HAH

So Zola is still winning

Does that there is still a chance for me to get to London 2012 ?

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Originally posted by londonhunter:
HAH

So Zola is still winning

Does that there is still a chance for me to get to London 2012 ?

There's every chance. But only if you buy a ticket and go as a spectator.

You true self is revealing it head finally

Lighten up Ben!

I've always found a well developed sense of humour, helps get you thru the day, and aids stress management. Stress and heartaches can be killers.

I've been told that one of the great things about the game of golf, is it teaches people to take themselves less seriously, develop a sense of humour, and unwind. As it helps their game considerably and adds hugely to the enjoyment of beating that little white ball with the sticks . Perhaps you should give it a try.

Tom --- go easy on him. He has a lot on his mind ---- like remembering the brass shiny faces of his shells must be facing him when he closes his gun.

But I wonder? Does he blow the smoke out of his barrels when his 2nd shot just smashes the 1-meter bird into 1 very small and 1 large piece?

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Originally posted by DB Bill:
Tom --- go easy on him. He has a lot on his mind ---- like remembering the brass shiny faces of his shells must be facing him when he closes his gun.

But I wonder? Does he blow the smoke out of his barrels when his 2nd shot just smashes the 1-meter bird into 1 very small and 1 large piece?

Ah Bill! That would be the semi professional in him. Haven't you heard all semi professionals do that. You can't consider yourself a semi professional if you don't. It something like a semi professional code of conduct. Or perhaps its in the semi professional hand book of "How to be a Semi Professional". We would do the same if we thought ourselves semi professional. You wouldn't want to stand out from the other people that thought themselves to be semi professional , now would you? After all thinking yourself to be semi professional must have some sort of self appointed status behind it.

Which raises the question of whether you can self appoint yourself as semi profession or whether you have to be inducted into the ranks of the semi professionals at the request of another semi professional. You know, along the line of the Buff's or the left handed bricklayers.



I'm off to see what the costs are to become a semi professional, and what the benefits are . If its less than a tenner £10 (twenty bucks to you colonial types) and you get free copies of the Big Issue, I'm in. I just hope you get a badge and a uniform. The skirts (broads) all go mad for a badge and a uniform.

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Originally posted by Artemis1:

Some had more chances than the others and some were luckier. That's the way it is and it should be, unpredictable game with many jokes.
They found 5 wounded boar after we left which is good and say how tough boar can be.

They found 5 wounded boar after we left which is good and say how tough boar can be.

That can't be good!

Do we as hunters not have an ethical responsibility to our quarry? That responsibility requires a certain level of aptitude and ability to do the job right, and too ensure we are as proficient in the skills required to do that job as possible.

I suppose the question is should ethics ever be subject to commercialism?

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Originally posted by Tom Mix:

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Originally posted by Artemis1:

Some had more chances than the others and some were luckier. That's the way it is and it should be, unpredictable game with many jokes.
They found 5 wounded boar after we left which is good and say how tough boar can be.

They found 5 wounded boar after we left which is good and say how tough boar can be.

That can't be good!

Do we as hunters not have an ethical responsibility to our quarry? That responsibility requires a certain level of aptitude and ability to do the job right, and too ensure we are as proficient in the skills required to do that job as possible.

I suppose the question is should ethics ever be subject to commercialism?

We have a responsibility to our quarry and towards the nature.
Driven hunt is driven and there is no perfect shot or a situation. Sometimes hunters wound animals and that's the way it is even when they shoot from a high seat.
No one likes it but it happens. Commercialism doesn't justify that but in some areas is necessary to keep the population of game down, to bring more chash in to comunity to pay damage ect. Every wounded animal shot in the season is not wasted because we feed our dogs, bears, wolves, foxes with the meat which is not good for us. Anyway most of the boar were in the circle of 150-300m, dead soon after they've been shot so that is "good", I can't find a better word in English.
All the hunters try their best to put an animal down ASAP but it is not always posible even if the shot is placed perfectly.
I know it doesn't sound good but nothing is wasted after all.

Try to imagine shooting in some countries where they leave all the meat in deep holes in the ground. That's wasted and sad but unfortunately some do that.

tomo

dont take the bait, he just trying to get into a fight with you.

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Do we as hunters not have an ethical responsibility to our quarry

this comes from a person that advocates shooting the roe before the kidlets.

best

peter

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Originally posted by Artemis1:

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Originally posted by Tom Mix:

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Originally posted by Artemis1:

Some had more chances than the others and some were luckier. That's the way it is and it should be, unpredictable game with many jokes.
They found 5 wounded boar after we left which is good and say how tough boar can be.

They found 5 wounded boar after we left which is good and say how tough boar can be.

That can't be good!

Do we as hunters not have an ethical responsibility to our quarry? That responsibility requires a certain level of aptitude and ability to do the job right, and too ensure we are as proficient in the skills required to do that job as possible.

I suppose the question is should ethics ever be subject to commercialism?

We have a responsibility to our quarry and towards the nature.
Driven hunt is driven and there is no perfect shot or a situation. Sometimes hunters wound animals and that's the way it is even when they shoot from a high seat.
No one likes it but it happens. Commercialism doesn't justify that but in some areas is necessary to keep the population of game down, to bring more chash in to comunity to pay damage ect. Every wounded animal shot in the season is not wasted because we feed our dogs, bears, wolves, foxes with the meat which is not good for us. Anyway most of the boar were in the circle of 150-300m, dead soon after they've been shot so that is "good", I can't find a better word in English.
All the hunters try their best to put an animal down ASAP but it is not always posible even if the shot is placed perfectly.
I know it doesn't sound good but nothing is wasted after all.

Try to imagine shooting in some countries where they leave all the meat in deep holes in the ground. That's wasted and sad but unfortunately some do that.

I'm not blaming the commercial organisers. I'm questioning the ethics that allow a hunter to shoot at an animal, wound it, then allow a day or a couple of days to pass before the following up commences in order to find it. Any prime quarry meat that is allowed to spoil to a point where it can not safely enter the human food chain is ethically wasted as a means of justifying hunting. Ensuring the meat becomes pet food is a secondary consideration. As for feeding wild animals it fails to stack up as a ethical justification. Certainly so in the eyes of those hoards of anti's out there in the world of all things Veggy.

Perhaps those so keen to accept that they have shot and wounded then left. Might do well to spend their funds on increasing their proficiency, there by reducing their potentiality to wound and loose. For the good of the boar, their fellow hunters, and the world of hunting for sport.

I think that, for the first time, I will use the Ignore function

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Originally posted by wildboar:
I think that, for the first time, I will use the Ignore function

It is sad that the European forum has come to this but I think most of us are by now Wildboar.

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Tom Mix does not have the rights to view private messages.

the air just started to smell a lot cleaner

thanks don

peter

Uffffffff,

Thanks for the advice Peter.

Here's a Croatian Pig that didn't get away.
A 180gn round nose soft point from a 30-06 dropped it on the spot at fifty metres running across a path with the dogs nearly on it's tail!!!
The noise from the dogs gave me plenty of warning so it was an easy shot.
I did not have a 'Posing' picture taken at the time because I didn't think it was all that special however when I saw the size of some of the others shot later on, I wish I had as it was the biggest that day.

Ah! just realised there is no Edit feature on this site so another post is needed to explain the marking behind it's ear!!
I did that to show a friend, that I forwarded it to, where the exit wound was.
It will also explain why it died on the spot

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Originally posted by b.martins:

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Originally posted by Boghossian:
Feeding is tough and the boar are munching on rocks, that is a tough animal!

And that is after being dead. Now imagine how tough he must have been while alive! Compared to these iberian boars croatian ones are really sissies (to much grain!).


Regards

B.Martins

Ooo, nice boar for sure, great trophy. You didn't see a real Croatian trophy boar from the mountains.
Maybe I learn one day how to post some pics.

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Originally posted by Eatie:
Ah! just realised there is no Edit feature on this site so another post is needed to explain the marking behind it's ear!!
I did that to show a friend, that I forwarded it to, where the exit wound was.
It will also explain why it died on the spot

hell of a shot.
Well done

Hi Tomo; I bet that the weather is now cold enough for a good hunting in Croatia...BRRR!

Any of you guys going in January want to think of weight.
With the cold weather coming in extra warm clothing is needed and the airline has started hitting us with 'excess baggage' charges.
They have never included our guns in the allowance before but now they are.
My mate got hit with £42 excess for his rifle but of course he had his extra magazine, knife, cleaning kit and a bi-pod!! inside the gun case.
So just be aware and get your wallet ready, particularly if you have woolly pyjamas packed!!

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Originally posted by wildboar:
Hi Tomo; I bet that the weather is now cold enough for a good hunting in Croatia...BRRR!

Hi,
It is too cold now but great for hunting. The snow is deep and beautiful.
I hope we'll have some in January

It is certainly cold enough here at the moment. Although the snow has gone it is expected back by the nd of the week.
I hope it does not effect our flights.
I know I will have to leave home an extra hour earlier than normal to allow time enough to get to the airport if the weather is bad.
Not long now - yippee, can't wait to see all the lads with 'funny shaped' luggage at check-in.

Hi Guys,
Just a short update on the trip in January.
We all met up at Heathrow, having travelled from all points of the compass, in a Jolly mood due to copious swigs from a 'Laced' 7 Up bottle, thanks to Davey H
The trip to Zagreb and the usual booking in of rifles went off as normal with no major hiccups.
Before long we were at Antons Farm House, and what a difference to previous stays there.
The accomodation had been 'Made Over' each room now fully on suit, plenty of room and cupboards and all recently decorated - real Posh now
The weather was cold with a fresh wind, no snow but still reasonable weather to expect good results from the Forest.
I am not a journalist so will now skip the trivia and go straight in to the good stuff.
There were pigs all over the place but, due to the mild weather, the dogs and beaters had trouble getting them to where we wanted them.
The next day it snowed and we had snow for the rest of the trip.
So we had pigs further away than normal, now we had snow and all this was a combination which made it even more difficult for the dogs and beaters. I was glad I was not a beater!!!
So a brief resume' was that over the five days we had plenty of shooting and managed, with difficulty and skill from the guns, to account for twenty one Boar of varying sizes and there may have been a few others recovered from the Forest later.
All in all, we had a fantastic time, I think I speak for all members of the group, and on the last night in Croatia, the trip rounded off with a nice Hotel to make it easier for us to get to the airport the following day.
Roll on next year and if there is any chance of getting an invite then, I'll jump in with both feet.

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So a brief resume' was that over the five days we had plenty of shooting and managed, with difficulty and skill from the guns, to account for twenty one Boar of varying sizes and there may have been a few others recovered from the Forest later.
All in all, we had a fantastic

How many shooters in your group??

Michael,
There should have been fourteen of us but myself and one or two others took it in turns to suffer from 'Grouse' illness so there was not a full team out every day and the last day was not a full day either as we had a 'celebration' dinner before we left for Zagreb.
This was not just a Driven Boar Trip but a bit of a Holiday with lots of Banter and jokes flying between the serious times.
I am from 'Darn Sarf' and by the end of the trip I had nearly learnt all of the words to Flower of Scotland

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Originally posted by Eatie:
Michael,
There should have been fourteen of us but myself and one or two others took it in turns to suffer from 'Grouse' illness so there was not a full team out every day and the last day was not a full day either as we had a 'celebration' dinner before we left for Zagreb.
This was not just a Driven Boar Trip but a bit of a Holiday with lots of Banter and jokes flying between the serious times.
I am from 'Darn Sarf' and by the end of the trip I had nearly learnt all of the words to Flower of Scotland

Great report Eatie,

It was a great fun hunting with you again.
After you I had another group on the last weekend in Jan with good result.
I spent since than only one week in the UK and few days ago I finished last feb trip on trophy boar.
-5 C, snow 60cm and plenty of boar. In one evening we counted 96 from 6 high seats. The ground is South from Zagreb in the mountains of Velebit and we took a few good trophies. Now I'm working on trip in March.

I hope you are well and in good shape like you were in January

Hi Tomo

Are we going again next year please adivce best time and 100 hundred years

Have you got my trophy was it measured ?

A quick question concerning ammunition for wild boar driven shoots.

How are people managing to obtain expanding ammunition on their UK licences for wild boar shooting?

From what I have experienced myself, and from talking with others, it is difficult to obtain permission for soft tip - expanding heads in bullet diameters larger than ".300".

Accepting the 9.3mm is the 'standard' for driven wild boar, how are people obtaining permission? I was told you cannot have expanding heads for shooting abroad, overseas.

If you do not have permission to use that calibre of rifle for deer shooting in the UK, then the authorities will not allow you to have expanding ammunition in your possession in the UK. But they may still allow you to have solids, FMJ, to shoot targets with at a target shooting club.

To get arond this, Africa bound hunters adopt the following dance I am told. A 'gun dealer' / licenced individual has to hand the expanding ammunition to you, with the pair of you standing on other sides of the departures area barrier.

Hi I have permission to hold expanding ammo for my 375 as it is conditioned for use on deer in the UK. I understand that is the only way to get permission to hold expanding heads in the UK - to show that you can/will use it for deer/boar within the UK.

Unfortunately, as you know, some forces are adamant that these 9.3/375 calibers are not appropriate for shooting in the UK.

I use a.444 (.430")and use expanding ammo with it as i have it for deer and for wild boar shooting here in the UK it depends on your local police force as to what they make up or what they want you to have.my local police force do not have a problem with larger calliber rifles if you can show a good reason for there use then you can have one .

Bob.

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Originally posted by londonhunter:
Hi Tomo

Are we going again next year please adivce best time and 100 hundred years

Have you got my trophy was it measured ?

We are going again in November
I'll go in March for 7 days to check the grounds and to give you more details about November hunts.
Your trophy was 16cm long and 2.5cm wide.
Bog's 17cm long and 2.5cm wide

For 500 years

Hi Tommo
Can you stick the tusks into the post to us - or I can pick them up from you in Surrey....

You better still have my shooting seat buddy!

G

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Originally posted by Boghossian:
Hi Tommo
Can you stick the tusks into the post to us - or I can pick them up from you in Surrey....

You better still have my shooting seat buddy!

G

Shooting seat Haldane swapped for two boxes of beer

When I bring them I'll try to deliver it to both of you somewhere in London

Tomo

Put it on a chain and sling it around the neck of the angriest pig for me in Croatia

I will go and collect it personally in the coming season.

Remember one hundread years boys ...........

....and the dead boars running!

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Originally posted by wildboar:
....and the dead boars running!

This one is teh best hahahha
I realised this May that all the boar are scared of AR member group. One they survived are asking me to avoid this "dangerous" group

They must care a lot,I think that we are ready to repeat the experience

You know I'm always game for round 2!

18.-22.Nov is the round 2.
Let's start with this group than.