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On the top thread of ‘Another great hunt with Alan Vincent’, 470 Eddy responded with his success with his cataract surgery. I too have had the same proceedure/experience, so instead of adding on to the thread , I thought the topic was so common for all of us ‘old guys’ that I would start a new thread and let others chime in on their experiences with the procedure. If you haven’t had this procedure already, you most likely will, if you live long enough. I had mine recently in the last two months at age 73. I’ve worn glasses since the 4th grade, and got contacts when they were ‘new’ at age (18). I’ve always been upgraded with stronger lenses/glasses as I aged and my eyes progressively got worse. On my last visit to the optometrist, I could not see the giant ‘E’ on the top of the eye chart, the single letter on the chart the size of a football, without my glasses or contacts. Being through this routine for many years, I tossed out a guess of ‘E’ after contemplating it for about ten seconds! My optometrist looked at me like I was an alien from outer space. She went to the next line with (3) letters about the size of a can of Coke. Couldn’t even guess what they were. She said my vision was about 20/2,000. Another optometrist who checked my eyes after the cataract surgery, suggested she may have been off a bit, and that it was probably 20/1,500. You read those correctly dear reader. ‘Normal’ good eyes are 20/20. One can still drive legally with 20/40 vision, but at 20/60 or worse, corrective lenses are required. A friend of mine said his vision had deteriorated to 20/200, and I said, ‘oh, you’ve got good vision!’ My optometrist said she could not help me any more, and that I needed cataract surgery. My brain went crazy. Eye surgery? That implies knives cutting into your eyeball. I can’t stand an eyelash in my eye! But I couldn’t see anything anymore, so I conceded like a POW turning in his rifle to the enemy. I imagined a shot in my eye to deaden the pain of surgery, to be about as bad as the surgery itself. Then the sutures to close up the operation. No thanks. But blindness is not a walk in the park either. I submitted to the inevitable. As 470 Eddy said, it was no big deal at all. Both surgeries for my eyes took 22 minutes total each (two weeks apart) once I was in the operating room. No shots. No sutures. Only eye drops. I can’t understand how eye drops can totally take away ALL of the pain of eye surgery, but it did. I felt NOTHING. I figured a weeks stay in the hospital to recover. Nope. They wheeled me out to my car after the operation, and my wife drove me home. The surgeon said he wanted to see me that afternoon back at his office to check the results. Perfect! I did the same thing for the other eye two weeks later, with the exact same results. After four weeks I returned to my optometrist for a checkup of the results. The first chart he put up was for 20/20 vision. I aced it. He said, would you like to try the 20/15 chart? Affirmative! I read the smallest line on it. I was thrilled! I said, “Let’s try the 20/10 chart!” He said, ‘it doesn’t go that low.’ By the way, people with great vision have 20/20 vision. 20/15 vision simply means that as far as a 20/20 person can see sharply, one with 20/15 can see (5) yards further sharply, as I understand what I read on the internet. I know that the age of people on AR are mostly ‘senior’. Like 470 Eddy said, cataract surgery is nothing to fear or worry about. It’s painless, and the results will astound you! They asked me if colors looked more vibrant too? I said “YES!”. They just smiled. Removing the cloudy cataract let the colors shine through. I spent the next two weeks in amazement looking at single leaves on the top of 50’ trees in perfect focus, when the whole tree before was just a green/brown blob. I was gobsmacked. It was like being reborn. If you need this procedure, do not fear it. It will change your life. Painlessly. Go for it!! | ||
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Folks, What surefire7 said. Personally I had cataract surgery about 10 years ago on both eyes at the same time. The IV in the top of my hand was the only pain I had. In my case I think it was about 6 months before neon signs looked right but I could see an immediate improvement. I'm 75 and I can drive legally without my glasses that I've worn since the 6th grade. Don't put it off. It's really a yawn! Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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Only problem that I had was when I looked through a scope. The right side of the horizontal crosshair was always high and the left side low. I thought it was the scope at first but I have a lot of scopes and they all appear the same/ It eventually lessened but never went away. WEIRD HUH! And yes----the vertical crosshair was always straight up and down. Hip | |||
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I had really bad cataracts, I had lens replacement about 5 years ago (Crystal lens), unfortunately, I did have to have injections in each eye…not the least bit pleasant, but what the hell, couldn’t see so well prior and have 20/20 afterwards, seeing colors (like on dashboard of truck that I’d not seen before). However, my eyes are pretty light sensitive but sunglasses take dare of that. My best friend recently had same replacement with no injections. Karl Evans | |||
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Just do it. Great eyesight is with in your reach! It’s life changing! | |||
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I’m really looking forward to getting it done. Lousy vision sucks! | |||
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Are you doing this soon? | |||
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I had both eyes done in October/November last year and the result is incredible. I do have to read glasses for reading though | |||
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I was considering this but one PH stated he could not see the open sights of his rifle so are we talking about long vision? ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Andrew - Long answer below, but in my case, I don't think it made much difference in my ability to use iron sights - it wasn't great before (with glasses), and is a little better now (without glasses). But the fundamental difficulty - the inability to focus near and far at the same time is similar. Long answer about my experience: The interesting thing about lens replacement surgery is that you get to choose the lenses you want. I wore glasses all my life to correct for distance (being what we call here "near-sighted"). Later, (in my 40s) I wore bi-focals, but could always read without my glasses. Even later (in my 50s) I wore the bi-focals, but at my desktop computers with dual monitors (30" / 75 cm away from my eyes), I started wearing computer glasses set to that focus length. I got cataracts surgery just before I turned 60. I chose what they call "mono vision" - that is the right eye set to focus at infinity and the left eye set to focus about 18"/45 cm. I also had some astigmatism corrected. I can now get by most of the time without any corrective glasses, EXCEPT, since I had the surgery I started finding several cases where another pair of glasses was helpful:
So, even though my wife notes that I have more pairs of glasses than ever before, I really only use the computer glasses for multiple hours each day, and the safety glasses when I need to protect my eyes. The other pairs have been barely used in the last three years. Leopard, Hippo, Croc - Zambezi Valley, Zimbabwe, 2024 Reindeer & Geese, Iceland, 2023 Plains Game, Eastern Cape, 2023 Buff - Zambezi Valley, Zimbabwe, 2022 Muskox-Greenland, 2020 Roe buck and muntjac in England, 2019 Unkomaas Valley, RSA, 2019 Kaokoland, Namibia, 2017 Wild boar hunting in Sweden, 2016 Moose hunting in Sweden, 2014 How to post photos on AR | |||
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I hope to before going buffalo hunting in May. | |||
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Get multifocals lenses I did that, life is so much better without glasses Had hard time with iron sights, now I’m back baby | |||
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Dan, lousy vision does suck, when I had my lens replacement I was told no “big” guns, or boxing , for several months. Definitely worth doing though, can read and see iron sights as well as good distance vision. Karl Evans | |||
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I had it done in my left eye a few years ago. Nothing to it. Major improvement in my vision. | |||
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No one has mentioned light adjustable lens surgery - it is relatively new and uses a polymer lens whose molecular structure can be changed with UV light. In a nutshell, they implant a lens and after three weeks, they measure your prescription. You then get zapped by UV light. They can do up five treatments, but most are done in two. I have severe astigmatism and my eye surgeon said I had two choices: 1. Get normal lenses. A. My insurance would cover the cost B. I would probably have to wear glasses to see 20/20. 2. Get LAL lenes A. See 20/20 or better B. Cost would be about 10K out of pocket C. Your vision will be imperfect for 4-6 weeks and you have to wear glasses to filter out UV light I went with LALs. It sounds like something out of a science fiction movie. In Feb 2022 I had my ankle replaced. Long story short, I broke one of the pegs that went into my tibia; on a hunt in NZ in 2023 I was in severe pain. I woke up every day unable to walk without limping. So in Feb 2024 my ortho redid the procedure, this time using an implement similar to those used in hip replacements (a conical device inserted into my tibia). Since I was going to have to keep weight off my right foot for six weeks, I figured getting LAL at the same time was a no-brainer. A week after my foot surgery I had the left lens replaced. A week later I had the right replaced. Two weeks later, I had my first left eye light treatment. A week after than, my right lens. In short, I had two treatments with both eyes. I now see 20/15. I always hated wearing glasses, preferring to wear contacts. But contacts and hunting, especially when sleeping in a tent, are not ideal for the simple fact your hands have to be really clean and you absolutely need light in the dark to put them in and take them out. Last weekend I went on a backpack trip in the Grand Canyon, down Hermit to Monument Creek, then Tonto to Indian Gardens, then up. It was at least my 30th backcountry trip, but the first when I didn't have to deal with contacts or glasses. Super happy! | |||
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Cataract surgery is one of the few I hear very few complaints by patients about afterwards. It is amazing what they can do to help vision now. | |||
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I've had cataract surgery on both eyes, preceded by Vitrectomy surgery on both eyes as well. All were painless. The Vitrectomy surgeries were to remove masses of floaters in both eyes. The surgeon told me after Vitrectomies, that I would require cataract surgeries a year later. | |||
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Just a couple of thoughts about Cataract Surgeries. I would NOT risk doing both at the same time, risk of infection is always present, and if you are unlucky enough to get one, it could take both eyes instead of only one, if not well controlled. My MD Ophthalmologist required 30 days between. My Doc prescribed 3 separate eye drop Meds, pre-surgery to prevent infection and swelling. Note, Very Expensive ($800-1000 not covered by Insurance), buy them by mail from Canada, less than $200!!-each eye/surgery. The surgery is a non-event if done well, usually in an outpatient, ambulatory surgery center owned by a large Medical Practice. The numbing of the eye is done with a series of 3 eyedrop Meds, and then a very light "Conscious Sedation" IV anesthetic, administered by an MD Anesthesiologist... who also monitors all vital signs while the less than 10 minute procedure is completed. You actually see the old lens being sucked out, you go fog white, and installation of the new lens. You rest in Recovery room for less than an hour, walk out and have someone drive you home!! My Doc did a minute surgical incision, ie Lasix, to take my vision to as close to 20/20 as possible... I was 20/200 prior to surgery!! A couple things to think about lens selection- I wore glasses since I was in Sixth Grade so I had really no pursuit to go without glasses. In fact, after surgery, I tried, and I felt so naked with potential of getting hit in the eye be anything, but also wind on my eyes, and direct heat of the sun on my eyes was uncomfortable!! My Doc was very explicit about various effects of the Upgraded new lenses available, but would NOT be covered by Medicare, additional $1700 each, or the multi-focal lens at $3400 each... I am a pilot, and I drive alot at night. Both of these advanced lenses will cause some night vision and halo effect which are annoying to dangerous in various situations. I went with the standard lenses. So with the standard lenses, I needed a very slight correction for distance vision and full correction for reading... and seeing iron sights. So, I comfortably wear a new photo-gray lens with variable bifocal that is hardened, do I don't need shooting glasses, I don't need to change to sunglasses, even in the car or cockpit... they change almost instantly!! New options available in the last year!! With the new glass instrument panels in cars and aircraft, DON'T go with any Polarization, you won't see the panels... and of course if you are landing on water, you lose depth perception as you can see right into the water with Polarized glasses!! I have passed my driver's license without glasses, and I will probably be able to pass my next Class II or III FAA flight physical without my glasses... but who cares, I wear glasses comfortably and very pleased. I watch TV without my glasses, I can't read without my glasses.... This whole thing with cataract surgeries has been a great blessing to me!! Wishing Ya All the best with your decisions. Also glad to chat, text or email with anyone!! CheerZ, 470EDDY | |||
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Same for me… Karl Evans | |||
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I have had lasik surgery twice. They have always told me my eyes would be sensitive to light, especially sunlight. Never happened! In fact I hardly ever wear sun glasses. On safari I never do. Nor at home in the desert either. | |||
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One PH I know said he could not focus on the iron sights of his rifle. ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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I recently had the surgery on my Left eye. Someone wisely said they would NOT get the surgery on BOTH at the same time. My advice would be DO NOT. I had complications (chance is less than 10%) In fairness I had Glaucoma surgery at same time, which I imagine is not uncommon. I threw a blood clot that caused blindness two days after. 14 days later I am legally blind in the eye still. Hopefully it clears…but if this were both eyes I’d be absolutely screwed. | |||
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The reason for this is needing a close up or reading lens after cataract surgery. This is why I chose to keep wearing glasses, eye protection, one, but need for reading bifocals. I took a variable bifocal in glasses I wear all the time, I shoot my iron sights just fine... I can't read or do anything, close up and fine, without them!!....including telling time on my standard hand watch!! 470EDDY | |||
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What was your distance vision before and after the multi-focal lenses. ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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How’s your reading with those lenses? ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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Thanks to all, very helpful info. Brian IHMSA BC Provincial Champion and Perfect 40 Score, Unlimited Category, AAA Class. | |||
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Today was a very good day… I Went to see my Optometrist. He said my cataracts have developed enough that surgery can now be done and insurance should cover it. He said they’d do one eye, then the other two weeks later, that’s perfect. I asked him “How long after cataract surgery do I have to wait before I can shoot a heavy recoiling rifle. He said “Give it at least a month, why?” So I told him I’m heading to Zimbabwe on May 8 for a buffalo hunt. And I’ll be in Europe for a couple weeks in April. Doc says “It sounds like you need both eyes done in March, then”. Yup! So initial consult is later this month and first eye surgery as early as possible after February 15. I’m leaning toward the more expensive procedure that I’ll have to come out of pocket for, but will make final decision when I meet with the eye surgeon. I want as perfect vision as possible, both near and far. I’m actually looking forward to this! | |||
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Dan, Just make sure you select a highly qualified, and referred MD Opthimologist,NOT DO, and not at a "Cataract Factory!" Most quality Opthomology practices have thier own private surgery center. REMEMBER, not all MD's graduate Top 10 in their Med School Class, what do they call the last in class? DOCTOR!! Ask your very most trusted friends who they went to, even better RN or MD friends you respect for referrals. Very important!! My trusted MD Opthomogist referred me in practice to a DO who had been head of Eye at Madigan Army Hospital. I went to the first measuring appointment with my RN wife...we both said NOT A CHANCE!! We asked for a second referral, in practice, an "all business Asian." It was a blessing, and he is now my regular eye doctor, and a Glaucoma specialist too!!! Wishing you the best and great success with your surgeries!! Steve 470EDDY | |||
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Got better is all I can tell you I’m back to all 20/20 Had perfect vision until about 55 and then it started going so at 62 this year I had it done Honestly, I had it done mainly for hunting and reading as I love those two most | |||
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My reading is way better! I can read without reading glasses, although I still wear reading glasses just because I can see better. But before the surgery, I needed reading glasses to read everything - now I get by without them if I have to. I can tie on a hook without them, for example, whereas before I could not. LAL is worth every penny of the 10K I spent. | |||
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Some of you have mentioned the cost for cataract surgery, but I did not in my post that started this thread. I had insurance, and the basic surgery was free under my plan, so check with your insurance company. I did elect for correction for my astigmatism, which cost $405/eye, so a total of $810. From what I gather, without insurance, it can run anywhere from about $5,000 to $7,000 per eye. | |||
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All I can say is that after the last three days duck hunting, I can’t wait to get this done. Everyone in the blind was seeing birds way before I could see them. It was hard to tell greenheads from hens until they were close and shooting at blurry, fuzzy looking ducks sucks. I shot like shit since I couldn’t see well. I’m more than ready for this. PS - Steve, thanks for the insights and advice. | |||
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DLS- I had the same problem on a hot-barrels dove and pigeon hunt out of JBerg before we were flying home!!... PH thought I was a Duntz... not seeing birds when he was!! Crazy Day for sure!! No Problem now!! Wishing you the best with your surgeries... it is a blessing, and a miracle wrapped up into one package, well...TWO!! Steve 470EDDY | |||
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SureFire- Thankfully, most cataract surgeries are a late in life situation, but not all, so most are covered by Medicare Part A and B, plus some of the optional lenses by Supplemental Insurance... but if your Doc is not sharp, you may have to do the Insurance Company contacts for coverages!! It is complicated!! Now that said, if they develop earlier, there may be a medical reason that would be covered by your employer provided insurance under surgical benefits.... and especially if your job is vision critical like pilots, Doctors, Dentists, on and on... so basic surgical benefits may kick in IF YOU PURSUE IT. Wishing you all the best with your surgeries!! 470EDDY | |||
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Hi Steve....for the record,the PH did not think that you were a Duntz! My wife recently had both eyes done, the second was a disaster, with part of the old lens going into the vitreous.....and she was effectively blind in that eye until a Specialist Surgeon could drain the vitreous, and along with it the pieces of the old lens, ....thankfully she has recovered fully....so not without it's risks...I have had both eyes done and only require glasses for reading... | |||
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Les, Thak you very much... next time, I will see like an eagle eye with you... and I look forward to it!! That was a great day, and I would like to do some driven Warthog shooting too!! We are presently cruising all the way around Africa, but won't make it to Joberg this trip, and it is the wrong time of the year too... It was 95 degrees and heavy green bush in The Selous yesterday!! I am pleased to hear your wife recovered from what could have been a very serious outcome from her surgery... and yours went well!! I'm presently suffering with recurring Spinal Stenosis, or calcification of the nerves coming out of the spine, affecting my balance with numbness in my feet and lower legs, and weakness in my thighs!! More surgery when we get back... I can't let this old age get me down!!... I have more to hunt in Africa, and a jet and rotary ratings to add to my pilot's license!! I look forward to hunting with you again... and I promise I will see the birds like you do next time!! CheerZ, Steve 470EDDY | |||
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My eye Dr. wife strongly recommends using the eye drops-when prescribed-as directed before the operation. They really help. Had cataract surgery, but they have re-appeared-not uncommon, so back again for a slight repeat procedure. Don't forget the eye drops... Avatar | |||
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That's interesting. I had lasik in 2007. The only detriment to my vision that I still have is dusk and dawn - like my rods and combs can't figure out who's in charge. I loose some light transmission at these times. Full light, full darkness not an issue. And what's weird, though I wear mild corrective progressive lenses nowadays, at night I can see perfect without them when I am running green LEDs. Something about the green wavelength. "Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" -- Ronald Reagan "Ignorance of The People gives strength to totalitarians." Want to make just about anything work better? Keep the government as far away from it as possible, then step back and behold the wonderment and goodness. | |||
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I agree on the eye drops, our Surgeon prescribed 2 antibiotics and one prednisone steroid to prevent swelling after surgery, to be used pre- and post-surgery. Then at surgery time they use another antibiotic and numbing drops for the surgery, usually with slight "Conscious Sedation" be an Anesthesiologist.... you walk out in 30 minutes to an hour, no driving!! As mentioned previously, these three pre-surgery drops are VERY EXPENISVE, $900, and cannot be used for both eyes, you have to buy them twice!! I bought them from Canada, $200!! It is NOT POSSIBLE to have cataracts come back!! Once the lens is removed, which was clouded, it is GONE!! What does happen, is a protein film can form after surgery on the new artificial lens in some people, this is removed by a brief in-office laser treatment to remove the film. Neither I, nor my wife, have experienced the protein fogging!! Wishing you all the Best with your surgeries and no complications!! 470EDDY | |||
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send us some pics of your cruise as it sounds awesome? Where you now? ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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