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Originally posted by MJines:
Zahir,

Hi. I have posted on this forum before that I hunted with Usangu prior to its collapse. While on our hunt there were early warning signs of impending issues, like ending up in Usangu and not the Selous as we had booked, we nevertheless had a successful and enjoyable hunt and our trophies were exported. I also met other hunters in camp some of whom have become very dear friends.

In the spirit of trying to be helpful, I thought I would offer some friendly suggestions, take them or leave them, your call:

1. Be upfront. For example, you have yet to acknowledge on this forum that EuroAfroGroup is in fact you. If you are posting, just acknowledge that fact. Don't refer to yourself in the third person. It comes across as being disingenuous and deceptive. If this group and these posts are not being made by you, have whoever is doing them tell who they are. Similarly, on your website there is no disclosure regarding who EuroAfroGroup is. Yes, there is some general and vague reference to an investment group, but no information regarding the principals. I think most folks will view this lack of disclosure very suspiciously. They say here, sunshine is the best disinfectant. Laying out all the facts, who is who, and being transparent will do nothing but help. Trying to be vague and opaque are only going to make things worse.

2. When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. Clearly this debate is not going away nor is going your way. Let it go. Stop feeling each tit deserves a tat. Unless and until someone that feels that they were unfairly treated or cheated comes on here and says the problem has been rectified, general statements about working on positive solutions are just going to keep the debate alive.

3. Make things right. If you are really interested in getting back into the business, you have find a way to wipe the slate clean with former clients. In this day and age of the internet and in a business that is as small as the African hunting business, I think it will be impossible to fly under the radar screen. Information travels way too fast. Saying you intend to make things right and doing so are two very different things. People will be looking for some positive sign that progress is actually being made.

Again, I am not trying to pile on, just offer some constructive advice. I wish you the best in getting your new operation up and running.

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of those fees, there are few clients who did not pay trophy fees worth nearly $50k.

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Originally posted by Bwana Bunduki:
Mike,

I am usually on the same page with on virtually all of your posts.
Having said that who should be made whole in your opinion? Hundreds of thousands of dollars was stolen from fellow hunters.

How about the skinners, camp staff and trackers that were never paid?

How about the Professional Hunters who were never paid?

How about the vendors and shop keepers who were defrauded?

How about the Tanzanian Game Department not receiving trophy fees?

Just wondered about your thoughts on these people as well.

Zahir for 7 years has been missing two critical words throughout this whole mess.

I'm Sorry.... Never heard it never will.

Jeff

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Originally posted by jimmara:
To be honest the only reason you are apologizing now and willing to try make things right is that you back in the hunting game. Without doing this you know you have no chance of booking any hunts or very few from some people who don't know better. If you were not getting back into the game you would not be apologizing or trying to make things right. You can't use future safaris money to pay off old debts it cannot work.stealing from Peter to pay Paul .if you have a bad season there won't be any money to pay for the current hunters trophies and the whole cycle starts again.I fell sorry for anyone who books through you

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Thier own website seems to be down.

Not sure if this is temporary or they might have taken it down themselves - and might re-appear with a new name.

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Originally posted by Bwana Bunduki:
post an email address that is valid so I can send you the information....

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Originally posted by EuroAfroGroup:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Thier own website seems to be down.

Not sure if this is temporary or they might have taken it down themselves - and might re-appear with a new name.

Our sites are up and names will not change.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by EuroAfroGroup:

Our sites are up and names will not change.

The only euroafrogroup site I can find has nothing to do with hunting!!

Can you give us a link to your website?

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Originally posted by EuroAfroGroup:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by EuroAfroGroup:

Our sites are up and names will not change.

The only euroafrogroup site I can find has nothing to do with hunting!!

Can you give us a link to your website?

www.hunt-tanzania.com

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Originally posted by Leopard Slayer:

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Originally posted by EuroAfroGroup:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by EuroAfroGroup:

Our sites are up and names will not change.

The only euroafrogroup site I can find has nothing to do with hunting!!

Can you give us a link to your website?

www.hunt-tanzania.com

One assumes that the photographs on your website are those taken of game in the hunting areas pertaining to Kimisi and Liparambe Reserves though I feel it would be more appropriate from a marketing point of view to define which photos apply to which area.

The Lion in the grass and solitary bull elephant in the plain are quite something!

From some of your earlier postings you have stated that a 100lbs elephant had been taken though no photos have been submitted. You realize of course that photos of this elephant would have mesmerizing effects and draw the attention of any prospective elephant-orientated hunter.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
May be you should read the thread on deceptive advertising.

Or you might wish to explain that those photos were taken by other compnaies on that concession.

Because I understand that you are just starting your hunts on these concession, so posting photos of other compnaies trophies is not really kosher.

If I am mistaken, please explain it to us.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
May be you should read the thread on deceptive advertising.

Or you might wish to explain that those photos were taken by other compnaies on that concession.

Because I understand that you are just starting your hunts on these concession, so posting photos of other compnaies trophies is not really kosher.

If I am mistaken, please explain it to us.

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Originally posted by Bwana Bunduki:
Zahir,

You have been copied with the appropriate information at the email address you provided. I will withhold posting further information pending your response.

Hint: DHL delivers five days a week.

Jeff

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Originally posted by Leopard Slayer:
The pictured elephant in the plains resembles the 'Old Man of the Crater' who has been around for many years, of which many a postcard has been printed and the genetics on that lion strongly suggests he is part of the Serengeti clans.

Maybe the gentleman poster who goes by the name of Bwanamich, resident expert on lions in northern Tanzania in particular, may have some comment to offer in this regard.

Could you also let us know the inside story about the baited tree if, as you say, there has been no organized, authorized hunting in the area.

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We stated to view photos in the gallery and not on website pages.

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Originally posted by Bwana Bunduki:
Received word from Zahir today. The word is not good. Doesn't have the money to repay me. Denies owing the money. Asked for time?

Jeff

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Originally posted by David Culpepper:
Not surprised. From what he was saying that they wanted to reach a mutually agreeable resolution with everyone, money was not agreeable with him. Sounded like he wanted all to accept some hunt instead which my guess would have been for lesser animals then original hunts were contracted for. Besides who in the hell would trust him to accept a hunt, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

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Originally posted by EuroAfroGroup:

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Originally posted by Bwana Bunduki:
Received word from Zahir today. The word is not good. Doesn't have the money to repay me. Denies owing the money. Asked for time?

Jeff

Jeff, per your email today you did not pay directly to tawico for your hunt, you paid a 3rd party. On my communications to you today I said I am waiting on confirmation from tawico about your payment before I can make a proposal.

Good Hunting,

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Originally posted by David Culpepper:

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Originally posted by EuroAfroGroup:

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Originally posted by Bwana Bunduki:
Received word from Zahir today. The word is not good. Doesn't have the money to repay me. Denies owing the money. Asked for time?

Jeff

Jeff, per your email today you did not pay directly to tawico for your hunt, you paid a 3rd party. On my communications to you today I said I am waiting on confirmation from tawico about your payment before I can make a proposal.

Lets see he paid you for a hunt and he paid someone else for the hunt. You did not pay anyone to conduct the hunt. Time for you to shut up any pony up the money you stole.

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Originally posted by Bwana Bunduki:
Yep. Just made all this up. Wasted my time sullied my reputation. I guess I just what?...needed attention.

Complete BullShit.

Tiem to start Posting.

Jeff

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Originally posted by EuroAfroGroup:

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Originally posted by Bwana Bunduki:
Yep. Just made all this up. Wasted my time sullied my reputation. I guess I just what?...needed attention.

Complete BullShit.

Tiem to start Posting.

Jeff

I can post email from tawico today here if you like.

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Originally posted by Bwana Bunduki:

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Originally posted by EuroAfroGroup:

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Originally posted by Bwana Bunduki:
Yep. Just made all this up. Wasted my time sullied my reputation. I guess I just what?...needed attention.

Complete BullShit.

Tiem to start Posting.

Jeff

I can post email from tawico today here if you like.

Feel Free. I agree with the content I am sure. What is doesn't explain is where the $38,800 went. Also the money was paid on behlh of one of your many jilted debtors to TAWICO who I reimbured. Post what you like. You are not going to strengten you case or come out any better. Post it and let the people here decide for themselves. Remember I posted emails from TAWICO, Jack Brittingham and their accountant that you Zahir Mulla paid nothing of the $38,800 you scraped off of me. Post Away.
Jeff