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I will be starting the 2 Bore Jones Underlever Black Powder Cartridge Side by Side Rifle in a few weeks....I have named this one "The Double Deuce" and I will be including video as well as written and photo documentation of this build. Due to the length and complexity of this project I won't be posting individual updates on each forum I am a member of like I have done for my other documented builds. I have set up a Blog at Wordpress and will only be updating that blog. When I update the blog I will post in this thread that I have added a new update. People will be welcome to ask me questions or make comments in this thread and I will try to answer them as I have time. Here is the link to my WordPress blog: http://stolzergunsmithing.wordpress.com/ You can also find the link on the home page of my business website. Thanks for your understanding. Colin | ||
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The next few months will be quite interesting! Thanks for the link and heads up. Too bad it's a lefty I was hoping to get to be the test guy for the double mule kick cannon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...youtube_gdata_player 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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I think the appropriate matching side arm for this shoulder cannon should be a double break action howdah pistol chambered in 45-70 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Or you could just go with the 2 Bore Muzzleloading pistol as a back-up... One of these days I'll find the time to finish that "Little Hand Cannon". Colin | |||
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I'm guessing a smooth bore? Next up the 2 bore revolver That would look more like a semi auto grenade launcher. Damn that would be the most powerful pistol ever Round balls at 900 FPS? Have to calculate the recoil on that one. Would need to know weight of bullet, powder charge and pistol weight. Might want to add a bayonet to help with muzzle rise. Stick the animal with the bayonet then pull the trigger. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Actually that is a left over chunk of barrel from a 2 Bore Muzzleloader I built a while back, and it's rifled. A Patched round ball for that weighs about 3350 grains cast in wheel weights. The pistol weighs about 7 pounds right now and that won't change much. The pistol has a recessed powder chamber on it, that holds a minimum of 100 grains, but you could theoretically load it as heavy as a rifle load. I've never gone past 500grs FFg with one of the rifles. The best possible way to deal with muzzle rise on that pistol is to never load it or fire it. Just throw it at the Elephant and run away. Colin | |||
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Might want to make it so you can screw in a smooth bore barrel extension and shoulder stock attachment. Aluminum pistol grip?End cap to hide the threads. Use with or without the barrel extension but shoulder stock is a must. Could just be considered a three part take down 2 bore 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Assuming 900 fps... Just using the 7lb pistol. 6,000 FPE Recoil Energy of 456 foot pounds, and Recoil Velocity of 65 fps. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Actually I have no intention of every shooting it with a real charge in it. I only started building it because I had the pieces laying around. It's mostly for the "mine is bigger than yours" crowd. What you do is take it to the range and leave it in the truck/car...then when the inevitable discussion of mine is bigger gets going you go get it and offer to let them prove how manly they are... It's pretty much a conversation stopper. Colin | |||
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Yeah I guessed it would be a functional but awesome conversation piece. Would make a great movie prop too! 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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I can't wait to see the progress of both the "Double Deuce" and the "Backup". Thanks for taking the time to document the build(s). todd Blessed; not lucky | |||
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This is gonna be good. Thanks for sharing the build with us Colin. I think the back up should go with the double duece. Its only fitting!! | |||
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The pistol could be fired. Use it like a blunderbus. Stuff it with rocks or glass or chain or lead shot like they did in the old days. Just make custom cups and wads. Shoot two ounces of OO buck shot out of it. Should have a matching pair. Would be good for pirates to board ships. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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An Update to the project has been added. Here's the link to the post: http://stolzergunsmithing.word...uce%e2%80%9d-part-2/ Link to the whole blog: http://stolzergunsmithing.wordpress.com/ Enjoy Colin | |||
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An Update to the project has been added. Here's the link to the post: http://stolzergunsmithing.word...table-machined-away/ Link to the whole blog: http://stolzergunsmithing.wordpress.com/ Enjoy Colin | |||
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This will truly be epic and great. Can you make a right hand stock too so the rest of us can shoot this. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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An Update to the project has been added. Here's the link to the post: http://stolzergunsmithing.word...ing-underlever-hole/ Link to the whole blog: http://stolzergunsmithing.wordpress.com/ Enjoy Colin | |||
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thanks for the updates Colin. Used to be bigdoggy700 with 929 posts . Originally registered as bigdoggy 700 in July 2006. | |||
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I like the new user name, bigdoggy2bore, it's like an upgrade. I got a little more done today, here's the links to the new update. Here's the link to the post: http://stolzergunsmithing.word...s-in-the-watertable/ Link to the whole blog: http://stolzergunsmithing.wordpress.com/ Enjoy Colin | |||
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That rifle in a Bass boat would be a Pocket Battleship in most navies. Man that is big... Cheers, John Give me COFFEE and nobody gets hurt | |||
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Colin, the rifle is going to be so COOL!! It might make you famous. Really enjoying the videos, thanks! Used to be bigdoggy700 with 929 posts . Originally registered as bigdoggy 700 in July 2006. | |||
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When will it come to the next Big Bore/DRSS shoot 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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I got a little more done the last couple days, here's the links to the new update. Here's the link to the post: http://stolzergunsmithing.word...le-and-lower-action/ Link to the whole blog: http://stolzergunsmithing.wordpress.com/ Enjoy Colin | |||
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This will probably be the only update for this week, here's the links to the new update. Here's the link to the post: http://stolzergunsmithing.word...lling-the-monoblock/ Link to the whole blog: http://stolzergunsmithing.wordpress.com/ Enjoy Colin | |||
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wow! opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Thanks for sharing Colin. I enjoy your work. I have wondered if you hand an original action from Birmingham like what is on my Manton you could duplicate it?. DRSS: HQ Scandinavia. Chapters in Sweden & Norway | |||
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How can you determine accuracy when the bullet diameter is equal to 1 MOA lol I guess if you are shooting clover leaf groups with a 2 bore thats not much bragging rights Looks like you are making great progress. 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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Probably, of course most things are possible with money and time. | |||
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Actually a cloverleaf is a pretty good bragging right...most guys can't stand two shots in a row, putting three in a cloverleaf from a rifle with this much recoil is pretty impressive by most standards. | |||
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Boring is really boring, here's the update so far this week.... Here's the link to the post: http://stolzergunsmithing.word...ading-the-monoblock/ Link to the whole blog: http://stolzergunsmithing.wordpress.com/ Enjoy Colin | |||
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I got a little bit of draw filing done, this is the last update for this week: Here's the link to the post: http://stolzergunsmithing.word...able-and-breechface/ Link to the whole blog: http://stolzergunsmithing.wordpress.com/ Enjoy Colin | |||
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DAMMMMM this is a very strong pistol!!!! Member in Shooting Game "Tiro distretto Moesa" www.tirodicaccia.com and webmaster from www.scgroven.jimdo.com webmaster Hunting website www.mesolcina-caccia.com and fly fishing website www.mesolcinapam.jimdo.com on FB find Al Venza. | |||
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Colin, I find all the steps you are going through during the build quite interesting. Just keep em coming. Used to be bigdoggy700 with 929 posts . Originally registered as bigdoggy 700 in July 2006. | |||
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+1 577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375 *we band of 45-70ers* (Founder) Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder) | |||
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This should have been posted last week but I wasn't feeling well and didn't get as much done as I had wanted to. Here's the link to the post: http://stolzergunsmithing.word...lumps-and-hinge-pin/ Link to the whole blog: http://stolzergunsmithing.wordpress.com/ Enjoy Colin | |||
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anything new for this week? Used to be bigdoggy700 with 929 posts . Originally registered as bigdoggy 700 in July 2006. | |||
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Not enough video to make it worth posting...the holiday cut into my work. We had family come over for Thanksgiving and my wife had to work nights Mon, Tue, Wed...so my son and I ended up doing all the house work Wednesday so that the place was ready for company Thursday and Friday. Some time this coming week I should have enough new footage to make a new video worth posting. Colin | |||
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Last weeks work before Thanksgiving and today's work. Here's the link to the post: http://stolzergunsmithing.word...ius-and-breech-radi/ Link to the whole blog: http://stolzergunsmithing.wordpress.com/ Enjoy Colin | |||
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thanks for sharing.. this is great stuff opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Glad you're enjoying it. I don't know that it's all that great...it's just the steps involved in building a double rifle. Lots of other gunsmiths around the world are more experienced at it than I am. Colin | |||
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