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And, in essence, that is the crux of this thread; who's information can you believe? Someone who makes unbelievable claims, yet never posts evidence to back it up? Someone who claims to be looking out for the best interests of rookies and newbies, but only presents 50 year old data as the gospel according to Hotcore? Someone who continually belittles those of us who have embraced modern technology by saying it is a total waste of money? Glean what you will from this thread. But know this: everyone who posts enough on AR develops a reputation. Like Fonzie said to Ritchie, "At some time, you had to have actually HIT someone." We're giving Hotcore every chance to prove his elk-slaying, deer-slaying boasts. | |||
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Must not have thought too long then.  Whenever I read posts be certain posters I am reminded if the saying. "Foolish people should be encouraged to speak up. Then we can all see how foolish they are and know to ignore them"! Howard Moses Lake, Washington USA hwhomes@outlook.com | |||
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I haven't appointed myself Chief of the AR Congeniality Police at all. I was giving my opinion on how posters conduct themselves. I am also not looking for a solution to the infighting between the ladies here. My reference to "solutions to questions posted" were concerning handloading, shooting, hunting, etc...
Stop letting folks' opinions hurt your feelings. I have a chronograph too yet don't feel the need for this thread.
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...the infighting between the ladies here..., well, with that remark, you do exactly what you claim others here are guilty of. This makes you no better than those here whom you deride and it makes you seem like a cheap hypocrite. Maybe edit that comment and retore a little of your credibility? | |||
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Now how should we conduct ourselves? LOL Howard Moses Lake, Washington USA hwhomes@outlook.com | |||
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Ok, this has gone on long enough. I'll volunteer to settle the whole mess. All y'all hafta do is to get me and HotCore 3 bull elk tags apiece and send them to us. We will see who fills all three tags first, with the least shots, and the largest (cumulative) number of points and inside spread. If I win, then y'all can continue the thread...if not, then y'all hafta stop  !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good hunting, Andy ----------------------------- Thomas Jefferson: “To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” | |||
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Rcamuglia Since you don't want to have a dog in this fight you might want to bow out and leave us to our solution with Hot Core. No slam on you but throwing "ladies" out there is like the pot calling the kettle black and none to "cordial" at that. If you want to defend Hot Core then persuade him to answer the questions. Larry Gibson | |||
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How else would you characterize a thread on the medium bore rifle section that has nothing to do with medium bore rifles, its purpose is intended to publicly humiliate a member, and has the feeling of a tea room? Why can't you use the personal message function to get your point across? Why don't you use the ignore list to filter out members posts you don't care to read? | |||
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I have a whole lot of folks on my ignore button....very few from the shooting forums...mostly fronm the political forum. If someone isn't worth your time to read....use the ignore button.....this thread isn't at all the way to go! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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Y'all cut it out! I'm angling for some elk tags here!  Good hunting, Andy ----------------------------- Thomas Jefferson: “To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” | |||
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Well Gosh, it really wasn't my intention to pick a fight with you but since you have set yourself up as such an easy target.
I thought it wasn't about how things should be characterized I thought it was about being cordial. Apparently you reserve for yourself the right to not be cordial though eh?
Good question. Why don't you? You know you can also use your own mental ability to refrain from clicking on a thread too.
ummmm why don't you? Sorry I am in agreement with you on how nice it would be to be cordial but don't expect much sympathy if you come on here preaching holier then thou then almost immediately engage in the silly name calling you are protesting. Howard Moses Lake, Washington USA hwhomes@outlook.com | |||
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Teancum When the bullied finally stand up to the bully how is it that the self rightous always side with the bully? Note the quote above by Hot Core which is rather mild mannered for his usual post to us. Seems none are mentioning that. We become the bad guys because we finally stand up to him in a stand alone thread which the self rightous could just ignore as no one is forcing them to read any of it. It is the usual story that the bully could perhaps have been reasoned with, ignored, counseled or even given Ritilan. Oh well, I think I'll back on out of this thread because I've dealt with self rightous politically correct people all my life. They are usually the first to ask; why doesn't someone do something about that bully? Notice that "someone" always means someone else. Then they can take the high road and be "cordial". Talk with you and all the other "bullied" on another thread. ACRecurve; good luck on them elk tags. Perhaps Hot Core can provide them, he seems to be the leading authority and forum expert elk hunter. Just ask him, he'll tell you  Larry Gibson | |||
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Larry, I'm kinda wondering if there is something bugging you about something I said or did? What is it? Maybe we can be cordial about this.  To paraphrase your post: Those who don't side with the supporters of teancum, collectively the bullied victims in your view, are self-rightous antagonists. You don't appreciate any other points of view interfering with the purpose of this thread as you see it, which is to stand up collectively, as victims of a bully, and give him a dose of his own treatment, as a group, because having already done that individually didn't work. Now, this team effort of the bullied victims isn't working either, and it's all because of those darn self-rightous, politically correct, cordial, antagonists. So now, dissappointed, you'll just go pout and skulk, until another time. Did I miss anything? KB ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ | |||
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You know since I was the subject of Ol Hotcore's wrath, I am glad to see this continuing. Teancum, I am sure has it right. When I answered Hot's qualification of an elk I had shot, he had nothing to say at all, however, quite besides the point. When someone, anyone, starts knocking an excellent successful cartridge, regardless of caliber, they most likely lack the experience necessary to do so. Get um Teancum, you're right on! Jerry this has been going on for quite a long time, if you read above, you'll realize, IMO, that Hot's a troller, and not interested in anything but reading his own writtings, let him go on his way. By now we all know his ballistic and elk hunting expertise. Enough said, and forthe guys that take exception to Hot's BS, good for you. Jerry NRA Benefactor Life Member | |||
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definition of "bully": "a blustering, quarrelsome, overbearing person who habitually badgers and intimidates smaller or weaker people" how can ANYONE "bully" (intimidate) anyone on the internet. Someone miles away, whom you don't know, will never meet, and can easily ignor, can bully you? | |||
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Actually, us politically correct, cordial, self-rightous types see a whole clusterphuck of bullies in this thread, or at least wannabees, and primarily that's what it's about. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU44KwIfBXM There's one first and basic premise inside this thread, which I can't yet get, which is the notion that teancum can be bullied. Somehow, I don't think so. KB ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ | |||
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Kabluewy To paraphrase your post: Those who don't side with the supporters of teancum, collectively the bullied victims in your view, are self-rightous antagonists. Not at all, the point being is if you don't have a dog in this fight you should perhaps stay out. If you choose to not stay out and have a dog in the fight then when Hot Core goes off on us (like he has here and on many, many other threads) then you should say the same to him on those threads as you are saying to us here.You don't appreciate any other points of view interfering with the purpose of this thread as you see it, which is to stand up collectively, as victims of a bully, and give him a dose of his own treatment, as a group, because having already done that individually didn't work. Now, this team effort of the bullied victims isn't working either, and it's all because of those darn self-rightous, politically correct, cordial, antagonists.That is essentially correct except that I "appreciate" fair play. You don't take Hot core to task here or on any other threads so your "point of view" is quite obviously one sided, isn't it? Not a very "cordial" statement of yours BTW, but true it is with the one exception mentioned. So now, dissappointed, you'll just go pout and skulk, until another time.Your approval or "dissointment" wasn't a concern of mine. Sorry guy, but "pouting and Skulking" I'm not. Just tired of responding to posts like this. Dealing with Hot Core's BS is bad enough but at least he is consistent and not one sided in making his pitiful posts. How about when you come on to other threads, maybe even this one, and chastise Hot Core for what you chastise us for here then we'll give you credit. Until then you are doing no better than you insinuate we are doing. Did I miss anything? Obviously you did! This is my final post on this thread, bash away all you want but you have become what you disdain. Larry Gibson | |||
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You don't have to shout. In case you didn't get it, my post wasn't a slam on you, but tongue-in-cheek. I was messing with you though, and at the same time, hoping that it wouldn't piss you off. After all, paraphrasing is one of the main tools of the cordial, politically correct. I'm a redneck at heart, and heritage, and politically correct when I want or need to be, learned through the tuff school of being amongst um. Best Regards, KB ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ | |||
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May I suggest, that since we have all had our say as ...wannabes..., (LOL), we ALL just drop this and proceed to matters of great import, such as IS the .280Rem-160NP at 2825-fps-mv, REALLY a better Elk round than the .270Win-150NP at 2850-fps-mv.........ya know.......? It's a gorgeous Saturday morning full of birdsong and light breezes here in Vancouver, BC, I own lots of fine rifles and gear, can do pretty much as I please in life, have good health and a pretty fair income and will hit 64 a week from tomorrow...life is GOOD, AR is excellent and most guys here are real gentlemen, so, guys, phuck it, let it go, eh. | |||
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Exactly, I'm packing up my chit, boots and 458 and camera, and heading out the road to the million $ bridge, or thereabouts. I heard there's an annual party out there today - with food. Also, I'll be looking for anything worth looking at, but especially black bear. Maybe I'll hike in to one of those pretty backwoods lakes and see how the cutthroats are doing. I hope we all have a great weekend. KB ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ | |||
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Saw this quote posted on another thread, thougt it belonged on this thread. "Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass." Mark Twain Mark Twain didn't much like people, especially towards the end of his life. This thread gives evidence why. | |||
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I have been watching this thread out of boredom. It’s interesting that this thread was started to target one member by another member who I have wondered about his/her mental maturity. I have no idea who or what Hot Core is as a person, a shooter, or a hunter anymore than I know who Teancum is. Everyone can be anything they want to be on the Internet, it’s a Peter Pan world. I know I’m not the most popular guy on this forum, I get a little vocal on reloading safety issues, some people have put me on ignore because of it. But I see a little bit of piling on by a few members that I didn’t think where so petty. | |||
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I'd say that the authors and piler-on'ers of this thread have a "hard-on" for HC, except that's part of a man..... .....and not very cordial. | |||
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There is a difference between big men and little men and it has nothing to do with body size. | |||
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Hot Bore as a victim??? that's as ironic as the NAACP coming to the aid of a Klan member being harassed for his activities... if H/C hasn't flamed and name called so many people and then made such audacious claims as he has, this thread wouldn't exist... in reality, the author of this post, is Hot Bore and his posts to many other forum members.. the Flak he might get, he has bought and paid for Big Time... the tone here toward Hot Bore is a lot more civilized than he has shown to many other forum members.. if he apologized for some of the slanderous posts he has made with malicious intent, toward individual members... then maybe he deserves the sympathy... I for one would like to see him as an accepted member of the forum... but a change in attitude is going to have to start in his court,.... I don't understand why his posts have to reflect such a chip on his shoulder constantly.. | |||
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OK, I see your point. I have an idea. I don't know if it's a good idea, but I'll ask. Is Hotsie still flaming others? Are there any current posts elsewhere (outside this thread) that show he hasn't changed his tune? I don't follow this guy around, and often I just don't read his posts, so I don't know. I think it would be interesting to know. After all, I'm doubting that he will appologize (kiss arsh) but he might tone it down as a result of this thread. If he can't or won't even do that, then you are peeing into the wind. Oh, now I remember that there is a way to back search his posts, which I havent done yet. But I still think it's a good question. I'll search when I have time, but meanwhile maybe someone has a comment on this. KB ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ | |||
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Seafire, the last thing you can call Hot Core is a victim. I know he has hammered on you and a few others for sometime now. He has brought this on himself for sure but does it take 8 pages for you guys to extract your “pound of flesh”? | |||
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a very valid question Mick.. If it was only me that Hot Core ragged on, then I can take it... I'd just return it.. but the problem has been, that I am not alone as being in his sights to criticize and flame.. and making outlandish claims...well I just slough it off... believe me, no one wants to see we all get along in here more than me... and that includes with Glenn.. its much more rewarding to be here swapping experiences, than coming here and swapping insults..... Believe me, I wish the man well.. and to have a happy and long life, and have all the success a hunter can have.... I've tried to be a friend, but the one whom has been on the offense has been H/C...and not only with me, but too many others.. still I'd be more than happy to share a campfire with him, and if he was visiting my home town, he'd be a welcomed and honored guest, regardless of our one line differences.. pretty much the same as any other forum member.. and one or two have taken me up on that in the past...and I think they enjoyed my family's hospitality.. | |||
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John, spoken in the true Christian spirit and a respectable person you are, sir. However, I dare say if ol' hotbore once again defiled the reasonable use of bluedot powder, he'd find himself IN that campfire. Maybe with the spit up his ass. | |||
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Good post John. | |||
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Actually, not a good point. Starting with praising Christian principles of the poster, then wallowing in the poo poo with "Finding himself in the campfire with a split up his ass", which is the antithesis of what Christ would teach! Pitiful and pathetic! | |||
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Dave I laughed out loud when I read your post!!!  | |||
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I'm still waiting on those elk tags...just sayin'. Good hunting, Andy ----------------------------- Thomas Jefferson: “To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” | |||
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I have been lucky enough to get a cow elk tag this year. For one of our units up near Williams Arizona. It is a muzzel loader tag, so I thought I would use my trusty Ol 270MV,77/50 Ruger, LOL! Jerry NRA Benefactor Life Member | |||
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Actually, not a good point. Starting with praising Christian principles of the poster, then wallowing in the poo poo with "Finding himself in the campfire with a split up his ass", which is the antithesis of what Christ would teach! Pitiful and pathetic! | |||
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 those are some pretty tough talkers you're taking on RCA.  i'm out a here.  rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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