quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
What happened to Francoline Safaris?

I saw today Francolin Safaris in the Madrid show " Cinegetica" with their own booth together with Spanish hunting agency Del Coso Outfitters.
Mr. Abdul i believe was in the booth !

And sorry i forgot that Mark Sullivan was also in the Madrid show and believe me he was really having a great succes ! He was the man of the show !

I'll bet Zahir wishes he had never heard of AR.

Larry
I have to say, he's a gluton for punishment.

Cecil:

He deserves all the punishment he gets. It most certainly has not been remotely close to enough. They stole a hell of a lot of money. They put peoples lives in danger.

If he was Pinocchio, I will bet his nose would cross the Kenyan border. Lies, lies and more lies.

It is a shame. At one time, they had a good reputation.

By the way, am I blind or has Zahir's hunt offered for sale totally disappeared from the forum? I feel fairly certain he hasn't sold any hunts here.

quote:
Originally posted by jjbull:

quote:
Originally posted by Safari2:
Zahir..better hang it up now and move on to something else!


Right after you pay Jeff and Larry the money owed them.


Ya , just after he pays everybody and not only Jeff and Larry!!
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That is going to be a very very long list

Correct, samir, and my apologies for leaving you off the list. But on AR, I am only concerned with AR. Call it tunnel vision, I guess.

So, we have samir, Jeff and Larry so far. Who have I missed (on AR only, please) that still needs to be paid by Zahir?

quote:

Originally posted by larryshores:
By the way, am I blind or has Zahir's hunt offered for sale totally disappeared from the forum? I feel fairly certain he hasn't sold any hunts here.

I removed it because it did not meet with our conditions for posting.

I think he might have not read our rules.

We are offering that Forum for the benefit of both prospective hunters and outfitters.

It is free advertising.

And if the outfitters can take a minute and read our very simple rules and follow them, their offers will be deleted.

Well,

I got a message that Francoline Safaris is run by someone who was involved with Usangu.

Not sure how true this is though.

If I remember correctly, I think I saw some photos of PH's with Francoline Safaris that worked for Usangu. I also thought Francoline was related to Zahir or Usangu somehow.

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:
Well,

I got a message that Francoline Safaris is run by someone who was involved with Usangu.

Not sure how true this is though.

I seem to recall hearing or reading the same thing. Not sure where.

Saeed:

We were right. The following was posted to the Hunting Report in 09. Sorry, I didn't have time to get the entire article.

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In Tanzania, there are scores of hunters who never received their trophies from Zahir Mulla of Usangu Safaris. Continuing subscribers know we have been following the problems with Usangu over the last few years. During the 2007 safari season, we received a rash of complaints from hunters - some on their SAT phone while still in the field - about the way their hunts were being conducted. Others sent written complaints about delays with trophy shipments and problems with refunds for trophies that were never shot. Eventually, the problems were so bad and the complaints abundant enough that Safari Club International sanctioned Zahir Mulla and banned him and anyone else associated with Usangu Safaris from the convention or other SCI events and programs. That ban extended to Abdul Mulla, Zahir's brother, who had left the company due to a familial dispute. Abdul Mulla had gone on his own, creating the company Francolin Safaris. Usangu Safaris stopped operating last year when its Usangu Flats concession, the only concession it had left, was absorbed into a national park. In the meantime, Abdul Mulla has been struggling to disassociate himself from Usangu and his brother's problems.

This rather long re-mention of Usangu Safari's woes, is a roundabout way of telling you that all those trophies from past Usangu clients finally are to be released. According to Abdul Mulla, he has negotiated a deal with the Tanzanian government to unite those trophies with the hunters who shot them. To do that, he says he is personally ponying up the money to pay for the trophy fees his brother never paid. Why is he willing to do this? Because he wants to clear his name of the fiasco and get back into SCI's good graces and of course the annual convention.

In order to get the trophies released, Abdul will need copies of paid invoices showing hunting dates and trophies taken from hunters who never received their trophies. Any copies of hunting licenses would be helpful too. I am collecting this information and passing it to Abdul's representative in the US, who is coordinating with........(continued)

We stated what we will do. We did contact all clients that we had contact information.

We continue to say we will do what we can to make things right for affected clients.

This will be our last post related to this topic. A lot of posts are just reposting what has been public for a long time and nothing new.

If anyone is willing to contact us through proper channels we will work with them to resolve any issues.

quote:

Originally posted by EuroAfroGroup:
If anyone is willing to contact us through proper channels we will work with them to resolve any issues.

Does that include referring them to a competent psychiatrist to resolve mental issues? They will surely need psychiatric help if they are inclined to book with you.

quote:

Originally posted by EuroAfroGroup:
We stated what we will do. We did contact all clients that we had contact information.

We continue to say we will do what we can to make things right for affected clients.

This will be our last post related to this topic. A lot of posts are just reposting what has been public for a long time and nothing new.

If anyone is willing to contact us through proper channels we will work with them to resolve any issues.

If those people have hunted with you so many years ago, why don't YOU get in contact with them to put things right?

quote:

Originally posted by Saeed:

If those people have hunted with you so many years ago, why don't YOU get in contact with them to put things right?

We have contacted several clients who we had their contacts. Some contacts have changed. Of those we contacted 5 have agreed with us on a solution. Some will make decision later this year after receiving feedback from clients hunting this year.

For those whom we don't have contact information can contact us. We have been in contact with some clients for over a year now.

How much more contact do you need Zahir?
I am right here. Where everyone can see. Why do you need private emails? This is a great time for you to start to clear your name.

Great news! I just found a copy of the contract between usangu Safari's and my friend Phil.
You know the one for $250,000 that was loaned to Usangu and never repaid.

Guess what Zahir????

Your signature is on it.

Thought you didn't know anything about it?

Jackass.

Will post later as honest, ethical productive work becons.

Jeff

If one sits back and looks at this, it is interesting.

Reputable safari companies like to discuss their past track record. Zahir doesn't, although he admits there were issues just not all the issues.

Zahir blames his family while his family is trying to clear their name. Hmmmmm........

It would be interesting to know exactly what happened to all that money. Euro Afro is supposed to be an investment group. If they have money to invest, why can't they pay back the money taken?

Does anyone know what happened to Fronterhouse or whatever his name is?

quote:

Originally posted by Bwana Bunduki:
Great news! I just found a copy of the contract between usangu Safari's and my friend Phil.
You know the one for $250,000 that was loaned to Usangu and never repaid.

Guess what Zahir????

Your signature is on it.

Thought you didn't know anything about it?

Jackass.

Will post later as honest, ethical productive work becons.

Jeff

Jeff don't twist facts. On your earlier post you mentioned that was part of 2005 or 2006. Which I stated was not the case.

My signature may have been on it as part of agreement between Phil and usangu owner in relations to tawico.

So, don't twist facts. Still waiting for your original contract with usangu along with proof that you paid twice. I need proof you paid tawico for services in relations to your original contract with usangu.

We are waiting for the requested information.

We will only post to correct misleading information. We are open to discuss and be open to affected clients and potential clients.

We will use more reputable media to clear our name. We will not use media with biased opinions along with twisting facts.

quote:

Originally posted by larryshores:
If one sits back and looks at this, it is interesting.

Reputable safari companies like to discuss their past track record. Zahir doesn't, although he admits there were issues just not all the issues.

Zahir blames his family while his family is trying to clear their name. Hmmmmm........

It would be interesting to know exactly what happened to all that money. Euro Afro is supposed to be an investment group. If they have money to invest, why can't they pay back the money taken?

Does anyone know what happened to Fronterhouse or whatever his name is?

Fronterhouse was investigated by the US FBI and no action was take. Don't know what that means. No remedy was found for the guys that paid Fronterhouse.

Jeff

quote:

Originally posted by EuroAfroGroup:

This will be our last post related to this topic. A lot of posts are just reposting what has been public for a long time and nothing new.

Hmmm?

It may be YOUR las tpost, but I am a damn long way from done with this. Posting the first set of "TWISTED FACTS" now. LMAO.

Jeff

Ah another set of "tiwsted Facts" I am no contract law attorney but when Zahir Mulla of Usangu Safaris borrows $250,000USD and doesn't repay it....





Clearly Zahir is the guarantor for this loan. Still looking for the tiwsted facts.

I redacted some of my friends info as I didn't seek his permission to enjoin this level of mudslinging.

So Zahir what aspect of contract law, morals or ethics allows you in your convoluted logic to claim no responsibility for this.

The word Sociopath is starting to apply here more and more.

Jeff

PS: I have lots more regarding my own issue to post as well.

Low and behold their website disappeared... The wicked witch of the east Africa made it disappear.
African mojo

http://euroafrogroup.com/contactus.html

Mike

Oops. Your signature page came out upside down. How appropriate. Think I will leave it.

Bwana, "Keep the heat on..."Damn the torpedoes full speed ahead."


Mike

quote:

Originally posted by EuroAfroGroup:
Will update you on the progress as we move forward.

Forward ... Hmmm, forward ... where have I heard that word before?

And how did that work out for the USA?

Very appropriate wording Zahir, congratulations, you nailed it!

Zahir

It is very disheartening to see such a fine, if misunderstood, operator getting slaughtered here.

I would recommend you get an American agent to help you move forward. There is a like minded, equally ethical person I would like to recommend to you for a business partner, Llamapacket AKA Bill Phifer. You two should make great partners,

Then you can hire a know it all sPokesman, oh, say Mark Watts to promote this new venture.

What can possibly go wrong?

quote:

Originally posted by Bwana Bunduki:
Ah another set of "tiwsted Facts" I am no contract law attorney but when Zahir Mulla of Usangu Safaris borrows $250,000USD and doesn't repay it....

Clearly Zahir is the guarantor for this loan. Still looking for the tiwsted facts.

I redacted some of my friends info as I didn't seek his permission to enjoin this level of mudslinging.

So Zahir what aspect of contract law, morals or ethics allows you in your convoluted logic to claim no responsibility for this.

The word Sociopath is starting to apply here more and more.

Jeff

PS: I have lots more regarding my own issue to post as well.

I am not able to view it, but most likely that was done before usangu and tawico split. I further mentioned that Phil and tawico and relevant parties met to discuss their situation, and I was not part of that discussion.

I believe Phil and others continue with tawico until the take over of tawico by another entity.

So Jeff, I will continue to say you are posting misleading information.

I am sure Jeff, Larry, will continue to post as they may see fit perhaps for their personal reasons.

We will not post further unless to clarify misleading information.

We will discuss the matters with relevant affected clients who will contact us through relevant channels.

quote:

Originally posted by EuroAfroGroup:

quote:

Originally posted by Bwana Bunduki:
Ah another set of "tiwsted Facts" I am no contract law attorney but when Zahir Mulla of Usangu Safaris borrows $250,000USD and doesn't repay it....

Clearly Zahir is the guarantor for this loan. Still looking for the tiwsted facts.

I redacted some of my friends info as I didn't seek his permission to enjoin this level of mudslinging.

So Zahir what aspect of contract law, morals or ethics allows you in your convoluted logic to claim no responsibility for this.

The word Sociopath is starting to apply here more and more.

Jeff

PS: I have lots more regarding my own issue to post as well.

I am not able to view it, but most likely that was done before usangu and tawico split. I further mentioned that Phil and tawico and relevant parties met to discuss their situation, and I was not part of that discussion.

I believe Phil and others continue with tawico until the take over of tawico by another entity.

So Jeff, I will continue to say you are posting misleading information.

THAT IS YOUR SIGNATURE

HOW IN THE HELL IS THAT MISLEADING?????????

quote:

Originally posted by EuroAfroGroup:
I am sure Jeff, Larry, will continue to post as they may see fit perhaps for their personal reasons.

We will not post further unless to clarify misleading information.

We will discuss the matters with relevant affected clients who will contact us through relevant channels.

Jeff and Larry are two clients who have been royally clobbered by Usangu.

What information have they posted that is misleading?

quote:

Originally posted by EuroAfroGroup:
I am sure Jeff, Larry, will continue to post as they may see fit perhaps for their personal reasons.

Yup, I agree. I am pretty sure Jeff's $40,000 is a personal reason to him. I am sure that Larry being f'ed over by you is pretty personal to him.

I think Zahir believes his own bull shit.

One has to wonder how someone like this can get a safari area in TZ.

quote:

Originally posted by larryshores:
If one sits back and looks at this, it is interesting.

Reputable safari companies like to discuss their past track record. Zahir doesn't, although he admits there were issues just not all the issues.

Zahir blames his family while his family is trying to clear their name. Hmmmmm........

Larry, Zahir never said he would not discuss the situation. We said we will discuss the matter with affected clients through direct communications.

Furthermore, Zahir did not blame family. However, Zahir will only discuss matters relating to usangu clients through direct communications.

We will make our progress public through relevant, reputable, and unbiased media.

Some posts in here are posted with information taken out of context.

quote:

Originally posted by larryshores:

quote:

Originally posted by EuroAfroGroup:
I am sure Jeff, Larry, will continue to post as they may see fit perhaps for their personal reasons.

Yup, I agree. I am pretty sure Jeff's $40,000 is a personal reason to him. I am sure that Larry being f'ed over by you is pretty personal to him.

I think Zahir believes his own bull shit.

One has to wonder how someone like this can get a safari area in TZ.

Larry, were you an usangu client? If you are among affected clients, feel free to contact us.

As for Jeff, we are waiting for requested information from him before we can respond to his claims.

Areas are given to companies that met the requirements as stipulated by law.

quote:

Originally posted by EuroAfroGroup:

quote:

Originally posted by larryshores:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by EuroAfroGroup:
I am sure Jeff, Larry, will continue to post as they may see fit perhaps for their personal reasons.

Yup, I agree. I am pretty sure Jeff's $40,000 is a personal reason to him. I am sure that Larry being f'ed over by you is pretty personal to him.

I think Zahir believes his own bull shit.

One has to wonder how someone like this can get a safari area in TZ.

Larry, were you an usangu client? If you are among affected clients, feel free to contact us.

As for Jeff, we are waiting for requested information from him before we can respond to his claims.

Areas are given to companies that met the requirements as stipulated by law.[/QUOTE

The information is posted here. Why does it need to be emailed again? Besides anything I email will be posted here anyway.

Jeff

quote:

Originally posted by Bwana Bunduki:

quote:

Originally posted by EuroAfroGroup:

quote:

Originally posted by Bwana Bunduki:
Ah another set of "tiwsted Facts" I am no contract law attorney but when Zahir Mulla of Usangu Safaris borrows $250,000USD and doesn't repay it....

Clearly Zahir is the guarantor for this loan. Still looking for the tiwsted facts.

I redacted some of my friends info as I didn't seek his permission to enjoin this level of mudslinging.

So Zahir what aspect of contract law, morals or ethics allows you in your convoluted logic to claim no responsibility for this.

The word Sociopath is starting to apply here more and more.

Jeff

PS: I have lots more regarding my own issue to post as well.

I am not able to view it, but most likely that was done before usangu and tawico split. I further mentioned that Phil and tawico and relevant parties met to discuss their situation, and I was not part of that discussion.

I believe Phil and others continue with tawico until the take over of tawico by another entity.

So Jeff, I will continue to say you are posting misleading information.

THAT IS YOUR SIGNATURE

HOW IN THE HELL IS THAT MISLEADING?????????

It is misleading because it was done before usangu and tawico split, and it had to do with agreement Phil and others came to. Those funds were not sent to me. Phil wanted my signature since I was doing marketing for then usangu/tawico.