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Originally posted by Jarrod:
I don't care who you are. Its a good thing to be in as good of shape as you can be. Doesn't matter if you are a hunter or if you crochet its good to be in good physical condition.

When you are in shape you feel better, look better, love making is better etc etc.

For those of you that have children, don't you want to be around for their High School and College graduation or to go to their little league games or whatever. When you go on a hunt that you have just forked out enough money to buy a brand new quad cab truck don't you want to be able to walk the distance to catch up to that big tusker, or Dagga Boy or climb the mountain for that 6x6 elk.
I know that even people who look and feel perfectly healthy can have a heart attack and drop dead but at the same time anyone with a smidgen of common sense knows that being fit and healthy dramatically lowers that risk on average..

Im 5'11 and use to weigh about 140 to 145 then when I was in the army I stayed at 160 pounds. I did on average 500 pushups a day before I went in the army, plus the job I had was very physical and I did farm work etc on the weekends some. Obviously I could max the pushups before I even got to Fort Sill. However ive never been a strong runner and im the type of person that has to run regularly to be a good runner.
When I first got in the army although I could do pushups all day but it took me over 18 mins to run two miles, then after a while I got that down to 13mins 10 secs for someone that is mildly asthmatic.

Now after not getting much exercise lately and eating way too much fast food and drinking coca cola like it was water I weigh 210 and instead of running 2 miles in 13 mins it would probably take closer to 130 mins and 2 IV's Not that bad but what im saying is im in the worse shape of my life and it bugs the heck out of me and im going to do something about it.

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Originally posted by sam308:
We're on the 4th page of this thread now and no one has said "I don't want to see Steve Bindon on a hunting show". Isn't that what this discussion is really about?
I have nothing against overweight people doing anything, I just don't want to see it on TV. Christ, I live in Kansas. I see enough fat people in real life.
Oh yeah, I'm fat too.

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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
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I am anti public pensions that reward those in the public sector far greater than the private one.

And I will admit I am not a union lover. As an employer, I don't force anyone to work for me. But I do have a soft spot in my heart for union workers who have toiled for big companies their whole lives and then get the shaft when their factories close. But I guess you don't have to worry about that.

What do you mean "side job?" Do you mean you worked another job in addition to being a LEO? What does that say?

Here is another favorite beef: a cop works after hours as a security guard (maybe it helps them "de-stress") but then gets injured on the job. Why is that a public liability? If you get injured working at 7-11 at night but work for Conoco Phillips during the day, COP (funny that is the stock symbol for Conoco) sure doesn't owe you anything. Why is it all the rules favor those on the public payroll?

A few weeks Ms AZW's mom had chest pains. We called 911. The firefighters showed up right away. Totally professional. But why did nine guys show up with two different trucks? They even had time to ask for a tour of my trophy room. But I will say this much for FF: they always treat you like a customer. The cops, not so much. My last exchange with a police officer was watching MsAZW finish a half marathon. Fat guy on a motorcycle tells use to move behind the yellow line. Okay, we did. Then he drives back and tells us to move behind the curb. I say, "Five minutes ago you told us to get behind the yellow line."

His response: "Do you want me to arrest you for civil disobedience?"

That is how well off Republicans like me develop negative attitudes.

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We're on the 4th page of this thread now and no one has said "I don't want to see Steve Bindon on a hunting show".

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Originally posted by Hizzie:

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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
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I am anti public pensions that reward those in the public sector far greater than the private one.

And I will admit I am not a union lover. As an employer, I don't force anyone to work for me. But I do have a soft spot in my heart for union workers who have toiled for big companies their whole lives and then get the shaft when their factories close. But I guess you don't have to worry about that.

What do you mean "side job?" Do you mean you worked another job in addition to being a LEO? What does that say?

Here is another favorite beef: a cop works after hours as a security guard (maybe it helps them "de-stress") but then gets injured on the job. Why is that a public liability? If you get injured working at 7-11 at night but work for Conoco Phillips during the day, COP (funny that is the stock symbol for Conoco) sure doesn't owe you anything. Why is it all the rules favor those on the public payroll?

A few weeks Ms AZW's mom had chest pains. We called 911. The firefighters showed up right away. Totally professional. But why did nine guys show up with two different trucks? They even had time to ask for a tour of my trophy room. But I will say this much for FF: they always treat you like a customer. The cops, not so much. My last exchange with a police officer was watching MsAZW finish a half marathon. Fat guy on a motorcycle tells use to move behind the yellow line. Okay, we did. Then he drives back and tells us to move behind the curb. I say, "Five minutes ago you told us to get behind the yellow line."

His response: "Do you want me to arrest you for civil disobedience?"

That is how well off Republicans like me develop negative attitudes.

Side job - Yes it means worked another job. What does it say. Hmm, "I have bills to pay and I don't make enough money at my regular job." The same thing it would mean if a regular citizen worked 2 jobs. Do we not have the right to work a second job?

No, a guy working a side job, being paid by someone other than the Govt Agency, should not get Disability. The is not LOD. Keep in mind some Agencies have the merchants pay them and then offer OT Assignments to its personell. Then they ARE working for the Govt Agency and are On-Duty and any injury would be LOD. Take issue with the Govt Agency, not the Union or Pension System.

911 - Protocol says if X happens then Y gets dispatched. People can be rather vague when reporting emergencies or severly under report what is really happening.

FF always treat you like a Customer? I responded to a scene to assist FF's. They were there to treat a DV victim and the suspect came back to finish what he started. I arrived to find 4 FF standing on the guy. He was loudly complaining about the level of CS he was receiving. It is all about the circumstances.

So you met an asshole Cop. So what? The last doctor I saw was an asshole. Should I hold it against all of them? Met a couple of asshole attorneys. Should I write all of them off?

I hope your MIL is feeling better.

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Originally posted by Die Ou Jagter:
It is always interesting how these threads get sided tracked, the meeting at DSC/AR room is still on. If necessary we can divide the room (it is big) into hunting and weight discussion and the other side can debate public employee disability retirement. It is public employee not public service.

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:

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We're on the 4th page of this thread now and no one has said "I don't want to see Steve Bindon on a hunting show".

First off who the Hell is Steve Bindon and who the Hell cares.

It is about seeing real, honest to goodness, run of the mill, everyday hunters and fishermen out doing what they enjoy.

What is wrong with that?????

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:

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We're on the 4th page of this thread now and no one has said "I don't want to see Steve Bindon on a hunting show".

First off who the Hell is Steve Bindon and who the Hell cares.

It is about seeing real, honest to goodness, run of the mill, everyday hunters and fishermen out doing what they enjoy.

What is wrong with that?????

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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:

Hizzie and Shof:

You two have a great New Years. Thanks for your service and thanks for taking time to listen to my issues.

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Originally posted by surestrike:

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The fact that you do all of that, and run 10K's in under 65 minutes is truly awesome. Anyone who really knows about muscular development, knows that developing strength/muscle to the degree which you have, plus running those distances is a rare combination. Running, just as intense weight lifting is a highly an-aerobic activity. Prolonged an-aerobic activity is extremely detrimental to muscular development, and the fact that you are blessed with genetics to do both, is truly rare. Good for you man!!!

Arron,

That is what this is all about..

http://crossfit.com/

I started this about 3 years ago and am 40 lbs lighter, worlds stronger and exponentially more fit. I am running a +/- 6 minute mile (for the first one) just did a 5k in 25:20 and am also dead lifting in the high 300's back squatting just at 300 lbs ETC ETC..

Give it a try you won't be disappointed. I can't think of a better workout program for a hunter or any type of outdoors activity. It sure as heck works well for lots and lots of our special forces soldiers.

I am in my mid 40's and am in better shape now than when I was in my 20's and I was a competitive rugby player back then.

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Out of Shape Hunters

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:

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We're on the 4th page of this thread now and no one has said "I don't want to see Steve Bindon on a hunting show".

First off who the Hell is Steve Bindon and who the Hell cares.

It is about seeing real, honest to goodness, run of the mill, everyday hunters and fishermen out doing what they enjoy.

What is wrong with that?????

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I don't really want to pay to see that though.

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:


Do you feel that hunting license should only be issued to those that meet your criteria of phyical fitness?

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Originally posted by Canuck:

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:


Do you feel that hunting license should only be issued to those that meet your criteria of phyical fitness?

WTH? Where has anyone insinuated or implied that out of shape people shouldn't hunt? Or are you purposely taking people's statements out of context in order to stir up sh!t?

I am glad that you confess to having preferences and change the channel on programs that you dont enjoy. I guess if everyone else had the same preferences then everything would be cool. Lol.

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Originally posted by Muletrain:

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Originally posted by Jarrod:
I don't care who you are. Its a good thing to be in as good of shape as you can be. Doesn't matter if you are a hunter or if you crochet its good to be in good physical condition.

When you are in shape you feel better, look better, love making is better etc etc.

For those of you that have children, don't you want to be around for their High School and College graduation or to go to their little league games or whatever. When you go on a hunt that you have just forked out enough money to buy a brand new quad cab truck don't you want to be able to walk the distance to catch up to that big tusker, or Dagga Boy or climb the mountain for that 6x6 elk.
I know that even people who look and feel perfectly healthy can have a heart attack and drop dead but at the same time anyone with a smidgen of common sense knows that being fit and healthy dramatically lowers that risk on average..

Im 5'11 and use to weigh about 140 to 145 then when I was in the army I stayed at 160 pounds. I did on average 500 pushups a day before I went in the army, plus the job I had was very physical and I did farm work etc on the weekends some. Obviously I could max the pushups before I even got to Fort Sill. However ive never been a strong runner and im the type of person that has to run regularly to be a good runner.
When I first got in the army although I could do pushups all day but it took me over 18 mins to run two miles, then after a while I got that down to 13mins 10 secs for someone that is mildly asthmatic.

Now after not getting much exercise lately and eating way too much fast food and drinking coca cola like it was water I weigh 210 and instead of running 2 miles in 13 mins it would probably take closer to 130 mins and 2 IV's Not that bad but what im saying is im in the worse shape of my life and it bugs the heck out of me and im going to do something about it.

START WITH CUTTING OUT SOFT DRINKS! Constantly ingesting sugar water is very bad for you. You will never get your weight back to normal if you are drinking sodas all day and eating a lot of carbs.

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stating fat guys like CrazyHorse don't have a right to hunt.

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:

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stating fat guys like CrazyHorse don't have a right to hunt.

I have done pretty good with my hunts being a fat guy, so I guess we have decided to throw out another line of diviion among hunters, fat guys versus the "fit" crowd.

That is really good. Fat guys that hunt should not be treated with the same respect people that have a better physique.

That is good.

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Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
If a person wants to believe that only certain "types" should be seen on hunting programs, that is their priveledge, just as it is my priveledge to not agree with them.

What is wrong with that?

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As for the 'fit' comment, I guess that's a personal prejudice percolating into my review. Hunting is a sport, after all, and personally I would much rather watch a hunter on TV who has prepared himself in all ways, including physically, for the challenge of an African dangerous game hunt. That's not to say that someone who is obese or ill or otherwise physically challenged doesn't deserve to go on safari - far from it, I think that's great; it's just that I'd rather watch hunters on TV who can carry their own rifle, cover some miles, hump a rucksack, and not require driving to within meters of their quarry to achieve their hunting goal. That's just me, and I understand that many others will disagree.

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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:

But we need more hunters: fat guys, skinny guys like me that lost just about every fight in high school, black guys, women, gay guys, lezbos, you name it, I am all for it.

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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
But we need more hunters: fat guys, skinny guys like me that lost just about every fight in high school, black guys, women, gay guys, lezbos, you name it, I am all for it.

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Nowhere did he say that certain "types" should not be on TV. He just stated that he prefers shows without out-of-shape hunters. Its a pretty big distinction that you seem to be failing to grasp.

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I would really like to see this TAA show and see what all the hurah is about.

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Originally posted by surestrike:

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Imagine an albino, ultra thin, red head, freckled, too tall, American client hunting on a video .... the mind quakes at the thought ...

NitroX

We especially shouldn't allow any Australians to hunt as they drink all the cheap beer, you can't understand a word they say, and they scare off all the white women.

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My real problem with the whole deal, is that like too damn many things in our modern world, people are too concerned with visual appearance, and real abilities or knowledge are overlooked.

~Ann