up being mistakenly outed.

"He hunted 13 days killing 2 Buffalo,2 Elephants,1 Leopard,2 Klipspringers, 1 Croc and 1 Giraffe."


"I spoke to this individual at length about his hunt a week or so after he returned. Every other sentence ended in God D. He would not be the kind of guy I would like to spend alot of time with. It became quite apparent that this guy was not happy."


How in the hell could you not be happy with a hunt such as described? I would like to hear the other guy's side of the story.

I know Nixon is a Black PH and I am wondering if racism has anything to do with this?

quote:

Originally posted by BigBoreCore:
"He hunted 13 days killing 2 Buffalo,2 Elephants,1 Leopard,2 Klipspringers, 1 Croc and 1 Giraffe."


"I spoke to this individual at length about his hunt a week or so after he returned. Every other sentence ended in God D. He would not be the kind of guy I would like to spend alot of time with. It became quite apparent that this guy was not happy."


How in the hell could you not be happy with a hunt such as described? I would like to hear the other guy's side of the story.
I know Nixon is a Black PH and I am wondering if racism has anything to do with this?

His side of the story is posted on AR and, in my opinion, damn sure does not justify being a liar and a thief.

EDIT: As Gatogordo said, I am 99% certain that I am talking about the correct person.

Why is the offending person being protected by remaining anonymous?????????? This thread sounds like a bunch of little girls bickering over which boy to date. Either name this bozo, or drop it.

I am also 99% sure who this person is and have read "his" side of the story on this forum. If he is who I think he is, the story is a very weak argument to justify fraud.

quote:

Originally posted by Tembo:
Why is the offending person being protected by remaining anonymous?????????? This thread sounds like a bunch of little girls bickering over which boy to date. Either name this bozo, or drop it.

I guess because there may be legal actions taking place at the moment.

I'm sure it will all come out in the end. Heck, I know who the guy is. It doesn't take a detective to figure it out, I did it in about 5 minutes this morning.

Is the report still on AR? At the risk of not being able to call myself a detective, I didn't see it, but I only scrolled through for a few minutes so I could have missed it.

quote:

Originally posted by Gatogordo:
Well, I got to this thread too late for the easy id from the posted checks but with a bit of research I am 99% sure I know who it is. I note that he did not post a hunt report if I have the right person.

I had a pretty good year last year,thanks to the stock market, made a few charitable donations including some to one of my favorites, Delta Waterfowl, but this kind of behavior really pisses me off. Struggling PH in a foreign country, doing the best he can, trusts an American hunter and gets fucked. I'm not nearly as well off as some in here but perhaps this will shake the crooked SOB off of some of his burgeoning ill gotten nest egg......

I'm offering US$5000 for the indictment AND felony conviction of said hunter for fraudulently reporting said TCs as stolen.
Reward is payable to SSG Safaris/Nixon Dzingai or anyone he designates.

This is a real deal offer, no strings, no BS except that the court process and felony conviction must be real with the conviction and resulting legal consequences in the US (I'm not crawfishing in any way, but I'm not at all sure a court conviction in Zim would have any real consequences). If anyone wants to add to it, so much the better.

All I can say is, the SOB better pay up quick or he may wish he had.

Gatogordo,

I am truly proud to call you a fellow Texan. I tip my hat to you sir.

As pointed out, to take that many gameheads it would definitely qualify as a successful hunt, but as to whether the two parties had words, arguments, issues, etc. during the hunt, only those two parties can speak with real knowledge about that. Can't imagine anyone issuing TC for pmt. and then claiming they were lost for that is just stupid and illegal in all respects.
When you factor in a situation taking place in Africa, long ways away, legal systems here and there, it makes for a real expensive, time involved case. Those in the legal profession would know for sure, but I have been advised in the past that the feds normally won't look at a case unless the dollar amount is something north of $75,000.00
Have no idea as to the total dollars involved here, but previous legal advise to me in law suits is to say as little as possible particularly in a public forum.

quote:

Originally posted by Harris:
I am also 99% sure who this person is and have read "his" side of the story on this forum. If he is who I think he is, the story is a very weak argument to justify fraud.

Agreed. It seems the notion of a reduction in an elephant trophy fee escalated to the refusal to pay the trophy fees on both elephants and then some.

To Sevenxjtb,

It appears to have been removed

Actually, it appears to have made its way to the front page of the African Hunting Forum.

SBT,

Can't find any such report.....??

quote:

Originally posted by SBT:
Actually, it appears to have made its way to the front page of the African Hunting Forum.

After I posted the question I saw that thread over there and guessed it probably hadn't resurfaced today via coincidence. Thanks.

quote:

"He hunted 13 days killing 2 Buffalo,2 Elephants,1 Leopard,2 Klipspringers, 1 Croc and 1 Giraffe."

Interesting, He failed to mention the other above "successful" parts of the hunt in his bitch post. There were also a couple of statements in his post that really jumped out at me,

quote: "The government game scout is right there, has seen everything. There isn't any hiding a dead elephant."

I guess this would be an option if possible?

quote: "I also believe the PH bears siginificant responsibility for balancing / adjusting the costs of a hunt. While few hunts these days have profit margin approaching the cost of an ele trophy fee, there is some profit margin in any hunt, or the PH wouldn't be there."

So, the ph should sacrifice his profit margin (in total if it is not as much as the trophy fee) because the "wrong" animal was shot?

quote: "My personal expectactions would be for the PH to eat the expected profit from this hunt."

I guess this answers the previous question

quote: "offer another ele hunt at true cost and make damn sure you produce the second time around. Or maybe offer a buffalo or some other available animal to the client at cost."

Damn, I guess I didn't understand how hunting worked and the risks I take when I pay my money and place my bet. Leon & Walter, ya'll better get your shit together for the next time I come hunting. I now expect ya'll to make damn sure you produce next time I show up. I will forward you both my complete species order list with measurements shortly. Maybe this is why the casinos don't let you put your money on the table after you roll the dice?

quote: "A PH who doesn't make any show of contrition after an event like the original premise, would have my eternal disrespect.

Contrition? that's a mighty big word, had to look that one up in the dictionary, here it is: contrition - sorrow for and detestation of sin with a true purpose of amendment, arising from a love of God for His own perfections (perfect contrition), or from some inferior motive, as fear of divine punishment (imperfect contrition). Damn, hope he doesn't smite Nixon.

Also, isn't this the same guy who pulled a pic of someone elses hunt report and started a new thread with the pic questioning the age or trophy status of their buff? Then later in the post put in a pic of a buff he killed with a tag hole in it's ear? I am not completely sure, but I think I smell an asshole.

quote:

Also, isn't this the same guy who pulled a pic of someone elses hunt report and started a new thread with the pic questioning the age or trophy status of their buff? Then later in the post put in a pic of a buff he killed with a tag hole in it's ear? I am not completely sure, but I think I smell an asshole.

Yep.

Well, it is vellllly intelesting to go back and read some of this guy's posts, like when he jumps all over the guy's case (rightfully so) who didn't pay his trophy fees in New Zealand. Hmmmmmmmmmm............

I'm sure there are guys out there that could collect the outstanding payment at little cost or effort.

The hunter who stiffed Nixon for more than 25K is.... IIlamapacker his real name is Bill Pfife. Lives in Salt Lake, Utah.

During this hunt, IIamapacker (Bill Pfife) took : 2 elephant, 2 buff, 1 leopard, 2 klipspringers, 1 croc and 1 giraffe.


Bill Pfife apparently claims that he should not have to pay for his trophy fees for the above animals because the PH/operator Nixon Dzangai specifically told him to shoot the wrong elephant:

His own words and post:

llamapacker
one of us
Posted 09 July 2009 04:23

Let me set the scene. You are hunting trophy bull elephant, and have been on the hot trail of three elephant for several hours in very thick bush. A leg here, there's an ear, but never a whole ele to study, let alone compare all three bulls. The elephant are feeding and moving, and it is work to stay with them and get positioned for the shot. They could become alerted to your presence at any time, and could easily head for parts unknown. Occasional glimpses of the tusks indicates one is a very good bull. Let's say you are hunting in Zim, and it appears the big bull may go 50+ pounds. Not huge by Botswana standards, but pretty big for the area in Zim.
Suddenly you are within 20 yards of a bull presenting a classic side brain shot, but you can't see the tusks as the front of his head is obscured by the bush. The PH says "I saw the tusks, its him, Shoot him NOW!" You take the shot, drop the ele cleanly, and walk up to find a bull with 15-20 pound tusks. Clearly not the right elephant. You both do see the big ele as he crashes off with the third elephant after the shot.

What can you expect from the PH in this situation? He is clearly sorry, and knows he got it wrong. On the other hand, you pulled the trigger. It's your bull, right? The government game scout is right there, has seen everything. There isn't any hiding a dead elephant. What would you expect from your PH?

Bill
Posts: 782 | Location: Salt Lake City, Utah, USA | Registered: 19 March 2002



Bill, did Nixon tell you to shoot all of the additional 8 animals and that was his mistake as well?

Bill Pfife has no integrity or character.


dale

Dale-Thank You. About time someone actually named this person instead of the pussyfooting around I have seen here. I am now waiting to hear his side of the story.

Correction:

I was just informed my previous post was inaccurate: I misspelled the name and location was in error.


It is Bill Phife. And he resides in West Point, Davis County. Utah.


I apologize to AR members for incorrect information.

dale

I'll start by saying I reckon it's unfortunate that someone has been named at this stage because whether the name is correct or not, it won't achieve anything.... but there you go.

I do however consider this a hypothetical case and my comments are all hypothetical.

There's lots of possible scenarios that could have occurred and I doubt very much indeed that any are provable either way. At the end of the day, only the guy holding the rifle can see through the scope and only he can pull the trigger. If he wasn't certain what animal he was shooting at, he should have waited until he was sure. If the animal or animals scooted in the meantime, I'm sure the PH would have simply tried again.... but all that is irrelevent.

If a client was unhappy with the hunt, the correct way to do it is to pay the bill as per the agreement and then take the issue he's unhappy about up with the safari company or game dept etc. The two issues are and should have been kept entirely separate.

I'm no lawyer, but would assume that paying travellers checks and then reporting them stolen is probably fraud under both the USA and Zimbabwe law, and in the case of Zimbabwe, there's probably a legal requirement to pay the bills before leaving the country, and if that is the case, breaking the laws of another country may/probably will also lay the person open to additional prosecution under the Lacey Act.

I can't help but feel that a sensible man would pay the fees in their entirity plus any additional expenses incurred along with an aplology for his mistake in forgetting he'd paid those T/Cs to someone and mistakenly assuming he's somehow had them stolen, and hope the safari company are good enough not to take the matter any further.

HYpothetically, reading between the lines can sometimes be a great help in life.

This sort of thing can not happen to our community. Would like to hear from this fellow and get all the facts. Hopefully those cheques were "stollen" (and termination initiated by a conscienous bank) and this guy turns out to be an honorable sportsman. We all hope. However if the facts are disingenuous, this man should be exposed.
I have hunted with Nixon. He is an honorable man and makes a contract the old fashioned way...through a handshake. A character rare in this world and not even that common in our small niche and hunting community. In this uncertain world of less honorable men and governments, men and women, like Nixon, who honor their word and accept checks and delayed payemts deserve the the utmost respect for their efforts to make our travels more enjoyable and safe.
The increased airport seaches , security , body scanners and body searches are going to make traveling with large amounts of cash potentially very dangerous. We need men like Nixon and we need to expose this scofflaw and liar for the sake of our hunting community and reputation.

I would hunt with Nixon any day. My gratitude and prayers extend to him and his family.
I hope for justice.

Wow!

Unless his contract guaranteed a elephant of a certain size, he owes the money. No doubt.

I can understand that he might be unhappy. If so, the resolution should be for him to reduce the tip and/or get another hunt with some reduction in cost. For him to lie to a major company in the US for purposes of personal gain is not only unethical but a felony as well. He defrauded the travelers check company out of the money.

I have more than once had a PH make a bad call, tell me to shoot the wrong animal etc. It happens. I sure as hell have never done what he did.

I do have a question though. There is a lot of reference to the Lacey Act. While I am certainly no expert on the Lacey Act, I though it had to do with taking game in violation of the laws of some foreign country. Am I wrong? What provision of the Lacey Act did he violate?

While I have little doubt that this jerk off violated laws in the US and in Zim, it doesn't sound like the animals were taken illegally.

Larry,

I'm no lawyer but as I understand it, (and you probably know a lot of this already) The Lacey Act has been amended many times and it now applies to no end of things, including who an American citizen or company does business with anywhere in the world and also breaking laws overseas.....and penalties are extremely harsh.

The more I find out about it, the more confusing and encompassing it seems to become!

For example, the US Govt publishes a list of people with whom it is forbidden to do business with, amongst those are everyone in Zim who has been granted seized land and pretty much everyone in the Zim govt.

Therefore, if a US citizen hunts on seized land in Zim, or breaks any laws whilst overseas he can be prosecuted under the act.

Like I say, I'm no expert but that's how I understand it.

I get an idea someone said that CB has recently written an article on it but I haven't seen that...... unfortunately!

This might be of interest:

http://video.google.com/google...833865&hl=en&fs=true

Steve:

What you are saying is pretty much what I understand. It seem to me that the animals were taken legally as they were presumably were in an authorized area, with a licensed PH that isn't on the list, quota was available, etc.

While I feel pretty confident law were violated, these were more likely financial/fraud laws as opposed to illegally taking animals.

Again, I am no scholar on the Lacey Act. I respectively question if this violates it. I am just trying to understand.

Steve, I must respectfully disagree with you about not naming this individual. We have had 2 pages of conjecture and "inside" information about who this man is. Now that it is out in the open, hopefully he will respond and do the right thing, or at least give us his side of the story. IMHO, if the author of this thread had named him from the outset, it would have possibly been resolved by now. IF he didn't want to name him at all, why drop hints that the offender was a "regular" contributor here? In that case, why bother with the post at all? Cheers, Tom

Larry,

Sorry mate, I didn't make myself clear... (Hypothetically speaking) I meant that I'm 99% sure that Zim law requires a hunter to have paid all his Govt fees etc before he leaves the country.... therefore, by leaving the country with the Govt fees unpaid, zim law has been breached. There's also the issue of defrauding the Zim Govt by claiming the T/Cs were stolen. Therefore, several Zim laws would appear to be broken and consequently, I'd guess the Lacey Act could be bought into play.

Tembo,

I was expressing a personal opinion on a hypothetical situation and you're very welcome to disgree with me anytime you like my friend!

If a Ph calls for the client to shoot and the animal doesn't measure up it is an unfortunate incident. If the PH feels compelled to offer something else to the hunter to make up the difference that is up to him but the ultimate responsibility is on the hunter. You pull the trigger,,, you are in charge. He says don't shoot and you do,, same difference. We do rely heavily on the PH for his experience and expertise but you put the lead into the air,,, you made the final decision. What if you are on a cull hunt and the PH says an animal is a cull and upon inspection he measures into trophy class. I have never had a PH try and raise the fee because he made a bad call...It is hunting,, things happen,, it is a dynamic situation that changes very quickly. The discussion on these events should occur before the hunter is in the field so hard feelings stay out of the mix.

quote:

Originally posted by shakari:
...I'm no lawyer, but would assume that paying travellers checks and then reporting them stolen is probably fraud under both the USA and Zimbabwe law, and in the case of Zimbabwe, there's probably a legal requirement to pay the bills before leaving the country...

It sure would suck to arrive in Zim in the future to learn that you are wanted under criminal charges. It would suck even more having to sit in a Zim jail while the mess gets sorted out.

Steve:

You may well be right. However, if you are, then I inadvertently violated it myself. When I returned from the SAVE last October, I wired all the trophy fees upon my return to the states. I left Zim owing about $40,000. That would be in violation of law, although I would guess it happens all the time.

Things like this are why I am trying to learn. I always equated the Lacey Act to things like shooting from a helicopter, shooting in a closed area, hunting out of season, shooting at night, etc. It seems the Act may cover lots of other things.

quote:

Originally posted by drwes:
If a Ph calls for the client to shoot and the animal doesn't measure up it is an unfortunate incident. If the PH feels compelled to offer something else to the hunter to make up the difference that is up to him but the ultimate responsibility is on the hunter. You pull the trigger,,, you are in charge. He says don't shoot and you do,, same difference. We do rely heavily on the PH for his experience and expertise but you put the lead into the air,,, you made the final decision. What if you are on a cull hunt and the PH says an animal is a cull and upon inspection he measures into trophy class. I have never had a PH try and raise the fee because he made a bad call...It is hunting,, things happen,, it is a dynamic situation that changes very quickly. The discussion on these events should occur before the hunter is in the field so hard feelings stay out of the mix.

EXACTLY

Steve, you site Zim laws with regard to payment of trophy fees. I asked Nixon how he handles those payments when i hunted with him. His policy / arrangement with me was that he would pay those gov't fees and wait for my wired payment when I returned home from the hunt. Basically, he financed my trophies fees at zero % interest. Talk about trust. Nixon is a man of Honor.

The hunter doesn't have to shoot. I don't care if he hears angels in his ear yelling, "Shoot, shoot!", when he pulls the trigger, it's his decision and his responsibility.

I hope this SOB goes to jail, or at the very least pays ALL he owes plus interest, expenses, and damages to reputation, etc. to avoid it. My offer is just as good now as when I made it, I hope he is prosecuted and convicted. Really shameful and illegal behavior.

http://forums.accuratereloadin.../1821043/m/856100969


Check out Bill Phife's (llamapacker) new home and trophy room he posted on AR March 2009.


Can you believe this guy shafted Nixon Dzingai out of 25K?

dale

I certainly haven't heard from Llamapacker, but it does make me wonder what Nixon's house looks like?

It really is amazing what can be posted on the internet, and assumed to be fact, even when being reported by third-hand or even fourth-hand parties. I appreciate some good, righteous indignation as well as the next guy, but it has been shown on this forum repeatedly that you can't believe everything that is posted. (And I'm sure some will take that advice when reading my post, as well!) I am not at liberty to provide many details, and have no intention of pretending this forum will be impartial, etc.

First, my PM to Bobby Lowe:

quote:

Originally posted by llamapacker:
Bobby Lowe,

As you well know, your post of January 6th, 2010 on the Accurate Reloading forums titled "Bad Apple and a Rotten Egg" is not an accurate representation of the facts. Purposefully making libelous statements will result in civil and/or criminal action against you personally.

You and I have never had a business or personal relationship. During your phone call to me upon my return from Zimbabwe, I made clear my dissatisfaction with the services provided by Nixon Dzingai, of SSG Safaris, and the extent of his illegal actions. I further followed up with a complaint, through my attorney, to the USFWS about SSG's potential violation of CITES. I have subsequently been advised that pursuing criminal action in Zimbabwe is unlikely to be productive.

Clearly, Nixon Dzingai is trying to manipulate you with verifiably inaccurate "facts". My conflict, up until this point, has not been with you. It is most telling that Nixon Dzingai has not initiated ANY contact with me since this trip, as he alone knows full well his actions were illegal. Additionally, the extensive investigation completed by American Express confirmed Nixon's actions were illegal.

If you persist with making libelous and defamatory statements, I will post this PM, as well as forward hard copies of your posts to my attorney to initiate action. Having previously been victimized by the unscrupulous, dishonest, and illegal actions of SSG Safaris, I would like nothing more than to have a US based party from which to recover my pound of flesh.

Sincerely,

Bill Phifer

In fact, my travelers' checks, cash, laptop computer, and digital camera were taken in camp. I realize I am not the first to suffer a loss in camp, but it does happen, as I now know. The loss of travelers' checks was reported as soon as I returned to civilization, and the checks were not properly countersigned. Clearly, the checks weren't offered in payment of trophy fees. All my payments to Nixon were made by wire transfer. Complete payment was made months ago, despite my overall unhappiness with the safari. I have NOT made payment for Dip / Pack or shipping. It is unlikely I will ever be able to take possession of these trophies, but when the investigation is complete, this issue will be revisited. I'm sorry the dip /pack company is in this position, but it is not as a result of my actions.

Likewise, Bobby's list of animals I supposedly took on this trip is inaccurate. As is evident by many prior posts on this thread, taking this number of animals on a 13 day trip is so unlikely as to almost be inconceivable. Or, of course, less than fair chase methods would have to be used. Again, for those who have trouble with the facts, the original thread does not reflect the animals I took on this hunt. Other inaccuracies are present in the original post as well.

It has also been assumed that the hypothetical post I made last year titled "PH-error...", somehow relates to this hunt. I've made clear several times in that thread, and by PM to several individuals, that this scenario does not reflect any real hunt, and definitely not my safari with SSG. Why someone would want to overlook clear statements to the contrary, and make this leap, is beyond me.

Lastly, review my PM to Bobby one more time. I have had no direct contact with Nixon since my hunt. If he has any issues, he knows how to contact me. Complaining to later clients, and getting them worked up with perceived injustice, lacks professionalism at the very least. Two different clients contacted me after their hunts with wildly different accusations. I've responded to both that they were misinformed, and being used by SSG to deflect the ongoing investigation. Bobby Lowe did not even provide me with the courtesy of an e-mail or a PM before starting this post.

I will forward this thread to my attorney for possible action. He is understandably unhappy that I am making any public statement. I am cooperating with the appropriate authorities as requested. The wheels of justice turn slowly, however, so I expect I will have nothing further to post for a long time. I'll go back to the peanut gallery now, and let the professionals do their job.

Good Hunting.

Bill