WOW!! Something completely new and heretofore unheard of on AR. A thread about Mark Sullivan!!

I suppose one can expect negative comments when an advert for a chest thumping idiot, who demeans the whole professional hunting community by his silly antics is posted.

What an utterly disgusting man!

Oh, come on Saeed. Don't hold back, tell us what you really think!

quote:

Originally posted by Thomasjohn:
The hippo looks like it just woke up from a nap.

And had sand kicked in his face!

Maybe we need an advertising forum...

Never seen his videos.
I assume, it's like Arnold's or Stallone's movies ( they do their own stunts as well ).
Looks great, fun to watch, but all for show?
New trend " Afrowood "
Well, might have to watch them one of these Winter nights.
Maybe I will like them.

quote:

Originally posted by boarkiller:
Never seen his videos.
I assume, it's like Arnold's or Stallone's movies ( they do their own stunts as well ).
Looks great, fun to watch, but all for show?
New trend " Afrowood "
Well, might have to watch them one of these Winter nights.
Maybe I will like them.

Good analogy.

I have most of his videos and I enjoy them when I'm not hunting or target shooting or reloading.

quote:

Originally posted by tysue:
...If you go to Nitroexpresssafaris.com, you can view this particular encounter, and a number of others...

tysue,
Just to clarify this video was shot on October 4th of this year so it is not posted on either my Website or Nitro Express Safaris. The photo (frame grab) is not being presented to market a DVD. The footage where this frame grab was pulled is not part of a DVD.

Shawn

quote:

Originally posted by Antlers:
Maybe we need an advertising forum...

Some threads certainly seem to fit that bill.

for damn sure this thread fits the advertising bill. it has nothing to do with the client- it has everything to do with Mark shooting the client's animal on camera( with the camera over Mark's shoulder, not the sap paying for the privilege of letting Mark saying shoot, then immediately banging the hippo).....

I am well aware that some on AR are unable to view any item involving Mark Sullivan without making assumptions, accusations, or resorting to name calling. The image was provided for those who enjoy hunting dangerous game up close as opposed to shooting dangerous game from a distance. As we know this is what Mark and his clients do regularly.

Some have tried to extract learning where to shoot from the image. It is nice to see the sharing of views on what works when shooting a hippo up close.

There are many, including myself that enjoy hunting up close and also hunting with Mark. Mark has never shot before me or killed any of my animals. At any rate, those of us who have hunted dangerous game at 10 feet and less realize that at any moment it may become a team event.

When you choose to hunt in this manner the guy next to you is your partner. You must kill the charging animal dead at your feet. All of the clients who seek out Mark to hunt in this manner understand this and often book years in advance for the opportunity to do so.

It may not be your cup of tea but it is mine and it may also be for others.

Cheers,
Shawn

ExpressYourself:

Pray enlighten us why is it the camera is almost always focused on MS as "prima persona" and hardly ever the client in these "blood curdling" situations? - in fact the client appears to be playing 'second string to the fiddle' in just about every DVD! ..... or is it just my imagination?

no, it is not your imagination. the "client" is not the hunter- Mark is the hunter. the OP can gloss over it all he wants but the bottom line is people (fools) pay a lot of money to have him shoot their animals...... look at the title of this thread. the hippo didn't meet John Doe- he met Mark( let him decide how he wants to die) Sullivan.

In my hunting experiences with Mark if a camera was present it was behind me or over my shoulder as often as it was Mark. I have to say that I am not concerned if I show up in a DVD or not. It is not why I choose to hunt with Mark. The many clients that I have met who hunt with Mark regularly are of the same mindset.

Perhaps you may want to ask Mark this question yourself. He is always quick to return a phone call or speak with someone when they reach out to him. I enjoy watching and learning from Mark in person and of course before that through his DVDs and books. There is a lot of material that one can learn to keep themself safe in a close encounter of the dangerous kind. That is why I enjoy hunting with Mark. He is also a lot of fun and a great host.

as a client, you generally pay a cameraman to film the hunt- with you, the client, as the center of attention. so are you saying if you hunt with Mark, you pay the cameraman and Mark is the center of attention? or if you hunt with him, do you just sign a release and let him shoot your animals on film while you pay for the privilege of hunting with him??? i am a bit confused.

I have never paid for a cameraman that was present on my hunts with Mark. I have never signed any type of a release to hunt with Mark. And as I mentioned above, Mark has never shot before me or killed any of my animals.

Shawn

quote:

Originally posted by ExpressYourself:
The image was provided for those who enjoy hunting dangerous game up close as opposed to shooting dangerous game from a distance. As we know this is what Mark and his clients do regularly .




When you choose to hunt in this manner the guy next to you is your partner. You must kill the charging animal dead at your feet.


Cheers,
Shawn

Shawn,

I have a serious question. Aside from an already wounded animal how is it that you can consistently get to "regularly" get animals in Africa to confront you?

I'm serious!! I have hunted Africa, less than some, more than others. I have shot an unwounded Lion in the open face to face at 40 yards. If I had wanted it to be 10 yards it would not have happened.

African game, unmolested, given the choice will flee.

Anyone who thinks otherwise has been watching too many DVD's.

All the hunting I've done and read about the past 60yrs.

A charge is the end result of someone fkg up a previous shot wounding an animal that has to be tracked down and finished off.

NOT deliberately provoking a charge just for the thrill of seeing whether the shooter (Mark)
has the balls to stand up to what ever is making the charge. Which I gather from watching some of his vids on his website is the way he hunts a great many DG animals. Sooner or later somethings going to fail and he's gonna get stomped into the mud or eaten. Carve that on your wall and check back in a few yrs to learn whether I'm right or not.

Shawn: Sure some guys enjoy that kind of stupid shit, I doubt very much that most of us would want a hunt to end that way if it can be prevented.
By the way, would you please define: Many
Thank you,
George

quote:

Originally posted by Frostbit:

quote:

Originally posted by ExpressYourself:
The image was provided for those who enjoy hunting dangerous game up close as opposed to shooting dangerous game from a distance. As we know this is what Mark and his clients do regularly .




When you choose to hunt in this manner the guy next to you is your partner. You must kill the charging animal dead at your feet.


Cheers,
Shawn

Shawn,

I have a serious question. Aside from an already wounded animal how is it that you can consistently get to "regularly" get animals in Africa to confront you?

I'm serious!! I have hunted Africa, less than some, more than others. I have shot an unwounded Lion in the open face to face at 40 yards. If I had wanted it to be 10 yards it would not have happened.

African game, unmolested, given the choice will flee.

Anyone who thinks otherwise has been watching too many DVD's.

Hi Frostbit,

As I mentioned, “The image was provided for those who enjoy hunting dangerous game up close as opposed to shooting dangerous game from a distance. As we know this is what Mark and his clients do regularly."

Hunting close is not difficult if that is your intention and hunting style. Getting animals to confront you regularly, wounded or not, is not what I was implying and does not occur regularly as you say. Good point and thanks for clarifying.

Expressyourself. Looks like I was wrong about where the hippo picture from. Kinda looked like the one charging out of the pool. Point was, that others commented on Marks hunting style, etc., without having seen any of his videos. I have only seen clips from them myself, but the clips show his style etc. I personally might or might not want to engage in that kind of shoot. Also, who says the client is paying for the cameraman? I'm sure it isn't the client, as Mark is marketing the movies from the filming, so presume he is going to be in it more than the client. In my opinion, shooting dg like mark does not different than someone who doesn't even understand what hunting means, shooting a deer or Elk from 800 yds with a "long range" rifle, or someone setting in a tree, and ambushing a deer. They're both incompetent to get down on the ground and actually hunt the animal. Or, and I've heard this said by some "hunters" no one can stalk a deer and walk and stop doesn't work (sure did for a couple 100 years). Anyway, my post was not taking Marks part, so much as saying, if you haven't at least seen his films, and KNOW from them what's going on, shouldn't be making comments about it.

quote:

Originally posted by tysue:
In my opinion, shooting dg like mark does not different than someone who doesn't even understand what hunting means, shooting a deer or Elk from 800 yds with a "long range" rifle, or someone setting in a tree, and ambushing a deer. They're both incompetent to get down on the ground and actually hunt the animal. Or, and I've heard this said by some "hunters" no one can stalk a deer and walk and stop doesn't work (sure did for a couple 100 years)

I am sure that if early primitive man had the easier option of using a modern rifle to allow him to more conveniently take game at safer longer distances ,..rather than having to get really close to throw rocks & spears at DG, then he would have gladly taken the modern rifle option....It would be the intelligent thing to do.

quote:

Originally posted by Sean Russell:

Sean,

I like this campaign you've got going! Good work sir!

And +1!!!

In my opinion, Mark is developping a market niche for those who want to approach big game for adrenalin. I second you, that he takes the lion's share but if the client is happy so be it. Some feel happy with a macho leading the show.
Secondly, the largest mystery is how to entice big game to charge. In my limited experience with dangerous game, elephants and rhino apart, they all flee as soon as they take notice of you, that's why big game hunting requires 2 weeks at least. Most of the approachs fail until we manage to outsmart the game. Hunting would be a cinch should the game on a regular basis charge.
Mark is a showman. He got fame from his videos and is acting according to his special market niche.
I feel neutral with this guy. Not my cup of tea at all, but there is no accounting for tastes.

Mark and I were just relaxing and talking before calling it a night. As most of you know, Mark does not spend his time posting on the AR forums regularly.

I mentioned to him about some of the AR comments regarding the frame grab I posted from the October 4th hunt. I showed Mark the AR thread as well. He said he thought he would post a comment and quickly typed up a note for me on his iPad. He asked me to put it up for him (in open letter form) on the thread. So here it is:


Dear Shawn,

One day I may die because of how I hunt dangerous game. So what! My clients (without exception) love it. They seek me out just as surely as we seek "death on the hoof." Yes, my client missed the brain; his bullet striking one of the two big bottom tusks. Of course he was disappointed with his shooting, but when asked if risking his life was worth the risk...he said yes!

Shakespeare once wrote; a fearful man dies a thousand deaths while a brave man dies but once! If Saeed and all his like-minded buddies were women their "periods" would never end!

One thing for certain; my critics will never get testicular cancer. None of them have any balls!

You can quote me on this!

Mark


I keep telling Mark he should really try to stop being so hard to read and just say what he is thinking. Perhaps one day he will consider taking my advice.

Shawn

quote:

Originally posted by ExpressYourself:
Dear Shawn,

One day I may die because of how I hunt dangerous game. So what! My clients (without exception) love it. They seek me out just as surely as we seek "death on the hoof." Yes, my client missed the brain; his bullet striking one of the two big bottom tusks. Of course he was disappointed with his shooting, but when asked if risking his life was worth the risk...he said yes!

Shakespeare once wrote; a fearful man dies a thousand deaths while a brave man dies but once! If Saeed and all his like-minded buddies were women their "periods" would never end!

One thing for certain; my critics will never get testicular cancer. None of them have any balls!

You can quote me on this!

Mark
Shawn

Hmm, how antagonizing.

The fools that ridicule. Most sports have fragmented factions within them. Marks DG style is just that: a small faction that likes the thrill, the possibility of a confrontation.

Hunting buffalo from 100 yards is no more dangerous that shooting a Tommy at 300 yards.

If Mark chose to not confront, he has that option, his option means (with buffalo) to follow up immediately, to approach from the front. making the buffalo either charge or run.

It's really no more difficult than that.

As far a shooting clients game, he must decide to either shoot or let a client get run over. What would you choose Jerry? you obviously feel talented enough in these matters to conduct your own Bongo hunt.

If a man chooses to climb K2 or Everest is he also a fool? or has he chosen to live by his own measure not to allow society to decide which box to live within. Isn't this activity also putting ones life at stake for really no other purpose than the primal desire for adrenaline?

Mark Sullivan is his own man, much more than I can say for the following sycophants on this forum and others. You need not agree with his style to offer respect.

quote:

Originally posted by Nganga:
The fools that ridicule. Most sports have fragmented factions within them. Marks DG style is just that: a small faction that likes the thrill, the possibility of a confrontation.

Hunting buffalo from 100 yards is no more dangerous that shooting a Tommy at 300 yards.

If Mark chose to not confront, he has that option, his option means (with buffalo) to follow up immediately, to approach from the front. making the buffalo either charge or run.

It's really no more difficult than that.

As far a shooting clients game, he must decide to either shoot or let a client get run over. What would you choose Jerry? you obviously feel talented enough in these matters to conduct your own Bongo hunt.

If a man chooses to climb K2 or Everest is he also a fool? or has he chosen to live by his own measure not to allow society to decide which box to live within. Isn't this activity also putting ones life at stake for really no other purpose than the primal desire for adrenaline?

Mark Sullivan is his own man, much more than I can say for the following sycophants on this forum and others. You need not agree with his style to offer respect.

Well said Steve!

Gentlemen,

I don't need to add anything.

Straight from his own mouth.

Read it, and tell me if this is coming from anyone with any common sense!

I have never, ever, met a REAL PH who likes what Mark Sullivan does.

It goes against the grain of being a PH to provoke an animal to charge.

Professional hunters I know are proud when a season finish, and they have not fired a single shot.

Our nitwit here makes himself the center of attention. He actually thinks he is playing to the same crowd who watch the trash Hollywood put out.

He has become blind to the reality of hunting.

When someone has his wits about him, there is absolutely no danger in hunting.

Bar some of the very sad accidents we hear about sometimes that do occur.

But, they are accidents.

Not acted out just so one man can claim he is the only one, without exception, who has the balls to stand his ground when an animal charges.

He likes us to somehow forget that he actually instigates these charges to feed his own ego.



To members of AR, friends, and clients:

It gives me great pleasure to have this opportunity to write you. To the surprise of many, I have not purposely avoided this day. I am not as well versed in the computer arena as many of you, nor do I wish to be. I live a simple life. I have never tried or wanted to be a disruptive influence. I go about my business one day at a time. I infringe upon no one. I expect the same from others. I suppose this is why I am misunderstood. People believe I am aloof; and perhaps even arrogant. I am none of the above. My intentions are honorable, I assure you. For my critics on this forum I now answer your allegations against me.

I began my professional hunting career in Tanzania in 1990 at the age of 40. Then as now; I go about my business one day at a time. I offend no one. I am professional to everyone. I have no ax to grind and; no dog in the fight. As I did 20 years ago, I still, in my view, hunt for all of the right reasons and none of the bad as I have so often been accused. I do not hunt for the camera or to show off. I do not brag or boast. I instruct. I answer questions. I also write books. I make documentary hunting films that are responsible for thousands of hunters going on safari each year.

My movies evoke great emotion. Either you like them or you do not. Regardless of your emotions so invoked, they are true. The charges are real. If you watch them with an unbiased eye, you will notice no edits ever occur moments before or during a charge. In all cases, my clients shoot first. My shot always follows theirs. The footage is unaltered. It is authentic as it happens footage. Whether you like what you see or not is a different matter. The life and death events depicted on the screen cannot be denied. In the wild, everyday is kill or be killed, eat or be eaten. My films simply show this raw side of nature.

I suppose the reason why a great many people hate me and my movies, for lack of a better description, is I do what I do because it is who I am. Just as it may be your nature not to take chances, which makes you who and what you are. I love the confrontation. I seek it. I enjoy a fight to the death. I relish the idea that if I perform poorly I die a horrible death. I’m attracted to the cycle of life and death. I often try and get as close to death as I can, crossing the line if I choose, just to get a good whiff. Last season I enjoyed four outstanding life and death charges with as many clients. No cameraman was present. Each client came away with a life defining experience. Each one would do it again if given the opportunity.

I know my manner and method of hunting is controversial. Yet, in my opinion, it represents the finest hunting there is. I honor the life I am about to take by offering my life in return. I can offer no more and therefore give hunting my all. If I fail to kill, I die. It is as simple as that. If we are to believe in the sport we call “dangerous game hunting,” then why do so many do everything in their power to remove as much danger as possible? Why call it dangerous game? Why not call it “least dangerous” if the object is to remove all danger? Why criticize me for accepting the danger in our sport? I do not like killing. I do like hunting—there is a difference. Anyone can kill a wounded Cape buffalo standing his ground 40 yards away. In my opinion, to do so is killing. On the other hand, to walk up and let that magnificent animal decide how he is to die in battle is great hunting. If you lack courage that is something I cannot help you with. But to condemn me because I have the courage you lack is unfair and unjust.

For example, a client shoots and wounds a buffalo. Then the buffalo is allowed to run. The client and professional hunter sit down for 30 to 45 minutes to let the buffalo “stiffen.” Is the buffalo not suffering during this time? The buffalo is allowed to “stiffen” which is code word to die. Is that “dangerous game” hunting to you? I pursue my buffalo immediately, every time. I do not want to find him dead. I want him alive. I want him to charge to his death or mine should I fail to stop him. Killing is boring. Great hunting never is. This is who I am. While I am on this point of clients wounding dangerous game and how quickly I go after it, let me address the often-mentioned criticism that I not only risk my own life, but that of my client. Over the past 20 years I have been a professional hunter I have never had a client (or tracker) harmed by an animal being hunted. In every instance, I first obtain express permission from the client. More often than not, a client chooses me to hunt with because of the unique hunting experience I offer. A client knows I have the proven experience to close with dangerous game and correctly books his safari. If the truth be known, I make a pretty good insurance policy.

Mr. Kim Petersen posted a letter addressed to me. I wish to answer his allegations.

The first is I intentionally wound buffalo so as to prompt them into charging. This is not true. I instruct my clients to always make the best possible shot. The indisputable fact is clients shoot poorly and nothing will ever change that reality. Coupled with the fact buffalo are notoriously difficult to kill, these two conditions make hunting them a challenge. I know many of you have killed buffalo with one shot. That is not the norm. Buffalo take a great deal of killing. I know. I have the experience to prove it. The notion that I use a .22 to shoot buffalo in the balls is not worth the effort I am about to make to dispute it, but here it goes anyway. I do not know where you hunt your buffalo. Where I hunt my buffalo the grass, bush, trees, and every other obstacle God created obscures most parts of a buffalo anyhow. In 20 years I do not recall ever seeing the testicles of a buffalo before he was shot nor have I ever had any inclination to try and shoot them. What is the point? For those who have no penchant for ever doing what I do, I can only imagine their minds race wild with things that don’t matter. If you want a buffalo to charge, put yourself in front of him, let him see you, then walk directly at him. The notion that I would waste my time using a .22 should embarrass those spreading the rumor.

The second question is more of a statement than a question. After a client takes his shot on dangerous game, I determine whether or not a backup shot is necessary or even possible. The last thing I want is for a wounded animal to get away. Contrary to what I have been accused of, I do fire backup shots quickly. More often than not, I have been blamed for firing too quickly, too often. I shoot as a backup for a number of reasons. Clients demand that I do. I determine they need help by observing their skills or lack thereof. If I am filming I believe more gun shots are better than fewer gun shots. I remember purchasing a hunting movie where I waited 45 minutes to hear the first gun shot. That may be the kind of movie you like to watch, but not me.

The second part of this is I “taunt my prey…for the purpose of filming a charge.” While this statement seems logical to the inexperienced, it is precisely for that reason why it is not true. Let me explain. An inexperienced client, or equally inexperienced professional hunter, wrongly believes that in order to get a wounded buffalo to charge, you must first “taunt” him. The very fact that someone says this tells me he has limited dangerous game experience and does not know what he says. His knowledge of wounded buffalo behavior is incomplete or simply nonexistent. Let me set the record straight. There are two kinds of buffalo; those that run and those that charge. Ninety-five percent of all wounded buffalo fall into the first category. Those that run will never charge. They are cowards and no amount of campfire story telling will change that fact. The five percent that charge do not have to be taunted at all. The moment it sees you they charge. The idea that it must be taunted into charging is simply untrue. The mere fact that you have violated their personal space by being there is enough to set them off. What is not known beforehand is which kind of buffalo you are confronting. I have never had a buffalo that first runs away, later turn and charge. In my new book “Fear No Death” I go into great detail about this and much more. Anyone interested in knowing what I know should obtain a copy.

The third item, “my clients must sign a non-disclosure agreement” is a new one. I marvel at the creativity of the Mark Sullivan haters of the world. It reminds me when people say my cajones are the size of grapefruit. While I am sure they are trying to flatter me, I later set the record straight and confessed they are the size of watermelons. Directing a client not to talk about his safari with Mark Sullivan would be like trying to tell your wife she can’t go shopping. My clients are highly educated professional people and would never sign such a document. I could no more tell them what to do than they could tell me.

The fourth question conflicts with question #2. On the one hand I am accused of not “firing backup shots to kill a buffalo” at the first opportunity and now I am accused of firing shots “on top of my clients.” Let me tell you this story. In 1997 I did not have a cameraman. Sensitive to the criticism that I shoot clients game “on their dime” I decided to experiment. I would not help a single client shoot his buffalo, except if one charged, and none did. The next three clients wounded five buffalo and all were lost. Each bull had an outside horn measurement greater than 40 inches with one I was sure would exceed 45 inches. All shots were standing broadside shots under 100 yards. The animals seemingly there for the taking and yet they were lost to die a horrible death in the bush. I ask you, “Is that what you want?” Do you wish me not to shoot so the animal runs off never to be found? I cannot believe any hunter wants that. I certainly do not. I believe we have an obligation to kill the animal as quickly and as humanely as possible.

In my movie Death by the TON, the young man’s statement deserves an explanation. I was perturbed you may say, but not for the reasons you state. This is where the way I hunt differs from how you hunt. The reason why I was disappointed is because the charging hippo was too far away to be shot. He was 21 feet away. In my opinion that is too far for a certain killing shot. My instructions to my client (before we entered the arena) were to wait until the hippo breaks the 10 foot barrier before shooting. He did not do that. I do not believe in shooting early. Twenty one feet is much too far. Why is it too far? It goes to the core of how I hunt dangerous game. I believe 10 feet is the correct distance to begin shooting; not 21 feet. It is all about the hunt, not the kill. At 10 feet it is hunting. At 21 feet it is killing. This is how I hunt. By the way, for those of you who have never stood just ten feet in front of a charging animal, there is not a lot of time to shoot. This is why it appears I am shooting “on top of my client” to the inexperienced. If you disagree that is fine. However, your disagreeing with me does not make you right. Conversely, these are solely my views. They do not make me correct either. I prefer to let my clients determine if my hunting method is right for them.

Tomorrow, Saturday, I leave for Tanzania to begin my 21st season. I will not be present to respond to your comments. If I have insulted any of you, please accept my full and complete apology. My intention is not to irritate. My writing manner is direct much like my manner and method of hunting. This is how I am made. It is what makes me—me. I have no trouble with those who disagree. But until you hunt with me you will never know me. I have more clients this year than I have ever had. I do not hold a gun to their heads to get them to sign up. They come to me willingly and leave as life-long friends. I welcome each and everyone one of you to do the same. Remember, shoot straight and let them come close!

In closing, I wish to personally thank those in support of my SCI situation. I know many of you have written SCI on my behalf. I cannot begin to thank you enough. I am humbled by your generosity. I am honored with your friendship. Recently I renewed my membership for an additional three years. Regardless of their treatment of me, I will continue to support SCI at every opportunity.

Great Hunting and Best Wishes,

Mark Sullivan
Professional Hunter

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
Gentlemen,

I don't need to add anything.

Straight from his own mouth.

Read it, and tell me if this is coming from anyone with any common sense!

I have never, ever, met a REAL PH who likes what Mark Sullivan does.

It goes against the grain of being a PH to provoke an animal to charge.

Professional hunters I know are proud when a season finish, and they have not fired a single shot.

Our nitwit here makes himself the center of attention. He actually thinks he is playing to the same crowd who watch the trash Hollywood put out.

He has become blind to the reality of hunting.

When someone has his wits about him, there is absolutely no danger in hunting.

Bar some of the very sad accidents we hear about sometimes that do occur.

But, they are accidents.

Not acted out just so one man can claim he is the only one, without exception, who has the balls to stand his ground when an animal charges.

He likes us to somehow forget that he actually instigates these charges to feed his own ego.


To members of AR, friends, and clients:

It gives me great pleasure to have this opportunity to write you. To the surprise of many, I have not purposely avoided this day. I am not as well versed in the computer arena as many of you, nor do I wish to be. I live a simple life. I have never tried or wanted to be a disruptive influence. I go about my business one day at a time. I infringe upon no one. I expect the same from others. I suppose this is why I am misunderstood. People believe I am aloof; and perhaps even arrogant. I am none of the above. My intentions are honorable, I assure you. For my critics on this forum I now answer your allegations against me.

I began my professional hunting career in Tanzania in 1990 at the age of 40. Then as now; I go about my business one day at a time. I offend no one. I am professional to everyone. I have no ax to grind and; no dog in the fight. As I did 20 years ago, I still, in my view, hunt for all of the right reasons and none of the bad as I have so often been accused. I do not hunt for the camera or to show off. I do not brag or boast. I instruct. I answer questions. I also write books. I make documentary hunting films that are responsible for thousands of hunters going on safari each year.

My movies evoke great emotion. Either you like them or you do not. Regardless of your emotions so invoked, they are true. The charges are real. If you watch them with an unbiased eye, you will notice no edits ever occur moments before or during a charge. In all cases, my clients shoot first. My shot always follows theirs. The footage is unaltered. It is authentic as it happens footage. Whether you like what you see or not is a different matter. The life and death events depicted on the screen cannot be denied. In the wild, everyday is kill or be killed, eat or be eaten. My films simply show this raw side of nature.

I suppose the reason why a great many people hate me and my movies, for lack of a better description, is I do what I do because it is who I am. Just as it may be your nature not to take chances, which makes you who and what you are. I love the confrontation. I seek it. I enjoy a fight to the death. I relish the idea that if I perform poorly I die a horrible death. I’m attracted to the cycle of life and death. I often try and get as close to death as I can, crossing the line if I choose, just to get a good whiff. Last season I enjoyed four outstanding life and death charges with as many clients. No cameraman was present. Each client came away with a life defining experience. Each one would do it again if given the opportunity.

I know my manner and method of hunting is controversial. Yet, in my opinion, it represents the finest hunting there is. I honor the life I am about to take by offering my life in return. I can offer no more and therefore give hunting my all. If I fail to kill, I die. It is as simple as that. If we are to believe in the sport we call “dangerous game hunting,” then why do so many do everything in their power to remove as much danger as possible? Why call it dangerous game? Why not call it “least dangerous” if the object is to remove all danger? Why criticize me for accepting the danger in our sport? I do not like killing. I do like hunting—there is a difference. Anyone can kill a wounded Cape buffalo standing his ground 40 yards away. In my opinion, to do so is killing. On the other hand, to walk up and let that magnificent animal decide how he is to die in battle is great hunting. If you lack courage that is something I cannot help you with. But to condemn me because I have the courage you lack is unfair and unjust.

For example, a client shoots and wounds a buffalo. Then the buffalo is allowed to run. The client and professional hunter sit down for 30 to 45 minutes to let the buffalo “stiffen.” Is the buffalo not suffering during this time? The buffalo is allowed to “stiffen” which is code word to die. Is that “dangerous game” hunting to you? I pursue my buffalo immediately, every time. I do not want to find him dead. I want him alive. I want him to charge to his death or mine should I fail to stop him. Killing is boring. Great hunting never is. This is who I am. While I am on this point of clients wounding dangerous game and how quickly I go after it, let me address the often-mentioned criticism that I not only risk my own life, but that of my client. Over the past 20 years I have been a professional hunter I have never had a client (or tracker) harmed by an animal being hunted. In every instance, I first obtain express permission from the client. More often than not, a client chooses me to hunt with because of the unique hunting experience I offer. A client knows I have the proven experience to close with dangerous game and correctly books his safari. If the truth be known, I make a pretty good insurance policy.

Mr. Kim Petersen posted a letter addressed to me. I wish to answer his allegations.

The first is I intentionally wound buffalo so as to prompt them into charging. This is not true. I instruct my clients to always make the best possible shot. The indisputable fact is clients shoot poorly and nothing will ever change that reality. Coupled with the fact buffalo are notoriously difficult to kill, these two conditions make hunting them a challenge. I know many of you have killed buffalo with one shot. That is not the norm. Buffalo take a great deal of killing. I know. I have the experience to prove it. The notion that I use a .22 to shoot buffalo in the balls is not worth the effort I am about to make to dispute it, but here it goes anyway. I do not know where you hunt your buffalo. Where I hunt my buffalo the grass, bush, trees, and every other obstacle God created obscures most parts of a buffalo anyhow. In 20 years I do not recall ever seeing the testicles of a buffalo before he was shot nor have I ever had any inclination to try and shoot them. What is the point? For those who have no penchant for ever doing what I do, I can only imagine their minds race wild with things that don’t matter. If you want a buffalo to charge, put yourself in front of him, let him see you, then walk directly at him. The notion that I would waste my time using a .22 should embarrass those spreading the rumor.

The second question is more of a statement than a question. After a client takes his shot on dangerous game, I determine whether or not a backup shot is necessary or even possible. The last thing I want is for a wounded animal to get away. Contrary to what I have been accused of, I do fire backup shots quickly. More often than not, I have been blamed for firing too quickly, too often. I shoot as a backup for a number of reasons. Clients demand that I do. I determine they need help by observing their skills or lack thereof. If I am filming I believe more gun shots are better than fewer gun shots. I remember purchasing a hunting movie where I waited 45 minutes to hear the first gun shot. That may be the kind of movie you like to watch, but not me.

The second part of this is I “taunt my prey…for the purpose of filming a charge.” While this statement seems logical to the inexperienced, it is precisely for that reason why it is not true. Let me explain. An inexperienced client, or equally inexperienced professional hunter, wrongly believes that in order to get a wounded buffalo to charge, you must first “taunt” him. The very fact that someone says this tells me he has limited dangerous game experience and does not know what he says. His knowledge of wounded buffalo behavior is incomplete or simply nonexistent. Let me set the record straight. There are two kinds of buffalo; those that run and those that charge. Ninety-five percent of all wounded buffalo fall into the first category. Those that run will never charge. They are cowards and no amount of campfire story telling will change that fact. The five percent that charge do not have to be taunted at all. The moment it sees you they charge. The idea that it must be taunted into charging is simply untrue. The mere fact that you have violated their personal space by being there is enough to set them off. What is not known beforehand is which kind of buffalo you are confronting. I have never had a buffalo that first runs away, later turn and charge. In my new book “Fear No Death” I go into great detail about this and much more. Anyone interested in knowing what I know should obtain a copy.

The third item, “my clients must sign a non-disclosure agreement” is a new one. I marvel at the creativity of the Mark Sullivan haters of the world. It reminds me when people say my cajones are the size of grapefruit. While I am sure they are trying to flatter me, I later set the record straight and confessed they are the size of watermelons. Directing a client not to talk about his safari with Mark Sullivan would be like trying to tell your wife she can’t go shopping. My clients are highly educated professional people and would never sign such a document. I could no more tell them what to do than they could tell me.

The fourth question conflicts with question #2. On the one hand I am accused of not “firing backup shots to kill a buffalo” at the first opportunity and now I am accused of firing shots “on top of my clients.” Let me tell you this story. In 1997 I did not have a cameraman. Sensitive to the criticism that I shoot clients game “on their dime” I decided to experiment. I would not help a single client shoot his buffalo, except if one charged, and none did. The next three clients wounded five buffalo and all were lost. Each bull had an outside horn measurement greater than 40 inches with one I was sure would exceed 45 inches. All shots were standing broadside shots under 100 yards. The animals seemingly there for the taking and yet they were lost to die a horrible death in the bush. I ask you, “Is that what you want?” Do you wish me not to shoot so the animal runs off never to be found? I cannot believe any hunter wants that. I certainly do not. I believe we have an obligation to kill the animal as quickly and as humanely as possible.

In my movie Death by the TON, the young man’s statement deserves an explanation. I was perturbed you may say, but not for the reasons you state. This is where the way I hunt differs from how you hunt. The reason why I was disappointed is because the charging hippo was too far away to be shot. He was 21 feet away. In my opinion that is too far for a certain killing shot. My instructions to my client (before we entered the arena) were to wait until the hippo breaks the 10 foot barrier before shooting. He did not do that. I do not believe in shooting early. Twenty one feet is much too far. Why is it too far? It goes to the core of how I hunt dangerous game. I believe 10 feet is the correct distance to begin shooting; not 21 feet. It is all about the hunt, not the kill. At 10 feet it is hunting. At 21 feet it is killing. This is how I hunt. By the way, for those of you who have never stood just ten feet in front of a charging animal, there is not a lot of time to shoot. This is why it appears I am shooting “on top of my client” to the inexperienced. If you disagree that is fine. However, your disagreeing with me does not make you right. Conversely, these are solely my views. They do not make me correct either. I prefer to let my clients determine if my hunting method is right for them.

Tomorrow, Saturday, I leave for Tanzania to begin my 21st season. I will not be present to respond to your comments. If I have insulted any of you, please accept my full and complete apology. My intention is not to irritate. My writing manner is direct much like my manner and method of hunting. This is how I am made. It is what makes me—me. I have no trouble with those who disagree. But until you hunt with me you will never know me. I have more clients this year than I have ever had. I do not hold a gun to their heads to get them to sign up. They come to me willingly and leave as life-long friends. I welcome each and everyone one of you to do the same. Remember, shoot straight and let them come close!

In closing, I wish to personally thank those in support of my SCI situation. I know many of you have written SCI on my behalf. I cannot begin to thank you enough. I am humbled by your generosity. I am honored with your friendship. Recently I renewed my membership for an additional three years. Regardless of their treatment of me, I will continue to support SCI at every opportunity.

Great Hunting and Best Wishes,

Mark Sullivan
Professional Hunter

And help his clients feel alive if for just once in their lives.

quote:

Originally posted by BenKK:
Shawn, great photo! Please pass my best regards to Mark. I look forward to seeing this one in a film someday. Cheers, Ben

Hi Ben...glad you like the photo and I will pass on your comment. Always nice to hear from you Ben. I sent you a link via email last week. I hope it got through to you.

Cheers mate,
Shawn

quote:

One day I may die because of how I hunt dangerous game. So what! My clients (without exception) love it. They seek me out just as surely as we seek "death on the hoof." Yes, my client missed the brain; his bullet striking one of the two big bottom tusks. Of course he was disappointed with his shooting, but when asked if risking his life was worth the risk...he said yes!

Shakespeare once wrote; a fearful man dies a thousand deaths while a brave man dies but once! If Saeed and all his like-minded buddies were women their "periods" would never end!

One thing for certain; my critics will never get testicular cancer. None of them have any balls!

You can quote me on this!

Mark

Purposely enticing a wild animal to charge, and not getting yourself killed, is not “brave” in my book. Brave is the soldier or public servant or every day Joe that risks their life for another, or the cancer patient that undergoes agony in an effort to be around a while longer for his/her family, or the person alone and afraid standing on the edge but instead of jumping opts to meet the new day. Facing death does not by default make you brave.

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I feel neutral with this guy

I felt the same Jean, really no strong opinion one way or another noting I too enjoy getting in close, until I read the above. I am now of the opinion that he is a chump. By provoking a charge out of an animal who would rather be left alone, he defines himself as “brave”. Seriously? Exciting, adrenaline rush, test your metal, challenging, fun, never so alive as when close to death....all this I can buy and assuming legal and ethical goes under the category of “whatever floats your boat”. Ditto other styles or manners of hunting, or other activities where one CHOOSES to put their own life in danger. But seriously, he thinks taunting an animal into a charge defines he and his clients/followers as "BRAVE”???? Not in my book.

quote:

Originally posted by Bill C:

quote:

One day I may die because of how I hunt dangerous game. So what! My clients (without exception) love it. They seek me out just as surely as we seek "death on the hoof." Yes, my client missed the brain; his bullet striking one of the two big bottom tusks. Of course he was disappointed with his shooting, but when asked if risking his life was worth the risk...he said yes!

Shakespeare once wrote; a fearful man dies a thousand deaths while a brave man dies but once! If Saeed and all his like-minded buddies were women their "periods" would never end!

One thing for certain; my critics will never get testicular cancer. None of them have any balls!

You can quote me on this!

Mark

Purposely enticing a wild animal to charge, and not getting yourself killed, is not “brave” in my book. Brave is the soldier or public servant or every day Joe that risks their life for another, or the cancer patient that undergoes agony in an effort to be around a while longer for his/her family, or the person alone and afraid standing on the edge but instead of jumping opts to meet the new day. Facing death does not by default make you brave.

quote:

I feel neutral with this guy

I felt the same Jean, really no strong opinion one way or another noting I too enjoy getting in close, until I read the above. I am now of the opinion that he is a chump. By provoking a charge out of an animal who would rather be left alone, he defines himself as “brave”. Seriously? Exciting, adrenaline rush, test your metal, challenging, fun, never so alive as when close to death....all this I can buy and assuming legal and ethical goes under the category of “whatever floats your boat”. Ditto other styles or manners of hunting, or other activities where one CHOOSES to put their own life in danger. But seriously, he thinks taunting an animal into a charge defines he and his clients/followers as "BRAVE”???? Not in my book.

Now we are to be concerned with what the animals want out of us? I'm pretty sure, they would rather not be killed at all.

Just sayin.

Gentleman,

I know Mark not from hunting tripps, only from meetings, shows and shooting-lessons.
(Okay, from two hunts in Germany,m but this is not couting.)

He is an true hunter, a proofed PH and (as you say in the USA) a true american.

He has his own style, with is legal and ethical okay, like it or not.
Thats it.

Mark has also a great knowlegde of African wildlife, guns and shooting.
He brings the doubles and the hunting-videos back in the focus of the people.

For that, he is one of my personal role-models.

Best wishes from Africa.
(Im here on an hunting tripp, alone, without a PH.)

F.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Gentlemen,

I don't need to add anything.

Straight from his own mouth.

Read it, and tell me if this is coming from anyone with any common sense!

I have never, ever, met a REAL PH who likes what Mark Sullivan does.

It goes against the grain of being a PH to provoke an animal to charge.

Professional hunters I know are proud when a season finish, and they have not fired a single shot.

Our nitwit here makes himself the center of attention. He actually thinks he is playing to the same crowd who watch the trash Hollywood put out.

He has become blind to the reality of hunting.

When someone has his wits about him, there is absolutely no danger in hunting.

Bar some of the very sad accidents we hear about sometimes that do occur.

But, they are accidents.

Not acted out just so one man can claim he is the only one, without exception, who has the balls to stand his ground when an animal charges.

He likes us to somehow forget that he actually instigates these charges to feed his own ego.

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by Mark Sullivan
To members of AR, friends, and clients:

It gives me great pleasure to have this opportunity to write you. To the surprise of many, I have not purposely avoided this day. I am not as well versed in the computer arena as many of you, nor do I wish to be. I live a simple life. I have never tried or wanted to be a disruptive influence. I go about my business one day at a time. I infringe upon no one. I expect the same from others. I suppose this is why I am misunderstood. People believe I am aloof; and perhaps even arrogant. I am none of the above. My intentions are honorable, I assure you. For my critics on this forum I now answer your allegations against me.

I began my professional hunting career in Tanzania in 1990 at the age of 40. Then as now; I go about my business one day at a time. I offend no one. I am professional to everyone. I have no ax to grind and; no dog in the fight. As I did 20 years ago, I still, in my view, hunt for all of the right reasons and none of the bad as I have so often been accused. I do not hunt for the camera or to show off. I do not brag or boast. I instruct. I answer questions. I also write books. I make documentary hunting films that are responsible for thousands of hunters going on safari each year.

My movies evoke great emotion. Either you like them or you do not. Regardless of your emotions so invoked, they are true. The charges are real. If you watch them with an unbiased eye, you will notice no edits ever occur moments before or during a charge. In all cases, my clients shoot first. My shot always follows theirs. The footage is unaltered. It is authentic as it happens footage. Whether you like what you see or not is a different matter. The life and death events depicted on the screen cannot be denied. In the wild, everyday is kill or be killed, eat or be eaten. My films simply show this raw side of nature.

I suppose the reason why a great many people hate me and my movies, for lack of a better description, is I do what I do because it is who I am. Just as it may be your nature not to take chances, which makes you who and what you are. I love the confrontation. I seek it. I enjoy a fight to the death. I relish the idea that if I perform poorly I die a horrible death. I’m attracted to the cycle of life and death. I often try and get as close to death as I can, crossing the line if I choose, just to get a good whiff. Last season I enjoyed four outstanding life and death charges with as many clients. No cameraman was present. Each client came away with a life defining experience. Each one would do it again if given the opportunity.

I know my manner and method of hunting is controversial. Yet, in my opinion, it represents the finest hunting there is. I honor the life I am about to take by offering my life in return. I can offer no more and therefore give hunting my all. If I fail to kill, I die. It is as simple as that. If we are to believe in the sport we call “dangerous game hunting,” then why do so many do everything in their power to remove as much danger as possible? Why call it dangerous game? Why not call it “least dangerous” if the object is to remove all danger? Why criticize me for accepting the danger in our sport? I do not like killing. I do like hunting—there is a difference. Anyone can kill a wounded Cape buffalo standing his ground 40 yards away. In my opinion, to do so is killing. On the other hand, to walk up and let that magnificent animal decide how he is to die in battle is great hunting. If you lack courage that is something I cannot help you with. But to condemn me because I have the courage you lack is unfair and unjust.

For example, a client shoots and wounds a buffalo. Then the buffalo is allowed to run. The client and professional hunter sit down for 30 to 45 minutes to let the buffalo “stiffen.” Is the buffalo not suffering during this time? The buffalo is allowed to “stiffen” which is code word to die. Is that “dangerous game” hunting to you? I pursue my buffalo immediately, every time. I do not want to find him dead. I want him alive. I want him to charge to his death or mine should I fail to stop him. Killing is boring. Great hunting never is. This is who I am. While I am on this point of clients wounding dangerous game and how quickly I go after it, let me address the often-mentioned criticism that I not only risk my own life, but that of my client. Over the past 20 years I have been a professional hunter I have never had a client (or tracker) harmed by an animal being hunted. In every instance, I first obtain express permission from the client. More often than not, a client chooses me to hunt with because of the unique hunting experience I offer. A client knows I have the proven experience to close with dangerous game and correctly books his safari. If the truth be known, I make a pretty good insurance policy.

Mr. Kim Petersen posted a letter addressed to me. I wish to answer his allegations.

The first is I intentionally wound buffalo so as to prompt them into charging. This is not true. I instruct my clients to always make the best possible shot. The indisputable fact is clients shoot poorly and nothing will ever change that reality. Coupled with the fact buffalo are notoriously difficult to kill, these two conditions make hunting them a challenge. I know many of you have killed buffalo with one shot. That is not the norm. Buffalo take a great deal of killing. I know. I have the experience to prove it. The notion that I use a .22 to shoot buffalo in the balls is not worth the effort I am about to make to dispute it, but here it goes anyway. I do not know where you hunt your buffalo. Where I hunt my buffalo the grass, bush, trees, and every other obstacle God created obscures most parts of a buffalo anyhow. In 20 years I do not recall ever seeing the testicles of a buffalo before he was shot nor have I ever had any inclination to try and shoot them. What is the point? For those who have no penchant for ever doing what I do, I can only imagine their minds race wild with things that don’t matter. If you want a buffalo to charge, put yourself in front of him, let him see you, then walk directly at him. The notion that I would waste my time using a .22 should embarrass those spreading the rumor.

The second question is more of a statement than a question. After a client takes his shot on dangerous game, I determine whether or not a backup shot is necessary or even possible. The last thing I want is for a wounded animal to get away. Contrary to what I have been accused of, I do fire backup shots quickly. More often than not, I have been blamed for firing too quickly, too often. I shoot as a backup for a number of reasons. Clients demand that I do. I determine they need help by observing their skills or lack thereof. If I am filming I believe more gun shots are better than fewer gun shots. I remember purchasing a hunting movie where I waited 45 minutes to hear the first gun shot. That may be the kind of movie you like to watch, but not me.

The second part of this is I “taunt my prey…for the purpose of filming a charge.” While this statement seems logical to the inexperienced, it is precisely for that reason why it is not true. Let me explain. An inexperienced client, or equally inexperienced professional hunter, wrongly believes that in order to get a wounded buffalo to charge, you must first “taunt” him. The very fact that someone says this tells me he has limited dangerous game experience and does not know what he says. His knowledge of wounded buffalo behavior is incomplete or simply nonexistent. Let me set the record straight. There are two kinds of buffalo; those that run and those that charge. Ninety-five percent of all wounded buffalo fall into the first category. Those that run will never charge. They are cowards and no amount of campfire story telling will change that fact. The five percent that charge do not have to be taunted at all. The moment it sees you they charge. The idea that it must be taunted into charging is simply untrue. The mere fact that you have violated their personal space by being there is enough to set them off. What is not known beforehand is which kind of buffalo you are confronting. I have never had a buffalo that first runs away, later turn and charge. In my new book “Fear No Death” I go into great detail about this and much more. Anyone interested in knowing what I know should obtain a copy.

The third item, “my clients must sign a non-disclosure agreement” is a new one. I marvel at the creativity of the Mark Sullivan haters of the world. It reminds me when people say my cajones are the size of grapefruit. While I am sure they are trying to flatter me, I later set the record straight and confessed they are the size of watermelons. Directing a client not to talk about his safari with Mark Sullivan would be like trying to tell your wife she can’t go shopping. My clients are highly educated professional people and would never sign such a document. I could no more tell them what to do than they could tell me.

The fourth question conflicts with question #2. On the one hand I am accused of not “firing backup shots to kill a buffalo” at the first opportunity and now I am accused of firing shots “on top of my clients.” Let me tell you this story. In 1997 I did not have a cameraman. Sensitive to the criticism that I shoot clients game “on their dime” I decided to experiment. I would not help a single client shoot his buffalo, except if one charged, and none did. The next three clients wounded five buffalo and all were lost. Each bull had an outside horn measurement greater than 40 inches with one I was sure would exceed 45 inches. All shots were standing broadside shots under 100 yards. The animals seemingly there for the taking and yet they were lost to die a horrible death in the bush. I ask you, “Is that what you want?” Do you wish me not to shoot so the animal runs off never to be found? I cannot believe any hunter wants that. I certainly do not. I believe we have an obligation to kill the animal as quickly and as humanely as possible.

In my movie Death by the TON, the young man’s statement deserves an explanation. I was perturbed you may say, but not for the reasons you state. This is where the way I hunt differs from how you hunt. The reason why I was disappointed is because the charging hippo was too far away to be shot. He was 21 feet away. In my opinion that is too far for a certain killing shot. My instructions to my client (before we entered the arena) were to wait until the hippo breaks the 10 foot barrier before shooting. He did not do that. I do not believe in shooting early. Twenty one feet is much too far. Why is it too far? It goes to the core of how I hunt dangerous game. I believe 10 feet is the correct distance to begin shooting; not 21 feet. It is all about the hunt, not the kill. At 10 feet it is hunting. At 21 feet it is killing. This is how I hunt. By the way, for those of you who have never stood just ten feet in front of a charging animal, there is not a lot of time to shoot. This is why it appears I am shooting “on top of my client” to the inexperienced. If you disagree that is fine. However, your disagreeing with me does not make you right. Conversely, these are solely my views. They do not make me correct either. I prefer to let my clients determine if my hunting method is right for them.

Tomorrow, Saturday, I leave for Tanzania to begin my 21st season. I will not be present to respond to your comments. If I have insulted any of you, please accept my full and complete apology. My intention is not to irritate. My writing manner is direct much like my manner and method of hunting. This is how I am made. It is what makes me—me. I have no trouble with those who disagree. But until you hunt with me you will never know me. I have more clients this year than I have ever had. I do not hold a gun to their heads to get them to sign up. They come to me willingly and leave as life-long friends. I welcome each and everyone one of you to do the same. Remember, shoot straight and let them come close!

In closing, I wish to personally thank those in support of my SCI situation. I know many of you have written SCI on my behalf. I cannot begin to thank you enough. I am humbled by your generosity. I am honored with your friendship. Recently I renewed my membership for an additional three years. Regardless of their treatment of me, I will continue to support SCI at every opportunity.

Great Hunting and Best Wishes,

Mark Sullivan
Professional Hunter

There is an old adage that applies to Mark's very well written post, that I'm quite sure he believes every word of! It reads "Other people rarely see us as we see ourselves!"
That is true in spades with Mark in my opinion!

quote:

Originally posted by tysue:
Expressyourself. Looks like I was wrong about where the hippo picture from. Kinda looked like the one charging out of the pool. Point was, that others commented on Marks hunting style, etc., without having seen any of his videos. I have only seen clips from them myself, but the clips show his style etc. I personally might or might not want to engage in that kind of shoot. Also, who says the client is paying for the cameraman? I'm sure it isn't the client, as Mark is marketing the movies from the filming, so presume he is going to be in it more than the client. In my opinion, shooting dg like mark does not different than someone who doesn't even understand what hunting means, shooting a deer or Elk from 800 yds with a "long range" rifle, or someone setting in a tree, and ambushing a deer. They're both incompetent to get down on the ground and actually hunt the animal. Or, and I've heard this said by some "hunters" no one can stalk a deer and walk and stop doesn't work (sure did for a couple 100 years). Anyway, my post was not taking Marks part, so much as saying, if you haven't at least seen his films, and KNOW from them what's going on, shouldn't be making comments about it.

tysue...The photo could easily be mistaken. I just wanted you to know. I also understand your point.

Best always,
Shawn

Now we are to be concerned with what the animals want out of us? I'm pretty sure, they would rather not be killed at all.

Just sayin.[/QUOTE]

+1

quote:

Originally posted by Hunting the Box H:
Shawn
Do I take it that Shawn Sullivan may make a move towards filling Marks shoes when he decides to retire or finally meets his match?

Cheers
Ian

Hi Ian,

Shawn (Sullivan) is in the field with Mark occasionally and has done so for some time. I can’t really comment about his plans Ian.

Cheers,
Shawn

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Originally posted by buckeyeshooter:

quote:

Originally posted by Thomasjohn:
The hippo looks like it just woke up from a nap.

Might be why he is grouchy. I don't like to be rudely awakened either!

quote:

Originally posted by Nganga:
The fools that ridicule. Most sports have fragmented factions within them. Marks DG style is just that: a small faction that likes the thrill, the possibility of a confrontation.

Hunting buffalo from 100 yards is no more dangerous that shooting a Tommy at 300 yards.

If Mark chose to not confront, he has that option, his option means (with buffalo) to follow up immediately, to approach from the front. making the buffalo either charge or run.

It's really no more difficult than that.

As far a shooting clients game, he must decide to either shoot or let a client get run over. What would you choose Jerry? you obviously feel talented enough in these matters to conduct your own Bongo hunt.

If a man chooses to climb K2 or Everest is he also a fool? or has he chosen to live by his own measure not to allow society to decide which box to live within. Isn't this activity also putting ones life at stake for really no other purpose than the primal desire for adrenaline?

Mark Sullivan is his own man, much more than I can say for the following sycophants on this forum and others. You need not agree with his style to offer respect.

which would i choose? shoot the SOB at 21 feet, 25 feet, 50 feet. this whole bullshit he espoused about waiting until 10 feet as the correct thing to do leaves no room for error- hence the need to double tap him simultaneously. i suppose he would let a charging elephant close to 10 feet then brain him- and hope it's momentum didn't cause it to fall on him or his client. i can see the title now- TEMBO AT 10 FEET.... and BTW, does he allow a charging lion to get to 10 feet to assure correct shot placement????