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Originally posted by ledvm:
First off Jefffive for the compulsory derogatory remarks you have to make. But, we all get used to it from your ilk.

But I read your links. They are a bit ambiguous to what the money was for. It appeared that it might humanitarian in nature similar to what the USA recently released — albeit, I am against that personally.

If I was Netanyahu…I too (an am unless it is Israel’s choice) would be against a 2-state option.

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Originally posted by Jefffive:


It was CASH, for whatever Hamas leadership wanted to use it for.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:


It was CASH, for whatever Hamas leadership wanted to use it for.

Hey, about the 1.6 billion in cash, on pallets, that went to Iran ..

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:


It was CASH, for whatever Hamas leadership wanted to use it for.

Hey, about the 1.6 billion in cash, on pallets, that went to Iran ..

I don't know what $1.6 billion you are referring to, and suspect that you don't either but just heard it from Mark Levin or Alex Jones, but since that amount is about what they realize per day from oil exports it seems not too significant.

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As details of the administration’s $1.7 billion cash payment to Iran began to leak last month, the administration argued – from President Obama on down – that there was simply no other way to pay Iran. “We couldn’t send them a check and we could not wire the money,” the president said on August 4.(2016)

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“Now, as it relates to the details, the fact of the matter is the United States does not have a banking relationship with Iran. And the reason for that is that the administration — the Obama administration — has kept in place tough financial sanctions against Iran because of a variety of concerns that we have about their behavior, including their support for terrorism, their violation of human rights, and a ballistic missile program that they maintain that continues to be inconsistent with U.N. Security Council…resolutions.” (White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest, 8/3/16)

“Iran was at that time, and frankly still is to some degree, relatively disconnected from the international financial system. And so that raised certain challenges in getting them their money. It couldn’t be done over wire transfers… So, bearing in mind that, we had to figure out ways to get them the money. We don’t have — we’ve never re-established a direct banking relationship with Iran and still, frankly, don’t intend to do so.” (State Department Deputy Spokesperson Mark Toner, 8/3/16)

“The reason that we had to give them cash is precisely because we are so strict in maintaining sanctions and we do not have a banking relationship with Iran that we couldn’t send them a check and we could not wire the money.” (President Barack Obama, 8/4/16)

“The reason that paper currency was used to make the transfer is because there’s no banking relationship between the United States and Iran. So it’s because of our commitment to ensuring the isolation of Iran that the transaction was carried out in this way.” (White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest, 8/22/16)

“Treasury Department spokeswoman Dawn Selak said in a statement the cash payments were necessary because of the ‘effectiveness of U.S. and international sanctions,’ which isolated Iran from the international finance system.” (9/6/16)

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:


It was CASH, for whatever Hamas leadership wanted to use it for.

Hey, about the 1.6 billion in cash, on pallets, that went to Iran ..

I don't know what $1.6 billion you are referring to, and suspect that you don't either but just heard it from Mark Levin or Alex Jones, but since that amount is about what they realize per day from oil exports it seems not too significant.

you are kinda of right .. it was 1.7, not 1.6, my bad -- where did I hear it from? this little ole thing? From Obama and his staff -- funny, i don't see a Jones or Levin listed as sources - weird, huh?

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As details of the administration’s $1.7 billion cash payment to Iran began to leak last month, the administration argued – from President Obama on down – that there was simply no other way to pay Iran. “We couldn’t send them a check and we could not wire the money,” the president said on August 4.(2016)

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“Now, as it relates to the details, the fact of the matter is the United States does not have a banking relationship with Iran. And the reason for that is that the administration — the Obama administration — has kept in place tough financial sanctions against Iran because of a variety of concerns that we have about their behavior, including their support for terrorism, their violation of human rights, and a ballistic missile program that they maintain that continues to be inconsistent with U.N. Security Council…resolutions.” (White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest, 8/3/16)

“Iran was at that time, and frankly still is to some degree, relatively disconnected from the international financial system. And so that raised certain challenges in getting them their money. It couldn’t be done over wire transfers… So, bearing in mind that, we had to figure out ways to get them the money. We don’t have — we’ve never re-established a direct banking relationship with Iran and still, frankly, don’t intend to do so.” (State Department Deputy Spokesperson Mark Toner, 8/3/16)

“The reason that we had to give them cash is precisely because we are so strict in maintaining sanctions and we do not have a banking relationship with Iran that we couldn’t send them a check and we could not wire the money.” (President Barack Obama, 8/4/16)

“The reason that paper currency was used to make the transfer is because there’s no banking relationship between the United States and Iran. So it’s because of our commitment to ensuring the isolation of Iran that the transaction was carried out in this way.” (White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest, 8/22/16)

“Treasury Department spokeswoman Dawn Selak said in a statement the cash payments were necessary because of the ‘effectiveness of U.S. and international sanctions,’ which isolated Iran from the international finance system.” (9/6/16)

I know reading is hard -- and you'll jump on one highlighted phrase, so let me help you

You are going to see That was flat-out false: and think it's a snopes like fact check -- it's not -- the denial is in regard to the POTUS (8/4/2016) saying "we could not wire the money,” the president said on August"


https://foreignaffairs.house.g...d-cash-way-pay-iran/

whew -- check out the citation source on that one...

Well, Jeff, today was a good day, you got (the chance) to learn something that you had previously denied - Man, good times

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Originally posted by Jefffive:
I will absolutely admit I didn't realize you were whining about something from two Presidents ago.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:
I will absolutely admit I didn't realize you were whining about something from two Presidents ago.

DAng... burn, amiright? So, what exactly is the threshold for it to be whining about the past? I mean, for hillary it was literally the same president (Benghazi) with "What difference, at this point, does it make?", and you froth at the mouth about one president ago -- i guess the magic number is 0, skip 1, 2 or more?

Though it's somewhat telling that you assume that something that happened, let me check the inverse rulebook, TWO presidents ago, but revert to the juvenile behavior of smearing something you knew (at the moment) zero about?

yeah, man, that's a great look .. you are winning, my boy.. absolutely killing it

I mean asking a question to thermonuclear sarge is whining ... i get it, articles of speech can be hard to keep up with, it could happen to anyone

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Originally posted by Jefffive:
It is truly a shame you are neither as clever nor as amusing as you obviously think yourself to be.

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Originally posted by Jefffive:
I am asserting that it has been common knowledge, reported widely in the press for years, that Netanyahu facilitated the transfer of cash, reportedly as much as a billion dollars,

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There are credible allegations that Netanyahu has paid Hamas leadership for years to oppose a two-state solution.
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Originally posted by Jefffive:
It was CASH, for whatever Hamas leadership wanted to use it for.

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:
It was CASH, for whatever Hamas leadership wanted to use it for.

Hey, about the 1.6 billion in cash, on pallets, that went to Iran ..

I don't know what $1.6 billion you are referring to, and suspect that you don't either .

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Originally posted by Jefffive:
I will absolutely admit I didn't realize you were whining about something from two Presidents ago.