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Originally posted by Bitterroot:
“Need” has nothing to do with it.

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Originally posted by Bitterroot:
“Need” has nothing to do with it.

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you do not

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
Lets keep this simple, No you do not!

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Originally posted by Bitterroot:

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you do not

Geez, you’re no fun. Sound like my wife

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Originally posted by Todd Williams:

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
Lets keep this simple, No you do not!

Let's make it even simpler.

If you have to ask the question, YES, you need it!

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
Lets keep this simple, No you do not!

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Originally posted by gunslinger55:
After watching how effective my 458 Lott was on buffalo do I really need my .505? Or even a 577 or 600? Please talk me out of it...Please. But I think I do...Just because...

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Originally posted by Jiri:
I never needed anything like that. But I always wanted it.

Since I have one and fired it for the first time, I need it ;-)

Will I hunt anything "large enough to match it's power"? I don't think so. Is it fun? Absolutely!

The same with .500 S&W revolver.

Jiri

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Originally posted by Paul H:
I know I'll never kill enough game to determine if a .458-.475" 480-500 gr bullet at 2150-2300 fps out the muzzle lacks anything against the biggest game to be hunted. That said I wanted to know what I could handle, and thought a very large rifle would be appealing. I got as far as my starting loads with my 500 Jeffrey which were a 600 gr cast bullet leaving the muzzle at 2200 fps. I learned I don't need anything more than that, and honestly would think a good 416 is about as good as it gets in power and shootability.

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Originally posted by boom stick:
Have you shot one?
If you did, you might have your answer.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Now some men like a fishin'
But some men like the fowlin'
Some men like to hear,
To hear the cannonball roarin'
Me, I like sleepin',
'Specially in my Molly's chamber


Need? Sirrah, you don't need anything bigger or newer than a 7x57, as have been proven ....

Want? if it doesn't make you sell a kidney, want is fun!

I will tell you, the "normal man" is done with a 458 lott, and truth be told, most can't handle even that much ....

Now, that you have a nice heavy medium, a 577 is yet another journey into maddess,

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Originally posted by Matthewx:
I suggest two each in 577, 600, and 700. You will probably need equivalent bolt rifles as well.

Matthew

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Originally posted by Karl:
partly you do just because some men are chosen naturally to have ultra large bores and you owe it to others to be that example of manliness/masochism. Also for those near misses of .11" from the animals brain with a 470 whereas the 577 would have scored a hit.

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Originally posted by gunslinger55:
I stood side by side with a hunter shooting a 375 on buffalo. While I love my .375’s I would disagree on this point with large dangerous game

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Originally posted by cal pappas:
Gunslinger55:
May 4 (first Saturday in May) 2019 is the Alaska double rifle shoot. Join us if you can. There will be doubles from .350 to .600 and black powder doubles from .360 to 4-bore. Shoot them all if you wish and make your decison then. If you confirm early, stay at my place as my loft is open (to save on hotel charges).
Cal

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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:

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Originally posted by gunslinger55:
I stood side by side with a hunter shooting a 375 on buffalo. While I love my .375’s I would disagree on this point with large dangerous game

I was the guy with the .375; it was chambered for .375 JRS but I shot factory H&H, so my muzzle velocity was lower (and I noticed it recoiled less than my SAKO .375).

I was duly impressed with Gunslingers .458 Lott. He took shots I didn't feel comfortable taking (like Texas heart shots) and he dumped them.

I think the .375 is kind of like a bigger .30-06; great if you have one gun, but not the best in all situations.

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Originally posted by Ray B:
There are NEEDS and then there are WANTS.

If people only got/built/made what was NEEDED we'd still be traveling on foot on a planet with a carrying capacity of about 1 million humans.

But when we are allowed to achieve our wants, all things are possible.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
Anyone is going to shoot better with a cartridge that has less recoil.No point in making things difficult on yourself for nothing.Large bones and big muscles do not add brain power.Use what has been proven to get the job done and be done with it.A 458 Lott class cartridge is enough and if you find that too much use a muzzle break.