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As long as this new 17-25 ACP ultraMag can penetrate a stop sign it should be good to go as a top shelf deer round. We’ll have to send it off to Seafire for testing. My stop sign is shot all to hell so it wouldn’t give an accurate reading.  | |||
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Never thought about it before--Is a sign penetration an effective measure of anything? See a lot of em shot up. | |||
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Heck......anyone can neck down a .25 ACP.....only the best can neck it up! The .45-70-25ACP is often not used for cape buffalo! I'm going to a gun show next weekend to see if I can't find one. They are quite rare and bullet seating is very delicate I'm told. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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No it is an indication of some low-life destroying public property. | |||
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Yep Aim for the exit hole | |||
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Don't know if true. There was a deer crossing sign at a curve and there were several car/deer collisions there. Some old lady asked "why dont they move that sign so they'll cross at a safer place?" | |||
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Good Luck VD! Due to the fact that the projectile is a larger diameter than the cartridge case, there is no record of anyone being able to chamber a live round of the .45-70-25ACP in a breach loading firearm and successfully firing it. There was an effort to use the .45-70-25ACP in a muzzle loading configuration but most often the firing pin just punted the cartridge back up the barrel without igniting the primer. ******************************************************* For every action, there is an equal and opposite malfunction. | |||
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A word on my experience not shooting the 25ACP. I have not taken game as large as elephant with the 25ACP. This leads me to believe that it is very adequate for not taking any game on the planet. Just as an aside think of all the wars that have been lost by countries not issuing the 25ACP as their primary infantry weapon. | |||
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Sad but true, and think of the wars lost by countrys arming their troops with varmint cartridges. Aim for the exit hole | |||
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That's the entire reason for this hard hitting new round..... Just think of all the folks that won't hunt cape bullalo with it.....further just think of how many totally bullshit threads won't be written on the internet about this! This is a round long past due for serious non hunters! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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Hey folks....we got a long ways to go to get to the 12 pages of the other "small round for big game" running here. At least this one has some redeeming value and isn't controversial!  /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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vapodog---This thread isn't controversial? It is too. Why you hijacking my thread? I just read on another thread that this thread is bs. That's controversy. Gotta stick to the topic. You guys keep introducing ways to improve the .25ACP and we wont be able to use it on game animals--have to use it on tanks. | |||
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Hey....got a link?..... We'll get this thread to 12 pages yet! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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 I've been reluctant to even bring this up - but - I've witnessed " 1 " 7-pointer Killed by a guy shooting a 2" barrel 25ACP Saturday-night Special!  Anyone care to ponder on how it was accomplished? ----- By the way, it was illegal then(where it happened) and is still illegal today. When I pointed that out to the guy, he said, "I don't see any Game Warden!" He did not get to hunt that property ever again. | |||
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How it was accomplished: The deer was tangled in a woven wire fence and your friend emptied the .25 into it and then beat it's brains out with the butt? Aim for the exit hole | |||
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LOL,,,, that sounds about right. | |||
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Lemme guess....he shot at the deer and frightened it over a cliff! . . . . . . . . . splat! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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My dad always carried a Colt Woodsman (.22 lr) pistol to use for a finishing shot close up in the head if he had a down deer. This was probably illegal but would have been legal with a centerfire--.25ACP. | |||
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http://forums.accuratereloadin...6711043/m/4721014901---Vapodog--I dont know how to post the exact post but it's in this thread 18th post | |||
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Now that you mention it, The mind boggles at the legion of hard core fanatics that will never gather to pay homage to the .45-70-25ACP. The dedicated brain dead inventor whose name who will never be uttered in reverential tones. The magazine articles and books that will never be written about the .45-70-25ACP. I just can't think of a round that deserves many more decades of non-existence than the .45-70-25ACP. ******************************************************* For every action, there is an equal and opposite malfunction. | |||
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Thanks for the link.....some folks just don't know how to have fun!!! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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It was a Dog Drive and the 7-pointer came out of the woods low-to-the-ground(aka wide-open). The 00BuckShot from the old Blue Paper Peters Hulls hit just a bit too far back, because I had to shoot at the Deer left handed while sitting on the ground. The Deer rolled 2-3 flips and was bawling, but could not regain it's footing. Before I could get off the ground, a tall-lanky guy went past me as if he was taking 10ft strides(obviously less, but he was sure moving). He ran right up to the Deer and I heard a small "pooft". He had placed the 25ACP in the Deer's ear and Killed it. It was illegal because of the barrel length and cartridge. Pistols/revolvers had to be 6" or more and 357Mags or better. The 12ga he was also carrying would have been legal. But the 25ACP did Kill that 7-pointer. There were 5 other people in that group and they had "other problems" on the land as well. So, they never got to come back. | |||
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Hot core---Why didnt you just swat the deer with your 25# sledge? You do carry it in your pocket don't you? | |||
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 I'd rather catch a mess of yellow perch.  rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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You must have forgotten I use it to "Hang Targets"(tapping in thumb tacks), so I did not happen to have it with me. The sledge would have worked a lot better than a 2-D cell flashlight (light weight, not the excellent Mag-Lite), which I've also seen in use. | |||
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I'll take your word for it.....but it's still hard to believe.....The little auto isn't a lot of energy! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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 87 ft.lbs. I guess that’s enough as long as you press the muzzle into an ear canal. | |||
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I over looked the fact that Hot Core said the gentleman used a 2” barrel so that drops the ft.lbs. down too 57.  It's a real power house. | |||
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The data on a .410 shotgun slug is quite anemic as well at about 400 ft-lb....but is still ahead of the .25 ACP by quite a margin....57 ft-lb?.....wow.....no wonder dinosaurs became extinct!  /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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[QUOTE].He had placed the 25ACP in the Deer's ear and Killed it.QUOTE] Lucky the guy didn't get hit by a richochet! | |||
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As long as he was wearing a coat his body was safe but if he wasn’t wear glasses he might have put an eye out. | |||
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hotsore a$$shoots a deer, and the guy that finishes the "bawling" deer with a mersy shot is the one that gets run off the place? NICE " I had to shoot at the Deer left handed while sitting on the ground" ... no, you didn't HAVE to, you had choosen to.. and a$$shot it, inhumanely shooting game, ... but i REALLY have to ask, since the other fella got run off ... do you claim that as one of the "many thousand" head of deer you've killed, or was that one just gutshot and left to die until a dude with a 25 bust'a'cap in its head?
opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Hot core--You once said you had to disagree with me you could think of hundreds of shots you had taken with a big gun that a smaller wouldnt work. You implied with bigger gun it forgives. Was this one of those hundereds? If you dont have a good shot you pass. This was not a good shot. Having to shoot left handed and all. And you attempt to make using a .223 an "ethical" question? | |||
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Boy-O Boy, you guys are in full form this morning. For jeffe(who can't shoot anything without a Lead Sled) and carpetman - I'm thinking BAD thoughts about you all.  Actually that 7-pointer was " 1 " of the 6-shots I've taken in over five decades that could definitely have been placed better. It is easy to remember those 6, which keeps me from repeating them. How `bout you carpetman? Ever taken a shot you were not happy about? I know jeffe has never actually Killed anything. The only thing he is really good at shooting is his LOUD blow-hard mouth. | |||
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Back to the original thread....the .25 ACP for dangerous game.....or was it just deer and stuff.....  So far we have necked it up and necked it down and even made the coveted "AI" version..... Anyone chamber it in a Marlin 39A? /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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Yeah, there's that, hotsore .. you are bragging about a$$shooting, gutblasting a deer and the OTHER guy takes the fall for you? you "know" me like you "proved" you've killed "many thouasand" deer .. by believing your own press releases  WARNING -- the link below is graphic ... its a headshot hog with a 500 AR, 600gr woodliegh at 2150 .. range about 10 yards, after sneaking in close ... yeah, hotsore, it was tough dragging my leadsled in for that shot ... GRAPHIC LINK .. its GRESOME http://weaponsmith.com/images/dec08/gresome1.jpg opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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How did a "tongue in cheek" thread turn into a pissing match? Lighten up, guys! NRA Life Endowment Member | |||
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Well, so much for Head Cheese. Aint gonna get none from that pig. John  Give me COFFEE and nobody gets hurt | |||
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