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We are aware of the uphill battle in all of this. what we are trying to do is make things right if anyone was affected no matter who was responsible. Some may take chances, and others may not. We believe in the end, it will be a win win situation for everyone. It takes years to build a good reputation, and it takes 1 second to destroy one. As humans, we tend to forget the good things, but only remember the bad. we are not here to reach everyone nor to persuade everyone. We are here only get in touch with interested parties and those who are willing to explore on new areas that have not been hunted before. Our philosophy is to conserve wildlife and give people opportunity to explore new areas with new organization. Everyone goes through up and downs in life. Just because one is down, does not mean we should not try and prove ourselves otherwise. | |||
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AR members are not digging old graves; they're digging a new one. How does it fit? | |||
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It's amazing how many reputable operators lost their concetions and people with bad reps got areas.Just goes to show how corruption will always play a part in Africa | |||
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Some people here are just posting to post and commenting without knowing all the facts on the ground. | |||
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I don't believe corruption had anything to do with it. Tanzania had a new law stating that the rights should be given to Tanzanians first before anyone else. The law required the allocation of blocks should constitute 85% Tanzanians, and 15% foreign entities. For that reason, I believe a lot of foreign companies did not make the cut. The government for the first time was looking out for Tanzanians interests to benefit Tanzanians with their own natural resources. Also, I don't believe there is a truly an angel outfitter or a hunter out there. | |||
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Here is your chance to tell us all the facts. I am sure many would like to know what they are. | |||
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the above is a brief on a whole multitude of factors. we will be open to more details for clients who are interested. clients are welcomed to contact us and here the other side of the story. we don't believe in discussing publicly what were all the factors. however we will gladly share information with clients who contact us. we are not here to get sympathy or justification, but to let clients know something can be worked out for those willing. we are here to let clients know that there is our side of story. once both sides are known, we believe some people not all will come up with a different point view. for others, they see colors as they want. blue can be green for them, and they will stick to that opinion. | |||
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Why don't you give us an example of where you made things "right" for a client who got screwed? I think that would help your case a lot more! | |||
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recently i sent trophies for two clients. one is coming back this for a trophy replacement hunt. another client is also coming on trophy replacement hunt this year. 3 clients who deposited money with usangu and did not hunt are scheduled to hunt next year with their full amounts of deposits are credited towards their hunts. so, a total of 5 clients are giving us a chance once they knew our side. i cannot disclose their names in public forums for privacy reasons. however there contact information is given to clients who are considering those options. some of these clients did report to hunting report on their progress. | |||
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EAG/Mambatz/Zahir Whatever Hilary Daffi did or did not do is irrelevant to the thread. This is about Zahir & Usangu. Posting old news that has nothing to do with Usangu/Zahir is a little bit like a bank robber's defense being that the teller he robbed was once arrested. It is irrelevant. You don't post names here for "privacy reasons" then want us to post names. Why don't you crawl back under the rock you came from. | |||
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Perhaps you would like me to post the entire file that I sent to SCI Ethics to get your ass kicked out of SCI Zahir? It would include of course emails between you and I. Testimony from other clients you fucked and a very nice video showing an 2 year old lion shot from the truck, hunting at night shooting vultures and other assorted illegal Lacy Act violations. Sure you want to go down this road? Jeff | |||
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I am not sure who is mambatz. I believe he/she is just another AR user who is posting his opinions like the rest. For that reason, that is why we choose to discuss our matters and not anyone elses matters. And for this reason, that is why we are interested to dealing with clients who are affected and clients who are interested in our offer. Discussing the matters to anyone else not affected and not of interest is really irrelevant. In terms of privacy, we cannot give out clients names to the public who are dealing with us without their concent. Some people want their contact information or name references to remain private. However, before I give the references, I do ask for their permission first. Most of them have been willing. and I am not sure if any of them are AR users. | |||
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I will tell you what. I will sell you the video made by your videographar who rolled over on you and your entire SCI Ethics Violations file for $40,000 USD. Do we have a deal? | |||
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Zahir, I also have the clints names and contacts that posted their awful experiences on your friend "The Hunting Report" Would you like me to post their comment and contact information? That would seem to be "relevant". Wouldn't you say? Salama Lakim | |||
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The actions of PHs, clients, etc in the field has nothing with the company. The fact is that Zahir never participated in shooting of any 2 yr old lions or vultures, or any other activity of questionable nature. As far as a client named Jeff, we know his hunt was honored by TAWICO in 2006 or 2007 and hunted in Rungwa-Ikili area. If this did not place, please feel free to contact us for a way forward. TAWICO did bill Zahir for this particular hunt. | |||
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What we are in here to find a way forward for clients affected. The news is out there, the posts are out there. I was refering to Hunting Report because it publishes information as they receive, and remain a neutral ground. They also give opportunity for each side to tell their story. On this case, if you are an affected client, we can look for ways to recover your funds if your hunt did not take place. | |||
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BUT the $40,000 paid to Usangu was not forwarded to Brittingham's TAWICO. So I got to pay twice. I guess that is "honored"? BULLSHIT Perhaps I need to post your emails confirming all this? Be Careful | |||
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If you paid twice for the same hunt, then we can look for a way forward. We will be happy to find a workable solution if that will interest you. Please feel free to contact us by email and we can look for ways to come with a solution. Mistakes were done, events had several other external forces and factors. We can only try to make right for what went wrong. We cannot change the past, but we can make the future a better one based on lessons of mistakes of the past. It is totally understandable of the frustrations clients went through. Our goal is to start new and make a positive difference. | |||
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You know damn good and well that I paid twice Zahir. You must be out of your mind if you think I would do business with you. My suggestion would be to find another venue to peddle your crap than on this forum. Jeff | |||
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[/QUOTE] You know damn good and well that I paid twice Zahir. You must be out of your mind if you think I would do business with you. My suggestion would be to find another venue to peddle your crap than on this forum. Jeff[/QUOTE] We don't expect everyone to do business with us. For those who will decide to do so, we can do what is possible to make things right. We want clients to know that we are willing to work things out for a win win situation. This forum was not started by us. We are only commenting to address issues raised. | |||
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You know damn good and well that I paid twice Zahir. You must be out of your mind if you think I would do business with you. My suggestion would be to find another venue to peddle your crap than on this forum. Jeff[/QUOTE] We don't expect everyone to do business with us. For those who will decide to do so, we can do what is possible to make things right. We want clients to know that we are willing to work things out for a win win situation. This forum was not started by us. We are only commenting to address issues raised.[/QUOTE] This is perfect. I can reach so many more good people like this. You keep posting your shit and I will counter and keep honest people from being robbed. I haven't even needed to play my best cards yet. How do you think this converstion is playing with the hunters on this forum? Talk about win-win... Of course for $40,000 USD, I could be bought. Would you like routing numbers? | |||
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Please email us the second payment confirmation paid to TAWICO by you. From there, we can discuss ways forward. | |||
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Delighted to. However you and I both know you are posturing Zahir. Over 1800 views. This is amazing. Icouldn't do any more damage to you if I tried. I will ring Amy Martin up to retrieve the comms where you failed to pay TAWICO. Jim Keeline send his disdain as well. Jeff | |||
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We would need proof that you paid TAWICO directly for your services, and not whether Zahir failed to pay TAWICO. If you had to pay TAWICO directly to hunt is what is really relevant here for a way forward. | |||
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Also, we would need comfirmation and proof from Amy Martin showing that you did in fact pay for hunting services outside trophy fees. | |||
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Also Jim Keeline may email us with relevant information for a way forward. | |||
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I will have to dig out my payment to TAWICO. Will Post it here. For know plwase find attached the email from Zahir himmself acknowledging the debt he owed me and his arrangements to pay me. Obviously this was not done. Gonna leave a bit of a scar with this. <img src="http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z332/jsevor/Zahirg.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Zahirg.jpg"/>  | |||
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The silence is deafening. | |||
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We will wait for a proof from you paying TAWICO for your services, excluding trophy fees. We will need to know what the payment was for that was made to TAWICO if any. Since the events were several years back,we may be wrong. However, we do believe that Jeff did hunt with TAWICO without paying for service fees. However, if Jeff did indeed pay twice, then we will be willing to work with him. | |||
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Jackass this was 5 weeks after I left Tanzania for my 2006 with TAWICO. Was Zahir contacting me to just donate me $40,000? Why else would he using the word refund and need to break it up in multiple payments? Over 1900 views. | |||
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I can't wait to hear this obfuscation. | |||
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FROM THE HUNTING REPORT- I AM STILL SEARCHING Problems With Safaris To Tanzania Plague Usangu Safaris Last summer, we reported about problems hunters had with safaris to Tanzania handled by Zahir Mulla of Usangu Safaris. The complaints ranged from a shortage of food in the camp to a paucity of game and lack of fuel. The accounts were so consistent that we created a forum on our web site for affected hunters to post their comments and for Zahir Mulla to post a response. Subscriber Benton Jones, who hunted in Mulla's Majimoto camp in July 2007, forwent the forum and filed a formal Hunt Report, voicing many of the same complaints we'd already heard, namely a lack of game in the concession he hunted, up to 15 hunters in one camp at a time and general dissatisfaction with the hunt. Jones says he managed to kill a buffalo after six days of hunting but never had an opportunity to take any of the other animals for which he had paid the trophy fees ahead of time. His hunting partner was unable to shoot anything at all. When Jones filed the report this past March, he had yet to receive his buffalo trophy or a refund for the animals he did not shoot. Mulla responded to our inquiry about the incident, saying. I will be happy to correct what went wrong. As the last season several things did not go right, and I am in the process of correcting and/or making right of what went wrong. "One of the things Mulla said went wrong was that his US representative, Bill Fronterhouse, resigned at the very start of the season and that he still had the contract details for various clients. Mulla said he was in the process of getting that information from Fronterhouse in order to address some of the problems reported. At press time, we checked back with Jones, who had not yet received a refund or his trophy five months after Mulla's e-mail to The Hunting Report. So, we contacted Mulla one more time to find out what went wrong. In an e-mail response, Mulla admits he has not been able to refund Jones or offer any other alternatives because he lost his concession in the Usangu Reserve when the Tanzanian Government turned it into a National Park. He goes on to explain that while the government gave him other hunting areas, they were open areas (meaning residents could hunt there) and he turned them down. "They were full of cattle and not good for hunting, "he says. Mulla says the situation forced him to cancel his July clients this season and send his August clients to other outfitters. "The situation has been costly, leaving no extra funds for anything else, he says." Mulla says he is preparing a legal suit against the Government of Tanzania for breach of contract. He says the breach occurred when they shortened his contract to utilize Usangu Game Reserve without offering him areas of equal value. He goes on to say: "Based on legal opinion, the government will be liable to pay damages as a result of the breach of contract. With this legal suit, I anticipate getting enough compensation to settle with clients or offer hunts to other areas. I hope to resume trophy shipments soon, and it is my hope that I will be able to ship all remaining trophies starting in mid-September." Several other subscribers report that they have not received trophies or compensation for hunts that went off the rails with Usangu either. If you are among them make sure you contact Mulla. One hunter who has taken matters into his own hands is Jim Keeline. He is filling a suit against Usangu Safaris and Bill Fronter- house. Keeline says he would like to hear from other hunters who also had problems with Usangu Safaris and Fronterhouse and would like to join his suit. | |||
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HERE IS ANOTHER- STILL LOOKING DATE AND PLACE OF HUNT Report ID: 7020 Weapon Used: Rifle How Hunt Was Conducted? Guided Date of Hunt: September 29, 2007 to October 7, 2007 Place of Hunt: Tanzania OUTFITTER, GUIDE AND BOOKING AGENT DETAILS Outfitter (or safari company): Usangu Safaris Ltd.. 388 Wright Lane; Fairbanks; AK; 99712; Tel. 907-488-5577; Email: bill@usangu.com; Web www.usangu.com Personal Guide (if any): Booking Agent (if any): Usangu Safaris Ltd.. 388 Wright Lane; Fairbanks; AK; 99712; Tel. 907-488-5577; Email: bill@usangu.com; Web www.usangu.com Trip Arrangements (if self-guided): License Required: GAME DESCRIPTION Major Game Animals Taken: Game Sought But Not Taken: Buffalo, Cape - Availability: Hunt was cancelled. Game Condition Comments: SERVICE RATINGS (excellent, good, fair or poor) Quality of Outfit: Guide/PH Ability: Condition of Camp: Condition of Equipment: Quality of Food: Trophy Care: Name of Airline: Airline Service: Airline Comments: COSTS Hunting Fees: Amount: $9050 Trophy Fees: Amount: $2000 Permits/Licenses: Amount: $0 Commercial Airfares: Amount: $0 Charter Airfares: Amount: $920 Other Costs: Amount: $0 Total: $0 SUMMARY REMARKS Problems of Hunt: Our hunt was never delivered as contracted. We never went on our hunt or received our promised refunds. Highlights of Hunt: Equipment Recommendations: Would You Recommend This Hunt to a Friend? No Why? Absolutely not! Unless you want to just give your money away. HUNTER INFORMATION Hunter Name: Ron Paiz Contact Information: Tel. 505-350-0943 - 2232 Durand Rd SW, Albuquerque, NM 87105 E-mail: jrpaiz@yahoo.com Hunting Experience: Thirty years experience. I have hunted all over the world. Physical Condition: Excellent IMPORTANT NOTES (actions taken if hunter unhappy with hunt) Notified Outfitter? Notified Personal Guide? Notified Booking Agent? Seeking any kind of restitution or other settlement from agent, outfitter or guide? If Seeking Restitution, What is Sought? ADDITIONAL HUNTER COMMENTS AND/OR OUTFITTER/BOOKING AGENT REBUTTAL My party and I booked a 10-day Cape buffalo hunt with Usangu Safaris. They promised us the Selous concession, but changed us to the Usangu concession. We paid all of our hunt fees as well as sent additional trophy money ahead for additional animals. We were told any money not used would be promptly refunded. Two days before our flight to Tanzania, we received a call that our hunt was on hold. We were told that Usangu was not set up to handle our hunting party. To make the story short we were told not to go. A month went by and we tried to get our money back for the cancelled hunt, as well as all the unused trophy fees that were promised to be refunded. Usangu's owner Zahir Mulla has never responded to our requests for a refund. He has not even responded, period! I don't think we will ever see our money, but we plan on taking as much action as we can against Usangu. I have heard that as many as 40 different hunting parties have also lost their money to Usangu for hunts promised that Usangu Safaris could not deliver. I would offer one word of extreme caution to anyone looking to hunt Tanzania. Stay away from Usangu Safaris and Zahir Mula. Rebuttal from Usangu Safaris: I have read the news release you have posted on The Hunting Report. I have been in the field hunting with clients for over a month, and I just returned. Therefore, I was unable to respond to this information any earlier. My response to your post is as follows: We had some overlap of clients in camps due to some clients refusing to go to their assigned camps. However, each client was accommodated and had a tent. Two vehicles had mechanical problems that needed to be repaired. Clients were advised to stay in Dar for a couple of days until the vehicles were repaired as there was no extra vehicle in camp. The clients refused to stay in Dar and demanded to fly to camp knowing there would be no vehicle for them. When they arrived in camp, they were told there was no vehicle as advised earlier. There was also a shortage of one PH, which would have been freed in four days. I told the clients that they will hunt on 2X1 for two to three days, and their schedule will be back to normal to hunt on 2X2 after four days. They would also get credit for days they hunted 2X1. Two clients came to see me in the next camp, and I told them of the same situation, and I advised them that the solution of vehicles will be solved within couple of days. They agreed to wait for the extra days as they would credit on the missed days. I was later told that the clients decided to leave the next day different from what we agreed on. Food etc: The main camp was given food supply that will last nearly the entire season. It is to my surprise to hear reports that main camp has no food, where less than a month ago they had plenty of stock. I have checked with the camp, and all PHs said that food was always available for clients. Since I was gone for over a month, the office personnel handled fuel supply. I am still finding information as to why there was delay in fuel supply. I returned today, and the fuel issue is now resolved. Some of these issues could have been easily handled by the PHs who were with clients. However, they failed to take the initiative to solve several of these issues on behalf of the clients and/or the company. There were clients who wanted to hunt northern species in the Masailand. Due to the Tanzania government proposed increased fees, the area that I reserved to hunt for the clients demanded $15,000 extra per client to hunt to cover the $50,000 block fee increase. We informed the clients of this situation as it was out of our control. As a result, we advised them to finish all of the hunting days in Usangu concessions. Some clients have been given 5 days of daily rate credit for the days that were scheduled in the north. As you are aware, the government has not fully rescinded their decision of fee increases. Many operators are charging extra fees to cover the increased fees in the event the government will not rescind its decision. Until we receive official notification from the government, I expect concession holders may continue to charge fees based upon the current Government ruling. Usangu Safaris has chosen not to charge clients any extra fees to hunt in our concessions no matter what the final decision of the Tanzanian Government; however, we cannot control the decisions of other operators. I have advised all the clients to hunt in the Usangu concessions to avoid extra charges. Paucity of Game: Due to heavy rains this year, there is plenty of water and vegetation for animals in our concessions. As a result, animal movements have been very limited. However, most of our clients have been successful in their desired species. Also, Tanzania is a free-range country with fair chase hunting. Therefore, animals are not fenced within an area. They migrate within an entire ecosystem that is several thousand square kilometers. All clients who have dedicated the hard work to be successful enjoyed great success. Also, due to personal matters and health complications, Bill will not be handling any company matters for now. However, he will facilitate communications with the clients who are scheduled to arrive from September until end of October. If you need additional details, please feel free to contact us by e-mail, as I will be in the field. | |||
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PORTION OF ARTICLE- PORTION RELATED TO USANGU Still in Tanzania, E-mail Extra subscribers already know I have issued several news bulletins about problems with Usangu Safaris. Seems six returning hunters contacted us last month about what they described as unacceptable hunts. Two more called our offices from camp by satellite phone asking us to warn other hunters. They said Usangu's camps were short on everything from vehicles to food to tents to PH's to fuel. Some of the affected hunters reported being stranded in camp for days due to lack of fuel and a shortage of vehicles. The two hunters I spoke with by satellite phone, said they had just pooled their money and sent two PH's to the nearest village to purchase basic staples and fuel. Several hunters told me there were upwards of 11 hunters plus observers in their camp. I also received reports of hunters being told the concessions they booked were unavailable unless they paid additional fees of $15,000 to $18,000. All the hunters also reported a paucity of game. Additionally, there was a report that Usangu Safari's US representative Bill Fronterhouse had suddenly resigned. In fairness to Usangu, I should note that company principal Zahir Mulla says the problems are all a temporary hiccup. You can read his entire statement on the forum I have created about Usangu Safaris on The Hunting Report web site. The forum went live the middle of last month, and, at this writing, just under a dozen comments have been filed. Importantly, one of those comments is from Dallas Safari Club informing hunters that DSC has barred Usangu Safaris from exhibiting at the 2008 Dallas Safari Club Convention. The organization is also no longer accepting advertising or donations from Usangu Safaris. You can read all the back and forth on our web site at www.huntingreport.com. Go to: Special Forum: What's Happening with Usangu Safaris in Tanzania? If you have been on a hunt with Usangu or have information that will help other hunters booked on a hunt with them, do file a comment in our forum and send in a hunt report. | |||
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Just unbelievable. I thought hunting in Africa was to offer the best possible experience at a competitive price? Did not realise that if you want to make some serious money then you simply screw people out of their hard earned cash? ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Jeff May i suggest you mail the package to the Minister? I'm sure he would be very interested to see the kind of Tz citizen has been given blocks!! "...Them, they were Giants!" J.A. Hunter describing the early explorers and settlers of East Africa hunting is not about the killing but about the chase of the hunt.... Ortega Y Gasset | |||
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Now that is a damn fine idea. | |||
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The Ministry is well aware of all these events including the Minister. These blocks were given under review process, which was tied with Usangu Areas being upgraded to National Park Status. One of the reasons for the allocation was to be able to resolve past client issues for Usangu. Resolving clients issues was one factor of the block allocation. | |||
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I believe you made communication with then US Representative at that time as well. We are not disputing your position. However, we would need proof that you paid twice. At issue here would be if you indeed paid TAWICO directly for the hunt. If you did pay twice and can show proof, then we move to the next step of how to move forward with your issue. | |||
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EXCELLENT!!!! Please tell me wher to send my routing numbers and bank information. I am prepared to receive my $40,000USD. Jeff | |||
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