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As many of you know I worship PHC and wish to be a famous African novelist. With that in mind my novel is short just a chapter or two. I would love to do a chapter on the average amount of shots to anchor a Buff. Caliber, weight and quantity please.
My experience is as follows;

Buff 1 470 500gr 6
Buff 2 470 500gr 11
Buff 3 470 500gr 5
buff 4 500 570gr 6
buff 5 470 500gr 3

Thanks for your help with my much anticipated African hunting novel.

Bad shooting or just good times?
Chipolopolo
 
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Steve,

I'm not a buffalo hunter but:

1.) 458 WM 500GR TBSH 1
2.) 458 WM 500GR TBSH 1
3.) 416 REM 400GR TBSH 5
4.) 416 REM 400GR TBSH 7
5.) 375 H&H 300GR SAF 1
6.) 375 H&H 300GR SAF 1 TCCI 3

After a 9 year hiatus from shooting buffalo I'm really hoping to take one with a 300 TSX from my 375 Weatherby this year.

Mark


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Mark,
I shall remember you in my will
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I'm not a buffalo hunter but:


5.) 375 H&H 300GR SAF 1
6.) 375 H&H 300GR SAF 1 TCCI 3

After a 9 year hiatus from buffalo hunting I'm really hoping to take one with a 300 TSX from my 375 Weatherby this year.

Mark


Thanks Mark you make my day it's funny how many one shot kills with this calibre pops up


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Originally posted by chipolopolo:
As many of you know I worship PHC and wish to be a famous African novelist. With that in mind my novel is short just a chapter or two. I would love to do a chapter on the average amount of shots to anchor a Buff. Caliber, weight and quantity please.
My experience is as follows;

Buff 1 470 500gr 6
Buff 2 470 500gr 11
Buff 3 470 500gr 5
buff 4 500 570gr 6
buff 5 470 500gr 3

Thanks for your help with my much anticipated African hunting novel.

Bad shooting or just good times?
Chipolopolo


Instead of writing a book why not take shooting lessons?


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Originally posted by chipolopolo:
As many of you know I worship PHC and wish to be a famous African novelist. With that in mind my novel is short just a chapter or two. I would love to do a chapter on the average amount of shots to anchor a Buff. Caliber, weight and quantity please.
My experience is as follows;

Buff 1 470 500gr 6
Buff 2 470 500gr 11
Buff 3 470 500gr 5
buff 4 500 570gr 6
buff 5 470 500gr 3

Thanks for your help with my much anticipated African hunting novel.

Bad shooting or just good times?
Chipolopolo


Instead of writing a book why not take shooting lessons?


5 buff with 31 shots?!

You would sell more books if you claimed 31 buff with 5 shots!!!


jumping


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1. 416 Rem , 400gr Barnes solid 2


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I left the one out that Alister and I and Schalk Burger Sr. The South African Rugby legend did. 19 shots. 8 .375 Schalk
6 .470 Me
5 .458 Lott, Alister
You guy must be hunting "soft" buffalo somewhere.
 
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Posted on behalf of my good friend Ganyana.

Buff - 39, 9.3x62, shots -39

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1. 458wm, 500gr Woodleigh solids 2
2. 458wm, 500gr Woodleigh solids 4, 470 500gr Woodleigh solids 2 (This one was poorly hit with the first shot)
3. 458wm, 500gr Woodleigh solid 1
4. 458wm, 450gr North Fork 1, 500gr Woodleigh solid 2

Except fot the second buff, none needed more than one, but I keep shooting until they fall.

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One buff, 375 H&H, 300 grain factory Failsafe, one shot

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Gentlemen,

You guys can offer criticism on Chipolopolo's shooting without sharing your own experience? Not very sporting, I must say.

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Posted on behalf of my good friend Ganyana.

Buff - 39, 9.3x62, shots -39

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He must be awfully slow to cycle the bolt to reload.


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A novice here...
Buff #1 - .375 H&H - 300 gr SAF - 1 Shot
Buff #2 - .375 H&H - 300 gr SAF - 1 Shot


Good Hunting,

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1 buff .375 H&H 1 300 grain TSX


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May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
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0 buff, thousands of shots..
Amazing how much fun one can have in their mental game room.

I would be hesitant to critisize Chipshots shooting skills.
I have never shot a buff, but it does seem to be good business to keep whacking one as long as he is on his feet, and even then a couple more when he is down.
Bullets are cheap and no way to keep score.

Animals down and that we all walked away from is.


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I shot 3 buffalos

1) 9.3*62 220gr 2 + switched to my 375 300gr 4
but also my cousin 375 300 1 and switched to his 9.3*62 220 4
my PH 375 300 3
2) 375 300gr 1
3) 375 300gr 1


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1, buff with 470 TBBC 1 shot
2, buff with 470 TBBC 2 shots second one when it was down
3, buff with 470 TBBC 2 shots
4, buff with 375 TBBC 8 shots 2 finishers with 470 TBSH
5, buff with 375 TBBC 3 shots

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1. 416 Rigby 400g TBBC x2
2. 416 Rigby 400g TBBC x2
3. 416 Rigby 400g TBBC x2
4. 375 H&H 300g SwiftA x1 300g TBSH x1
 
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Counting insurance shots here.

1 - 1 shot with 458 Lott, 550 Grain Woodleigh soft

5 - 2 shots each with 465H&H, 480 grain Woodleigh solid.

6 - 3 shots each with 465H&H, 480 grain Woodleigh solid.

3 - 1 shot each with 465H&H, 480 grain Woodleigh solid.

7 - 4 shots each with 375 H&H, 300 grain Hornady RN steel jacketed solid.

4 - 2 shots each with 375 H&H, 300 grain Hornady RN steel jacketed solid.

1 - 5 shots with 375 H&H, 300 grain Hornady RN steel jacketed solid.

Been a long time and this is the best I can remember.

465H&H
 
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I left the one out that Alister and I and Schalk Burger Sr. The South African Rugby legend did. 19 shots. 8 .375 Schalk
6 .470 Me
5 .458 Lott, Alister
You guy must be hunting "soft" buffalo somewhere.


Why didn't Schalk just tackle the buff he and his son are great Rugby players


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Assuming "anchoring" means down, and either dead or unable to get up, thus not counting the insurance shot(s):
#1 .416 Rem, soft, 1 shot (lung shot, tracked slowly for 20 min, was in the bush, unable to arise)
#2 .375 H&H, 300 A-frame, 1
#3 .458win, 500 solid, 1
#4 .458win, 500 solid, 2

FWIW, for water buffalo
#1 .375 soft,6 458win solids,3 A screwed up first shot guarantees some excitement.
#2 .375 soft, 1 solid 2, 45/70,1
#3 .375 soft 2
#4 .375 soft 2
#5 9.3x74 soft 1, solid 1
#6 9.3x74 soft 1

add about a dozen if insurance shots are to be counted.


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Tanzania 06
Argentina08
Argentina
Australia06
Argentina 07
Namibia
Arnhemland10
Belize2011
Moz04
Moz 09
 
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I left the one out that Alister and I and Schalk Burger Sr. The South African Rugby legend did. 19 shots. 8 .375 Schalk
6 .470 Me
5 .458 Lott, Alister
You guy must be hunting "soft" buffalo somewhere.


Why didn't Schalk just tackle the buff he and his son are great Rugby players


He was quite the gentleman and a hulk of a man to hunt with. I too am counting insurance shots, I typically wont shoot and see what happens. If I brought 40 rounds I'm there to shoot them all!
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Buff 1; 1 shot, 300 grain Trophy Bonded .375
Buff 2; 3 shots, 300 grain Swift A-Frames, .375
Buff 3, 3 shots, 300 grain Swift A-Frame, .375

Buff #2 was down for the count after 2 shots but I didn't want him to suffer so I put #3 into him to send him to buffalo heaven. He was a big boy.

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I too am counting insurance shots, I typically wont shoot and see what happens. If I brought 40 rounds I'm there to shoot them all!
Chipolopolo


If they're still standing, perhaps it shouldn't be called an insurance shot? When I think of "insurance" shot, it's on an animal that either appears to be dead or so near to it, that it probably can not arise. You are correct to say that if they are still on their feet, you should still be shooting if possible.


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I too am counting insurance shots, I typically wont shoot and see what happens. If I brought 40 rounds I'm there to shoot them all!
Chipolopolo


If they're still standing, perhaps it shouldn't be called an insurance shot? When I think of "insurance" shot, it's on an animal that either appears to be dead or so near to it, that it probably can not arise.


I normally will keep shooting till we unload at the skinning shed. It's just hard on the cruiser with softs
 
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1 Buffalo - 1 shot w/450gr .458 TSX
[but he had been shot with a 300gr .375 TBBC about a year earlier so...]
 
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Buffalo #1 375 H&H 300 gr TBBC 5
Buffalo #2 404Jeff 400 Woodleigh soft 1 +
400 Woodleigh solid 1
 
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Chipolopolo, I like your honesty. Me, 1 cow, lost 2 bulls and a total of 6 shots fired. I drew 3 drops of blood on the first bull. I was following him in the jess with my sights, had him in the shoulder,I squeezzed off just as he stopped. 3 drops from the brisket. Next bull was in the jess also.Shoulder hit, we followed him up twice.Huge piles of blood,started to get late and PH and myself thought it was getting risky. We had to leave Moz. that night,so the trackers and another PH were going to get the bull the next morning. All thought he would be dead in am. Never did find out what happened.What a great experience hunting Buff, in the jess! Brings out all your senses! Can't wait to take my youngest next time.
 
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#1 .416 Rem Barnes 400 grain TSX 1 Shot, was in thick cover, no second shot, found him 100 yards away down

#2 .416 Rem Barnes 400 grain TSX 1 Shot, was in a herd, when the herd ran after the shot I became a spectator for a moment, luckliy the buffalo dropped in less than 30 yards.

As per the advice of PHC I paid the insurance on both as we came near them.
 
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Chipolopolo, I like your honesty. Me, 1 cow, lost 2 bulls and a total of 6 shots fired. I drew 3 drops of blood on the first bull. I was following him in the jess with my sights, had him in the shoulder,I squeezzed off just as he stopped. 3 drops from the brisket. Next bull was in the jess also.Shoulder hit, we followed him up twice.Huge piles of blood,started to get late and PH and myself thought it was getting risky. We had to leave Moz. that night,so the trackers and another PH were going to get the bull the next morning. All thought he would be dead in am. Never did find out what happened.What a great experience hunting Buff, in the jess! Brings out all your senses! Can't wait to take my youngest next time.


69,
Thanks,
the furthest shot I've taken is about 40 yards, never scoped usually with alot of bush around. Shooting and waiting around is different in each case but I really don't take the critisism as anything but jealousy, as I am going to be a famous African hunting novelist someday.
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I can't explain Chippie's shooting but I can say that I agree if the buffalo is barely on its feet and even on the way down I think it prudent to keep shooting and then put one or two in as it expires.

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Chipolopolo, I like your honesty. Me, 1 cow, lost 2 bulls and a total of 6 shots fired. I drew 3 drops of blood on the first bull. I was following him in the jess with my sights, had him in the shoulder,I squeezzed off just as he stopped. 3 drops from the brisket. Next bull was in the jess also.Shoulder hit, we followed him up twice.Huge piles of blood,started to get late and PH and myself thought it was getting risky. We had to leave Moz. that night,so the trackers and another PH were going to get the bull the next morning. All thought he would be dead in am. Never did find out what happened.What a great experience hunting Buff, in the jess! Brings out all your senses! Can't wait to take my youngest next time.


69,
Thanks,
the furthest shot I've taken is about 40 yards, never scoped usually with alot of bush around. Shooting and waiting around is different in each case but I really don't take the critisism as anything but jealousy, as I am going to be a famous African hunting novelist someday.
Chipolopolo
Famous!,now that's something.Anyways,if you do get out a book ,I'll buy it after I buy Will's.
 
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I can't explain Chippie's shooting but I can say that I agree if the buffalo is barely on its feet and even on the way down I think it prudent to keep shooting and then put one or two in as it expires.

Mark


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OK I'm in.

Buff Bull #1 2 .416 Rigby 400gr TSX, 1 .470 NE 500gr. Initial shot a little back, second in the hip, PH shot it as it ran into the Jess with a brain shot.

Buff Cow #2 1 .375 H&H 300gr TSX, 1 .470 NE 500 gr. soft. Initial shot bang/flop, but I wanted to try the PH's double, so I put the insurance in with his rifle.

Buff Bull #3 2 .416 Rigby 400gr TBSH Bang/flop, and an insurance shot.

Buff Bull #4 3 .416 Rigby 400gr TSX, 1 458 Lott 500gr TSX First shot took out the heart, but it ran for the concession border so we both unloaded on it. Any of the hits would have been fatal eventually. He ran a total of maybe 75 yards.

Buff Bull #5 3 .416 Rigby 400gr TSX First shot a little off, but enough to sicken him so that when we came back he was lying down 50 yards from where he was shot; shot again and then insurance.

Buff Bull #6 5 .375 Swift A frame, 1 .416 Rigby TSX, 5 458 Lott of various bullet types. Another hunters buff that we tracked together Only 1 chest hit, and an insurance shot.

My take. Shot placement is EVERYTHING.

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I can't explain Chippie's shooting but I can say that I agree if the buffalo is barely on its feet and even on the way down I think it prudent to keep shooting and then put one or two in as it expires.

Mark


Just like Brown Bear eh? "When in doubt, empty out"


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After a 9 year hiatus from shooting buffalo I'm really hoping to take one....


WTF have you been doing with your life? I understand different strokes for different folks but if you keep that up you'll end up in Hell!

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I left the one out that Alister and I and Schalk Burger Sr. The South African Rugby legend did. 19 shots. 8 .375 Schalk
6 .470 Me
5 .458 Lott, Alister
You guy must be hunting "soft" buffalo somewhere.
I admire you for admitting to such pathetic shooting( it takes a real man to own up to such as this). i could have sworn that i read somewhere that it is all about proper shot placement. 1 buff, 1 shot. .375 H&H, Barnes TSX(spined). if poor shooting will make you a famous African novelist, your career is assured. on the other hand, maybe Gator 1 has the right idea- instead of writing a book, take shooting lessons might be a better idea.


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The normal words at mans grave or hospital bed when buff is involved is WHY DIDN'T THEY SHOOT ANOTHER SHOT. rather shoot too many than too little


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Like I said before, If I have this big beautiful .500 and a whole pocket full of ammo, I'm shooting till we get to the skinning shed. How about being critical of Alister Nortons shooting? Any takers?
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