anyone heard anything about this?...true???

Supposedly it works thru the stndard length magnum actions.

Seeing the great need for a new cartidge in .375", I surely hope so. All of the current .375's are really inadequate for most needs. Hopefully this new cartidge will be able to launch 300gr bullets over 3800fps. THAT'S what we really need!!

There has long been a certain amount of demand for a 375 cartrdige that will duplicate the performance of the H&H and work thru a standard length action........as evidenced by the 375 Taylor and other wildcats

If they make them in the standard M-77 , not the big Rigby size action , I think it would sell..........maybe not to the extent of a small bore magnum , but maybe enough to make it a viable commercial offering.........

Ok... Maybe I'm not up to speed on action length versus sales, but what would be the advantage? More rifle platforms to build on? I personally don't think a long action 375 lacks anything, but then again, that's just my perspective.

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Originally posted by ManCannon:
Ok... Maybe I'm not up to speed on action length versus sales, but what would be the advantage? More rifle platforms to build on? I personally don't think a long action 375 lacks anything, but then again, that's just my perspective.

IMO there are a large number of .458 win mag length actions to build from and a veryfew .375 H&H length actions to build from.

Also a standard length .375 would fit into a VZ-24 nicely as well where the .
375 H&H requires a lot of cutting and in places folks would rather not.

There are a couple wildcats based on this interest....but for someone to legitimize this with head stamped and reasonably priced brass does make sense to me.

Personally, I just don't like wildcats and this (whatever it is) seems a good option for a factory round.

From what I'm hearing it's more of a .375 RUM short or the .375 Vincent short.....but is still in the rumor mill.

I think it would work if they put it in a standard M77 with a bit heavier barrel, nicer wood, barrel band swivel and front sight, keep the price around $1000-$1200 MSRP. Then make it available in synthetic/stainless for the Alaskan folks as well, make either one weigh 8.75 pounds, the RSM is too heavy for a .375, but OK in .416 and Lott.

New name for the 375 Taylor....
Very welcome idea.
L

You know when a wildcat is good when a factory starts to make it.

Now who will make the .323 PH for me?

170 PH ??

220 PH

240 PH

264 PH

270 Ph

300 PH

323 PH

338 PH.

358 PH

375 PH

400 PH

416 PH

404 PH

458 PH

470 PH

500 PH ??

too bad ruger didn't pick up the 376 steyr

I think it will sell, especially if they price it in the $500 range. Really how many 375 H&H's can you find in that price range? This is the only advantage I see to it. It will be affordable. Keep the fancy wood, etc for the RSM... where it should be. If I wanted to spend $1000-1200 on a rifle I'd buy the real deal. IMO its kind of like the guys that all want a double rifle, can't afford it, but would settle for a Spartan... in 45-70.

With the current demise of the Win M70, a Ruger all weather in std length 375 would be very popular in this part of the world.

Rumor has it the 375 Ruger is a 300 Win mag necked up.

I can't imagine it ever competing with the 375 H&H, which has worked so well, for so long.

They won't make it in left handed and I have a 375 H&H so I'm not really interested.

Now if they offer a left handed 416 or 423 that will push a 400 grain bullet at 2200 fps, from a standard sized action, that's a horse of a different color.

Hmmmm, Ruger & Hornady have been on a roll. Never know what is coming up. With elk being reintroduced in areas in the USA and populations growing at steady rates in Canada, there could be cause to "squeeze" another round in there.

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Originally posted by Paul H:
With the current demise of the Win M70, a Ruger all weather in std length 375 would be very popular in this part of the world.

Rumor has it the 375 Ruger is a 300 Win mag necked up.

I can't imagine it ever competing with the 375 H&H, which has worked so well, for so long.

.375 Taylor

or

.375 Epstein, as Paul has heard?

Get that grapevine to my ear Percy!

According to The Grapevine, the .375 Ruger might be an unique new case with rim and head diameter of .532" but otherwise similar to the .375/.338 WinMag.

Not just an H&H case with the belt and rim turned down.

Perfect for the rebarreling of a 7mm RemMag Ruger M77MKII.

I just saw a new episode of Surefire's Tracks Across Africa. Steve Hornady was buffalo hunting with Boddington. They had a sit down to disuss the new 375 Ruger and 450/400.

I'm new to this custom rifle business, but could this 375 Ruger be an option for my dad's Pre 64 30-06 M70?

Brian

Oops, I see another thread in the African Hunting Forum!

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Originally posted by btglfer:
I'm new to this custom rifle business, but could this 375 Ruger be an option for my dad's Pre 64 30-06 M70?

Brian

Oops, I see another thread in the African Hunting Forum!

Possibly, but we need to know what it is first.

i think it is an awesome idea to make a 375 dakotaish round from a major producer of guns on soon to be cheap brass. it will be interesting to see how close it comes to the 35 newton or 9,3x64. it will sell like hotcakes. who is going to make a 35, 9,3, 416 and 423???

i just realized ruger just gave this board about 100,000 of future pissing moaning bragging no its not, yes it is posts

the 375 ruger will suck a lot of oxygen out of the
325 wsm 9,3x66, 9,3x62, 338 win, 376 steyr and 358 norma market. smart move!

the stainless synthetic lightweight will be a good seller

In there stainless MK11 it will sell great, I want one !!

The rumor seems to have substance but the folks at Hornady I know are being tight lipped about it.

For those of you that are thinking Ruger 77.....I'm thinking VZ-24 and a heck of a lot of Win M-70 classics in the 300-338-458 class.

Sounds a lot like .375AR to me.
We know that works!

Strong leaks suggest that it's a 300 win mag case without the belt necked to .375

Or in other words.....a beltless .375 Taylor.


I'll order a reamer as soon as this is confirmed. I like it.

Fantastic! I've always liked the Steyr but odd bolt head and its intermediate length kept me from doing it. I was going to do a Taylor but this sounds like a better case. Do you think they'le extend the neck, the 300's already short for caliber...

I mentioned before that I made a wildcat .375 by necking up the 9.3X64 Brenneke (no other changes), that I shoot out of my Mauser.

There is nothing special about it, except that it has no belt (which some of us don't like), and that it duplicates factory 375 H&H ballistics with no effort (i.e. pressures are in the very safe range).

I think that the proposed cartridge by Hornady sounds like a winner, and would be useful (and potentially less expensive) for those of us who like the 375 for larger game.
It sure would make semi-custom rifles for it cheaper.

I wonder what case they will base it on?
My 9.3X64 cases still have space for more powder (RL-15) when the 300 Nosler Partitions hit 2400 fps.

Garrett

so if rumor holds true...we have a 375 epstein without a belt and no rebate rim?

Sounds good, but then the neck is too long.

I really hope it's a 9.5x64, oh please let it be true!

looking at this recon photo it seems to have an exact cal length neck and possibly more blown out at the shoulder. probably a 5% capacity increase over the epstein

Intriguing indeed! AND NO F*****G BELT!!!! I like it!! I can't find any press releases though.
Thanks for the photo boom!

Is it your understanding that brass will measure 2.62 like the 300? If so, the neck must be set back a bit to allow for neck length. If this brass is relatively cheap (as Hornady brass for new cartridges seems to be) its going to form the basis for affordable wildcats--similar to the Dakota line but with brass at less than $1.25 per. This is especially true should they be made to easily clean up standard belted magnum chambers. I'm going to start putting the beer money in a jar...

the epstein has a capacity of 86 grains of water so lets say the 2.5" version will be about the same but if it is 2.62 it could be closer to 90 grains. anyone know the capacity of the 375 dakota?

the 380 howell boasts 300gr@ 2500 fps from a 82.5 grains of water capacity



this pic is of the 375 whelen and 380 howell

without the belt it will be easier for the smith to get an extra in the mag dont you think?

Capasity of the .375 Dakota is 98 grs of water.


If the new one is .532 at rim and base, mag. capasity should be the same as the belted ones....

I suspect that the Ruger would have slightly less capacity than the Dakota (at .545) but not much. I agree mag capacity will be similar to belted mags, just a better designed case. Feeding should be a piece of cake.

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Originally posted by Bent Fossdal:
Capasity of the .375 Dakota is 98 grs of water.


If the new one is .532 at rim and base, mag. capasity should be the same as the belted ones....

Not quite as the belted are .511 at the body.

Elk addled as I am, imagine...
235g TSX at 2900
Stainless #3 contour, Kevlar synth., 2-7 Leup., all up at 7#.

Flat thumper done on the cheap.

so 300@2500 fps with above average preasure but not high, good feeding, no belt, std 06 action. me likes

so 350 gr woodleighs@ 2400 sounds about right...

a little smithing and 4 down

i think this is as close to the holy grail of 375 h+h clones as we can expect from a major manufacturer. let everyone rejoice!

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Originally posted by .366torque:

quote:

Originally posted by Bent Fossdal:
If the new one is .532 at rim and base, mag. capasity should be the same as the belted ones....

..... as the belted are .511 at the body.

Exactly, which means that the new one will have the same dia. at base, as the dia. on belt on the belted ones. If anything, a wider shoulder, but mag. capasity should still be the same.

what about price???

the 300 win mag msrp runs $695 so is there any reason to think they would charge more?

Hornady seems to be bringing us cartridges we can use but winchester and Remington bring us WSSMs and SAUMs.

This one gets my approval real fast.