I will be starting the 2 Bore Jones Underlever Black Powder Cartridge Side by Side Rifle in a few weeks....I have named this one "The Double Deuce" and I will be including video as well as written and photo documentation of this build.
Due to the length and complexity of this project I won't be posting individual updates on each forum I am a member of like I have done for my other documented builds. I have set up a Blog at Wordpress and will only be updating that blog. When I update the blog I will post in this thread that I have added a new update.

People will be welcome to ask me questions or make comments in this thread and I will try to answer them as I have time.

Here is the link to my WordPress blog:
http://stolzergunsmithing.wordpress.com/

You can also find the link on the home page of my business website.

Thanks for your understanding.

Colin

The next few months will be quite interesting!
Thanks for the link and heads up.
Too bad it's a lefty
I was hoping to get to be the test guy for the double mule kick cannon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...youtube_gdata_player

I think the appropriate matching side arm for this shoulder cannon should be a double break action howdah pistol chambered in 45-70

Or you could just go with the 2 Bore Muzzleloading pistol as a back-up...


One of these days I'll find the time to finish that "Little Hand Cannon".

Colin

I'm guessing a smooth bore?
Next up the 2 bore revolver
That would look more like a semi auto grenade launcher.
Damn that would be the most powerful pistol ever
Round balls at 900 FPS? Have to calculate the recoil on that one. Would need to know weight of bullet, powder charge and pistol weight.
Might want to add a bayonet to help with muzzle rise. Stick the animal with the bayonet then pull the trigger.

Actually that is a left over chunk of barrel from a 2 Bore Muzzleloader I built a while back, and it's rifled. A Patched round ball for that weighs about 3350 grains cast in wheel weights. The pistol weighs about 7 pounds right now and that won't change much. The pistol has a recessed powder chamber on it, that holds a minimum of 100 grains, but you could theoretically load it as heavy as a rifle load. I've never gone past 500grs FFg with one of the rifles.

The best possible way to deal with muzzle rise on that pistol is to never load it or fire it. Just throw it at the Elephant and run away.

Colin

Might want to make it so you can screw in a smooth bore barrel extension and shoulder stock attachment. Aluminum pistol grip?End cap to hide the threads. Use with or without the barrel extension but shoulder stock is a must. Could just be considered a three part take down 2 bore

Assuming 900 fps... Just using the 7lb pistol.
6,000 FPE
Recoil Energy of 456 foot pounds, and Recoil Velocity of 65 fps.

Actually I have no intention of every shooting it with a real charge in it. I only started building it because I had the pieces laying around. It's mostly for the "mine is bigger than yours" crowd. What you do is take it to the range and leave it in the truck/car...then when the inevitable discussion of mine is bigger gets going you go get it and offer to let them prove how manly they are...

It's pretty much a conversation stopper.

Colin

Yeah I guessed it would be a functional but awesome conversation piece. Would make a great movie prop too!

I can't wait to see the progress of both the "Double Deuce" and the "Backup".
Thanks for taking the time to document the build(s).

todd

This is gonna be good. Thanks for sharing the build with us Colin. I think the back up should go with the double duece. Its only fitting!!

The pistol could be fired.
Use it like a blunderbus.
Stuff it with rocks or glass or chain or lead shot like they did in the old days. Just make custom cups and wads. Shoot two ounces of OO buck shot out of it. Should have a matching pair. Would be good for pirates to board ships.

An Update to the project has been added.

Here's the link to the post:
http://stolzergunsmithing.word...uce%e2%80%9d-part-2/

Link to the whole blog:
http://stolzergunsmithing.wordpress.com/

Enjoy

Colin

An Update to the project has been added.

Here's the link to the post:
http://stolzergunsmithing.word...table-machined-away/

Link to the whole blog:
http://stolzergunsmithing.wordpress.com/

Enjoy

Colin

This will truly be epic and great.
Can you make a right hand stock too so the rest of us can shoot this.

An Update to the project has been added.

Here's the link to the post:
http://stolzergunsmithing.word...ing-underlever-hole/

Link to the whole blog:
http://stolzergunsmithing.wordpress.com/

Enjoy

Colin

thanks for the updates Colin.

I like the new user name, bigdoggy2bore, it's like an upgrade.

I got a little more done today, here's the links to the new update.

Here's the link to the post:
http://stolzergunsmithing.word...s-in-the-watertable/

Link to the whole blog:
http://stolzergunsmithing.wordpress.com/

Enjoy

Colin

That rifle in a Bass boat would be a Pocket Battleship in most navies.
Man that is big...

Cheers, John

Colin, the rifle is going to be so COOL!! It might make you famous. Really enjoying the videos, thanks!

When will it come to the next Big Bore/DRSS shoot

I got a little more done the last couple days, here's the links to the new update.

Here's the link to the post:
http://stolzergunsmithing.word...le-and-lower-action/

Link to the whole blog:
http://stolzergunsmithing.wordpress.com/

Enjoy

Colin

This will probably be the only update for this week, here's the links to the new update.

Here's the link to the post:
http://stolzergunsmithing.word...lling-the-monoblock/

Link to the whole blog:
http://stolzergunsmithing.wordpress.com/

Enjoy

Colin

wow!

Thanks for sharing Colin. I enjoy your work.

I have wondered if you hand an original action from Birmingham like what is on my Manton you could duplicate it?.

How can you determine accuracy when the bullet diameter is equal to 1 MOA lol
I guess if you are shooting clover leaf groups with a 2 bore thats not much bragging rights
Looks like you are making great progress.

quote:

Originally posted by jens poulsen:
I have wondered if you hand an original action from Birmingham like what is on my Manton you could duplicate it?.

Probably, of course most things are possible with money and time.

quote:

Originally posted by boom stick:
How can you determine accuracy when the bullet diameter is equal to 1 MOA lol
I guess if you are shooting clover leaf groups with a 2 bore thats not much bragging rights
Looks like you are making great progress.

Actually a cloverleaf is a pretty good bragging right...most guys can't stand two shots in a row, putting three in a cloverleaf from a rifle with this much recoil is pretty impressive by most standards.

Boring is really boring, here's the update so far this week....

Here's the link to the post:
http://stolzergunsmithing.word...ading-the-monoblock/

Link to the whole blog:
http://stolzergunsmithing.wordpress.com/

Enjoy

Colin

I got a little bit of draw filing done, this is the last update for this week:

Here's the link to the post:
http://stolzergunsmithing.word...able-and-breechface/

Link to the whole blog:
http://stolzergunsmithing.wordpress.com/

Enjoy

Colin

quote:

Originally posted by CowboyCS:
Or you could just go with the 2 Bore Muzzleloading pistol as a back-up...

Colin

DAMMMMM this is a very strong pistol!!!!

Colin, I find all the steps you are going through during the build quite interesting. Just keep em coming.

quote:

Originally posted by bigdoggy2bore:
Colin, I find all the steps you are going through during the build quite interesting. Just keep em coming.

+1

This should have been posted last week but I wasn't feeling well and didn't get as much done as I had wanted to.


Here's the link to the post:
http://stolzergunsmithing.word...lumps-and-hinge-pin/

Link to the whole blog:
http://stolzergunsmithing.wordpress.com/

Enjoy

Colin

anything new for this week?

Not enough video to make it worth posting...the holiday cut into my work. We had family come over for Thanksgiving and my wife had to work nights Mon, Tue, Wed...so my son and I ended up doing all the house work Wednesday so that the place was ready for company Thursday and Friday.

Some time this coming week I should have enough new footage to make a new video worth posting.

Colin

Last weeks work before Thanksgiving and today's work.


Here's the link to the post:
http://stolzergunsmithing.word...ius-and-breech-radi/

Link to the whole blog:
http://stolzergunsmithing.wordpress.com/

Enjoy

Colin

thanks for sharing.. this is great stuff

Glad you're enjoying it. I don't know that it's all that great...it's just the steps involved in building a double rifle. Lots of other gunsmiths around the world are more experienced at it than I am.

Colin